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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Atouke: 4:26pm On Sep 14, 2013

luvmijeje:
What's wrong with private sector investment? As far they are in conjunction, why must it not be included?

because its about the gov. and their projects. get it?

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Afam4eva(m): 4:29pm On Sep 14, 2013

As far as Infrastructural development is concerned based on the revenue that accrues to the states, i will rate Akwa-Ibom ahead of Lagos state. Though Lagos has equally done well when compared to previous governments.

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by luvmijeje(f): 4:38pm On Sep 14, 2013

Atouke:

because its about the gov. and their projects. get it?

No, I didn't get it. As far It's the governor initiative, I still don't understand why it must not be included. If it's not included, then there is no basis for comparison.

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 4:41pm On Sep 14, 2013

Afam4eva: As far as Infrastructural development is concerned based on the revenue that accrues to the state[/b]s, i will rate Akwa-Ibom ahead of Lagos state. Though Lagos has equally done well when compared to previous governments.

You are wrong.

Akwa Ibom has more money for just 5 million people and they post the largest state budgets in Nigeria.

How do you even make such ignorant statement without population factor and exactly what each state spends..?

Leave this alone and keep an eye on the derailers, I've sent so many messages

[b]Lagos state IGR is N20B x 12B = N240B + N120B =360B

Allocation and IGR = 360. They borrow to make up the difference at N497 billion/20 million population

Akwa Ibom with allocation or IGR or no IGR, their budet for N559 including N80 loan/2013/5million population

For 2012 it was N379B + N125B SUPLEMENTAL = N522B/5 million population. Largest state budget in Nigeria

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Afam4eva(m): 4:49pm On Sep 14, 2013

agbameta:

You are wrong.

Akwa Ibom has more money for just 5 million people and they post the largest state budgets in Nigeria.

How do you even make such ignorant statement without population factor and exactly what each state spends..?

Leave this alone and keep an eye on the derailers, I've sent so many messages

I've told you people to stop bringing in population as long as Lagos or any state does not feed it's population. If anything, it's to the advantage of the state with a higher populaton cos that will mean more money via taxation. We're looking at the number and quality of projects executed and only a blind man will not give it to Akpabio but if we were to rank them based on people oriented projects then it may not even go to either of them. An obscure governor may win it ahead of them.

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by KnowAll(m): 4:51pm On Sep 14, 2013

An obscure governor may win it ahead of them.

- Lamido beats both of them based on that category.

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Afam4eva(m): 4:55pm On Sep 14, 2013

KnowAll: - Lamido beats both of them based on that category.

If professional bodies were to rank governors according to all the indices, all these governors building staircases to heaven may not even make the cut. Governance goes beyond that. Unfortunately, we're in a society where people are moved by what they see.

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 4:59pm On Sep 14, 2013

Afam4eva:
I've told you people to stop bringing in population as long as Lagos or any state does not feed it's population. If anything, it's to the advantage of the state with a higher populaton cos that will mean more money via taxation. We're looking at the number and quality of projects executed and only a blind man will not give it to Akpabio but if we were to rank them based on people oriented projects then it may not even go to either of them. An obscure governor may win it ahead of them.

Common sense should tell you that with more population, you have to build and spend more money on schools, you have to spend more money basically on hospitals and clinics, you have to spend more money on all infrastructure and also, you get frequent wear and tear which means you have to again spend more money.to keep up with population pressure on your infrastructure and services..

This is basic laws of supply and demand, this is economics 101 and public administration 101.

You are not making sens as usual. Please don't derail the thread with ignorance and layman talk.

The fact that you are sickly tribal doesn't mean you shouldn't use your brain or must think like a 2 year old.

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Atouke: 5:07pm On Sep 14, 2013

Agbameta

Akwa Ibom has more money for just 5 million people and they post the largest state budgets in Nigeria.

How do you even make such ignorant statement without population factor and exactly what each state spends..?

Leave this alone and keep an eye on the derailers, I've sent so many messages

Lagos state IGR is N20B x 12B = N240B + N120B =360B

Allocation and IGR = 360. They borrow to make up the difference at N497 billion/20 million population

Akwa Ibom with allocation or IGR or no IGR, their budet for N559 including N80 loan/2013/5million population

For 2012 it was N379B + N125B SUPLEMENTAL = N522B/5 million population. Largest state budget in Nigeria

where is your source for this misinformation? cite your sources.

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Afam4eva(m): 5:08pm On Sep 14, 2013

agbameta:

Common sense should tell you that with more population, you have to build and spend more money on schools, you have to spend more money basically on hospitals and clinics, you have to spend more money on all infrastructure and also, you get frequent wear and tear which means you have to again spend more money.to keep up with population pressure on your infrastructure and services..

This is basic laws of supply and demand, this is economics 101 and public administration 101.

You are not making sens as usual. Please don't derail the thread with ignorance and layman talk.

The fact that you are sickly tribal doesn't mean you shouldn't use your brain or must think like a 2 year old.

The laws of demand and supply will suffice if we were referring to economics. Government and business don't go hand in hand and majority of lagosians don't depend on government to do much for them as those things are taken care of by private establishments.

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by softwareman(m): 5:12pm On Sep 14, 2013

agbameta: Water works..

The water project complete with standby generator donated by Chief Akanimo Udofia, a United States based philanthropist, to Afaha Offiong community in Nsit Ibom

[img]http://www.uncommontransformation.tv/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/articles/borehole.jpg?itok=KE-PkpRZ[/img]
Are these the images if mini water works? This goes to butress the point I keep making. The capacity of a single water work in Lagos surpasses the total of the all the so called- most of the pictures are actually boreholes-in akwa ibom.

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Atouke: 5:14pm On Sep 14, 2013

agbameta:

Common sense should tell you that with more population, you have to build and spend more money on schools, you have to spend more money basically on hospitals and clinics, you have to spend more money on all infrastructure and also, you get frequent wear and tear which means you have to again spend more money.to keep up with population pressure on your infrastructure and services..

This is basic laws of supply and demand, this is economics 101 and public administration 101.

You are not making sens as usual. Please don't derail the thread with ignorance and layman talk.

The fact that you are sickly tribal doesn't mean you shouldn't use your brain or must think like a 2 year old.

look who is accusing some one of being tribal. A known tribalist like you . you are just projecting your disease on someone else as usual thats what bigots like you do.

why dont you stick to posting images of what you god fashola has done have you ran out of gas?

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by ProfOgogoro: 5:15pm On Sep 14, 2013

Afam4eva:
I've told you people to stop bringing in population as long as Lagos or any state does not feed it's population. If anything, it's to the advantage of the state with a higher populaton cos that will mean more money via taxation. We're looking at the number and quality of projects executed and only a blind man will not give it to Akpabio but if we were to rank them based on people oriented projects then it may not even go to either of them. An obscure governor may win it ahead of them.

Your comment stinks of superb unintelligence and a worrisome lack of analytical ability.

A. Five people occupy two-bedroom apartment
B. One person occupies a two-bedroom apartment

Which of the above will need more frequent maintenance??

Which of the above will depreciate faster??

Which of them will have more frequent cases of facilities breakdown??

Since the day you chickened out of a debate, I knew rational and logical thought was never your strong-point so I'm not surprised...

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by softwareman(m): 5:27pm On Sep 14, 2013

Afam4eva: As far as Infrastructural development is concerned based on the revenue that accrues to the states, i will rate Akwa-Ibom ahead of Lagos state. Though Lagos has equally done well when compared to previous governments.

You might as well say that there is no diffrence between a man who sends 10 of his upstring to private school and the one who has to send 100.
By logic the cost of providing public services for a population of 1 million is the same as the one required to provide for 10 million.

I don't want to guess what you scored in o levels economics. As for basic sociology, II do not want to guess either.

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Nobody: 5:31pm On Sep 14, 2013

It's only the ridiculously naive or mischievously inclined folks that would even rate Akpabio a distant fourth to Fasola. Sometimes, it's good to simply allow people to entertain themselves with ignorance as we now read on this thread that population means nothing in development. OR it's always a force for good irrespective of who is in charge ? Right? Of course, it brings more tax revenues? Laughable! Sounds good on the surface except that same logic doesn't seem to hold as to why Nigeria is suddenly not better than many smaller countries in Africa. Is our huge population not bringing in enough tax revenues?

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by tsomething: 5:39pm On Sep 14, 2013

Prof. Ogogoro:

Your comment stinks of superb unintelligence and a worrisome lack of analytical ability.

A. Five people occupy two-bedroom apartment
B. One person occupies a two-bedroom apartment

Which of the above will need more frequent maintenance??

Which of the above will depreciate faster??

Which of them will have more frequent cases of facilities breakdown??

Since the day you chickened out of a debate, I knew rational and logical thought was never your strong-point so I'm not surprised...

Let's also assume the occupants of the flats u narrated above both earn the same amount,

Which of the 2 flats should be better furnished as a result of the combined income of the occupants?

Even, as a result of more income by the 2 guys sharing d same flat, the financial burden on each of them when doing maintenance of broken down facilities should be less than the guy who stays alone and would be responsible for the total cost of repairs alone.

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by tsomething: 5:48pm On Sep 14, 2013

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Delafruita(m): 5:53pm On Sep 14, 2013

Afam4eva:
I've told you people to stop bringing in population as long as Lagos or any state does not feed it's population. If anything, it's to the advantage of the state with a higher populaton cos that will mean more money via taxation. We're looking at the number and quality of projects executed and only a blind man will not give it to Akpabio but if we were to rank them based on people oriented projects then it may not even go to either of them. An obscure governor may win it ahead of them.

how will anyone in his right senses make such a postulation?how does anyone even start to compare lagos to akwa-ibom?lagos is a state that has a population almost 5times that of akwa-ibom and that population increases daily.those in akwa-ibom presently are seeking ways of moving down to lagos.does it mean akpabio's roads are not beautiful enough a sight to keep them happy?

akpabio didnt start many of the projects that have been listed on this thread just like fashola didnt start many of those he is finishing.the truth is when you compare their revenues vis a vis population,fashola has done a darn good job.akpabio keeps building roads and beautifying,what has he done to boost industries in akwa-ibom?why dont the masses feel the impact of the billions that flow into that state?for those that dont know,akwa-ibom receives the highest federal allocation in nigeria of roughly 19billion naira every month.lagos reeives an average of 7billion and the bulk of its revenues come from IGR.that is the first achievement.the fact that people make money and are able to pay their taxes shows that the government is foing its job.government isnt just supposed to build roads and plant flowers,it should create the enabling environment for people to make wealth and give back.if akpabio has received trillions over the years and his state can only boast an IGR of 20billion in a year,it shows that something is wrong.even ogun state generates 4billion naifra monthly which is roughly 50billion in a year.if the people of akwa-ibom cannot buy cars,how will they benefit from the roads?how many cars ply the roads akpabio has built?

the numbr of inner-city roads fashola has built in lagos are astounding.its easy to construct a new road and make it beautiful,the hard part is in making everywhere in your city accessible.besides most of these projects are located in uyo.what of eket?ikot-ekpene and many other cities in akwa-ibom?can they boast inner-city roads that connect everywhere?the misconception about lagos is in seeing it as a whole entity.this is because there is no massive seperation between the different local governments.everywhere is jojned at its boundaries and those boundaries have disappeared.lagos state has become a huge city so when people view lagos,they view it wholistically.akpabio enjoys the benefit of his state been a big village.he can spend billions on uyo and show the world he is an achiever because the nearest city is still about one hour away.

the number of workers in lagos alone is more than the entire population of akwa-ibom.the number of primary school pupils alone is more then the entire population of akwa-ibom.i still dont understand what the basis for comparison is.but since some goons are hellbent on comparing,perhaps they can compare this

lagos generates roughly 30billion naira monthly and receives 7billion as allocation.thats about 37billion monthly

akwa-iom generates about 2billion monthly and receives about 20billion as allocation.thats about 22billion

akwa-ibom has a population of about 3million people.based on its funds thats roughly 7000naira PCI

lagos has a population of more than 15million people which makes its PCI about 2460naira

akwa-ibom has more money per person than lagos.infact it has almost triple what lagos has per person.

akwa-ibom should be able to pay unemployment benefit to its people

it should be able to bring up innovations to encourage job creation for its people.

people shouldnt judge akpabio based on roads and bridges.judge akpabio based on how much his state receives and what impact it has had on the people of his state

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Italiano1: 5:55pm On Sep 14, 2013

Afam4eva:
I[b]'ve told you people to stop bringing in population as long as Lagos or any state does not feed it's population. If anything, it's to the advantage of the state with a higher populaton cos that will mean more money via taxation.[/b] We're looking at the number and quality of projects executed and only a blind man will not give it to Akpabio but if we were to rank them based on people oriented projects then it may not even go to either of them. An obscure governor may win it ahead of them.

I cannot believe you made that statement with a straight face, are you really serious or your hatred for APC, Fashola and etc has blighted your ability to be objective?

You think it advantageous for a state like a Lagos with a relative small land mass to have a population that is skyrocketing on a daily basis due to relentless immigration? They will make more money via taxation? What an illiterate comment! Are you assuming that there is full employment in Lagos and everyone contributes to the state coffers?

You think the taxes from a higher population will be sufficient to pay for the construction of more roads, the building of more hospitals, roads, housing, schools and other infrastructures?

This is like saying the government of Luxembourg is better than that of UK because of the citizen's of the former have a better quality of life and higher GDP Per Capita without considering the key fact that the latter has a population of 60 Million and the former has a population of just half a Million- 550,000.

Ridiculous assertion Afam

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by seanet02: 5:58pm On Sep 14, 2013

Afam4eva is an illiterate i swear. See lame analysis

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 6:03pm On Sep 14, 2013

Transportation..

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 6:05pm On Sep 14, 2013

Atouke:

look who is accusing some one of being tribal. A known tribalist like you . you are just projecting your disease on someone else as usual thats what bigots like you do.

why dont you stick to posting images of what you god fashola has done have you ran out of gas?

Now I see why the tribal mod let you slide with your antics in this thread even after reporting you several times..

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 6:07pm On Sep 14, 2013

Prof. Ogogoro:

Your comment stinks of superb unintelligence and a worrisome lack of analytical ability.

A. Five people occupy two-bedroom apartment
B. One person occupies a two-bedroom apartment

Which of the above will need more frequent maintenance??

Which of the above will depreciate faster??

Which of them will have more frequent cases of facilities breakdown??

Since the day you chickened out of a debate, I knew rational and logical thought was never your strong-point so I'm not surprised...

Well said. It's like common sense is really not common to a lot of people..

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Nobody: 6:09pm On Sep 14, 2013

why cant you guys come together and organize this thread? too much confusion everywhere

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 6:14pm On Sep 14, 2013

Crassus: why cant you guys come together and organize this thread? too much confusion everywhere

I left the first thread and started this to prevent the kind of pettiness and silliness going on here, but animals got to act like animals regardless..

Disorganization and confusion is only natural especially with the mods ignoring calls to prevent it and even participating and encouraging the confusion and disorganization..

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by jaybee3(m): 6:17pm On Sep 14, 2013

Afam4eva:
I've told you people to stop bringing in population as long as Lagos or any state does not feed it's population. If anything, it's to the advantage of the state with a higher populaton cos that will mean more money via taxation. We're looking at the number and quality of projects executed and only a blind man will not give it to Akpabio but if we were to rank them based on people oriented projects then it may not even go to either of them. An obscure governor may win it ahead of them.

One question bro, what's the percentage of recurring budget of the two states?

Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by ProfOgogoro: 6:23pm On Sep 14, 2013

agbameta:
Well said. It's like common sense is really not common to a lot of people..

Instead of Afam to do his job by removing derailing comments he comes here to spew his usual senseless words.

Very shameful.

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 6:24pm On Sep 14, 2013

Skill centers and Human development

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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 6:26pm On Sep 14, 2013

Prof. Ogogoro:

Instead of Afam to do his job by removing derailing comments he comes here to spew his usual senseless words.

Very shameful.

He can not do his job in this kind of thread for obvious tribal reasons and instead of doing he, he cheerleads the ignorance and stupidity as usual.

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