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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Nobody: 6:34pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
NO CONTEST HERE, would have been a perfect thread till the troll showed up. OP bless you. 2 Likes |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by tsomething: 6:41pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
Delafruita: You are wrong, Akwa Ibom only has 700 people and not 3mill as you stated. Akpabio has only completed 3 roads in only Uyo city and after that nothing. Does that make you happier? You guys just rush to write things without reading to see if it makes sense. First let me ask some questions from the rubbish you wrote above. What is the budget of Lagos state in 2013 ? - 499Bill What is the budget of Akwa Ibom statte in 2013? - 470Bill From this we can see that Lagos clearly intends to spend more money than Akwa Ibom. Now let ask ourselves what do they spend the money on? In Akwa Ibom , at least we can see world class contractors like Juluis Berger building world class roads all around the state in a timely manner. We are building an international airport, we are building a world class stadium, a seaport, an underground drainage system to combat flooding and still it hasn't stopped him from providing FREE education in conducive classrooms for the 700pple in Akwa Ibom. It hasn't stopped him from renovating/building health centres and upgrading them? It hasn't stopped him from providing water to the most interior village even if its mere bore hole? It hasn't stopped him from repairing decayed FG roads? It hasn't pushed him to introduce over bearing taxes? It hasn't pushed him to introduce tolls on the roads? It hasn't pushed him to deport non-indigenes who enjoy the FREE education. In Lagos, Fashola has spent 7 years trying to complete a 50KM road, which is tolled at every 10km interval. He still unable to complete Lagos - Badagry expressway after 6 years . He builds schools with support from corporate bodies, yet education isn't free, rather LASU students have to pay 300K as school fees. He hasn't been able to provide water for even 40% of Lagosians because we all know everyone including you drink from private bore hole. The security vehicles and gadgets he donates to the police are from donations of coporate bodies. Even the so-called BRT u guys brag about which to me is just a glorified Molue, you guys still pay to use it. Everything the Govt provides for you from this budget, the citizens pay for it,. Now going back to your population argument, if Lagos state has the 15mill population as you claimed, it means recovering the investment used in providing these amenities should be faster and the burden on the citizens should be lesser, but has this been the case in Lagos? For example, how much would it cost Lagos state govt to complete a 50KM road ? Let's say at 1 billion a kM, that should amount to 50Billion, now how much has LASG collected so for from the toll plazas for 3 years now? If LASG is a responsive Govt, dedicating 18Bill annually from a 499Bill budget for 3 years would had completed that road without any resultant impact on the citizens. Besides I forgot to remind you that LASG still owes 610Bill despite all these, yet Akwa Ibom state only owes just 80Bill!! 6 Likes |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 6:43pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Ayekotoo(m): 6:47pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
This thread ought to be excited and interesting topic of discussion and comparison if not for some psychotic people that have derailed the thread. I will be glad if Afam, OMA4J or Sexkillz can organize this type of thread that is void of abuses, insults and disorderliness. I will be glad if Gbawe and Sincere9gerian can take up the challenge. |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by GAR3TH(m): 6:48pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
Fashola wins by a mile, why, Lagos is a non oil producing states that generated a large amount of IGR. Its one of, if not the only state in nigeria that has a significant non oil based budget. If the price of oil drops tomorrow, Akwa Ibom will be in deep trouble if not in major debt. Both states are good, but the one who works hard to get there will always be better than the one who "won" the position. 1 Like |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 6:49pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 6:51pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 6:58pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Delafruita(m): 7:02pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
t-something:can you see how myopic you are?while akpabio only has to worry about building stadiums,roads etc,fashola has to pay a civil service whose budget alone will build that stadium.fashola has to think of how to connect every single part of lagos.this doesn't require major roads,rather it requires intra-city roads which are much shorter but are required in almost every nook and cranny of lagos.even worse,construction of such roads aren't noticeable because they are just meant to serve a certain area but their functionality is noticed.I wonder why fashola will need to build a stadium .before u can compare fashola to akpabio,fashola should be receiving triple what akwa-ibom receives.but in a case where both states have almost d same budget,you need to consider the population and requirement of both states then you determine who is making more efficient use of the resources available The badagry expressway u mentioned is a federal road which is been financed by a world bank loan.unfortunately the federal government stood in the way of lagos receiving the second tranche of the loan with ngozi giving the flimsiest of excuses.but the state has restrategised and sought another avenue to fund the project and work has continued.that's what you call determination.as for the lekki-epe expressway,its unfortunate the concession didn't work as planned but at the stage it is,those of us who knew how the area was before can attest to the vast improvement.that road has served to open up that area more and with the LASG buying out the contract,its only a matter of time before the road is finished.the government has said it would issue bonds to raise the funds so as to lessen the burden on tacxpayers Therez the LFZ,eko atlantic city and many other futuristic projects which the fashola admin has embarked that only serves to prove that he's a visionary.and that's outsside also making sure government takes care of "little" people-oriented projects like mass housing,health centres,roads,schools,etc 1 Like |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 7:04pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 7:07pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 7:08pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 7:11pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 7:15pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Nobody: 7:18pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by gregg2: 7:20pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
Delafruita: You talked about population, as a person, is there anything you enjoy from Lagos State govt? I challenge you to mention just one thing that the masses in Lagos are enjoying from LASG. We pay for everything through our nose. They jacked up LASU school fees to 260,000 naira. How many people around your neighbourhood will be able to afford that amount? Now, let us go to Akwa Ibom 1) Primary and Secondary education is free 2) Tuition fees of the state owned University is about 35,000 3) Free medical treatment for infants, the aged and pregnant women 4) Their water taps run unlike Lagos where we patronise MaiRuwa and pure water 5) Taxation is very low 6) Regular foreign scholarships and bursaries 7) Free sanitation. Akpabio does not surcharge indigenes to pay for keeping his state clean I can go on and on. . . |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by bloggernaija: 7:24pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
the revenues by each inhabitant Akwa ibom - $2600 Lagos - $270 If akwa ibom gives $1000 per year to every man ,woman and child , Akpabio will still have $1600 to spend per head. Just compare the resources. Even at that , Fashola has Done more roads Thousands of paved residential street. Continuos maintenance and repairs. Equipping/maintaining largest and most competent security operation More bridges More schools More hospital. Ordinary the ongoing 8 lane ikorodu road construction has 7 bridges. everything while creating a thriving environment for business . Less than Half of the recurrent expenditure(salaries) of Lagos will pay for those 2 flyovers and 3 roads you guy like displaying ;for a state that receives the highest allocation without any effort. I ADMIT THAT AKPABIO IS BETTER THAN DELTA AND BAYELSA GOVERNORS IN THAT HE HAS A FEW ROADS AND MONUMENTS TO SHOW FOR OVER $24,000,000,0000 24 BILLION DOLLARS That is 24 with a B and the dollar Essentially 24B For a rural and docile state. HE SHOULD BE WEIGHTED AGAINST BAYELSA AND DELTA SIMILAR PROFILE THAT IS HIS GRADE. THAT IS HIS LEVEL THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE AGAINST WHOM,HE SHOULD BE COMPARED . EVEN AMAECHI IS NOT OPERATING AT AKPABIO'S LEVEL. Akpabio level no reach. AKPABIO IS RUNNING A STATE. FASHOLA IS RUNNING A COUNTRY THE REPUBLIC OF LAGOS 9 Likes |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by tsomething: 7:36pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
Delafruita: can you see how myopic you are?while akpabio only has to worry about building stadiums,roads etc,fashola has to pay a civil service whose budget alone will build that stadium.fashola has to think of how to connect every single part of lagos.this doesn't require major roads,rather it requires intra-city roads which are much shorter but are required in almost every nook and cranny of lagos.even worse,construction of such roads aren't noticeable because they are just meant to serve a certain area but their functionality is noticed.I wonder why fashola will need to build a stadium .before u can compare fashola to akpabio,fashola should be receiving triple what akwa-ibom receives.but in a case where both states have almost d same budget,you need to consider the population and requirement of both states then you determine who is making more efficient use of the resources available I chose to engage you in an argument despite all the numerous comments on this thread because only your comment had a semblance of sense in it though its flawed due to ignorance of some facts, hence reducing yourself to act like the numerous goons on this website by insulting me instead of attacking my points raised smacks of stupidity. I asked you a simple question and you are still yet to answer those questions yet you chose the ones to defend, especially if you can rope the FG in. I said and proved that all the social amenities provided by LASG as reflected in the budget are charged or tolled. Education isn't free , Healthcare isn't free, Water isn't available and the little available isn't free, Sanitation which has failed still isn't free, Transportation isn't free, Housing isn't free, Roads are tolled, Security is supported by private / corporate bodies, None of the social amenities yet ur governor claims he is spending 499Bill (plus 610Bill loan) on these things. So what are the proceeds from this investments used for, since you said the 499billion is used to take care of civil service, and the broken down facilities aren't even repaired or maintained. Please ask someone more educated than you to explain these things in a simple manner you brain can comprehend 2 Likes |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by MafiaMan: 8:01pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
How can any sane being compare a FRAUD called Apkabio with Fashola? This thread just exposed the reasons why bittered PDP paid agents and sad ibo bigots like Afam always try to downplay the efforts we Yorubas the owners of sw Nigeria put in turning her into what it is today. The funny thing is, Apkabio himself don't believe in Akwa Ibom since he even relocated his family members to Lagos. . What a shame!!! Well done @ Agbameta 2 Likes |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Randerl: 8:01pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
Talk is cheap. Akpabio shud try keeping his family in AKS Not LAGOS. t-something: 1 Like |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 8:21pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Italiano1: 8:31pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
I am perturbed as to why this thread has not made the homepage yet! This is a very informative thread and quite relevant considering the political climate in the country, it will surely benefit from posts from a wider base on NL. Kudos to the OP, he has balanced the "achievements" of both Governors reasonably well, my only criticism is that he/she should have provided all the pictures and analyses at once then the comments, posts can come after. A lot of posters have derailed the thread in between. Regardless this should make the FP. 2 Likes |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Nobody: 8:52pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
All this talks about Lagos's huge population compared to akwa ibom state's irritates me.Does Fashola feed the people of lagos? Is he the one paying for teir house rent or scool fees.The huge population is a plus for him because it means more tax revenue. To the dude who claimed the huge population will lead to Fashola building more schools and hospitals ,do you mind telling me what percentage of Lagosians attend public schools or make use of Government hospitals? The Lagos state public school system is in a very bad state and Their stsandard far below what is obtained in other states.less than 20% of lagosians attend public schools |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 8:56pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
Italiano1: I am perturbed as to why this thread has not made the homepage yet! This is a very informative thread and quite relevant considering the political climate in the country, it will surely benefit from posts from a wider base on NL. Thanks... I asked people to refrain from posting just to keep everything cleaned and organized, I even asked the mods to clean out irrelevant posts, but of course, they don't show up when you need them and the one that showed up not only ignored the senseless posts, he contributed with his own senseless posts.. 2 Likes |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Delafruita(m): 9:05pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
t-something:education isnt free in lagos?please tell me how much is paid in lagos state public schools. healthcare in lagos state medical centers is still free for children under 5 and the elderly. how and why has sanitation failed? transportation isnt free anywhere but its subsidised here in lagos via BRT the only lagos state roads tolled are the lekki toll gate at admiralty and the suspension bridge.perhaps you can also castigate the federal government for tolling the road to the airport. security isnt the responsibility of the state government but despite that lagos state has a security fund which does more for the police force than the federal government overall,fashola has done a darn good job 2 Likes |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Delafruita(m): 9:08pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
chukwudi44: All this talks about Lagos's huge population compared to akwa ibom state's irritates me.Does Fashola feed the people of lagos? Is he the one paying for teir house rent or scool fees.The huge population is a plus for him because it means more tax revenue.what sort of beer parlour statistic is this? 1 Like |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by emiye(m): 9:12pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
Afam4eva: It is you that needs to sharpen your understanding. Lagos annual IGR ---- N240 billion (from tax partly due to population) Lagos Federal allocation---- N120 billion Akwa ibom annual IGR------- N20 billion Akwa ibom Federal allocation---- over N350 billion. The real deal is in the IGR, as it takes hard work to get that, Federal allocation is like receiving pocket money from your father. For Obvious reasons, population pressure and many others, Lagos will definitely spend a greater fraction of its money on recurrent expenditure compared to Akwa ibom state, what this means is that Lagos will have less money to spend on capital expenditure projects compared Akwa ibom. Akwa ibom has a lot of money to spend on capital projects than Lagos state ------FACT 1 The real issue is that since Akwa ibom has more money to spend on capital projects than Lagos States( at least over 50% more than that of Lagos state), where are the projects to justify such huge income. |
Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by agbameta: 9:22pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
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Re: The Fashola Vs Akpabio Thread. by Italiano1: 9:23pm On Sep 14, 2013 |
chukwudi44: All this talks about Lagos's huge population compared to akwa ibom state's irritates me.Does Fashola feed the people of lagos? Is he the one paying for teir house rent or scool fees.The huge population is a plus for him because it means more tax revenue. Your post exemplifies the reason why it acutely important that education is made mandatory in all regions in Nigeria at least to the age of 18. You ask daft questions like "is the Lagos State Government paying house rents or school fees"- laughable! Is the road that you traveled from the motor park when you arrived in Lagos maintained from your pocket? Do you think it is free to fund the largest state civil service sector in Nigeria? Do you even have a cursory knowledge of the financial implications of dealing with a population of over 20 million people in a state that was meant to accommodate less than 5 million people? Public hospitals in Lagos with all the facilities procured by the Fashola administration are far better than a lot of private hospitals in Nigeria! You ask a question about the population of the number of Lagos residents that attend public schools and you conveniently and dubiously answered your own question- Can you please provide evidence that less than 20% of Lagos residents attend Public schools? Any verifiable reference to support that statement? As for your ridiculous statement about tax revenue generated by the huge population in Lagos, can you also tell us the percentage of the working age population in Lagos that pay tax, while you are ruminating on that, can you also provide a comparative analysis on the difference in the tax earnings from Lagos that goes to the National coffers compared to that of Akwa Ibom. 2 Likes |
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