michelin89:

1. That's why you are lonely!

haha dnt be too sure of ma I.D

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2. It's a man's world because women think that to have what it takes, you have to be like a man. You see them doing silly things only men used to do. I remember when I was young I rarely saw female smokers, drunkards, drug addicts. All these habits were generally the men's.

quite amazing u agree with me women want to be like men, why? not really because they want to have what it takes, i see it as competition cos they dnt wanna depend on men for virtually evrything they need, thats y u see women Engineers, Doctors, etc, by so doing they have acknowlegded the fact that its a world dominated by men and they call the shortz!, still struggling to beat that up till eternity

When I say equal I am referring to the weight of their abilities. if it's true that both men and women were created by the same god and that they are both equal before him, I believe that if he has gifted man with an ability he must have gifted the woman with another one, as important as that given to the man, to complement.

That's what I understand by equality. But I am not a xtian but I do have eyes to observe around. And what I have seen is that as much as we try to deny it men and women are different, they aren't the same (typical mistake: being the same is very different from being equal).

I didn't see this. Either you edited, either I skipped it.

If you want to take this religiously, I don't think God created male and female as equals. He created the woman to complete the man. It's somewhere in the Bible. We're equal in the eyes of God ,  I see that as we'll be judged equally. But on human terms, it's the complete opposite.

Equality to me means 'on the same level'. Fine, men (at a certain age) are less mature than women of the same age. Or we comprehend issues easily or tic tac. I can understand that. But it doesn't necessarily mean we're equal. We complement eachother on some levels but we're completely different, ability wise or whatever wise.

i think the poster was going i the rigth direction before the detour, anyway women have given a new meaning to female rights in present times, they want to be men, act think, talk and llive like them, thats impossible, they ask for too much liberation and power that will keep men under them and make them the bosses, and that in my opinion is wrong, cos even god did not design it t hat way,
women should accept that they are weaker and second only to men, that way all things will run smooooooooooothly.

Everywhere i turn to on TV are men pretending to be women
men wanting to be women.

Thank God he made me a Woman!

lonelypal:

quite amazing u agree with me women want to be like men, why? not really because they want to have what it takes, i see it as competition because they dnt want to depend on men for virtually evrything they need, thats y u see women Engineers, Doctors, etc, by so doing they have acknowlegded the fact that its a world dominated by men and they call the shortz!, still struggling to beat that up till eternity

I beg to differ, a man is not a natural engineer or doctor. That's an acquired ability and nothing stops a woman from acquiring it too.

Don't mix up natural abilities with acquired one. Thanks!

smooooooth:

i think the poster was going i the rigth direction before the detour, anyway women have given a new meaning to female rights in present times, they want to be men, act think, talk and llive like them, thats impossible, they ask for too much liberation and power that will keep men under them and make them the bosses, and that in my opinion is wrong, because even god did not design it t hat way,
women should accept that they are weaker and second only to men, that way all things will run smooooooooooothly.

I don't think we're second to men. Definitely not. This is quite a touchy subject. Hard to bring it down to writing. >< Anyway, I am not and will never be under any man. But I openly admit that we're weaker in most areas and we have to accept it.

Gamine:



Thank God he made me a Woman!

wait till you carry belle, and its due to deliver the baby,

smooooooth:

i think the poster was going i the rigth direction before the detour, anyway women have given a new meaning to female rights in present times, they want to be men, act think, talk and llive like them, thats impossible, they ask for too much liberation and power that will keep men under them and make them the bosses, and that in my opinion is wrong, because even god did not design it t hat way,
women should accept that they are weaker and second only to men, that way all things will run smooooooooooothly.

See your mouth. Sorry I went astray, but you know I aint a chauvinist!

syren:

@lonely pal
to clarify your point could you give a reason why women couldn't survive without men. just curious

Am sure u know there are several reasons why women cant survive without men, but basically it all entails the composition of the human phisionomy, which women have a lower percentage of, Biology, History has proved this

@Seastone.
its hard to understand what you posted.

@Smooooth,
i sorry 4 u

What is civilized about you when you fail to wake up from your stuck up mentality? I created this thread to invite people like you to focus on the general abilities of both sexes and here you are spitting crap. Just because we are naturally weaker, you have come to conclude that we must be subordinate to men. What an arrant nonsense.

If you haven't understood the purpose of this thread, then kindly keep your fingers to yourself.

I definitely want to see where I talked about being subordinate to men. Assuming much? If you invited 'people like me' to this thread, how about some patience and ACTUALLY trying to show me your point rather than opening your mouth and spitting bull? Hmm?

lonelypal:

Am sure u know there are several reasons why women can't survive without men, but basically it all entails the composition of the human phisionomy, which women have a lower percentage of, Biology, History has proved this

So your talking about women as a whole gender and not indivuduals?

Soin:

I didn't see this. Either you edited, either I skipped it.

If you want to take this religiously, I don't think God created male and female as equals. He created the woman to complete the man. It's somewhere in the Bible. We're equal in the eyes of God , I see that as we'll be judged equally. But on human terms, it's the complete opposite.

Equality to me means 'on the same level'. Fine, men (at a certain age) are less mature than women of the same age. Or we comprehend issues easily or tic tac. I can understand that. But it doesn't necessarily mean we're equal. We complement eachother on some levels but we're completely different, ability wise or whatever wise.

1. If a woman must complete a man, then it's obvious she has something a man doesn't have. Can you still call her an inferior?
2. Yes, on the same level of abilities. If we were to use a scale, it would be 50-50. Nature is balanced.

Soin:

I don't think we're second to men. Definitely not. This is quite a touchy subject. Hard to bring it down to writing. >< Anyway, I am not and will never be under any man. But I openly admit that we're weaker in most areas and we have to accept it.

The same way men are weak in others. A man can't do everything and you know it!

Your ass is grass if you think, Men are at the top of the racking food chain!

michelin89:

See your mouth. Sorry I went astray, but you know I aint a chauvinist!

sexist!

Soin:

I don't think we're second to men. Definitely not. This is quite a touchy subject. Hard to bring it down to writing. >< Anyway, I am not and will never be under any man. But I openly admit that we're weaker in most areas and we have to accept it.

see what i am talking about.


you go old, b4 you will learn.thank god you at least acknowledge you are weak, probably in sense too.

Soin:

I definitely want to see where I talked about being subordinate to men. Assuming much? If you invited 'people like me' to this thread, how about some patience and ACTUALLY trying to show me your point rather than opening your mouth and spitting bull? Hmm?

Ok! I ask for forgiveness. I have read your posts. It seems we failed to see each other's points right from time.

michelin89:

I beg to differ, a man is not a natural engineer or doctor. That's an acquired ability and nothing stops a woman from acquiring it too.

Don't mix up natural abilities with acquired one. Thanks!

and frm where did man aqcuire those abiltities? God came in form of a woman to teach man right? plsssssssss!

syren:

So your talking about women as a whole gender and not indivuduals?

Definitely yes, the poster wasnt talkin about any of the two as individuals either

Definitely yes,

michelin89:

1. If a woman must complete a man, then it's obvious she has something a man doesn't have. Can you still call her an inferior?
2. Yes, on the same level of abilities. If we were to use a scale, it would be 50-50. Nature is balanced.

The same way men are weak in others. A man can't do everything and you know it!

1. Completing someone doesn't scream equality. It doesn't mean you're inferior either. You can bring 30 % to the table. Note that this is only generalizing.

2. I wouldn't call nature balanced. And if we were to use a scale, I'm pretty much sure men are weighing more. Like you stated earlier, just look around. Observe.

lonelypal:


and frm where did man aqcuire those abiltities? God came in form of a woman to teach man right? plsssssssss!

Definitely yes, the poster wasnt talkin about any of the two as individuals either

Definitely yes,

1. You'll end up lonely!

2. So are you saying that the ability to become a doctor, engineer is innate in men, but not in women? So I guess you guys don't even read your books, after all, you already have the natural endowment to become one!

Natural Ability Ko!

Too many guys i know wouldnt touch engineering even if offered on a platinum platter

Soin:

1. Completing someone doesn't scream equality. It doesn't mean you're inferior either. You can bring 30 % to the table. Note that this is only generalizing.

2. I wouldn't call nature balanced. And if we were to use a scale, I'm pretty much sure men are weighing more. Like you stated earlier, just look around. Observe.

The reason why you think men's abilities would weigh more is because by looking around, men seem to be in charge everywhere. Maybe now it's like that but when we also start realizing we can do equal (not the same) great things, we'd also have our own share or achievments.

@ lonelypal

women don't want to be like men, we just want to be able to excel in whichever area we please. If men want to be hairdressers or cooks does that mean they want to be women?

smooooooth:

sexist!

see what i am talking about.


you go old, before you will learn.thank god you at least acknowledge you are weak, probably in sense too.

How about calming down and posting something that has got sense? Yeah? What do you mean by 'You go old, before you'll learn'? Are you asking for my age or what? ><

Anyway, not admitting that you're in a certain way weaker than men is ignorant. That's as much as I'll say to you.

natural abilities does not follow any sex preference, women can be anything they want to be, just like men, only that men inherited the superior place from god, and thats the way its going to be, noboday can change that, if you like knack your head for wall.

Soin:

How about calming down and posting something that has got sense? Yeah? What do you mean by 'You go old, before you'll learn'? Are you asking for my age or what? ><

Anyway, not admitting that you're in a certain way weaker than men is ignorant. That's as much as I'll say to you.

Why do you keep looking at the issue from this side alone? Why not also consider men's weakness? You make it seem, men are strong enough to be alone: if so, of what help are we and how can we complete them, when they seem to have it all?

Don't be one sided.

michelin89:

The reason why you think men's abilities would weigh more is because by looking around, men seem to be in charge everywhere. Maybe now it's like that but when we also start realizing we can do equal (not the same) great things, we'd also have our own share or achievments.

Exactly! We're talking of the present.  I am not an ', ist'. I always analyse things. Maybe in the future, women will get stronger, as you say. But for now, from what I've noticed at my early age, men outweigh women. I'm not saying it's right. I'm only stating the obvious (for me).

smooooooth:

natural abilities does not follow any sex preference, women can be anything they want to be, just like only, only that men inherited the superior place from god, and thats the way its going to be, noboday can change that, if you like knack your head for wall.

I will knack it if it serves to make you agree with my point. After I'll go to the nearest hospital to get me treated. My ideas are worth some stitches!

michelin89:

I will knack it if it serves to make you agree with my point. After I'll go to the nearest hospital to get me treated. My ideas are worth some stitches!

hehehehe, ok, ok,i agree, no need to attempt suicide.

michelin89:

Why do you keep looking at the issue from this side alone? Why not also consider men's weakness? You make it seem, men are strong enough to be alone: if so, of what help are we and how can we complete them, when they seem to have it all?

Don't be one sided.

Men are weak. Some men don't know how to cook, they don't know how to do family chores, they suck at sewing, yadi yada. They definitely don't have it all, far from that. But I still don't think it's 50 - 50. At least, so far, I haven't seen why it should be balanced.

Soin:

Men are weak. Some men don't know how to cook, they don't know how to do family chores, they suck at sewing, yadi yada. They definitely don't have it all, far from that. But I still don't think it's 50 - 50. At least, so far, I haven't seen why it should be balanced.

thats why they are men, the are meant to sit on their fat ass, why you do all the chores naaa!haba, be a woman and take it.

smooooooth:

thats why they are men, the are meant to sit on their fat ass, why you do all the chores naaa!haba, be a woman and take it.

>< I don't understand. Why do I do all the chores? I am not a family woman. At least not yet. I'm a student. What should I take? O_o