timothycel: My brother the condition for belief for an unbeliever is that prophecy in accordance with Corinthians 14 should convince you to believe. Beyond that its a matter of faith or do what Gideon did and put God to the test.

1 Corinthians 14:20- 25

"20 Brothers and sisters, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults. 21 In the Law it is written:

“With other tongues
and through the lips of foreigners
I will speak to this people,
but even then they will not listen to me,
says the Lord.”[e]

22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is not for unbelievers but for believers. 23 So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and inquirers or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24 But if an unbeliever or an inquirer comes in while everyone is prophesying, they are convicted of sin and are brought under judgment by all, 25 as the secrets of their hearts are laid bare. So they will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, “God is really among you!”

rationalmind:

lol, we all hope to read your testimony on how you eventually threw away religious garbage and turned to an atheist

Tgirl4real:

I am not foolish. That aint gonna happen in this life or in the after life.

rationalmind:

Lol, but he allowed them kill his only son na

obadiah777: he chooses those who are meek and humble in spirit. you are not meek and humble in spirit. it takes someone with a strong rebellious spirit to say all the things you have been saying on nairaland. a humble and meek spirit even if they are undecided in faith will never utter anything negative about God because of aa healthy fear of a possibility of the existence of God. thats a humble and meek spirit. but those who make disparaging attacks on God are definitely strongly reprobate and haughty spirits. so in essence, he chooses the meek and humble

Mintayo:
My oga, I am humbled o, I agree completely with this sir, meek and humble... those two are the criteria.

FOLYKAZE:

He is the God of Vengeance. Jew killed Jesus and he revenged for his blood.

Tgirl4real:

I am not foolish. That aint gonna happen in this life or in the after life.

macof:

Yes because he knew all along that his son had resurrection power.

It's like he never died
There was no true sacrifice

FOLYKAZE:

Your husband got the power. Your brilliant baby got the intelligence. You cant change but they can change you

Tgirl4real:

For ya mind.

Seriously, no intelligent person will say there is no God. He may not be able to rationalise it, but he will know for certain there is a supreme being behind the intelligence and coordination we see in this world.

rationalmind:

Hahaha, God also practices taqiyya

FOLYKAZE:


1. I want to know God

As a man, I need to contact with the reality of the world through my consciousness. I am aware of the world through sense experience. I make use of the concepts abstracted from my experience of others, I draw conclusions about the world around me. So the only way I can belief in God is if he can be spotted and know with my five sense (seeing, hearing, touching, smelling, and tasting).


2. Miracle

Being thinking of hijacking a sunday service with a loaded pistol. I can just ask the whole church to pray to God for saving their pastor when I point my pistol at his forehead......dont want to go through the thick cuz I might end in jail. Lol.

Anyway since christians believe in bible and it said that through faith mountain can shift it position, we can experiment how prayer miraculously move a little stone. If truely there is God who listen and answer prayer with supreme power, then he should answer prayer warriors request and move the stone at least a metre length. OR since God can make donkey talk, I will want to see and hear my chicken saying 'folyk, why are you tempting God, pls belief'. With this I will belief in God if he display miraculous fit like those mentioned.


3. Fill with Holy Spirit

Yeah. It is said that if we dont want to eat palm oil, we might do because of yam. Holy spirit can manifest in me which will point to the existence of God. I can remember when I was still a christian.......for good 18years, I didn't fall under anointing or holy ghost touch period while my friends roll on ground like person with epilepsy. I didn't speak in tongue, God didn't whisper to my ears, I didn't see vision of hell and no spirit talking to me. My friends can fast for 21 days but I ended up in hospital when I fasted for 2 days.
Why always me? Why cant I be like others who receive sms from demon, fall under anointing, speak in tongue or hear from God. If I should believe in God, Holy spirit should manifest in me so that I can experience divinity presence like my friends.


4. One Universal Church

Different denominations and doctrines in the house of God purged me out of christianity. Obadiah was right when he called me Ashewo.....I read the bible back then and always wish to follow it but always find church doctrines contradicting both other churches pattern and bible. So when I find any contradiction, I divorce the denomination for another. The worst is the multiplying division against self in christiandom........if you want to see the bad part of your church, you need to view it from other churches. Jehovah Witness bashing catholic, catholic mocking protestant, deeper life hating c/s, celestial exposing christ embassy hypocrisy and Redeem forming holier than thou. I worshipped in almost every church is my locality.....but seem they are lying and deceiving self when watched from a separate church.
God call for one body..... When there is this one body, it can prove that yes there is someone who speak and host human race as one body in christ. With this, I can belief in christ which draw God in too.


5. Accessible Gateway

It only in nairaland I know that there is updated spiritual-tech when pastor Jo informed us demon now send text message. Back in sunday school class, we were told that God telephone number is J.E.S.U.S. I grew up to find out that you cant press J when dialing call. The doubt about God existence came through this and other deceptive gospel. When we are million mile apart, I can chat through internet provided there is network. I can ring your line, post you letter and speak physically with you by travelling down. This goes with high profile people yet we are all the creation of God.
If there is a God, I will believe in him if there is an accessible gateway through wish I can communicate with him. Telephone, email account, bbm pin, or heaven transport route leading to him can definately make me believe totally in his existence.


The above are my conditions which will make me belief in the existence of God and convert back to christian.....

PAGAN 9JA:
How can I reconvert to a religion I was never in the first place.

Tgirl4real:

For ya mind.

Seriously, no intelligent person will say there is no God. He may not be able to rationalise it, but he will know for certain there is a supreme being behind the intelligence and coordination we see in this world.

FOLYKAZE:

Dear John. There are more to my post as in personal warfare.....but I hold unto what doesn't kill ya makes you stronger.

Am serious about this, if the above condition can be reach, am converting.

Ishilove:
Lol. These are the conditions of someone who has made up his mind not to know God.

Ishilove:
Lol. These are the conditions of someone who has made up his mind not to know God.

FOLYKAZE:

Taqiyya stem from him and christians took their share of kitman from him.

1 Kings 22:23
King James Version (KJV)
23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.

obadiah777: gaddem heathen smdh

Ishilove:
So you are giving the Almighty God conditions?

I laugh in Sanskrit. Foly, there is nothing any one will say here that will convince you. All you need is one, just one encounter with the supernatural and you will be convinced.

FOLYKAZE:

God know I try all my best seeking him. And you christians never help.

A good shepherd search for his lost sheep but it sheep now looking for lost shepherd. Been some years in the wild, sheep is now buffalo.....

Lol

rationalmind:

You must have had that one encounter yourself. Do you mind sharing it with us? Who knows, it may convince us as well

Ishilove:
So you are giving the Almighty God conditions?

I laugh in Sanskrit. Foly, there is nothing any one will say here that will convince you. All you need is one, just one encounter with the supernatural and you will be convinced.

Ishilove:
The reason why I don't engage in 'my God is better than your god' debates in this section is for this simple reason: No one can be debated into the kingdom of God. People think it is about winning arguments and scoring points. That is utter bollocks.

I can share with you many of my experiences; some personal, some are the ones I have been privileged to witness, and you still won't be convinced. Why? Because it is the Holy Spirit who is responsible for producing fruit. We simply take the initiative to share Christ in the power of the Holy Spirit and leave the results to God. It is the Holy spirit that persuades and convicts the heart of the unbeliever, so I leave you to Him to work on.

FOLYKAZE:

Seriously No hope again. After 18yrs, the holy spirit couldn't do a single work on me....better I work out my salvation with my own hands

Ishilove:
Are you sure in all eighteen years He didn't work on you? He did, Foly, you were just not receptive to it.

FOLYKAZE:

The day I tried to be receptive at all cost I ended in hospital

FOLYKAZE:

Only if your Gods take the war front. Christian crusade is continual.....

Looking forward to Pagan and Christian debate.

Ishilove:
It is not only buffalo. Warthog nko? Lol

'A good sheperd looks for his lost sheep' is correct, but what happens when the lost sheep refuses to heed the sheperd's call?

Foly, be sincere, have you ever genuinely really sought the face of God without putting conditions? What I see here is you wanting to know God on your own terms, and not the other way around. You seek a God you can analyse, completely understand, a God with a human face whom you can interact with on a human level. Well, the thing is there several gods who meet that criteria but not the Almighty God. What I read in your post is pride, arrogance and a stubborn heart. Until you genuinely seek Him without any conditions attached, until you go to Him with a open heart, you will not get the answers you seek.

Until then, all you are doing is child's play.

Ajibam:

lol...how?