Like why do people treat the jehovah witnesses like a plaque whenever they come to people houses.like dis sunday and also last sunday too,I wuz at a freinds place(christians oo) and the jehovah witnesses came,before dey could even open deir mouth 2 say who dey were after greeting while stAndin at the entrance door,my freinds elder one just came and banged the door at their faces like Dafuq....is dis forreal...I wuz like wat wuz d reason, dey were like don't mind dem johr.... So Nlanders do u do it too,and if u do,wat makes avoid dem weneva dey come 2 your house


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I no knw walai, abi their kpekus deh smell?

The reason is simple, Jesus said if they treated him like sh.it, so also will they treat his followers. For the truth seekers, if you find time to listen to them, they will answer all your question, citing your own bible. It appears to me that they are basically the only people that say it the way it is hence a lot of the other religous propagandists do not want to hear them telling them the gospel truth.

By the way i like your moniker @ booty

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Thanks by d way!

I receive them well, even though I'm Catholic and they always demonize my faith.

I receive them with love because they are Children of God and I appreciate the zeal they put into preaching what they believe is God's truth...even though they are in error.

I believe I can do this because I know enough about my faith and their to be able to spot their errors.

Many Christians dont know enough to refute them so they feel the best thing is to avoid them.

Its okay to avoid anyone you choose to, but you can do it lovingly and politely.

We are all Children of God.

What do you mean by gospel truth?

That Jesus came in 1914?

That heaven got filled in 1935?

That Abraham, Isaac and Jacob came to earth in 1925?

All these Jehovah's witnesses prophecies (and many many more) are what you call "gospel truth?"

hardbody: The reason is simple, Jesus said if they treated him like sh.it, so also will they treat his followers. For the truth seekers, if you find time to listen to them, they will answer all your question, citing your own bible. It appears to me that they are basically the only people that say it the way it is hence a lot of the other religous propagandists do not want to hear them telling them the gospel truth.

By the way i like your moniker @ booty

I Receive Them Politely But Sincerely Not Interested in their Preaching. Sometimes it can Be Confusing and Contradicting to what you already Know as a Christian. Meaning Their Ideologies are Quite Different!

So what i Normally do is Outrightly Demand their "Awake" and "Watchtower" Because they are Quite Enlightening and informative!

Off I go

By the way why is it that they do not like praying to God ??

italo: What do you mean by gospel truth?

That Jesus came in 1914?

That heaven got filled in 1935?

That Abraham, Isaac and Jacob came to earth in 1925?

All these Jehovah's witnesses prophecies (and many many more) are what you call "gospel truth?"

You are just pointless. I dont know what you mean by Jesus came in 1914. is it visible or invisible? beware of allegation.

1935, I ve explained that to you. 1925, changed. We do not say we are infallible just like your pope.

Catholics have made wrong predictions too, even though they claim infallibility and inspiration.

All those things you mentioned above, are not now taught by the witnesses. I wonder how you do your refuting. Is it not this one I see in nairaland?

Godson201333: By the way why is it that they do not like praying to God ??

They pray to God thru Jesus Christ sir. If you mean the first call, they wont pray, but if the study is established, they will begin and close with prayer. ie for bible study.

Iceman296: I Receive Them Politely But Sincerely Not Interested in their Preaching. Sometimes it can Be Confusing and Contradicting to what you already Know as a Christian. Meaning Their Ideologies are Quite Different!

So what i Normally do is Outrightly Demand their "Awake" and "Watchtower" Because they are Quite Enlightening and informative!

Off I go

You are doing quite well by reading the watchtower and awake. You can always access our publications or know more about what we believe at www.jw.org

True, many of what we teach is contrary to what others teach. many never knew that was a time we celebrated chrismas in the past, celebrated birthdays, believed that all righteous people will go to heaven, used titles, joined the military to fight war, joined politics etc., But we have changed all those things. we no longer believe in them. will it not be good to sit with them and know why they made the changes?

As a lover of truth, you may come to see reasons with them.

JMAN05:

You are just pointless. I dont know what you mean by Jesus came in 1914. is it visible or invisible? beware of allegation.

You should tell us. Didnt the JWs prophesy that Jesus would come in 1914?

JMAN05: 1935, I ve explained that to you. 1925, changed. We do not say we are infallible just like your pope.

Didnt JWs teach that heaven got filled in 1935? Didn't they prophesy in 1925 that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would come to earth? Didnt you people build a mansion for them only to quietly sell it when those holy men shamed you and didn't come?

JMAN05: Catholics have made wrong predictions too, even though they claim infallibility and inspiration.

In your fallible JW opinion.

JMAN05: All those things you mentioned above, are not now taught by the witnesses. I wonder how you do your refuting. Is it not this one I see in nairaland?

Why then did they teach lies in the past?

hardbody: The reason is simple, Jesus said if they treated him like sh.it, so also will they treat his followers. For the truth seekers, if you find time to listen to them, they will answer all your question, citing your own bible. It appears to me that they are basically the only people that say it the way it is hence a lot of the other religous propagandists do not want to hear them telling them the gospel truth.

By the way i like your moniker @ booty

Be careful o! Na so fornication take dey start.

MyJoe:
Be careful o! Na so fornication take dey start.

No worry, The guy body hard, na real firewood.

italo:
You should tell us. Didnt the JWs prophesy that Jesus would come in 1914?

Didnt JWs teach that heaven got filled in 1935? Didn't they prophesy in 1925 that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would come to earth? Didnt you people build a mansion for them only to quietly sell it when those holy men shamed you and didn't come?

In your fallible JW opinion.


Why then did they teach lies in the past?

pickin. I understand your delima. all these has been answered. stop shivering, it won't cure your bp.

https://www.nairaland.com/1506699/jman05-please-defend-jehovahs-witnesses

JMAN05:

pickin. I understand your delima. all these has been answered. stop shivering, it won't cure your bp.

https://www.nairaland.com/1506699/jman05-please-defend-jehovahs-witnesses

I dont see answers there. I only see more Watchtower lies.

I receive Jws with love and I read their publications.

italo: What do you mean by gospel truth?

That Jesus came in 1914?

That heaven got filled in 1935?

That Abraham, Isaac and Jacob came to earth in 1925?

All these Jehovah's witnesses prophecies (and many many more) are what you call "gospel truth?"

Italo, face the truth.

Has any witness visited you to teach you any of the above?
If they haven't, I think you don't need to bring up these things.


Its not different from when a non-catholic brings up some 'amazing facts' in the history of the catholic church and condemn you guys with that.

adsonstone:

Italo, face the truth.

Has any witness visited you to teach you any of the above?
If they haven't, I think you don't need to bring up these things.


Its not different from when a non-catholic brings up some 'amazing facts' in the history of the catholic church and condemn you guys with that.

You want me to face the truth? Okay accompany me in facing Jehovah's Witnesses "gospel truths."

First things first...did Jehovah's Witnesses teach those "truths" or not?

If they did, were those "truths" true or false?

Your hypocrisy deceit and lies/hatred for the jw knows no bound.

You look for every oppurtunity to vomit your bile.

italo: I receive them well, even though I'm Catholic and they always demonize my faith.

I receive them with love because they are Children of God and I appreciate the zeal they put into preaching what they believe is God's truth...even though they are in error.

I believe I can do this because I know enough about my faith and their to be able to spot their errors.

Many Christians dont know enough to refute them so they feel the best thing is to avoid them.

Its okay to avoid anyone you choose to, but you can do it lovingly and politely.

We are all Children of God.

You cant nor have you been able to defend your beliefs as a catholic on this forum, but will ever post irrelevant things.

You will say that Jesus words that this "generation will not pass away" is a lie since JW preached it.

Bible chronologies to you are lies since JW preached it.

Does the catholic church still preach the inqusition today ? No, but they did just that in the past.

Between the inquisition and the bible chronology that the JW research into that has nothing to do with "Day and hour", which is more wicked and evil for a religiouse body ?

The greatest evil of all time has been commited by the catholic church, but the thing that blinds your eyes will not let you see those.

That you people(rcc) dont take the bible seriousely and hence dont research into it as to know that those calculations are in the bible, is it jw fault ?

Why not concentrate on your rcc and their man God (pope)

They should go and preach in the places where the good news has not been heard, it's good for christianity. What more do they want to tell me that I don't know OK, this is what I know

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Jehovah's Witnesses.

Almost everyone knows of their aggressive door-to-door proselytizing. The organization they represent, known as the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society (WTB&TS), emphasizes end time prophecy and has falsely predicted the end of the world many times. The WTB&TS exercises rigid control over Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) and prohibits their participation in such common activities as taking blood transfusions, celebrating birthdays or holidays (including Christmas, Easter, and Mother's Day), voting, flag saluting, and military service. Through these restrictions, the WTB&TS builds a wall of isolation between Jehovah's Witnesses and the rest of society.

JW History

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society boldly claims to be the only organization God is using today to teach His truth and speak for Him. ' According to the WTB&TS, all non-JWs will be destroyed at Armageddon, an event of divine judgment it threatens is just around the corner. The WT Society prints over 14 million copies of its magazines every week, and has over 4 million Jehovah's Witnesses spreading its doctrines in 200 countries. What follows are some essential facts everyone should know about the history and doctrine of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Borrowed Beliefs and Doctrines

Charles T. Russell (1852- 1916) founded the JW movement. As a teenager he rejected his Presbyterian roots, joined a more liberal Congregational Church, then left this group as well. He denied the deity of Christ and the biblical teachings on hell and eternal punishment. Russell had no formal Bible training, but borrowed and built upon various teachings that were popular at the time. For example, Adventism influenced his denial of hell, and a splinter Adventist group led by N.H. Barbour aroused his interest in endtime prophecies. From Barbour he borrowed the belief that Christ returned invisibly to the world in 1874, and that 1914 was the year the world would be destroyed and the Millennium would begin.

Fantastic Claims

In 1879 Russell started his own magazine, Zion's Watchtower and Herald of Christ's Presence (now known as The Watchtower), to promote his doctrines. People were drawn to Russell's sensational endtime predictions, and the organization grew.

In spite of his lack of formal training in theology or biblical languages, Russell claimed to be the only one with the truth, and he vigorously condemned all other Christian religions. As a result, ministers of various denominations began exposing Russell's false teachings and questionable character.

Flawed Character

Rev. J.J. Ross published a pamphlet that exposed Russell's false claims and doctrines. He revealed that Russell "never attended the higher schools of learning; knows comparatively nothing of philosophy, systematic or historical theology; and is totally ignorant of the [biblical] languages [i.e. Hebrew and Greek]". Ross concluded that Russell's teaching was "anti-rational, anti-scientific, anti-Biblical, [and] anti-Christian." Russell unsuccessfully tried to stop circulation of this damaging information by suing Rev. Ross for defamatory libel. However, he not only lost the suit, but in the process perjured himself in court when he lied under oath about his knowledge of the Greek language. In the end Russell admitted the statements about himself in the pamphlet were true.5

In 1906 Russell ' s wife successfully sued for divorce because of "his conceit, egotism, domination and improper conduct in relation to other women," and won a settlement of $6,036.  The court severely censured Russell and called his conduct "insulting," "domineering" and "overbearing" to a degree which made life intolerable to a sensitive Christian woman.

In 1913, Russell unsuccessfully sued The Brooklyn Daily Eagle for libel when that paper exposed his fraudulent attempts to sell ordinary wheat at the exorbitant price of $60 a bushel, claiming it was "Miracle Wheat.''

Failed Prophecies

Despite these setbacks, Russell continued to attract people with his fantastic prophetic interpretations and dramatic warnings that Armageddon would strike in 1914. When 1914 came and went, he changed the date to 1915. Russell died in 1916, leaving his followers doubting and disillusioned by his predictive failures. Joseph Franklin Rutherford then took control of the organization.

Prophecy For Profit

Rutherford (1869-1942) also used the threat of Armageddon to intimidate JWs. He published The Finished Mystery, a book which predicted that in 1918 God would destroy churches and millions of their members, and claimed that by 1920 every kingdom would be swallowed up in anarchy. Rutherford taught that the only way to escape the impending judgment and destruction was to join the Watchtower organization.

Fear of Armageddon motivated Witnesses to work hard selling Rutherford's books and other Watchtower Society literature. When the 1918 and 1920 predictions failed, Rutherford set a new date in his book titled Millions Now Living Will Never Die (1920). It taught that the millennium would start in 1925 and that Old Testament saints like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and David would come back to life. The WT Society even built a luxurious Spanish mansion called Beth-Sarim (House of Princes), supposedly to house these patriarchs. In the meantime, however, Rutherford conveniently moved ... into the mansion. He also drove an expensive new car throughout the Great Depression, while rank and file JWs sold Watchtower books and pamphlets door-to-door, and worked at Bethel headquarters for $10 - $15 a month. Six years after Rutherford's death in 1942, the Old Testament saints still had not arrived, so the Society quietly sold "Beth Sarim," thus closing an embarrassing chapter in their predictive history.

Tampering With The Bible

Under the leadership of Nathan H. Knorr (1905-1977) the WT Society put away date setting for a time and switched to a different strategy. Since many of their teachings could be refuted by key verses in the King James Bible, Knorr set out to publish a different Bible for JWs to use. Called the New World Translation (NWT), it blatantly altered many verses to support Watchtower doctrine. The single best example of this is John 1: 1, which in the King James Version clearly declares Jesus' deity-"the Word was God." JWs deny the deity of Christ, so the NWT renders this phrase "the Word was a god." The translation committee responsible for the NWT was kept anonymous, undoubtedly to cover up their complete lack of scholarly qualifications. None of the men who worked on this project had any formal training in the biblical languages, except for Frederick Franz. He was chairman of the committee and had studied Greek for two years at the University of Cincinnati without graduating, and was only self-taught in Hebrew. After Knorr's death, Franz became the Watchtower Society's new President.

Intimidation And A Lack Of Integrity

From 1960 to 1966 the organization's growth rate slowed considerably. At this point the WTB&TS introduced a new book and a new date for the end of the world. Life Everlasting in the Freedom of the Sons of God (1966) by Vice President Franz (1894-1992 ) concluded that the autumn of 1975 would mark the beginning of the seventh period of human history. The Society was careful to avoid printing an outright prediction, but the message was clear to Jehovah's Witnesses everywhere-Armageddon was coming soon. Some even sold their homes and property in 1974 and were praised by their leaders for doing so.

Membership grew by the thousands until 1975 came and went. Then many people realized God was not leading the WT Society and left the organization. The leaders of the WTB&TS refused to admit they had been wrong about 1975, and instead told disillusioned JWs to "adjust their viewpoint."

Today many people are unaware of these damaging facts, and the Witnesses continue to grow in number, publishing massive amounts of deceptive literature. The WT Society demands complete loyalty and still predicts Armageddon is coming soon with sure annihilation for anyone who does not join the organization or leaves its ranks. In spite of a history marred by manipulation and false prophecies, the WT Society still claims to be the only one teaching the truth.

Testing the Watchtower Prophet

Deuteronomy 18:21-22 we are told that anyone who claims to speak as a prophet of God and predicts something that does not come true is a false prophet. "And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?

When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."(KJV)

According to the Bible, one false prophecy makes the speaker a false prophet. By this test the Watchtower Society's prophecies concerning 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925 and 1975 prove beyond a doubt it is a false prophet and that we should turn away from this group's deceptive doctrines.

JW Doctrine

When an organization like the WTB&TS claims to be the only true religion and the sole source of correct Bible teaching, we must carefully examine their beliefs. If their doctrines are true, they will be found in the Bible, and their teachings will be consistent and unchanging year after year. Jehovah's Witnesses, however, deny or twist many of the Bible s basic teachings, and their beliefs conflict with those held by orthodox Christians down through the centuries. Consider the following comparisons.

Non-biblical Beliefs

The Nature of God. The Bible teaches that there is only one true God (Isa.43:10-11; 44:6,. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are identified as distinct Persons within the one Triune Godhead (Matt.3:16-17; 2 Cor.13:14). Throughout the New Testament the Son and the Holy Spirit, as well as the Father are separately identified as God. Each has divine attributes and acts as God (Son: Mark 2:5-12; John 20:28; Heb. l :8; Holy Spirit: Acts 5:3-4; 2 Cor. 3:17-18).

By contrast, the WTB&TS denies the triune nature of God and teaches that such a belief is inspired by Satan and teaches that Jehovah, the name of the one true God, corresponds only to God the Father. JWs also deny that Jesus is God (see next point). They deny the Holy Spirit is a person, and instead teach he is merely God's active force, similar to electricity.

Jesus Christ. The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh, and is the Creator of all things (John 1: 1 -3,14; Col.1: 16). While never less than God, at the appointed time He laid aside the glory He shared with the Father and took on a human nature ( John 17:3-5; Phil. 2:6-11; Col. 2:9). Following his death, Jesus Christ rose bodily from the grave, appeared to and was recognized in his body by over 500 people. This fact was crucial to both the preaching and faith of the early church (Luke 24:39; John 2:19-21; I Cor. 15:6, 14).

By contrast, the WTB&TS denies the deity of Jesus Christ and teaches that Jesus is a created being who existed as Michael the archangel before being born as a perfect man. JWs believe that after Jesus was buried, God disposed of his physical body. He was raised a spiritual creature and "materialized" to make himself visible. Now in heaven he is once again known as Michael the archangel.

Salvation. The Bible teaches that the atoning work of Christ alone provides the solution for man's sin problem. Jesus Christ took the personal sins of all men-past, present and future-in his own body on the tree (I Pet. 2:24), and as perfect God and perfect man he fully met the demands of Divine justice for us (Rom. 3:22-26). Therefore, any and all who receive him by simple faith (John 1:12; Acts 16:31), can be forgiven, declared righteous and restored to fellowship with God (2 Cor. 5:21; Heb. 7:24-26).

By contrast, the WTB&TS teaches that only an elite group of Witnesses, known as "the 144,000," or the "anointed ones" are presently credited with Christ's righteousness. Only the 144,000 are born again and expect to reign with Christ in heaven. For the vast majority of remaining JWs, known as the "other sheep" or the "great crowd," the atoning sacrifice of Christ only provides a chance at eternal life on earth.

The Bible also teaches that we are saved by grace alone apart from any self-righteous works (Eph.2:8-9). There is nothing we can do to contribute to our salvation because apart from Jesus Christ we are "dead in our sins" (Eph. 2:1,5).

By contrast, the WTB&TS teaches that salvation "will depend on one's works." A person must first "come to Jehovah ' s organization for salvation and then comply with everything they teach. In this way, a relationship with the Jehovah's Witnesses organization, rather than a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, is presented as the basis of salvation.

The Soul & Eternal Punishment. The Bible teaches that the human soul continues to exist consciously after death (Is.14:9-11; Luke 16:19-31;Rev 6:9-11). Those who have rejected God's gift of eternal life will suffer conscious eternal punishment (Matt. 25:41,46; Rev. 14:10,11; 20:10,15).

By contrast, the WTB&TS denies eternal punishment and teaches that the soul cannot exist apart from the body. JWs believe that death ends all conscious existence. Hell refers to the grave and those who are ultimately judged by God will be annihilated and simply cease to exist.

The Bible. The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit's anointing enables individual Christians to understand God's Word and properly apply it to their lives ( I John 2:27).

By contrast the WTB&TS teaches that the Bible can only be interpreted by the Watchtower Society and no individual can learn the truth apart from them.

loveroftruth: Your hypocrisy deceit and lies/hatred for the jw knows no bound.

You look for every oppurtunity to vomite you bile.



You cant nor have you been able to defend your beliefs as a catholic on this forum, but will ever post irrelevant things.

You will say that Jesus words that this "generation will not pass away" is a lie since JW preached it.

Bible chronologies to you are lies since JW preached it.

Does the catholic church still preach the inqusition today ? No, but they did just that in the past.

Between the inquisition and the bible chronology that the JW research into that has nothing to do with "Day and hour", which is more wicked and evil for a religiouse body ?

The greatest evil of all time has been commited by the catholic church, but the thing that blinds your eyes will not let you see those.

That you people(rcc) dont take the bible seriousely and hence dont research into it as to know that those calculations are in the bible, is it jw fault ?

Why not concentrate on your rcc and their man God (pope) ?

All because I ask if Jehovah's Witnesses taught those "truths?"

italo:

That Jesus came in 1914?

That ^ date is a biblical caculation as to when the messaiah will appear assumed kingdom power after seating on God's right hand side.

A new president will first be enthroned in the head quarters first, then he will clean the head quarters of wrongs, then he will extend such cleansing to other parts of his kingdom.

Christ was enthrone as king in heaven in 1914, the first thing that he did was to removed satan out of heaven, hence, satan presence on earth with anger shows on the nations becoming rathfull as typified by the war of all nations in 1914 = the first world war.

After cleansing of the heavens, christ the new appointed king will extend the cleansing to the earth, which is why the bible says that Satan have a short period of time left.

Hence, satan is very angry since he will soon be removed from the earth as well.

Christ action in heaven was invisable to humans, just as we could not see when satan was sent out of heaven.

This 1914 calculation has been preached by the jw for about 30years befor the date itself.

italo:
That heaven got filled in 1935?

The Jws had always hoped that all righteouse people will go to heaven befor that 1935 date, but in 1935, they showed from the bible that the bible has two classes of righteouse people, some to rule in heaven, and the others to live on earth forever.
This new understanding was in 1935, and effort ever since has been on preaching to this "uncountable multitude", why de-emphersising on going to heaven, they made it clear that new peole can still be called by God into the heavenly kingdom, eg. Those with such hope can fall, what happens ? Will God not replace the person ?

In all, the bible says it is 144,000 persons that will go to heaven the bible says. In all, it is God that decides who goes to heaven. Jw just show to its members what is found in the bible.

The jw in that year redirected their attention to gathering the multitude of Uncountable human for everlasting life, while you and your rcc till date still preach the lie that "all righteouse persons goes to heaven".

So, in all, 1935 was the year that the jw redirected their attention to the multitude that will live forever on a paradise earth.

Why not first concern yourself with the lie that the rcc teach ?
The lie that all righteouse persons goes to heaven. If i were you, i should first concern myself with the lie/enemy in rcc.

italo:
That Abraham, Isaac and Jacob came to earth in 1925?

did you say that they said "Abraham, Isaac, Jacob came to earth ?

That up there is a lie.

If you had said that the JW had expected the end, it will have been very plusible cause my Jw and me as a Jw are constantly in expectation of the end. But we are ever on the watch and look out as Jesus said we should. We know this are are the last days.

But you and rcc dont think so, since you and your learders have basically turned to atheist
and have lost faith in the scriptures, to you, God's promise of a kingdom is not real, hence, you shift it to the death of people only and not that God's kingdom will literaly come as Jesus had ask us to pray for it to come.

italo:
All these Jehovah's witnesses prophecies (and many many more) are what you call "gospel truth?"

The message that the Jw preach is that "the kingdom of God is the solution to human kind problems". (old age, sickness and death).

That ^ was what God said will happened to Adam if they disobeyed = death, that is what the Kingdom will removed after satan has been proved a liar.

"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." (Revelation 21:4).

italo:

All because I ask if Jehovah's Witnesses taught those "truths?"

Nope ! Jw go from people houses to houses to answer peoples questions.

But yours is hatred for jw that preached God's kingdom.

See above to see my answers to what your wicked intents are here, so, stop lying.

You are deceitful.

italo:
You should tell us. Didnt the JWs prophesy that Jesus would come in 1914?

Didnt JWs teach that heaven got filled in 1935? Didn't they prophesy in 1925 that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would come to earth? Didnt you people build a mansion for them only to quietly sell it when those holy men shamed you and didn't come?

In your fallible JW opinion.


Why then did they teach lies in the past?

see above for my answers.

Please, that ^ and the inquisition, which is an evil ?

italo:

I dont see answers there. I only see more Watchtower lies.

When you cannot see the lies that rcc feed you, how can you see 'truth' ?

When you people fight to discredit the bible, how can you see the truth even when it hits you on the face ?

italo:

You want me to face the truth? Okay accompany me in facing Jehovah's Witnesses "gospel truths."

First things first...did Jehovah's Witnesses teach those "truths" or not?

If they did, were those "truths" true or false?

Every one knows that Jw preach God's kingdom.

Jw also go into biblical chronologies and presensts there findings.

You and your kind will ignore what they really stand for = 'God's kingdom', and come up with propaganda.

You first should ask why your organisation the rcc turns most of its members to atheist and that is almost impossible amongst the jws ?

Who is doing the work of satan then ?

By their fruit, ye shall know them, Jesus had said.

italo:

You want me to face the truth? Okay accompany me in facing Jehovah's Witnesses "gospel truths."

First things first...did Jehovah's Witnesses teach those "truths" or not?

If they did, were those "truths" true or false?

All you're just doing is 'blind criticism'.

I said 'face the truth' and the question was: has any witness taught you these things you accuse them of at any tine they visited you?

You can't even answer that as simple as it is yet, you keep railing accusations of false teachings.

If they have taught these in the past, I'm sure you'll understand what they meant from what loveroftruth and Jman05 explained on this thread and the other Jw thread you opened unless you choose to ignore their words and continue your accusation.


By the way, answer what I asked you
(the bold).

adsonstone:

All you're just doing is 'blind criticism'.

I said 'face the truth' and the question was: has any witness taught you these things you accuse them at any tine they visited you?

You can't even answer that as simple as it is yet, you keep railing accusation of false teachings.

If they have taught these in the past, I'm sure you'll understand what they meant from what loveroftruth and Jman05 explained on this thread and the other Jw thread you opened unless you choose to ignore their words and continue your accusation.

He Italo is not interested in the truth, but to do the work of his "father".

Kumuyi and russell wouldn't have been a team if not for a cause

To spite the truth/church