Joshthefirst: smh.

Keep shaking it. Here is another one for you

Luke 9:62
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
62 But Jesus said to him, “No one, after putting his
hand to the plow and looking back, is fit for the
kingdom of God.

The bible is so clear n not ambiguous about the criterias for making heaven. Only Josh wants to dismiss all others and keep hammering on "the wages of sin is death".

Dance around this one as usual.

rationalmind:

Keep shaking it. Here is another one for you

Luke 9:62
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
62 But Jesus said to him, “No one, after putting his
hand to the plow and looking back, is fit for the
kingdom of God.

The bible is so clear n not ambiguous about the criterias for making heaven. Only Josh wants to dismiss all others and keep hammering on "the wages of sin is death".

Dance around this one as usual.

Jesus meant going back into sin.
Falling away from the faith.

The first issue was adressed in my previous post. Anyone who chooses not to be willfully blind can see it.

Joshthefirst: when did I dance around anything? The message of the bible is that people will go to hell for commiting iniquity. And I stand on its authority.

How many times will I repeat the fact from the bible that:

the wages of sin is death?

Ola's main teachings from the beginning have been the same with mine.
We've been saying the same thing most of the time.

The wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus our lord.
[size=20pt]That is the gospel. Any other gospel preached apart from that only decieves men and lands them in hell.

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And who are you to judge which is the right interpretation and the wrong?
Am I not a christian? Was the bible not written for me to grow and learn? It is hypocritical for you to start claiming your own interpretation to God given words and reject the words of those who discern it spiritually.

How can you make up an interpretation and hang everyuthing on it when the bible itself clearly states that it is spiritually discerned. Why would you discard the words of the spiritual people who discern the bible and make up your own world view based on your clearly misguided interpretations to justify yourself?

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

This is how we know if the doctrine and interpretation is correct. Does it make the man thoroughly furnished unto all good works? By their fruits we shall know.

Joshthefirst: Jesus meant going back into sin.
Falling away from the faith.

The first issue was adressed in my previous post. Anyone who chooses not to be willfully blind can see it.

The issue has been addressed in my previous post. Anyone who chooses not to be wilfully blind can see it.

Rationalmind:

They will also go to
hell for preaching what they[b]believe[/b] in.

Let me put it this way. Any other gospel does not deal with the problem of sin. It only decieves men further and lands them into sin all the more.
Do you understand now?

Joshthefirst: Let me put it this way. Any other gospel does not deal with the problem of sin. It only decieves men further and lands them into sin all the more.
Do you understand now?

A taoist preaches males should have many female sexu.al partners which to you is sin. You feel he is going to hell for doing what he has been indoctrinated and absolutely believes to be true because he commits what his religion doesn't see as sin but urs.

You feel your definition of sin given by your own gospel is the world wide definition of sin in all other gospels.

That's even ignoring the fact that, God allowed him to be born into a home where such a religion is practised.

rationalmind:

A taoist preaches males should have many female sexual partners which to you is sin. You feel he is going to hell for doing what he has been indoctrinated and absolutely believes to be true because he commits what his religion doesn't see as sin but urs.

You feel your definition of sin given by your own gospel is the world wide definition of sin in all other gospels.

That's even ignoring the fact that, God allowed him to be born into a home where such a religion is practised.

this is a blatant lie

Sin is sin. It is commonly written in our consciousness and woven into the very fabric of creation. Sin unites mankind in wrongdoing.

Let me ask you a question: is rape wrong?






I'm going to bed now, we can continue this tomorrow hopefully.

Joshthefirst: this is a blatant lie

Sin is sin. It is commonly written in our consciousness and woven into the very fabric of creation. Sin unites mankind in wrongdoing.

Let me ask you a question: is rape wrong?






I'm going to bed now, we can continue this tomorrow hopefully.

Will reply u tomorw. Need to sleep now as well. Goodnight.

This Josh is brain dead.I have always said it.why should we believe you and not the allah worshippers? If you ever have kids don't take them for immunisation because ending one disease brings another.you're simply an I.diot.I know you're not even smart enough to feel s.tupid. Damn!

rationalmind:

Will reply u tomorw. Need to sleep now as well. Goodnight.

goodnight sir.

peterphd: This Josh is brain dead.I have always said it.why should we believe you and not the allah worshippers? If you ever have kids don't take them for immunisation because ending one disease brings another.you're simple an I.diot.I know you're not even smart enough to feel s.tupid. Damn!

You are the foolish one if you think I don"t support science when its written clearly in my post. Maybe you didn't read it.

You go around insulting me and repeating the same statement and you expect to be engaged?

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Joshthefirst: what patheric nonsense is all this? I am not saying that the world has not advanced technologically. I'm saying that the world is not better. It has never been good since the fall of man. Only an ignorant person would claim that mankind is having it great and enjoying.
How is cutting equipment evidence the world is getting better?
Smh.

Isnt a technologically advanced world better? See how you contradict yourself? Are you not using technology to chat with atheists/xtians on NL?


Worse off, you then strawman as if Mr Troll and I were arguing that man is enjoying all around the world....No......the simple case is that we are better off than our long dead ancestors......humans are making progress

Joshthefirst:
and the amount of people who have died because of this super speed state the world is in has not etched out the advantages of this?
Mass numbers of people die in plane crashes and other related crashes every day and year. A plane was used to launch a terrorist attack on the world trade center. I am not saying that planes are a disadvantage, I'm just saying that man has never been much advantaged since his fall from perfection in the beginning. Science has just been trying to alleviate the problems the fall created, they've tried, but death, disease and pain still abound with us.

Common sense is not common. First use your brain to compare how many people and businesses have been transported accross the globe sucessfully (saving time and money) compared to those who have doed from any super speed deaths from the technology. Wouldnt it be clear that the advantages are so much more than the disadvantages?

BTW......the bible never said that there was perfection in the beginning. Adam and Eve were ignorant and naked according to the bible. So use your brain. If that is a perfect state for you, then you are silly.

Joshthefirst:
nonsense. When we think we are done with one illness, another will surface. When we think we're done with smallpox. Hiv will arise, an epidemic will come out and claim millions at a time. Cancer will tear people from their loved ones. The world has not gotten better much.
150,000 die every hour. Man has resorted to willful killing of his babies, and he still tries to justify it till today. More than 53 million babies have died from murders in the U.S, how have things gotten better? We stretch even our merciless hands into the safe coven of the womb and kill infants for our selfish reasons. Women are still treated as scum in places today.

What nonsense is this? The world works in a way such that bacteria and viruses evolve...so we will always have new diseases....the fact is that man is better equipped to fight any new disease while man has also cured many diseases of old. If this is not progress, you sir are silly.


You do realise that on abortion, people who believe in a God that meddles in human affairs are quite silly because the most common type of abortion is a natural one- a spontaneous abortion. God is the cheif aborter in this case.

Joshthefirst:
this is cheap. The very nature of mankind and his lust for power is still here. Atheistic religion is still found in parts of china. In north korea, people are still killed for professing christ or having bibles in their homes. Christians are treated as the scum of the earth even by the same religionists.

I didnt know that you shared Italo's ignorance on forgetting the difference between communism and atheism.

Joshthefirst:
today, man wathces pornography, the best selling industry in the world. Today, even now, the hearts of young boys and girls are perverted because they are very liberal and not taught good morals since the world rejects morals and gives them freedom. Children are perverted and hopelessly lost in confusion and drugs and sex. Today, you can hook up with someone you want to have sex with on the internet. Today, you can learn to commit suicide on the internet.

Pornography is not the bes selling industry in the world.

In your biblical times, young girls were molested an abused.....nothing to stop underage sex.....child abuse. Your religion is no different from the Arabic pedophiles own.

I prefer a young girl watching pornography than she getting abused or married to an old man.

You mention drugs and se.x as if they didnt exist in your biblical times. As if drunkards and opium didnt exist at their time. You forget that we have rehab centres and we can deal with addiction better than before

Joshthefirst:
how does this change the fact that death and suffering and disease and sin and lawlessness abound much more? Today, in a public forum, anyone who jokes and trolls about the way he m.asturbates and about the way he treates women like thrash is liked and acknowledged. Anyone who insults well and commits sin in the name of enjoyment is the peoples man.

Sin and Lawlessness abound in this present world? When last did you hear of a case of child sacrifice in the developed world? When last did you hear about chattel slavery?

You talk as if you are some holy person...as if I dont see you laughing and praising when some of your christian sisters abuse/troll others. Then you are here complaining that people like and acknowledge trash talkers.

Joshthefirst:
it is only the truly foolish man that will look at the glitter of technological advancement and dare say man is better than his ancestors. And dare say that the fall of man was not a fall at all.

1) Technological advancement means that one is technologically better....use your brain

2) There was never a fall of man. Read your bible. Adam and Eve were naked and ignorant. The fruit gave them knowledge and they saw that they were naked. Adam and Eve did not have televisions or nike shoes......they were cavemen. Sorry that is not perfection

Joshthefirst:
More people have died due to wars in the last 200 years than. The past history of wars in the world combined.

Just as we have learnt to live better, we have also learnt to kill "enemies" better. We also have a lot more population compared to the past in the medieval times...

Joshthefirst:
It is only a fool that will trust in this present world and science as his only hope. Or that will choose to be resigned in his fate and engage sin and exploit himself and others in lawless deeds in the name of enjoyment and not look for a way of salvation. Only a fool will blindly take on science that cannot even save him from death.

lawless deeds indeed....and you are one that has all the lawful deeds. You can not see that you are sounding like a pharisee.....judging others as if you the only one who can see the wrong things in this world....

When you are gossiping on the christian chatbox, are you not doing lawless deeds in the name of enjoyment? Would Jesus have a christian chatbox or would he be constantly be with sinners advicing them on the goodness of a righteous life?

Joshthefirst:
Only Jesus saves. He has promised us a new heaven and a new earth where righteousness and perfection dwells.

But that does not mean we should waste our lives on this one. The deeds you do on this earth will be rewarded when Jesus comes.



smh.

Only Jesus saves.....meaning that Moses wasnt saved and that 4 billion people (millions of which never will know anything about the bible) will burn in hell while you watch from heaven.....Sadism at its peak

Logicboy03: [size=18pt]To Joshthefirst[/size]





Isnt a technologically advanced world better? See how you contradict yourself? Are you not using technology to chat with atheists/xtians on NL?


Worse off, you then strawman as if Mr Troll and I were arguing that man is enjoying all around the world....No......the simple case is that we are better off than our long dead ancestors......humans are making progress





Common sense is not common. First use your brain to compare how many people and businesses have been transported accross the globe sucessfully (saving time and money) compared to those who have doed from any super speed deaths from the technology. Wouldnt it be clear that the advantages are so much more than the disadvantages?

BTW......the bible never said that there was perfection in the beginning. Adam and Eve were ignorant and naked according to the bible. So use your brain. If that is a perfect state for you, then you are silly.





What nonsense is this? The world works in a way such that bacteria and viruses evolve...so we will always have new diseases....the fact is that man is better equipped to fight any new disease while man has also cured many diseases of old. If this is not progress, you sir are silly.


You do realise that on abortion, people who believe in a God that meddles in human affairs are quite silly because the most common type of abortion is a natural one- a spontaneous abortion. God is the cheif aborter in this case.




I didnt know that you shared Italo's ignorance on forgetting the difference between communism and atheism.



Pornography is not the bes selling industry in the world.

In your biblical times, young girls were molested an abused.....nothing to stop underage sex.....child abuse. Your religion is no different from the Arabic pedophiles own.

I prefer a young girl watching pornography than she getting abused or married to an old man.

You mention drugs and se.x as if they didnt exist in your biblical times. As if drunkards and opium didnt exist at their time. You forget that we have rehab centres and we can deal with addiction better than before



Sin and Lawlessness abound in this present world? When last did you hear of a case of child sacrifice in the developed world? When last did you hear about chattel slavery?

You talk as if you are some holy person...as if I dont see you laughing and praising when some of your christian sisters abuse/troll others. Then you are here complaining that people like and acknowledge trash talkers.




1) Technological advancement means that one is technologically better....use your brain

2) There was never a fall of man. Read your bible. Adam and Eve were naked and ignorant. The fruit gave them knowledge and they saw that they were naked. Adam and Eve did not have televisions or nike shoes......they were cavemen. Sorry that is not perfection





Just as we have learnt to live better, we have also learnt to kill "enemies" better. We also have a lot more population compared to the past in the medieval times...





lawless deeds indeed....and you are one that has all the lawful deeds. You can not see that you are sounding like a pharisee.....judging others as if you the only one who can see the wrong things in this world....

When you are gossiping on the christian chatbox, are you not doing lawless deeds in the name of enjoyment? Would Jesus have a christian chatbox or would he be constantly be with sinners advicing them on the goodness of a righteous life?






Only Jesus saves.....meaning that Moses wasnt saved and that 4 billion people (millions of which never will know anything about the bible) will burn in hell while you watch from heaven.....Sadism at its peak

listen mehn.
There are two very basic things that concern man, these basic two give rise to a third. Natural Man sometimes chooses to ignore these things, but they form the very center of his life.
I do not say science and technology is not good, but I say that on the basis of this three things, which are part of the very crux of natural mans life, we are not better off, infact, we are worse off.

Sin and death are the first two, disease is the third.

Humans have delved further into sin and lawlessness and are actively defending their evil deeds. Today men invent new forms of evil. Pornography, abortion, sodomy, debauchery, man is becoming united on common grounds once more, and sin is spreading.

Humans die all the more today. The death rate is at 150,000 an hour. Death is more gruesome and strikes with disease and war. We are more populated? More of us have died in the last few years. We are more tackled to fight disease? Yes, we do our best, but sadly, the case of death and disease rages on even worse than before. Millions have died. Millions die.

We have never been advantaged since the fall of man. Before, there was no sin, or disease, or death.

Understand once more, that everyday, archaeology and science finds proof of our lineage and origins corresponding to what the bible tells us. Everyday prophecies are being fulfilled from the bible before our very eyes. This shows there is an agenda. This shows we living in the times spoken about most since the history of man. We are about to witness the most terrible days man will ever see. Judgement. From God.

Why would you choose to dismiss these things as fairytales when you know they're true?

It is easy to blame God. Some of these disasters are caused by man's activities. You gonna blame God for global warming too, rape or gun violence? Do your research. The earth is deteriorating due to age, wear and tear but man's activities are speeding up the process. God didn't design the earth to last forever. Christians are not surprised because Jesus spoke of these things in the bible about 2,000 years ago. Earthquakes, wars and disasters. Enlighten yourself by reading the bible. The end is near... This is just the beginning.

Joshthefirst: this is a blatant lie

Sin is sin. It is commonly written in our consciousness and woven into the very fabric of creation. Sin unites mankind in wrongdoing.

Let me ask you a question: is rape wrong?






I'm going to bed now, we can continue this tomorrow hopefully.

Sin is not sin bro. The environment you grow and your indoctrination determines what you see as sin. I gave you the example of taosits and you didn't understand.

Here is another example. Millions of people worship what you refer to as gods. That to you is idolatry and a sin. To them, they are just worshipping what they believe and are convinced (the same way ure convinced) to be the sovereign God. Saying sin is sin is plain intellectual dishonesty and you know that.

You asked if ra.pe is wrong, you have once been answered already maybe not on this thread. Ra.pe may and may not be wrong depending on the intentions of the rapis.t.

Joshthefirst: listen mehn.
There are two very basic things that concern man, these basic two give rise to a third. Natural Man sometimes chooses to ignore these things, but they form the very center of his life.
I do not say science and technology is not good, but I say that on the basis of this three things, which are part of the very crux of natural mans life, we are not better off, infact, we are worse off.

Sin and death are the first two, disease is the third.

Humans have delved further into sin and lawlessness and are actively defending their evil deeds. Today men invent new forms of evil. Pornography, abortion, sodomy, debauchery, man is becoming united on common grounds once more, and sin is spreading.

Humans die all the more today. The death rate is at 150,000 an hour. Death is more gruesome and strikes with disease and war. We are more populated? More of us have died in the last few years. We are more tackled to fight disease? Yes, we do our best, but sadly, the case of death and disease rages on even worse than before. Millions have died. Millions die.

We have never been advantaged since the fall of man. Before, there was no sin, or disease, or death.

Understand once more, that everyday, archaeology and science finds proof of our lineage and origins corresponding to what the bible tells us. Everyday prophecies are being fulfilled from the bible before our very eyes. This shows there is an agenda. This shows we living in the times spoken about most since the history of man. We are about to witness the most terrible days man will ever see. Judgement. From God.

Why would you choose to dismiss these things as fairytales when you know they're true?

There was no sin? Didnt Adam and Eve sin according to your bible? Didnt they sin as soon as they had their first temptation?
Didnt the serpent/lucifer sin before them? Do you read your bible upside down?

There was no death? Did God or the bible ever say that Adam and Eve would live forever? Remember that Adam and Eve had to eat......people with eternal lives do not have to eat- hunger wont kill them


There was no disease? Why didnt Adam and Eve eat their own feaces?



Furthermore, God created the disease if he exists.....God created everything- both good and bad. I dunno why you blame man for disease. Were we the ones that created animals? Or have you forgotten that bacteria and viruses are living things?

Number_One: It is easy to blame God. Some of these disasters are caused by man's activities. You gonna blame God for global warming too, rape or gun violence? Do your research. The earth is deteriorating due to age, wear and tear but man's activities are speeding up the process. God didn't design the earth to last forever. Christians are not surprised because Jesus spoke of these things in the bible about 2,000 years ago. Earthquakes, wars and disasters. Enlighten yourself by reading the bible. The end is near... This is just the beginning.

nonsense. Many natural disasters are not caused by man. Earthquakes are a result of plate tectonics.

Natural disasters have been happening since the beginning of time....so, Jesus's prophecy is a quack

rationalmind:

Sin is not sin bro. The environment you grow and your indoctrination determines what you see as sin. I gave you the example of taosits and you didn't understand.

Here is another example. Millions of people worship what you refer to as gods. That to you is idolatry and a sin. To them, they are just worshipping what they believe and are convinced (the same way ure convinced) to be the sovereign God. Saying sin is sin is plain intellectual dishonesty and you know that.

You asked if ra.pe is wrong, you have once been answered already maybe not on this thread. Rape may and may not be wrong depending on the intentions of the rapists.

wow. We may as well end this discussion here sir. But let me ask you a question. What in your opinion, are the good intentions that can justify rape.
Smh.
Smh.

Sin is sin. I know environmental factors have a role to play, but they don't change this basic realization of wrong doing inherent in us all, even as babies, and you cannot deny the fact that there is a moral law written on human conscience. It is what judges and excuses us. It is what God will use to judge us.

rationalmind:

Sin is not sin bro. The environment you grow and your indoctrination determines what you see as sin. I gave you the example of taosits and you didn't understand.

Here is another example. Millions of people worship what you refer to as gods. That to you is idolatry and a sin. To them, they are just worshipping what they believe and are convinced (the same way ure convinced) to be the sovereign God. Saying sin is sin is plain intellectual dishonesty and you know that.


You asked if ra.pe is wrong, you have once been answered already maybe not on this thread. Ra.pe may and may not be wrong depending on the intentions of the rapis.t.

What nonsense are you saying in bold? RAP.E IS ALWAYS WRONG

I'm beginning to believe Josh is an atheist trolling us. His arguments is just so bullshit I don't even know where to start from. And even if you do, he plunges into more bullshit.

I'm wary of those who claim to have everything figured out. The Bible is not a history book, never will be. It is not a science book, never will be.

It's a relevant to my life as a box of coco-pops.

Joshthefirst: wow. We may as well end this discussion here sir. But let me ask you a question. What in your opinion, are the good intentions that can justify rape.
Smh.
Smh.

Sin is sin. I know environmental factors have a role to play, but they don't change this basic realization of wrong doing inherent in us all, even as babies, and you cannot deny the fact that there is a moral law written on human conscience. It is what judges and excuses us. It is what God will use to judge us.

Yet God ordered that female prisoners of war be ravished.

Joshthefirst: wow. We may as well end this discussion here sir. But let me ask you a question. What in your opinion, are the good intentions that can justify rape.
Smh.
Smh.

Sin is sin. I know environmental factors have a role to play, but they don't change this basic realization of wrong doing inherent in us all, even as babies, and you cannot deny the fact that there is a moral law written on human conscience. It is what judges and excuses us. It is what God will use to judge us.

Since you already want to end the discussion, why are you asking me what good intentions can be used to justify ra.pe.

You still keep repeating sin is sin. Even when uve been proven wrong, you stubbornly hold on to your position. Go back and read the examples I gave you on taoists and idolaters. I'm not a parrot, I can't be repeating the same thing over and over again. I can't talk to a wall.

Logicboy03:


There was no sin? Didnt Adam and Eve sin according to your bible? Didnt they sin as soon as they had their first temptation?
Didnt the serpent/lucifer sin before them? Do you read your bible upside down?

there was no sin among humans before adam and eve disobeyed. The world was perfect.

There was no death? Did God or the bible ever say that Adam and Eve would live forever? Remember that Adam and Eve had to eat......people with eternal lives do not have to eat- hunger wont kill them

adam and eve had physical bodies not yet tainted by the curse of sin. The bible says they ate yes, but it also says it was sin that brought about death, physical as well as spiritual.

There was no disease? Why didnt Adam and Eve eat their own feaces?

what nonsense is this? Smh.

Furthermore, God created the disease if he exists.....God created everything- both good and bad. I dunno why you blame man for disease. Were we the ones that created animals? Or have you forgotten that bacteria and viruses are living things?

God didn't create disease, just as he didn't create sin. Disease came about after men sinned, and living things began to exploit each other to survive.


And the bible has its own classification of living things just so you know.

Josh, god created evil. It is in the Bible.

rationalmind:

Since you already want to end the discussion, why are you asking me what good intentions can be used to justify ra.pe.

You still keep repeating sin is sin. Even when uve been proven wrong, you stubbornly hold on to your position. Go back and read the examples I gave you on taoists and idolaters. I'm not a parrot, I can't be repeating the same thing over and over again. I can't talk to a wall.

how have you proven me wrong? You just tried to justify r.ape depending on the intentions of a rap.ist for pete's sake. I ask you for the intentions that can justify rape and you digress.

Just answer my question first before we continue into idolatry and others.

aManFromMars:

Yet God ordered that female prisoners of war be ravished.

when did he do this? You have started again.

aManFromMars: Josh, god created evil. It is in the Bible.

please read that scripture from isaiah in other translations and get the original root words to understand what it says.

God will never cordone evil to any man. God only punishes sin with calamity.

aManFromMars: I'm beginning to believe Josh is an atheist trolling us. His arguments is just so bullshit I don't even know where to start from. And even if you do, he plunges into more bullshit.

I'm wary of those who never claim to have everything figure out. The Bible is not a history book, never will be. It is not a science book, never will be.

It's a relevant to my life as a box of coco-pops.

sir. The bible tells the history of nations and peoples too, as well as the origins of man.
Man did not have a natural origin.

Logicboy03:


What nonsense are you saying in bold? RAP.E IS ALWAYS WRONG

Okay good. Let's look at this example together. Male Northerners marry young ladies. They are simply following what their religion teaches. Now, if the northerner after marrying a young girl sleeps with her even though she consented, you and I will call that rape because the girl is not old enough to make the right decision about sex. But looking at it from the mans perspective, can we really say what he did was wrong? Remb his intention was just to practise what his religion preaches which mohammed(the best man to ever live in his eyes) did. Can he be prosecuted for rap.e?

Joshthefirst:


God didn't create disease, just as he didn't create sin. Disease came about after men sinned, and living things began to exploit each other to survive.


And the bible has its own classification of living things just so you know.

Wow....this guy is funny!!!

The bible is now a science book that has his own classification of living things?

Oh and God didnt create animals abi? God didnt create lving things abi?

So it is man that created life in the form of bacteria, viruses and parasites




GUY, YOU ARE NOT THINKING

rationalmind:

Okay good. Let's look at this example together. Male Northerners marry young ladies. They are simply following what their religion teaches. Now, if the northerner after marrying a young girl sleeps with her even though she consented, you and I will call that rape because the girl is not old enough to make the right decision about sex. But looking at it from the mans perspective, can we really say what he did was wrong? Remb his intention was just to practise what his religion preaches which mohammed(the best man to ever live in his eyes) did. Can he be prosecuted for rap.e?

WHAT HE DID REMAINS WRONG. IS HE A MALU (COW) THAT CAN NOT REASON THAT A GIRL AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE IS NOT SE.XUALLY MATURE?


IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY, HE WOULD BE ARRESTED FOR MOLESTATION....RELIGION IS NO EXCUSE FOR STOOPIDITY (EVEN THOUGH RELIGIOUS PEOPLE SEE IT AS SUCH)

Joshthefirst: when did he do this? You have started again.

please read that scripture from isaiah in other translations and get the original root words to understand what it says.

God will never cordone evil to any man. God only punishes sin with calamity.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things

Zechariah 14:2
I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.

Logicboy03:

Wow....this guy is funny!!!

It's not funny anymore. This guy is a chronic liar and even worse twister of the Bible than the other apologetics we've had here. God damn.

Watch what he does with those verses I posted.

aManFromMars:
It's not funny anymore. This guy is a chronic liar and even worse twister of the Bible than the other apologetics we've had here. God damn.

The guy is trolling......no other explanation.....


The verse you put up there clearly states that God created evil.

rationalmind:

Okay good. Let's look at this example together. Male Northerners marry young ladies. They are simply following what their religion teaches. Now, if the northerner after marrying a young girl sleeps with her even though she consented, you and I will call that rape because the girl is not old enough to make the right decision about sex. But looking at it from the mans perspective, can we really say what he did was wrong? Remb his intention was just to practise what his religion preaches which mohammed(the best man to ever live in his eyes) did. Can he be prosecuted for rap.e?

wow. So if I steal from a bank with the perspective of giving to the poor, I am not doing wrong? So if I murder a man because I'm jealous, I'm not doing wrong?
Smh.

The law is broken irrespective of whatever perspective a person has.
Rape is wrong. Irrespective of whatever intentions a person has, even inside him, his conscience tells him it is wrong to force anyone to have sexual intercourse.

Logicboy03:



Wow....this guy is funny!!!

The bible is now a science book that has his own classification of living things?

Oh and God didnt create animals abi? God didnt create lving things abi?

So it is man that created life in the form of bacteria, viruses and parasites




GUY, YOU ARE NOT THINKING

God created life. But he created it perfect, before man sinned, and life became imperfect and living things had to exploit other living things to survive.