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Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by kbdrim(m): 3:42am On Nov 27, 2013 |
duni04: You are also forgeting that this is the first time someone from a minority tribe is ruling Nigeria. You are also overestimating the intellectual capacity of GEJ. I dont think he commands the same respect OBJ had in 2003. remember that in 2011, none of these northern Governors(north east and north west) delivered their states to PDP. It is only worse right now especially in the north. There is no guarantee that even if GEJ accedes to their demands, he wont change his mind after 2015 and start hounding them into jail (GOV sylva comes to mind). The OBJ scenario also differs in 2003 because all the Governors were also looking for a 2nd term in Office. All the current G7 governors except kwara are in their second terms and therefore have nothing to loose. Money doesnt always sort it out as can be seen in 2007 Third term problem. This was also because most of the Governors were also serving their second terms in office and so still went ahead to mess the third term up. Lamido and Babangida Aliyu backtracking might actually be because they feels they stand a better chance of actualizing their ambitions in PDP instead of the APC. You can trust the average northerner...They would not be cowed by the use of force especially by a president from a minority tribe. There has never being a time when a sitting President has been this challenged and it hasnt gone unnoticed. |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Wsdm: 4:07am On Nov 27, 2013 |
Sunny_bobo:Did you know that the present Bauchi state governor was elected under ANPP in 2007 and he decamped to his inlaw's( late Umar Musa Yar'adua) party there after and nothing happened? |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by duni04(m): 4:36am On Nov 27, 2013 |
kbdrim:Seriously I think the only people being deceived here are the APC heirachy and uninformed Nigerians. Haven't u found it rather odd that the 2 governors that were at the forefront of the whole npdp saga, babangida aliyu and Sule lamido have chosen to remain in d PDP? This whole merger thing is a charade. Babangida aliyu and Lamido are using the other nPDP governors to buy leverage from Jonathan. When Jonathan finally accedes to their requests, don't b shocked wen Lamido and Aliyu start telling u it was a family disagreement that has been sorted out and pull the others back to the PDP. Its very cynical to think that aliyu and Lamido are staying behind in d PDP cos they stand a better chance there. Who will support them in d primaries? PDP delegates from Bayelsa or Akwa Ibom? The idea of having belgore, abdulfatha ahmed and saraki under the same roof in Kwara or Aregbesola oyinlola and omisore under the same roof in Osun is just laughable and impractical. Same goes for the other nPDP and APC merger states. Its a leverage thing. The joke is on d APC. Sadly wen d reconciliation thing goes down and the nPDP governors return, it'll b too late for the APC to mount any opposition in 2015. The only losers here will b the APC and Amaechi whose problem with Jonathan is more personal than political. In 2007 wen obasanjo was persecuting Atiku, Atiku tried to use the victim card to coerce the northern PDP into dumping OBj. OBJ simply chased Atiku out of the party to the ACN, swept the party structure off his feet and got influential northerners to lure aggrieved Atiku loyalists back into the PDP. 1 Like |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Gbawe: 5:10am On Nov 27, 2013 |
ndu_chucks: They are not lazy. They simply lack political sophistication . They do not even have an iota of it. You will find that these guys , despite being conventionally educated, will always lack political sophistication because their clannish nature and ethno-religious prejudice against others will perpetually prevent them from appreciating what politics, a game of numbers and alliances plus strategic planning, is all about. We are seeing politics playing out before ours yet some naff and politically gauche 'throwbacks' prefer going around shouting "boko/Yoruba" Party, "Yorobu and aboki gang-up" and other such illiterate and prejudiced drivel. I really pity some people and how their mental 'stumbling blocks' (divisiveness, prejudice, ethno-religious jingoism, paranoia, persecution complex et al) will always prevent them from seeing what matters . 12 Likes |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by aljharem(m): 5:17am On Nov 27, 2013 |
from rubbish to garbage. SMH |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by GeneralJ(m): 5:30am On Nov 27, 2013 |
alj harem: from rubbish to garbage. SMHjust like from sperm to vagina, abi, is that unrelated? |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by aljharem(m): 5:32am On Nov 27, 2013 |
GeneralJ: lol |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by 1030(m): 5:45am On Nov 27, 2013 |
This is interesting |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by oshyno(m): 5:46am On Nov 27, 2013 |
payless: Jonathan is about to be consumed by his lack of political width and charisma. He is being led by sycophants who don't really mean well for him except for their pockets. I expect Tambuwal and other Northern legislators to declare for APC by February. This should confirm why I said many times that PDP is a Northern party that is supported by some southern slaves mostly based in South-east and South-south. The Nigerian Constitution favours the North more than any other region because, the North dominates the National Assembly; in terms of number. There are more than 68% of PDP legislators in the House of Representatives and Senate. I expect these Northern PDP legislators to desert PDP and move to APC. Jonathan will be left with Akpabio, Orji, Obi, Mimiko, Elechi, Chime and the governor of Cross-River State, Bamanga Tukur, Anenih, Okupe, Gulak, Abati and few others......... The way u rant on every thread that has to do with nPDP merger with APC one wud think u would get a national honour for it. Guy take a chill pill. I know hw u loads won Anambra election here only to come back crying like a child when 'HE" lost. Nawaooo 7 Likes |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by omenka(m): 5:52am On Nov 27, 2013 |
Jo's @ss must be smelling like french fries to him right now. Keen observers then advised him to thread softly with the Amaechi's issue but he wouldnt listen, choosing rather to tow the path of his absolutely politicaly naiive wife, now look at him. Make dem begin dey tidy the impeachment mata sharp sharp mbok. We must end this era of kakistomuboplutocracy as soon as posible! |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by dayokanu(m): 6:00am On Nov 27, 2013 |
Retardeen is toast |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Xfactoria: 6:28am On Nov 27, 2013 |
All I see here is a string of legal battles. This defection presents the best chance to test our laws to the fullest extent as regards party defection. Meanwhile, Amaechi must have a short memory. He has forgotten how he became Governor when the Supreme Court held that the election was won by the PDP and that Amaechi should have been its authentic candidate although I understand that the Supreme Court mentioned in the judgment that the case should not be cited as a reference in future proceedings albeit that in itself constitute a fraud. We need the Supreme Court to clear the air this time. The elections that brought these guys into office were won by the PDP so it should be easy to make some argument for declaring their seats vacant. By the time the legal battle starts, even the defectors will get tired and so distracted that they won't have the time and resources to fully prepare for 2015 elections if what happened to Atiku in 2007 would serve as a lesson. I siddon dey look! |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by kbdrim(m): 6:40am On Nov 27, 2013 |
duni04:We all have our bias and its obvious from my write ups...whether they are sincere or not is what we really cant say to a definate conclusion. You sound so sure of your own assumptions but i think you should leave room for what ifs....The analogy you give for atiku in 2007 is different because Yaradua was a a northerner and so it was easier for the north to vote one of theirs. Besides the masterstroke from OBJ was the YARADUA family made Atiku politically so it was always going to be difficult to fight Yaradua as he was perceived as nice and a gentleman. If you lived and understand the mind of the average northerner then you should be scared for the PDP if you are a sympathizer. 2011 was a typical example..PDP did not win in any north west or North eastern state in the presidential elections.These nPDP governors have nothing to benefit this time around from the PDP since there are in their 2nd terms. Does it make any logical sense for Kwankwaso, Wammako and others to announce a merger and then come back because they have sorted their differences? It doesnt make any logical sense...Lamido and Babangida are only bidding their time..they might still remain in PDP but they would most likely join their colleagues in APC if you understand the mind of an average northerner |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by alaoeri: 6:46am On Nov 27, 2013 |
duni04:GEJ is too clueless for what u stated beside its too late, he took the Northerners for a ride now they are in for it, we keep saying this GEJ is surrounded by bunch of sycophants & praise singers (bad advisers). Believe me Aboki 'll always be Aboki the little ppl that still support him from the North 'll soon switch allegiance. In Nigerian politics don't fvck with the North because they control it that's the reality. |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Boss13: 6:53am On Nov 27, 2013 |
I was thinking the APC intends to distinguish itself from the PDP - that thought is gone. There is nothing new about this guys, just a change of clothes. I bet we would not have a free and fair election by 2015. Even 2014 will be a tough year. 2 Likes |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Nobody: 6:55am On Nov 27, 2013 |
alaoeri: Exactly. The Nigerian Constituion vested most of the power in Hausa hands. The Hausas own PDP. Those few Hausas who are supporting Jonathan at the moment will surely switch allegiance when the Emirs and Sultan start calling them. The Hausas feel threaten in the military the cherish so much with Ikhejira sending them to die in mass in Maiduguri. Hausas are being kicked out of the military and many government offices. They are going to strike back soon. The Hausas are sophisticated when it comes to alliances and political games. Jonathan and other Jonathanians are children of politics. I expect them to see clearly by March 2014. |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by dayokanu(m): 6:57am On Nov 27, 2013 |
X-factoria: Yuguda governor of Bauchi won governorship under ANPP and later decamped to the PDP and nothing happened Tinubu won election under AD later he moved to AC yet nothing happened |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Xfactoria: 6:58am On Nov 27, 2013 |
alaoeri: You must have some illusion about the geographical area and the people of the North. If you are thinking the north is Kano and Sokoto or Hausa/Fulani you have a lot to learn. Let me remind you that what you refer to as the North comprise of Taraba, Gombe, Benue, Plateau, Kaduna, Kogi, Kwara, Niger and Adamawa all of which have sizable population of Christians and minority tribes who don't give a damn about the call for a return of power to the north because it won't serve their interests. It has never been in their interest and they are no fools! Jonathan will only be a fool by not exploiting this obvious divide in the north. A strategists would tell him the home truth - to forget about Kano and Sokoto. He can never win there! If I were him, I will start right now to pump money and empower people in these aforementioned "swing" states, give them juicy political appointments and court their leaders - both political and traditional. He has all the oil money to buy anybody. Goodluck to him sha. 8 Likes |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Xfactoria: 7:00am On Nov 27, 2013 |
dayokanu: Because no one has ever cared to press charges! Or do you know of any case of such nature that has ever gone to court apart from Atiku vs OBJ and PDP which was a different kettle of fish? All that will change now. |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by dayokanu(m): 7:04am On Nov 27, 2013 |
^^ You really dont know much about these north, We love to deceive ourselves about the divide in the North The truth is most of the political power belong to the Moslems in the North Kaduana, Nasarawa, Gombe Adamawa (Boni Haruna a xtian only became governor because the elected governor Atiku moved onto higher tings Go to Kaduna where Ishaya Balat thought he would succeed Makarfi and see how he was rigged out till date in these states you mentioned they havent had a Xtian governor |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Xfactoria: 7:10am On Nov 27, 2013 |
dayokanu: ^^ You really dont know much about these north, We love to deceive ourselves about the divide in the North We are not talking of governorship elections in states like Kaduna where the Hausa/Fulani have the majority. We are talking about the presidential elections where its correlation with state elections voting patterns is weak. There is a divide in the north and you need to go get goggles if you can't see it. Taraba, Benue and the Plateau would never prefer Buhari to Jonathan for example, never! |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Demdem(m): 7:21am On Nov 27, 2013 |
payless: Jonathan is about to be consumed by his lack of political width and charisma. He is being led by sycophants who don't really mean well for him except for their pockets. I expect Tambuwal and other Northern legislators to declare for APC by February. This should confirm why I said many times that PDP is a Northern party that is supported by some southern slaves mostly based in South-east and South-south. The Nigerian Constitution favours the North more than any other region because, the North dominates the National Assembly; in terms of number. There are more than 68% of PDP legislators in the House of Representatives and Senate. I expect these Northern PDP legislators to desert PDP and move to APC. Jonathan will be left with Akpabio, Orji, Obi, Mimiko, Elechi, Chime and the governor of Cross-River State, Bamanga Tukur, Anenih, Okupe, Gulak, Abati and few others......... Good analysis. The colored especially is the bitter truth. |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Sunnybobo3(m): 7:22am On Nov 27, 2013 |
donphilopus: Was that how you declared Sen. Borofice's seat vacant, when he defected from LP to the then ACN??That'a Labour party's headache. 1 Like |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by ignis: 7:23am On Nov 27, 2013 |
PDP - the so called rulling party- is gradually loosing dominance. |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Sunnybobo3(m): 7:24am On Nov 27, 2013 |
ndu_chucks: The PDP was not factionalized as the nPDP was declared an illegal group by a court of competent jurisdiction. |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by adonisvg(m): 7:26am On Nov 27, 2013 |
payless:Inasmuchas i welcome this idea of a stronger opposition, i still have some reservations....are these not the former pdp membersthat we condemned for their reckless looting and misappropriation of funds. Does decamping turn them a new leave? Or does the APC have a better ideology that is practicable...the 7 governors have not done wonderfully well in their states. |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Sunnybobo3(m): 7:28am On Nov 27, 2013 |
payless: Jonathan is about to be consumed by his lack of political width and charisma. He is being led by sycophants who don't really mean well for him except for their pockets. I expect Tambuwal and other Northern legislators to declare for APC by February. This should confirm why I said many times that PDP is a Northern party that is supported by some southern slaves mostly based in South-east and South-south. The Nigerian Constitution favours the North more than any other region because, the North dominates the National Assembly; in terms of number. There are more than 68% of PDP legislators in the House of Representatives and Senate. I expect these Northern PDP legislators to desert PDP and move to APC. Jonathan will be left with Akpabio, Orji, Obi, Mimiko, Elechi, Chime and the governor of Cross-River State, Bamanga Tukur, Anenih, Okupe, Gulak, Abati and few others......... Which North are you talking about? Does that include Benue, Plateau, Kogi, Taraba, Nassarawa, Kwara? I laugh in Izon 1 Like |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by adonisvg(m): 7:29am On Nov 27, 2013 |
Wsdm:the law states that sitting governors can decamp, bt its not the case for senators and house of rep members... 1 Like |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by taharqa: 7:32am On Nov 27, 2013 |
ndu_chucks:And who told you there is legally any 'Division' or 'faction' in d PDP? Abi, you nova hear of d Court's pronouncement on that mata... Stay there and watch real politics play out in d days and weeks to come.. |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by experimentist: 7:34am On Nov 27, 2013 |
The clueless semi-automatic retardeen has unleash the dragons.. APC 2015! |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by Nobody: 7:36am On Nov 27, 2013 |
payless: Jonathan is about to be consumed by his lack of political width and charisma. He is being led by sycophants who don't really mean well for him except for their pockets. I expect Tambuwal and other Northern legislators to declare for APC by February. This should confirm why I said many times that PDP is a Northern party that is supported by some southern slaves mostly based in South-east and South-south. The Nigerian Constitution favours the North more than any other region because, the North dominates the National Assembly; in terms of number. There are more than 68% of PDP legislators in the House of Representatives and Senate. I expect these Northern PDP legislators to desert PDP and move to APC. Jonathan will be left with Akpabio, Orji, Obi, Mimiko, Elechi, Chime and the governor of Cross-River State, Bamanga Tukur, Anenih, Okupe, Gulak, Abati and few others.........Well said brother! 2015 will be a very tough one. You have given the best analysis so far. |
Re: 49 House Members Decamp To APC by taharqa: 7:37am On Nov 27, 2013 |
payless:You ALWAYS talk like a 3 year old Kid, who is not only learning how to talk but also learning how to form Words/Meanings in him/her little, immature mind. Why?? |
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