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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 8:47am On Jul 14, 2014
lynpetra:

The role of a father remains different from a mother.[b]Naturally,kids knows that daddy is the one that works to put food on the table.[/b]That is why a situation where a woman is the bread winner is seen as totally abnormal and far away from the norms.No matter what,a hardworking father will definitely have little time for his kids excerpt he is jobless.He spends little time and thus dependent on the wife to give more info concerning any problems he is not aware of.A situation where the wife is also ambitious like him will definitely place him in situation where he might not get vital info about his children's welfare and challenges.The role of the African woman/mother should never be sacrificed at the alter of ambition.There should be a reasonable limit to achieving her ambitions especially when it clearly affects her family. I know women wants to play vital roles in the society, heck this is the 21st,but a woman who succeeds as career woman and yet her family is in shambles is still considered a failure!

Explain the bold. What is natural about it?

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 8:52am On Jul 14, 2014
carefreewannabe:

Explain the bold. What is natural about it?


I should start explaining the roles of a man in our Biblical,social and traditional societies
Maybe you should ask me what is natural about a woman giving birth and a man running around,or even borrowing to pay the medical bills.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by remsonik(f): 8:58am On Jul 14, 2014
I would ve a hard time settling with such a man cos I and my siblings are raised to be very ambitious and there were no barriers or limitations cos I am a girl. My dad was doing his private business while my mum was in the civil service. My mom rose to the top and she retired and my dad kept pushing her to achieve more,get a doctorate degree and rise to the pinnacle of her career.
If the man is insecured that's when he starts feeling his wife is over ambitious. A woman doesn't need to abandon or limit her dreams cos of a man. If she indeed is lazy even limiting her dreams won't make the home any better.
We didn't ve maids while growing up but my mom was a homemaker and my dad assisted her too.
My parents have been married for close to 40 years.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:02am On Jul 14, 2014
lynpetra:


I should start explaining the roles of a man in our Biblical,social and traditional societies
Maybe you should ask me what is natural about a woman giving birth and a man running around,or even borrowing to pay the medical bills.

Do you think everyone is a Christian?

Do you think tradition and religion are the same as nature?

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:03am On Jul 14, 2014
remsonik: I would ve a hard time settling with such a man cos I and my siblings are raised to be very ambitious and there were no barriers or limitations cos I am a girl. My dad was doing his private business while my mum was in the civil service. My mom rose to the top and she retired and my dad kept pushing her to achieve more,get a doctorate degree and rise to the pinnacle of her career.
If the man is insecured that's when he starts feeling his wife is over ambitious. A woman doesn't need to abandon or limit her dreams cos of a man. If she indeed is lazy even limiting her dreams won't make the home any better.
We didn't ve maids while growing up but my mom was a homemaker and my dad assisted her too.
My parents have been married for close to 40 years.
cool

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Harmvirus(f): 9:06am On Jul 14, 2014
sholasholala: Your friend's point makes sense.
Personally, I have dreams and whenever I think of my plans for myself (career wise), I try to fit my husband and kids in and I finally realized that I can't fully engage in what I want to do if I want to always be there for my kids.
I know that I have to compromise at some point for the sake of my family (especially my kids). But that doesn't mean I will totally abandon my dream and become a full time house wife. No. My career will take a slow pace till my kids grow to a certain age.

Well said

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by danot1030: 9:06am On Jul 14, 2014
Women are creaed to support and help a man fulfil his destiny.
Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:09am On Jul 14, 2014
carefreewannabe:

Do you think everyone is a Christian?

Do you think tradition and religion are the same as nature?


It goes beyond being a Christian or Muslim my dear.As a woman can you lift a sack if rice,i am not saying women don't do that but then,there is some firm of biological alteration afterwards.A woman cannot be like a man,even if it's acceptable,some disadvantages might not go unnoticed.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:12am On Jul 14, 2014
lynpetra:


It goes beyond being a Christian or Muslim my dear.As a woman can you lift a sack if rice,i am not saying women don't do that but then,there is some firm of biological alteration afterwards.A woman cannot be like a man,even if it's acceptable,some disadvantages might not go unnoticed.

Stop diverting the attention from the question by talking about sacks of rice.

What is natural about kids knowing the father is putting the food on the table? Answer my question.

Then we will continue with what you call "abnormal".

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:14am On Jul 14, 2014
remsonik: I would ve a hard time settling with such a man cos I and my siblings are raised to be very ambitious and there were no barriers or limitations cos I am a girl. My dad was doing his private business while my mum was in the civil service. My mom rose to the top and she retired and my dad kept pushing her to achieve more,get a doctorate degree and rise to the pinnacle of her career.
If the man is insecured that's when he starts feeling his wife is over ambitious. A woman doesn't need to abandon or limit her dreams cos of a man. If she indeed is lazy even limiting her dreams won't make the home any better.
We didn't ve maids while growing up but my mom was a homemaker and my dad assisted her too.
My parents have been married for close to 40 years.




Your mom was in a govt established firm where her job roles weren't too demanding.And your dad is a private business man.Thats is a balanced home.In a situation where both have a 8-6 kind of job in a city like Lagos,it will really be difficult.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:27am On Jul 14, 2014
carefreewannabe:

Stop diverting the attention from the question by talking about sacks of rice.

What is natural about kids knowing the father is putting the food on the table? Answer my question.

Then we will continue with what you call "abnormal".

You are the one swaying my points to prove your unhealthy feminism here.I can't be swayed to answer questions to promote some twisted minds about how feminism must look like.A situation where a woman is left to cater for her children by choice while the husband sits and do nothing should be termed as whatBravery or stupidity?A man's role is to go out and work,to take care of his home.A woman might take up challenging roles,no doubt,but she has more grounds to do that if she isn't married.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:27am On Jul 14, 2014
carefreewannabe:

Stop diverting the attention from the question by talking about sacks of rice.

What is natural about kids knowing the father is putting the food on the table? Answer my question.

Then we will continue with what you call "abnormal".

You are the one swaying my points to prove your unhealthy feminism here.I can't be swayed to answer questions to promote some twisted minds about how feminism must look like.A situation where a woman is left to cater for her children by choice while the husband sits and do nothing should be termed as whatBravery or stupidity?A man's role is to go out and work,to take care of his home.A woman might take up challenging roles,no doubt,but she has more grounds to do that if she isn't married with kids.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by BizBloke(m): 9:27am On Jul 14, 2014
Matthewbriggs: I had a chat ... With a friend and he was like he would not go for a woman as ambitious as him.

Just like me he has very crazy ambitions ... We are both committed to seeing our daring dreams come to pass.

He reason is that he wouldn't like a situation where him and his spouse are so preoccupied with their DARING goals at the detriment of the family.

Eg. He goes on a business trip to go seal a deal and his wife jets off to Paris to go launch her new line ... With both of then never having time for the kids or each other due to their demanding careers as they try to build their dreams.

He says he is not expecting her to be a house wife but more like she would have a lesser demanding career or job than his.

He was like their is need for balance. With one of the couple having a lesser dream or demanding career.

I am like if you have someone as ambitious as you ... You both stand the chance of sharpening each other and assisting each other achieve their dreams, I was like it would be very wrong of you to inhibit your spouses goals because you want her to have time for the family.

He was like he would not be inhibiting her ambition if she doesn't have a big ambition in the first place.

So now one of his criteria is a woman with little or no ambition but she would be very smart and intelligent and working class.

I am like you can't be smart without having an ambition. He was like her ambition would not be too big or demanding of her time.

As for me I am turned on by women with really bold ambitions. The only clause is do not forget I exist as you go on to pursue that dream.

What's your take people. Is it ideal to go for someone with a lower ambition than you. Male or female

#MathewBriggs

Is it ideal? Really, it's a subjective thing. From my perspective, going for one with lower ambitions is somewhat.

If it boils down to raising children, there's family planning and giving birth could be set for an appropriate time, say, 2-3 years after marriage, hence giving both parties ample time to get to a stage in their careers when they can multi-task effectively.

Then again, it depends on the angle of ambition: is my spouse's ambition hinged on a corporate career structure or entrepreneurial career structure (h/she is the founder)? If both spouses ambitions are hinged on different career structures, a balance can be struck quite easily.

What else? Making time for each other; this should be sorted out internally.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:31am On Jul 14, 2014
my advice.. stick with someone who is more ambitious than yourself. in this country known as NIGERIA. you will need all the help you can get

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:32am On Jul 14, 2014
lynpetra:

You are the one swaying my points to prove your unhealthy feminism here.I can't be swayed to answer questions to promote some twisted minds about how feminism must look like.A situation where a woman is left to cater for her children by choice while the husband sits and do nothing should be termed as whatBravery or stupidity?A man's role is to go out and work,to take care of his home.A woman might take up challenging roles,no doubt,but she has more grounds to do that if she isn't married with kids.

Leave feminism out of it.

I am not "swaying" your points but asking you to EXPLAIN them, which you are running from.

If you cannot explain the "natural" part, explain what is "abnormal" about a female breaadwinner.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by BizBloke(m): 9:32am On Jul 14, 2014
spicykev: one man's food is indeed another man's poison. what if he marries her and along the line God opens her eyes and she becomes more ambitious than him, hope he won't send her packing, lol.so he should continue praying that God don't allow my future partner to be more ambitious than me..........and that is what I call wall of limitation. I.am a career woman and hope 2 settle with some1 that loves and appreciate career women, I love a man with mind blowing ambitions too, a man should be ahead .

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by CocoLoca(f): 9:34am On Jul 14, 2014
In my honest opinion......
Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by CocoLoca(f): 9:34am On Jul 14, 2014
THIS ENTIRE PIECE IS JUST A SHALLOW ATTEMPT AT SELF-ADVERTISING AND PROMOTION OF PHANTOM QUALITIES WRITER THINKS HE POSSESSES.

Good job op.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Acidosis(m): 9:36am On Jul 14, 2014
elected: Women sound really confident when they are young and weak when they are getting older. It would be better to preach what you truly believe from your heart and of course, do like you saw your mother succeed in her marriage than trying to follow media and fake social life.doing this to yourself, will end up driving a lot of good prospective life time husband. Do yourselves good and be real some times. Why Hmmm, don't be deceived! A lot say something here and do something else in their privacy. Lol. Ladies are tender and I respect that.
true

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:37am On Jul 14, 2014
carefreewannabe:

Leave feminism out of it.

I am not "swaying" your points but asking you to EXPLAIN them, which you are running from.

If you cannot explain the "natural" part, explain what is "abnormal" about a female breaadwinner.


I choose the word abnormal in cases where where there is a father in the house doing nothing!

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by damiso(f): 9:38am On Jul 14, 2014
BizBloke:
Is it ideal? Really, it's a subjective thing. From my perspective, going for one with lower ambitions is somewhat.
If it boils down to raising children, there's family planning and giving birth could be set for an appropriate time, say, 2-3 years after marriage, hence giving both parties ample time to get to a stage in their careers when they can multi-task effectively.
Then again, it depends on the angle of ambition: is my spouse's ambition hinged on a corporate career structure or entrepreneurial career structure (h/she is the founder)? If both spouses ambitions are hinged on different career structures, a balance can be struck quite easily.
What else? Making time for each other; this should be sorted out internally.

Great points. Demanding careeer/ambitions are subjective. An entrepreneur might have a demanding career but might have the flexibility of time to spend with the family as opposed to a 9 to 5 person. A GP in a GP surgery is also a doctor but probably has more time than a Consultant in a large hospital.Like some one else said definitely not black and white.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:40am On Jul 14, 2014
I am not advocating against Married women with kids not to be overly ambitious.All I am saying is this;if she must succeed as a career woman,she must also succeed as a family woman.Else,SHE STILL STANDS A FAILURE.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:41am On Jul 14, 2014
lynpetra:

I choose the word abnormal in cases where where there is a father in the house doing nothing!

This sounds very different from "that is why a situation where a woman is the bread winner is seen as totally abnormal".

Good I asked for clarification.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by singlefade25(f): 9:47am On Jul 14, 2014
remsonik: I would ve a hard time settling with such a man cos I and my siblings are raised to be very ambitious and there were no barriers or limitations cos I am a girl. My dad was doing his private business while my mum was in the civil service. My mom rose to the top and she retired and my dad kept pushing her to achieve more,get a doctorate degree and rise to the pinnacle of her career.
If the man is insecured that's when he starts feeling his wife is over ambitious. A woman doesn't need to abandon or limit her dreams cos of a man. If she indeed is lazy even limiting her dreams won't make the home any better.
We didn't ve maids while growing up but my mom was a homemaker and my dad assisted her too.
My parents have been married for close to 40 years.
God bless you. I ve an aunt who was a top executive bt she is retired now and her husband is a lecturer. They worked out things for themselves. They r living very big now. An insecure man believes his wife is too ambitious. In Nigeria today, both parents have to work hard for their children to ball hard. I ve seen businesswomen who don't ve time for their home and children.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:47am On Jul 14, 2014
carefreewannabe:

This sounds very different from "that is why a situation where a woman is the bread winner is seen as totally abnormal".

Good I asked for clarification.

My bad...
Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:51am On Jul 14, 2014
lynpetra:

My bad...

Indeed
Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:54am On Jul 14, 2014
kaboninc: 50 trillion likes!!! My kind of woman. Success has a unique definition for everybody. Find yours and don't copy others.
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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 9:57am On Jul 14, 2014
singlefade25: God bless you. I ve an aunt who was a top executive bt she is retired now and her husband is a lecturer. They worked out things for themselves. They r living very big now. An insecure man believes his wife is too ambitious. In Nigeria today, both parents have to work hard for their children to ball hard. I ve seen businesswomen who don't ve time for their home and children.



Men who feels insecure about a woman's ambitions especially when such DO NOT affect her domestic roles are egoists.They feel shamed.The value of womanhood is when a woman succeeds both as a career woman and a family woman.It brings out the desperation in an egoistic man.

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by onlyme07(m): 10:06am On Jul 14, 2014
Hun..??

Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 10:07am On Jul 14, 2014
lynpetra: I am not advocating against Married women with kids not to be overly ambitious.All I am saying is this;if she must succeed as a career woman,she must also succeed as a family woman.Else,SHE STILL STANDS A FAILURE.

And the man does not have to succeed as a family man, right?

And a woman who decides not to marry and have children is a failure, right?

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Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 10:08am On Jul 14, 2014
voltron: my advice.. stick with someone who is more ambitious than yourself. in this country known as NIGERIA. you will need all the help you can get
Re: Is It Ideal To Go For Someone With A Lesser demanding career than You by Nobody: 10:10am On Jul 14, 2014
No one can have it all, there has to be some components of sacrifice if the family system has to work. Most people are envious of the achievements of some women but they are totally oblivious to some of the sacrifices those people made in terms of their families.
An ambitious Nigerian woman has to work two times more than a man to achieve the same level of success. Think about the time, effort and energy she would invest. How much is going to be left to manage the family. I have friends and bosses who are successful but sorry to say the really wealthy ones are not married.

The married ones have a limit to how much they can achieve

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