I agree with you. What about irresponsible mothers, how should we treat them? There are many of them out there. It seems parenting is actually not meant for everyone.

I am to my children what my father and mum was and is still to their 4 children . They gave the best moral education and the best education to us all abroad and we are all very successful in our different endeavors. Hopefully , our children will impart it into their children when that time comes for them . Proud of Dad and Mom. Hopefully , all young fathers will do good by their children.

SirShymex:

Yes, he looks like one and I believe most of the other men were most likely raised by their mums and they're just speaking based on whatever their mums indoctrinated them with. I know how the mentality is. Honestly, I know men aren't perfect - however I'm tired of people blaming men for every darn thing wrong with the family and almost everything wrong on this planet. When are we going to start blaming women for the roles they played as well? Aren't women just as guilty as men?

Anyway, my thought process is about equality for all genders in all facets of life. Not just where it favours women only. And like I said earlier, I don't have problems with women. I absolutely love and adore cultured women. But I do have problems with scandalous women - I can't stand them.

Like i said, No wonder you have issues with women.

As for blaming women, since you are not in nigeria to know this happens, create time to come down here and see how women are blamed for everything.

oya where are d irresponsible fadas, show urself nd recieve ur deliverance

pickabeau1:
Now you see it is not as one dimensional as your post made it
Some have even started condemning naija politicians as examples of irresponsible dads which i feel has no bearing to the topic
Some are condemning all males even unmarried ones, others are condemning men with more than one wife..

You should have defined your parameters and boundaries.

I v put this thread in a simple way which touches what irresponsible fathers do in the family in Nigeria.
It touches both monogamous & polygamous homes. It doesn't condemn polygamy as some people are thinking.
Last Bullet
I don't need to write it boldly that this is not against polygamy.

.

OkikiOluwa1:
I v put this thread in a simple way which touches what irresponsible fathers do in the family in Nigeria.
It touches both monogamous & polygamous homes. It doesn't condemn polygamy as some people are thinking.
Last Bullet
I don't need to write it boldly that this is not against polygamy.

Your write up was heartfelt n ok.. its the fact that its open to all forms of interpretations that's the issue

Sophyrocks:
Like i said, No wonder you have issues with women.

As for blaming women, since you are not in nigeria to know this happens, create time to come down here and see how women are blamed for everything.

Isn't that the same Nigeria where 3 out of 10 Nigerian men aren't the biological fathers of their children, Sophy Roc-a-fella?

Let's talk about the irresponsible mothers/women in that country.

SirShymex:

Isn't that the same Nigeria where 3 out of 10 Nigerian men aren't biological fathers of their children, Sophy Roc-a-fella?

So simply because of that statistic, all women should be blamed for everything?

SirShymex:

Isn't that the same Nigeria where 3 out of 10 Nigerian men aren't the biological fathers of their children, Sophy Roc-a-fella?

Let's talk about the irresponsible mothers/women in that country.

3 out of 10 men is a good average

It could be worse

Sophyrocks:

So simply because of that statistic, all women should be blamed for everything?

So because of the few deadbeat dads in Nigeria, all Nigerian men should be blamed for everything?

carefreewannabe:

3 out of 10 men is a good average

It could be worse

Lmao!

Yet they still want to blame the men for being deadbeats - the life and times of promiscuous women.

SirShymex:

Isn't that the same Nigeria where 3 out of 10 Nigerian men aren't the biological fathers of their children, Sophy Roc-a-fella?

Let's talk about the irresponsible mothers/women in that country.

This thread is about irresponsible fathers. CREATE ANOTHER THREAD FOR IT. this thread isnt meant for you? Remember?

Sophyrocks:

This thread is about irresponsible fathers. CREATE ANOTHER THREAD FOR IT. this thread isnt meant for you? Remember?

It's for me now. I just found my ammo and I'm loading my gun.

You asked for the shooting match!

SirShymex:

Lmao!

Yet they still want to blame the men for being deadbeats - the life and times of promiscuous women.

I think, everyone knows that there are also irresponsible mothers.

Don't take it personally.

SirShymex:

So because of the few deadbeat dads in Nigeria, all Nigerian men should be blamed for everything?

And who is blaming the whole nigerian men for it? we are blaming irresponsible fathers and pointing out where they fail in their irresponsibilities. What is wrong with that? Are you planning to be one of them that you are so against this thread? i wonder why you are still here.

pickabeau1:

Your write up was heartfelt n ok.. its the fact that its open to all forms of interpretations that's the issue

I agree.

carefreewannabe:
I think, everyone knows that there are also irresponsible mothers.

Don't take it personally.

I'm not even taking it personally. I just think men need to start speaking up now, before we become the "new black."

Almost everything favours women these days, yet these folks won't let us have peace of mind. It's always about them.

Sophyrocks:

And who is blaming the whole nigerian men for it? we are blaming irresponsible fathers and pointing out where they fail in their irresponsibilities. What is wrong with that? Are you planning to be one of them that you are so against this thread? i wonder why you are still here.

The guy (SirShymmex) is just whyning you.

SirShymex:

It's for me now. I just found my ammo and I'm loading my gun.

You asked for the shooting match!

But you said earlier that the thread isnt for you and there is nothing here to learn so what are you still doing here?

OkikiOluwa1:
The guy (SirShymmex) is just whyning you.

And i am whyning him back.


Come on! HE IS TAKING THE WHOLE ISH PERSONAL.

SirShymex:

I'm not even taking it personally. I just think men need to start speaking up now, before we become the "new black."

Almost everything favours women these days, yet these folks won't let us have peace of mind. It's always about them.

Freedom of Speech for MEN

carefreewannabe:

I think, everyone knows that there are also irresponsible mothers.

Don't take it personally.

I am amazed he is taking it personal.

SirShymex:

I'm not even taking it personally. I just think men need to start speaking up now, before we become the "new black."

Almost everything favours women these days, yet these folks won't let us have peace of mind. It's always about them.

What do you mean by men speaking up? Have men in nigeria been oppressed? Wow! What a thought.

Sophyrocks:
And who is blaming the whole nigerian men for it? we are blaming irresponsible fathers and pointing out where they fail in their irresponsibilities. What is wrong with that? Are you planning to be one of them that you are so against this thread? i wonder why you are still here.

The beauty of every critique is when it's done based on critical analysis. With that, while blaming irresponsible fathers/men, you have to highlight why/how they became irresponsible, and also make sure you point out how some women can be irresponsible as well.

However, when you start spouting the blame game laced with feminism tosh, then it becomes problematic. That's unacceptable to me as a man. Men are becoming too emasculated these days, and the trend has to stop.

Let me cite an example from a next country(not Nigeria) that might be relevant here. There's a popular sport analyst on ESPN called, "Stephen A. Smith." Last week, while he speaking about domestic violence, he said, "I don't condone domestic violence, but women shouldn't engage in provocation." That was all he said before feminists and PC warriors got on his case. And despite apologising for what he said in a 4 mins video - he was suspended from work, for a week - just for saying the truth. That's unacceptable!

pickabeau1: interesting......

these girls.... smh... they just wanna be kept

meanwhile this thread is going to the dogs already

male hating has started... this is about fathers who abandon their families but it has to degenerate into a gender war

Nairaland

me hating? Nah!

stop syh

I don't need to hate on ladies when I am a product of one, and a soul mate of one.

the men involved are not exceptions.

remember, talk begat talk.......I quoted someone to buttress a point.

okay, not every lady then.

Sophyrocks:

But you said earlier that the thread isnt for you and there is nothing here to learn so what are you still doing here?

Nah, I'm here to speak the truth!

Sophyrocks:
I am amazed he is taking it personal.

It's not personal with me, Sophy Roc-a-fella. I just think also need to start sharing part of the blame.

We're equal now, init? Equality for all.

SirShymex:

Well, you and the OP need to always add, "In Nigeria" next time you lot make sweeping generalisations about men.

I'm sorry I don't know how Nigeria operates, that isn't my experience...from my experience, most of the women who cry about deadbeat dads are scandalous imps.

Not really, what the OP is implying occurs in the western world too. Fathers irresponsibility has no boundary. It's a world wide occurrence . Kudos to Dads And Moms worldwide taking care of business .

Sophyrocks:

And i am whyning him back.


Come on! HE IS TAKING THE WHOLE ISH PERSONAL.

He just called me a feminist sympathizer.
He was even out of point by talking about western women.
Last Bullet
Is the western culture the same with Nigeria?
Do Nigerian women v right like the western women?
Don't mind the guy.

SirShymex:

The beauty of every critique is when it's done based on critical analysis. With that, while blaming irresponsible fathers/men, you have to highlight why/how they became irresponsible, and also make sure you point out how some women can be irresponsible as well.

However, when you start spouting the blame game laced feminism tosh, then it becomes problematic. That's unacceptable to me as a man. Men are becoming too emasculated these days, and the trend has to stop.

Let me cite an example from a next country(not Nigeria) that might be relevant here. There's a popular sport analyst on ESPN called, "Stephen A. Smith." Last week, while he speaking about domestic violence, he said, "I don't condone domestic violence, but women shouldn't engage in provocation." That was all he said before feminists and PC warriors got on his case. And despite apologising for what he said in a 4 mins video - he was suspended from work, for a week - just for saying the truth. That's unacceptable!

O.k. how does irresponsibility of a father have anything to do with a woman? do women control men to that extent? we are talking about NIGERIA. how do you wanna make your points when you know nothing about nigeria?