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Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by StOla: 4:53pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
NoMoreTrolling: You disgust everybody that has a sound education. How many times will you be told that the unity schools are not a school for the academically gifted? They are for compulsory national integration. Or is it by force to go to a unity school? Is it the subsidized education that is so attractive to cause you to long for another's slot? Or is it by force to turn an engineering school to a medical school? Why are you complaining about the quota that is not yours. Fill yours and be content with your allocation, stop craving for what you're not entitled to. 7 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 4:54pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
U StOla:THIS ONE IS A CONFIRMED HYPOCRITE. Kai!!! I SPIT ON YOU 7 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by StOla: 4:55pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Kinganaba: You are obviously not in need of spectacles. I wish others had the sight to see what was placed before them. 2 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by StOla: 4:57pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
IsraeliAIRFORCE: Then let the gifted child go to a school for the gifted. Unity school is for national integration. There are thousands of other schools out there. Unity school is not by force. 2 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by NoMoreTrolling: 4:58pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
mapet: another duunce spotted do we now see how Nigeria is churning out duunces, seemingly on a per second basis men, even as I'm driving, nigggahs can't even understand how to turn at roundabouts here in Lagos, as soon as they get to the roundabout, they just go full on duunce mode with erratic lane switching and other duunce moves... which way Nigeria a quota system should apply when students of different ethnic groups have similar scores, not a system that implies that some people are inferior or superior to others men!!! in the words of yuzedo, "i giv up" which way naija 4 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 5:02pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
What's the source of this? Some states are missing: Ebonyi, Ekiti, Nasarawa, Gombe and Zamfara. 1 Like |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 5:09pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
kaycid77:You have said it all, Igbo Private schools anywhere in Nigeria are the best for kids.... QUOTE ME ANYWHERE. I'm not Igbo though... I had to pull my kids from a school owned by someone from a 'certain' tribe and enrolled them in a private school owned and run by Igbos, my dears, the difference is clearer now. I suggest the SE AND SS Govs come together, put up some super regional Unity schools, higher the Best brains and give their children the best of education they deserve. I think it's cruel to allow the F.G mess up the bright future of these kids just because they scored 65 in a Common entrance exam 6 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 5:11pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
StOla: Aside being far from objectivity and sincerity I used to think you're learned. 4 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by NoMoreTrolling: 5:12pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
StOla: look at this one trying to defend the indefensible, so far entrenched in the ways of mediocrity that your head in stuck up your own asss saying unity schools are not for the academically gifted, then why, why oh why is there a need to place a high cutoff mark for any state it's like saying that King's Collage Lagos is not a school meant for the academically gifted, men oma see ooo this is why sometimes I get tired of Nigeria, but each day I try to find strength and encouragement from the sane minds around me, whatever tribe they come from [[like when i'm driving and i see a guy in front of me obeying traffic rules and staying in his lane, using his signal lights and so on, i just think to myself "that's my nigga" ]] it's better to set up an entire "type" of school for children that can't make a country wide cutoff, that way, the syllabus can be tailored to meet their needs in nurturing them intellectually. that would be a round peg in a round hole, not one we have now where a student that scored as low as 15 is in a class with one that scored as high as 50 just so they can learn about unity i giv up men 9 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 5:20pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
xtrorse:whatever. |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by StOla: 5:28pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
NoMoreTrolling: Are you the government that instituted the unity school system as to claim its for the gifted as opposed to the national integration the policy shows it to be? I repeat, the unity school is not a school for the academically gifted. You obviously do not know that a high cut off is a function of high scores by candidates from their respective states. I'll try to simplify the process of determining cut off marks to you. I'm not saying it is word perfect, but it suffices. If Anambra has a slot for 25 and the least score of the 1st 25 is 60, then cut-off becomes 60 for Anambra to fill its own quota. If Sokoto has a slot for 25 and the least score of the 1st 25 is 15, then the cut-off becomes 15 for Sokoto to fill its own quota. Pleease, please and please, how has Sokoto cheated Anambra when Anambra fixed its own high scores by internal competition between fellow Anambrarians for their state slot, and by virtue of its academic superiority to Sokoto? Do you prefer to have Anambra students score so low? How would that change the fact that your are still entitled to your state quota alone. 5 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Stolen: 5:32pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
[size=18pt]One Naijeria, but i dont see it in the Common Entrance cut off mark released. If we cannot see it in common entrance cut off mark, where are we to see it?[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by StOla: 5:33pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
xtrorse: I repeat, unity school is not by force. Keep your eyes on your state's quota and stop looking across the fence. If you were not the tribal jingoist that you are, you will understand simply policy on quota and stop acting like you're a victim of injustice. Stop pokenosing into quota that is not yours. 2 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 5:37pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
StOla: If you're not a hypocritical bigot, pronto stay off the petrol-dollars, seek the much needed funding from groundnut or cocoa, hand over all the oil blocks in your possession and dissolve your numerous LGAs designed to perpetually loot the commonwealth! And stop your crass display of arrogance and callousness as if you feed the people who have sustained your existence and wastefulness thus far in this entity! That should be simple enough for you to undertake...soonest! 5 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by scholes0(m): 5:44pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Where are Ekiti and Ebonyi states na .... |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Ballmer: 5:56pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
xtrorse: Well the European should have been Extremely uncomfortable to introduce civilisation to the Igbos and should have wiped the Igbos off the face of the earth Instead. At least The pathetic state of your civilisation And comparism to them would have been highly regrettable too. 1 Like |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by NoMoreTrolling: 5:58pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
StOla: it seems you are plugged in, so you are not grasping what the theme of this thread is, what the implications are and what the rectification should be how am I supposed to get through to you when you are so steadfast in your belief in mediocrity nonetheless, i'm still gonna try we are arguing, not based on the technicalities and implementation of the quota system, but based on the rationale behind it let me state an example for you in practical terms. when i was in ss3, we had a junior student in ss2 then that couldn't do simple multiplication. like he couldn't do 4 * 4 and so on and I and my friends wondered how he kept rising through school with failed class reports. being much younger then, we probably just laughed it off as we had more pressing school issues to think about like light, water... however, now it does sink in a bit. i ask you, would a student who scored 7 be learning the same material as the one who scored 60 would the material be dropped down to the level of the "7" student, or brought up to the level of the "60" student if it's brought down to the level of the "7" student, then the "60" student would have wasted a great potential in that school and if it is brought up to the "60" student level, then how would the "7" student compete do you now see how delirious the current system is here you are giving me numbers and statistics of how the current bad implementation of the quota system is being carried out and you expect that to serve as some sort of justification you even mention about a state not being cheated! that's how far down the rabbit hole you've sunk. you need to first unplug dude 8 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 6:01pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Ballmer: I feel your drift and delirious state that you're still gloating over the genocide committed against the Igbos by your callous forebears in 1966-70. Nevertheless, Karma comes after everyone eventually...it shall be your turn...very soon! 2 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 6:02pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
StOla: What you have written so far has not invalidated the argument of people against quota system: it not only rewards mediocrity but unfortunately also punishes hardwork. Provided students in Sokoto and Anambra wrote the same examination and under similar conditions, you can't fault the argument that students in Anambra are better than those in Sokoto. That's pretty much obvious. Plus, where is the chance that a candidate from Sokoto can even compete with ones from Anambra in the unity school? And should we build schools where mediocrities are being groomed? I don't like quota system but I am not completely against it. What needs to be done is set an irreducible minimum below which no candidate should be admitted. In that case, we will know states that can not fill their quota. For instance, if the minimum is 40 for all states, Anambra candidates would still have to be highly competitive to get in because there are many good students in Anambra but that would also ensure Sokoto is not sending students who have no chance of competing. Plus, the school's standard will be maintained. This system of anything goes is not good. Does it mean a candidate from Zamfara with a score of 2 can also be admitted in the name of uniting the country? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Scholes007(m): 6:23pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
StOla:that is where you didnt get the logic is quota system the ideal solution for the education woes of nigeria especially the not?...lets look at it at the lens of unity. Why is the cut off mark difference between these regions so large beyond logic? What has the govt done over the year to close the gap?.... Is there no private? If No. Does it mean unity school is meant for olodo northerns? 1 Like |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by wirinet(m): 6:27pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Why is it that only Igbos wail about the inequal cut off mark for admission into Unity Schools? Are they the only tribe in Nigeria. Is it by force to send your Children to Unity Schools? There are only 104 federal unity schools in Nigeria - http://toscanyacademy.com/blog/nigeria-education/list-of-federal-unity-colleges-in-nigeria/, Meanwhile there are tens of thousands of secondary schools in Nigeria - State and public owned, why not send your highly intelligent kids there. Better still why not lobby your governors to set up dis-unity schools in your region, and set up whatever criteria you like for admission. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by StOla: 6:29pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
NoMoreTrolling: All you have said falls flat at the footsteps of national unity and integration - the compelling reason for establishing such schools after the civil war. You will agree with me that these schools are hardly more than 1or 2 in each state, with Lagos having 3. There are multitudes of schools nationwide for the kind of academic competition you obviously prefer. So why do we attach so much to schools that are like a drop in a mighty ocean. For as long as these schools enjoy federal subsidies, they have no choice but to conform to the federal policy that masterminded their set up. Sometime in the late 80's the federal government conceived a plan for a National School for the gifted, as an extension of the unity school system. While I believe the school was eventually kick started much later, I would like to believe that even if admission has any form of federal character rule, it is secondary to merit - its primary requirement for admission. The true unplug will be the government privatising the schools, stop the subsidies and let admission be at the discretion of the private proprietors. Everybody stops convulsing over subsidized qualitative education. This then begs the question, didn't we have private schools all along? As long as the schools are federal and set up with a national integration agenda, quota will continue to trump merit. This is a very fundamental argument. The failure or success of the unity schools in terms of academics, barely defines the greater secondary education in Nigeria that is constituted by all sorts of schools from state public, to private, to parochial. So why the fuss over admission in unity schools when we are all aware of what the unity school is and hopes to achieve? Even ensuring that each state has a fair representation? But some people insist, seeing that it is cheap yet relatively qualitative, that they must have what belongs to others within that system. Shamelessly making themselves out as victims instead of the greedy beings that they truly are. Again, unity school is not by force. Lots of schools out there in the wild. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 6:30pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
wirinet: But when it comes to revenue sharing you've created numerous LGAs for your parasitic States at the expense of other viable States, to rip off the country and short-change others in the name of 'One Nigeria'. You would rather use the petrol-dollars from another's backyard to fund the Unity Schools than develop and depend on your solid minerals for the funding. To add insult to the already festering injury you've appropriated over 85% of the oil blocks at another's backyard to yourselves. You'll not remember Quota System in political appointments or revenue sharing. And you will not fail to put for the 'strong' reason that the land mass of your sparsely populated State is 10 times bigger than mine. When it suits your whims and caprices you shift the goal-post and use the Quota System to your advantages. You would rather perennially rob Peter to pay parasitic Paul in the name of maintaining a phantom unity. In deed, all animals are equal but some are more equal than the other, in this fraudulent union. Little wonder folks like you are hell-bent in maintaining the status quo than have the system restructured; a lopsided system that has favoured you and your co-travellers. Other people are wiser...It's a matter of time! 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by IGBOSON1: 6:44pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
obum88: ^^^Utter tosh!.....No offense! Be there and be claiming some phantom 'superiority' while in fact you're actually being cheated and punished for your hard work and effort! It would have been different if that effort and hard work is recognized and gives you an advantage over and above your 'compatriots' who put in less effort! But we all know this isn't the case in Nigeria.....just look at the appointments made thus far by your 'equitable and fair-minded' president; look at how your Igboland has been marginalized and lacks in certain economic drivers that other regions now take for granted! 1 Like |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by StOla: 6:50pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Scholes007: No, unity school is not meant for olodo Northerners. They have lots of schools in every local government in each state in the North, just as the South has. So they also populate other schools both private and public just as it is obtainable in the South. All of us on this thread know why the Northern cut-offs are low, so there's no need for an exposition on that. If boko haram could gain ground there among the locals, then you know education never really had a fighting chance except among the privileged wealthy few. The unity schools can only try to bridge the gap but a gap that wide is best closed up while at the primary level. I believe there are no 2 separate academic evaluations for Southern students versus Northern students in the duration of scholarship in these unity schools. Anyone who cannot keep up will naturally drop along the way. The injustice would have been if our almighty Igbos had to score 70 as pass mark to the next grade while a Northerner need only score 20 to move to the next grade. As it is, pass mark is uniform across the board irrespective of how academically disadvantaged a Northerner is to the Southerner. Quota system is only a policy to ensure general representation to help accomplish the integration goals the government set up the unity schools for. We would not be having this discussion if all states had cut offs above 60, yet the quota would have still been the same. The continued low cut off from the North is only an evidence that the North has refused to get up from the tracks. An inability to keep up with the pace while in the unity schools cannot be blamed on anyone, neither is there a quota for failure or success. The academically weak will fall by the way. 1 Like |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by obailala(m): 6:52pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
warrior01:Why do you have to title the thread "Injustice Against Igbos" even when it is clear that there are several other states/tribes from both the SW and SS that are equally dissadvantaged by this same issue?... Are you aware it is little acts of self-centeredness like this, when done in excess that makes every other tribe hate the Igbos today? You have simply defeated the purpose of this thread by making it look like a problem suffered by Igbos alone. We need to put aside this "everyone wants to hurt me mentality" and understand that the problems we faced is a general one. 2 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 6:56pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
obailala: You're always masturbating on Igbo issues. Check the records for the past decades by consulting Google and see that the previous cut-off points have been set abnormally high for Igbo States. Other States results have been much lower than this year's in comparison to Igbo's. You dare accuse Igbos of self-centeredness, even when you know that Igbos have shown more 'Nigerianness' than your most preferred tribe? As per hatred, such hatred had commenced in full gear since the days of Ahmadu Bello. In case you're not in the know bid me to show you historical facts to back my assertion. 8 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by coolitempa(f): 6:57pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
warrior01: These cut-off marks are for Unity schools and most of us know that the SW has long jettisoned that system hence the slightly lower cut-off for them. You must remember that the SW has by far the highest number of independent schools in the whole country where standards are higher and which are predominantly populated by students of SW origin.... 1 Like |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Nobody: 7:01pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
coolitempa: Story for the gods! You may succeed in deceiving some people sometimes but you can't deceive everybody all the time! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by begwong: 7:19pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Dude, Ever heard of the word *educationally backward state". This isn't injustice biko. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by StOla: 7:20pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
bayooooooo: It would be wrong to say it punishes hardwork, because all along the Anambra student is competing not with the Sokoto boy, but with fellow Anambrarians for only Anambras quota. The high scoring boy who fails to make his state quota has a lot of other options to chose from. It is not the end of the world where lots of schools abound even on the same street. The real debate here is who gets to enjoy government subsidized education. It is this subsidy that the state quota is placed on (or how do you explain the situation where people who have better quality schools surrounding them still fighting over just 102 unity schools in Nigeria). This subsidy is only given at the condition that it is shared equally nationally. Concerning the school standard, it cannot drop because all that need happen is that the low scoring student will fall by the way. The need to ensure heterogeneity does not compel unity schools to carry a baggage of un-trainable students. So they will only go as far as their mental capacity allows. I fear that even the 40 score might be unattainable for most of the Northerners who might consider unity schools. Not saying there wouldn't be others who are quite gifted but too wealthy to consider education in a government school. Many Southerners also belong to this category. So for the few who even apply, many might not even turn up for the admission. Soon the unity goal of the schools are defeated, the government no longer see the need for subsidizing the schools, they are privatised and everyone is back to ground level of cash and carry. Even the gifted poor with a high score cannot afford his fees. Then we all realise that the erstwhile unity school now private without the subsidy, is just like every other private school we had around us, which you could as well enrol in now without bickering about government subsidized unity schools whose entry rules are as straight forward as open/close. 2 Likes |
Re: Another Injustice Against Igbos As Common Entrance Cut Off Mark Is Released by Kingspin(m): 7:28pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
StOla:Have u seen an almajiri before? 5 Likes |
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