Brainiacmrtolz:
All I see is another post intended only to damage the image of Christianity possibly by an acclaimed Christian. And it breaks my heart that Christians undermine their religion in public and then talks about winning souls into the kingdom of God.

They travel around and overseas to get a convert but eventually resist him from entering the kingdom of God by making him more dammed than they are.

While some are fighting the good fight of faith some are out there destroying the works of the servants.

Instead of just preaching saying "Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand" all you hear is condemnation of a servant of God that striving to win or a servant that slips on the journey of faith.

If people of other religions are putting out messages that destroy the credibility of Christianity why should Christians be a part of it. If a minister do some that is not totally right it is not your responsibility to judge the person ( whom you did not send) , why not leave him or her to God who he claim to serve. As long as he or she claims to be a Christian he is our brother, she is our sister we must pray for him or her.

When we condemn ministers of God we don't only strike their image we strike the image of of our religion at large.

Christians need to wake up and protect our religion not destroy it.

fabre4:
A guy who claims to be an atheist but does sends any post that will discredit Christianity to the front page is not an atheist but an Antichristian

And to think all the stress they go through just to give themselves a reason not to be a Christian makes me pity them and feel really sorry for them.

Seun:
Yesterday, I decided to listen to the official video of Sinach's most famous worship song, 'Way Maker':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4XWfwLHeLM
I'm pleased to say that I enjoyed this video much better than her singing during the Benny Hinn program I reviewed earlier.

However, I have a problem. At 4:32 she spoke some words which I don't understand: "bo shadada vandasanda". After singing some more, at 4:52, she sang these words "o rerererebo shande yama zeke allelu," which I don't understand either. When I asked for the translation, I was told she was speaking in tongues which, fortunately, can be interpreted by those who have the gift of interpretation.

I hereby call upon Nairalanders with the gift of interpretation of tongues to interpret those words for us so we can fully appreciate the song.

shamecurls:
At page 5 and No on yet can interpret the bolded Everyone just quoting bible verses instead of answering the question.

What is the meaning? #Simple

femzysticks:
interpretation of tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit...

tongues also is not an earthly language but a spiritual language..

you need to be highly connected to the spirit to understand (when you have the gift)

not interpreting plane text...

the meaning is not certain..

when we speak in tongues.. the Holy Spirit intercedes for us. that is He prays for us. telling God our heart desires and worship...

so the meaning of that at that time may not be be meaning later..

it takes men of the spirit to understand things of the spirit!!!

Daboomb:


I dont agree with you! Do you have EVIDENCE to prove the bolded?

I am a Christian and l have asked these questions too, for some decades now.
There is nothing wrong for someone to want to KNOW, .............whatever their motive is, it only requires a TRUE answer, except the issue involved is itself a SCAM.

Now, answer the question first, before criticising the person who raised the question.
To be honest, the "modern day' Christians have abused and adulterated Christianity so much that Jesus must be squirming right now!
I know we dont like Muslims or Atheist criticising Christianity because they are "not even close to being comparable, how much more of being better".
But like other religions, we have p.im.ps calling themselves "men of God" and we have sheeple calling themselves "children of God" so much so that Christianity, like in the days of Jesus in the Temple (when he flogged them out), has been turned to a very "profitable Business of Money"!

Even then, these events have been foretold in the Bible so no true chiristian should be surprised.
Its a sign of the "closing-in of the End times".

lollmaolol:

Let's organise a prayer session for him

Acidosis:
I Corinthians 14:4 provides the answer to all arguments on this thread


"Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church."


You can actually speak in tongues to lift your spirit. It doesn't have to be interpreted.

Why would you want to interpret someone's communication with her creator? She's not prophesying so let her be. The words are not meant for you sir.

goldwaters:
It's supposed to be speaking in unknown(to the speaker) tongues/a foreign language not gibberish. And it should be interpreted so all present gets the message.
It surprises me that some denominations even teach how to speak in tongues.

naijadeyhia:


1. You seem to think anyone owes Seun the obligation of explanation

2. You lack the knowledge of the purpose of speaking in tongues to the speaker and to the hearer.

3. God is not in a contest with Seun or his league of atheists

4. God would not give what is meant for his children to Pigs...they would only ruin and ridicule it.

5. Do not quote me!

bezimo:
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries- I cor 14:2

But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost Jude 1:20

If you lack understanding on the mystery of speaking of tongues, don't criticize what you don't understand.Go for understanding to enlighten your ignorance.

Genuine tongues come from the spirit man by the Holy Ghost and has some form of impact on the person speaking but just like everything good God does, Satan also has his version.

If you are not born again and neither are you baptized in the HolyGhost.How can you understand the mystery of tonging in the HolyGhost.Impossible!!.

Science has proved that when a person prays in the Holy ghost, the natural speaking pattern(that is the body system of speaking ) is altered, and functions in a strange way. Find that research out.i f you care.

Daboomb:


I dont agree with you! Do you have EVIDENCE to prove the bolded?

I am a Christian and l have asked these questions too, for some decades now.
There is nothing wrong for someone to want to KNOW, .............whatever their motive is, it only requires a TRUE answer, except the issue involved is itself a SCAM.

Now, answer the question first, before criticising the person who raised the question.
To be honest, the "modern day' Christians have abused and adulterated Christianity so much that Jesus must be squirming right now!
I know we dont like Muslims or Atheist criticising Christianity because they are "not even close to being comparable, how much more of being better".
But like other religions, we have p.im.ps calling themselves "men of God" and we have sheeple calling themselves "children of God" so much so that Christianity, like in the days of Jesus in the Temple (when he flogged them out), has been turned to a very "profitable Business of Money"!

Even then, these events have been foretold in the Bible so no true chiristian should be surprised.
Its a sign of the "closing-in of the End times".

thorpido:
Jargons!
How can you speak so confidently about what you don't understand?
Tongues is a language but it's a spiritual language.Do you speak or understand Mandarin?If a man speaks mandarin,will another Chinese man understand him?Yes,but you do not because it is strange to you nevertheless it's a language understood.Does it have the same words when spoken by another man?Yes.
Tongues can have similar words and they can be repeated.It doesn't make it nonsense.
Interpreting it comes as another gift.Some have that gift.

GrizzlyBear:
If there is anything that is starkly spurious in christianity, it's the whole notion of speaking in tongues.
What christians call speaking is tongues, is just someone saying random meaningless words and claiming it's of heavenly origin. Anyone can do this.

Just study any christian who frequently speaks in tongues and you'll notice that every time he speaks in tongues, he uses the same string of phrases. This is because his brain has already become accustomed to those words, and invariably made it his default "heavenly tongue."

I know relations who have been using the same string of meaningless phrases for years now. They are so used to it, that they don't even know that it's the same bland group of words that they use.

Christians need to know that whatever transcendent feeling they experience, that causes them to speak in tongues, such feeling is not exclusive to christians. People from other religions also experience this feeling when they engage in their own so called spiritual activities, which can range from worship, to prayer, or even meditation which is isomorphic to quiet prayer, and such feeling can be so profound and overwhelming, that it makes them susceptible to suggestion and weird behavior. And when they get accustomed to such weird behavior, it becomes a part of them.

The fact that there are branches of christianity that don't even believe in the idea of speaking in tongues, and still claim that they speak to and hear from God, and God assures them on a daily basis that what they are doing( not believing in his holy spirit and manifesting it's presence by speaking in tongues) is right, then it raises the question of the validity of either of the beliefs, because both camps claim that God speaks to them. So it's either God is deliberately causing confusion, is confused himself, or both camps are just being delusional and their God doesn't exist.

lele007:
Not all utterances in tongues are to be interpreted.

Mostly tongues are spoken to God: 1 Corinthians 14:2 - "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God"

spirit-to-Spirit, strictly NYB (not your bizwax)

Seun:
Yesterday, I decided to listen to the official video of Sinach's most famous worship song, 'Way Maker':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4XWfwLHeLM
I'm pleased to say that I enjoyed this video much better than her singing during the Benny Hinn program I reviewed earlier.

However, I have a problem. At 4:32 she spoke some words which I don't understand: "bo shadada vandasanda". After singing some more, at 4:52, she sang these words "o rerererebo shande yama zeke allelu," which I don't understand either. When I asked for the translation, I was told she was speaking in tongues which, fortunately, can be interpreted by those who have the gift of interpretation.

I hereby call upon Nairalanders with the gift of interpretation of tongues to interpret those words for us so we can fully appreciate the song.

jamislaw:
Stop been abusive and interpret that gibberish, or your holy spirit have left you again?

GrizzlyBear:
If there is anything that is starkly spurious in christianity, it's the whole notion of speaking in tongues.
What christians call speaking is tongues, is just someone saying random meaningless words and claiming it's of heavenly origin. Anyone can do this.

Just study any christian who frequently speaks in tongues and you'll notice that every time he speaks in tongues, he uses the same string of phrases. This is because his brain has already become accustomed to those words, and invariably made it his default "heavenly tongue."

I know relations who have been using the same string of meaningless phrases for years now. They are so used to it, that they don't even know that it's the same bland group of words that they use.

Christians need to know that whatever transcendent feeling they experience, that causes them to speak in tongues, such feeling is not exclusive to christians. People from other religions also experience this feeling when they engage in their own so called spiritual activities, which can range from worship, to prayer, or even meditation which is isomorphic to quiet prayer, and such feeling can be so profound and overwhelming, that it makes them susceptible to suggestion and weird behavior. And when they get accustomed to such weird behavior, it becomes a part of them.

The fact that there are branches of christianity that don't even believe in the idea of speaking in tongues, and still claim that they speak to and hear from God, and God assures them on a daily basis that what they are doing( not believing in his holy spirit and manifesting it's presence by speaking in tongues) is right, then it raises the question of the validity of either of the beliefs, because both camps claim that God speaks to them. So it's either God is deliberately causing confusion, is confused himself, or both camps are just being delusional and their God doesn't exist.

Acidosis:
I Corinthians 14:4 provides the answer to all arguments on this thread


"Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church."


You can actually speak in tongues to lift your spirit. It doesn't have to be interpreted.

Why would you want to interpret someone's communication with her creator? She's not prophesying so let her be. The words are not meant for you sir.

ndcide:


Gbam!!!
Also your earlier post too. However, Seun didn't really open this thread from sincerity..

I've said it before, majority of those who claim not to believe in God, believe the devil in their heart but the devil is wiser than them and wicked too.