HopeAtHand:


goodluck to you with 20% of sales from Ugwu. I hope the FG stops allication to those states.

I really Wish this works so dat Rivers state can get xtra serious with her ports.

lol

HopeAtHand:


goodluck to you with 20% of sales from Ugwu. I hope the FG stops allication to those states.

I really Wish this works so dat Rivers state can get xtra serious with her ports.

Still words of consolation.

Keep it up.

pazienza:


Lol!

Okwu nkasiobi ndi obi na afu ufu.

Bro anything that rocks their boat is allowed...

pazienza:


Still words of consolation.

Keep it up.

He will feign ignorance of Onitsha River port to console himself... lol

pazienza:

Still words of consolation.
Keep it up.

i dnt understand what you mean by consolation..

IN SUMMARY

Call for special status for Lagos is a resource control agitation cry

Lagos is saying they want a bigger share of VAT, Port ,airport and Customs Revenue

Simples

every other state can agitate for a greater share of whatever lies in their territory.


Under the present constitution derivation only applies to oil and minerals like Gold

omonnakoda:
IN SUMMARY

Call for special status for Lagos is a resource control agitation cry

Lagos is saying they want a bigger share of VAT, Port ,airport and Customs Revenue

Simples

every other state can agitate for a greater share of whatever lies in their territory.


Under the present constitution derivation only applies to oil and minerals like Gold

Yes!

This will lead to rush, push and cries for proliferation of ports,airports, federal parastatals headquarters, etc, in other parts of the country, as states hustle to get a bite of the New big cake.

Its interesting times ahead. And Anambra with her indigenous industrialization and continuous pouring of investments into the state by noble sons and daughters of the state is well positioned to benefit on the long run.

pazienza:


Yes!

This will lead to rush, push and cries for proliferation of ports,airports, federal parastatals headquarters, etc, in other parts of the country, as states hustle to get a bite of the New big cake.

Its interesting times ahead. And Anambra with her indigenous industrialization and continuous pouring of investments into the state by noble sons and daughters of the state is well positioned to benefit.

And when all this happen, guess what will happen to Lagos.

TheEastActivist:


And when all this happen, guess what will happen to Lagos.

The bubble will burst!

I guess some people are banking on current monopoly on ports, international airport and customs activities they currently enjoy.

pazienza:


The bubble will burst!

I guess some people are banking on current monopoly on ports, international airport and customs activities they currently enjoy.

You are brilliant. The more reason why I support the bill.
Goodnight bro

pazienza:


Yes!

This will lead to rush, push and cries for proliferation of ports,airports, federal parastatals headquarters, etc, in other parts of the country, as states hustle to get a bite of the New big cake.

Its interesting times ahead. And Anambra with her indigenous industrialization and continuous pouring of investments into the state by noble sons and daughters of the state is well positioned to benefit on the long run.

I agree but there is one mistake people make about Lagos. Lagos did not receive any special funding in the past.Certainly not in the same way that Abuja did.Lagos has ALWAYS been a net contributor to the Federation account.

The seaport in Lagos cannot be replicated as cheaply elsewhere in Nigeria. A port with returns and minimal need for reinvestment.The reason is simple : Terrain Lagos has the Cotonou terrain the rest of Nigeria's coastline is mangrove and creek. Very expensive to develop and maintain and that is why the British left Calabar.The Body cannot begrudge the mouth that he enjoys the food the most one can understand how the anus feels.That is why the two are so far apart...........
The next best place to develop ports in Nigeria is Ondo State.Politically this is too controversial but that is the geographical reality
Lagos will always be the mouth of Nigeria and right now Lagos wants lipstick

pazienza:


The bubble will burst!

I guess some people are banking on current monopoly on ports, international airport and customs activities they currently enjoy.

In time the lagos bubble will burst as 2nd and 3rd tiers cities begin to open up in the East. The final death blow will be akwa ibom deep sea port. Anambra is already leading the ways and very soon others will follow.

omonnakoda:
I agree but there is one mistake people make about Lagos. Lagos did not receive anyy special funding in the past.Certainly not in the sae way that Abuja did.Lagos has ALWAY been a net contributor to the Federation account.

The seaport in Lagos cannot be replicated as cheaply elsewhere in Nigeria. A port with returns and minimal need for reinvestment.The reason is simple : Terrain Lagos has the Cotonu terrain the rest of Nigeria's coastline is mangrove and creek. Very expensive to develop and that is why the British left Calabar.The Body cannot begrudge the mouth that he enjoys the food the most one can understand how the anus feels.That is why the two are so far apart...........
Lagos will always be the mouth of Nigeria and right now Lagos wants lipstick

Lagos was a bushland developed by British and FG using resources generated from the rest of Nigeria.

Lagos is only big because Nigeria exists and the current monopoly she enjoys in Nigeria. It wouldn't be bigger than Accra, Lome, Conakry, etc ie other coastal cities founded by the colonials, without the large population and resources( both human and mineral) of the entire Nigeria( most populous Negro nation on earth) that she enjoyed and continues to enjoy.

Seaports can and will be built elsewhere in Nigeria, once it becomes obvious that those are the New big cake in town, the British left Calabar for Lagos because they had that option.
Cross river government would not have that option, it's only option is Calabar, and she will develop it to generate funds to uplift her people, likewise the rest of the states with such capability.

Fremancipation:


In time the lagos bubble will burst as 2nd and 3rd tiers cities begin to open up in the East. The final death blow will be akwa ibom deep sea port. Anambra is already leading the ways and very soon others will follow.

They are digging a grave with this bill. The rest of Nigeria will help bury them in it.

I just dey laugh.

Their gain will be transient,after the bill is passed, but events will take a trajectory they never anticipated.

Knowledge had increased, and unfortunately for them, they nolonger control the media propaganda artillery.

To create a city like Lagos is very easy. You just have to go to an empty land and put the major sea and airport, embassies, and multinational companies headquarters for a country of 180 million people. Come back in 5 years and see that empty piece on land turn into a mega city. Lagos exist the way it does because of Nigerian unbalanced system driven by ethnic bigotry.

Fremancipation:


In time the lagos bubble will burst as 2nd and 3rd tiers cities begin to open up in the East. The final death blow will be akwa ibom deep sea port. Anambra is already leading the ways and very soon others will follow.

There is no bubble bursting any time soon quite apart from all the stone ,the concrete ,the hardware is the software. From 1967 -1970 there was a civil war in Nigeria and at the end of the war there was an abandoned property decree.The Yoruba could have appropriated Igbo property aplenty.They did not ,it is not in their DNA.The Yoruba are a very open and accommodating lot. That is what makes a city openness and freedom and in that respect nowhere in Nigeria is comparable to Lagos

Anchuna:

One major problem in Nigeria is ignorance and gross inadequate knowledge of our country. So in your imagination, Kano does not have any business. I will only pardon you, if you are less than 16 years old, but if you are more, then, try and do some research about Kano. In terms of business and industry, only Lagos and recently Ogun state top Kano in Nigeria. As for Rivers state where I have lived for more than ten years, I can authoritatively tell you that the state does not come close to Kano in terms of numbers of businesses, factories, and companies. The only economic activity in Rivers state is oil and gas with only Shell among the multinational having its headquarters in Port Harcourt. Mobil, Chevron, Agip, and Total have their headquarters in Lagos. Others are the oil and gas servicing companies not more than 50, most, their headquarters still in Lagos, cluster mainly in Trans Amadi Industrial Area. So my brother, even in your imagination, never assume or think that Rivers state has more businesses or even infrastructure than Kano. We have only three cities in Nigeria. They are: Lagos, Abuja, and Kano. Others are just mega towns including Port Harcourt which is still far less developed than Kaduna. Ask people you know who have been to Kano about the city and you will be awe-inspired about your findings.

Neither Lagos or Kano are developed, they just have a central area with acres of rot and decay tagging on around them.

pazienza:


Lagos was a bushland developed by British and FG using resources generated from the rest of Nigeria.

Lagos is only big because Nigeria exists and the current monopoly she enjoys in Nigeria. It wouldn't be bigger than Accra, Lome, Conakry, etc ie other coastal cities founded by the colonials, without the large population and resources( both human and mineral) of the entire Nigeria( most populous Negro nation on earth) that she enjoyed and continues to enjoy.

Seaports can and will be built elsewhere in Nigeria, once it becomes obvious that those are the New big cake in town, the British left Calabar for Lagos because they had that option.
Cross river government would not have that option, it's only option is Calabar, and she will develop it to generate funds to uplift her people, likewise the rest of the states with such capability.

Lagos owes a lot lot to Nigeria but ultimately it is location . That location would serve Lagos excellently whatever else would have existed in the place of Nigeria. The anus is always jealous of the mouth but that is all in the nature of things. Lagos is a phenomenon of Geography.
Why even before Nigeria did the Great Benin covet it. If Nigeria did not exist something else would and Lagos would still be great

omonnakoda:
Lagos owes a lot lot to Nigeria but ultimately it is location . That location would serve Lagos excellently whatever else would have existed in the place of Nigeria. The anus is always jealous of the mouth.ut that is all in the nature of things. Lagos is phenoenon of Geography.
Why even before Nigeria did the Great Benin covet it. If Nigeria did not exist something else would and Lagos would still be great

Lagos is not better located than Lome, Accra, Conakry, Banjul, Freetown, etc, ie African coastal cities built by the colonials.

There is nothing special about Lagos. She has nothing else that those African cities lacked other than the fact that she was made a monopoly in the most populous European colony in west Africa.
Nigeria made Lagos what she is today.

So, stop the grandiose delusions already.

pazienza:


Lagos was a bushland developed by British and FG using resources generated from the rest of Nigeria.

Lagos is only big because Nigeria exists and the current monopoly she enjoys in Nigeria. It wouldn't be bigger than Accra, Lome, Conakry, etc ie other coastal cities founded by the colonials, without the large population and resources( both human and mineral) of the entire Nigeria( most populous Negro nation on earth) that she enjoyed and continues to enjoy.

Seaports can and will be built elsewhere in Nigeria, once it becomes obvious that those are the New big cake in town, the British left Calabar for Lagos because they had that option.
Cross river government would not have that option, it's only option is Calabar, and she will develop it to generate funds to uplift her people, likewise the rest of the states with such capability.

You are ignorant. Why did the British not develop Gbaramatu or Eleme or Obigbo.

Lagos was a business opportunity spotted by the British.They invested and made several times what they invested. That is the true characterization. We have debated this on Nairaland a dozen times ,Google : Lagos Colonial Report Nairaland"

Lagos was and is the BEST location for seaport development in Nigeria when cost is the SOLE CRITERIA

Today it is also best when security is considered

but ultimately it comes down to cost .No investors wants to spend billions dredging every year

pazienza:


Lagos was a bushland developed by British and FG using resources generated from the rest of Nigeria.

Lagos is only big because Nigeria exists and the current monopoly she enjoys in Nigeria. It wouldn't be bigger than Accra, Lome, Conakry, etc ie other coastal cities founded by the colonials, without the large population and resources( both human and mineral) of the entire Nigeria( most populous Negro nation on earth) that she enjoyed and continues to enjoy.

Seaports can and will be built elsewhere in Nigeria, once it becomes obvious that those are the New big cake in town, the British left Calabar for Lagos because they had that option.
Cross river government would not have that option, it's only option is Calabar, and she will develop it to generate funds to uplift her people, likewise the rest of the states with such capability.

Atiku has those ports under his thumb at Intels.

omonnakoda:
Lagos owes a lot lot to Nigeria but ultimately it is location . That location would serve Lagos excellently whatever else would have existed in the place of Nigeria. The anus is always jealous of the mouth but that is all in the nature of things. Lagos is a phenomenon of Geography.
Why even before Nigeria did the Great Benin covet it. If Nigeria did not exist something else would and Lagos would still be great

I think it has more to do with European activity and conquest than just it's location. Lagos has been special ever since being a colony.

pazienza:


Lagos is not better located than Lome, Accra, Conakry, Banjul, Freetown, etc, ie African coastal cities built by the colonials.

There is nothing special about Lagos. She has nothing else that those African cities lacked other than the fact that she was made a monopoly in the most populous European colony in west Africa.
Nigeria made Lagos what she is today.

So, stop the grandiose delusions already.

No it is better located because there are more people in Nigeria .Nigeria is a very big market seviced by Lagos.THAT is the key

Lagos is the entry point into the biggest market in Africa.


That is why the British went to war with the Ijebus in the 19th century

The ugly girls says there is nothing special about the beautiful one, my pussy is tighter but the buyer knows what he wants.........

omonnakoda:
No it is better located because there are more people in Nigeria .Nigeria is a very big market seviced by Lagos.THAT is the key

Lagos is the entry point into the biggest market in Africa.


That is why the British went to war with the Ijebus in the 19th century

The ugly girls says there is nothing special about the beautiful one, my pussy is tighter but the buyer knows what he wants.........

Your analogy is wrong, it should be rape. You're basically bragging that the British were able to colonise Lagos first.

ezeagu:


I think it has more to do with European activity and conquest than just it's location. Lagos has been special ever since being a colony.

I always respect your opinions. Yes is has more to do with location ,at different times, equaly important is that the people of Lagos are not controversial, they are peaceful and welcoming.

The other factor is Nigeria is a big country Lagos would be nothing if it was in Gambia and when I harp on location I specifically am referring to the fact that we have about 800 km of coastline most of which is very very expensive to develop compared to Lagos

pazienza:


Lagos is not better located than Lome, Accra, Conakry, Banjul, Freetown, etc, ie African coastal cities built by the colonials.

There is nothing special about Lagos. She has nothing else that those African cities lacked other than the fact that she was made a monopoly in the most populous European colony in west Africa.
Nigeria made Lagos what she is today.

So, stop the grandiose delusions already.

Thank you. I don't know why people wont just accept the plain truth. Benin republic have indigenous yorubas living there mostly in the southern part yet they couldn't replicate Lagos. Ogun and ondo state has access to the ocean but they couldn't build or replicate lagos on their own. But this people always use lagos to brag as if it is their own making.

Fremancipation:


Thank you. I don't know why people wont just accept the plain truth. Benin republic have indigenous yorubas living there mostly in the southern part yet they couldn't replicate Lagos. Ogun and ondo state has access to the ocean but they couldn't build or replicate lagos on their own. But this people always use lagos to brag as if it is their own making.

You are bitter and disillusioned. For me this is not a Yoruba issue. Yes Lagos would be nothing without Nigeria,I would be the first to own that truth. SO for me there is no argument that iis not what my argument is it is not a supremacist one rather a descriptive.
Lagos is in the right place in the right era.Lagos has a monopoly because IN NIGERIA there is no cheap alternative. There is no Lome,no Accra or Cotonou what we have is creeks and swamp. Lagos has benefitted from that yes but how is that any different from being the son of a rich man it requires no effort to do that but it certainly is no reason to be ashamed

Calabar was the first choice location for capital but because the British was at war with the Germans who controlled Cameroon during the first world war, they were forced to move the capital to lagos to avoid invasion by the german troops stationed in Cameroon. This little move changed the eastern region forever.

omonnakoda:
I always respect your opinions. Yes is has more to do with location ,at different times, equaly important it that the people of Lagos are not controversial, they are peaceful and welcoming.

The other factor is Nigeria is a big country Lagos would be nothing if it was in Gambia and when I harp on location I specifically am referring to the fact that we have about 800 km of coastline most of which is very very expensive to develop compared to Lagos

Come to think of it, it's probably more to do with its geographical features such as the lagoon. The British were doing short cut work in Africa unlike in India, so they were economical with their assets, and because west Africa was rough for them they kept their people together in a place with a shorter journey from Europe and made it their base. In a functioning society, Lagos and Port Harcourt would be on a comparable level even if Lagos has the historical advantage of receiving more advanced infrastructure and technology first and being the port of the British Empire in Nigeria, but Lagos' dominance and clogged and badly run ports isn't a triumph but a failure of Nigeria. The potential of the industries in the Onitsha, Nnewi, Aba are enough to grow into several ports.

Mumbai today isn't even India's third port in terms of cargo handled: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ports_in_India

ezeagu:


Your analogy is wrong, it should be rape. You're basically bragging that the British were able to colonise Lagos first.

Actually I am no bragging and that is the problem .The attitude you bring to these debates informs what you see or hear,

You are locked into an unproductive loop. Snap out of it.

Even the British were Colonized once by Romans


All I am saying is Lagos is like that girl at a party of 100 men with 5 girls and she is the most beautiful and SHE KNOWS IT.

ezeagu:


Come to think of it, it's probably more to do with its geographical features such as the lagoon. The British were doing short cut work in Africa unlike in India, so they were economical with their assets, and because west Africa was rough for them they kept their people together in a place with a shorter journey from Europe and made it their base. In a functioning society, Lagos and Port Harcourt would be on a comparable level even if Lagos has the historical advantage of receiving more advanced infrastructure and technology first and being the port of the British Empire in Nigeria, but Lagos' dominance and clogged and badly run ports isn't a triumph but a failure of Nigeria. The potential of the industries in the Onitsha, Nnewi, Aba are enough to grow into several ports.

Mumbai today isn't even India's third port in terms of cargo handled: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ports_in_India

If you want to debate how to make Nigeria work I am at home. Lagos like London is a gateway to the country.

Let us pause and think for a moment bout alternatives in Nigeria

I do not think there re many on cultural grounds.What do I mean? I mean the acceptance and freedom given to non natives. That is the real strength of Lagos. What we need to do is allow others to feel at hoe in Lagos which I advocate. If you are prepared to learn Yoruba no matter where you come from you can govern Lagos.

If Lagos was not totally surrounded by Yoruba states I would argue otherwise but it is so respect that and make your millions. More money going into Lagos is good for every body. There are no Yoruba enclaves in Lagos and one day we will have a No Yoruba Governor but he must speak Yoruba let others emulate that

ezeagu:


Come to think of it, it's probably more to do with its geographical features such as the lagoon. The British were doing short cut work in Africa unlike in India, so they were economical with their assets, and because west Africa was rough for them they kept their people together in a place with a shorter journey from Europe and made it their base. In a functioning society, Lagos and Port Harcourt would be on a comparable level even if Lagos has the historical advantage of receiving more advanced infrastructure and technology first and being the port of the British Empire in Nigeria, but Lagos' dominance and clogged and badly run ports isn't a triumph but a failure of Nigeria. The potential of the industries in the Onitsha, Nnewi, Aba are enough to grow into several ports.

Mumbai today isn't even India's third port in terms of cargo handled: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ports_in_India

We are building more ports IN LAGOS

Port Harcourt is not a good comparator.It is not even on the sea

Maybe Akwa Ibom or Bayelsa but those territories are too swampy ,too many creeks and too costly to develop

In fairness,considering the oil that has come out of there maybe the investment money should have been found but it is hard for a country with our population to think long term