Tornadoz:

Couldn't resist the aching urge to correct the myriad of falsehood being told here.

Let's see how you corrected my "false statements"

Tornadoz:

I-Man wrote
Yes he did but with strings attached,as long as African countries help him fight his war on terror.

How does this make my assertion about his tripling of direct aid false?   Your claim that it is caveated with conditions is besides the point.I even included a link that made the same point

Tornadoz:

Does this make sense to anybody?Why is this so? Maybe we ain't as stupid as he thought we were.
Are Africans so stupid that we will hate the man who tripled aid  to us while loving his stingy predecessor who actually cut aid to us? We can see past the token aid he gave us.

How does this show that my assertion that Clinton cut aid during his first term is false?  

Tornadoz:

USA Today recently said China's breakneck development affects American wages, jobs, prices and industries, determining who wins and loses in the U.S. economy.
It is now China, along with Japan, that is buying the U.S. treasury securities that enable the United States to run the largest fiscal deficit in history.

Does the above show that the US economy was not the fastest growing economy in the G7 over the past 4 years like I said?Or that the US economy is not growing faster than Germany and France(who didn't participate in the war)  and will grow faster in the next couple of years.

@Tornadoz
Which "falsehoods" have you actually corrected?

@I-man
The falsehood was you implied Bush gave more aid than clinton, in effect you meant we were indebted to Bush.
I corrected you by reminding you it was quid pro quo. He needs allies for his war on terror and we needed American aid.

Tornadoz:

@I-man
The  falsehood was you implied Bush gave more aid than clinton, in effect you meant we were indebted to Bush.
I corrected you by reminding you it was quid pro quo. He needs allies for his war on terror and we needed American aid.

That is complete twaddle.Every single American Govt has always tied aid to conditionalities,including Clinton's.Bush gives 3 times the amount of aid than Clinton was giving in 2000.You are not making any sense

Tornadoz:

@I-man
The falsehood was you implied Bush gave more aid than clinton, in effect you meant we were indebted to Bush.
I corrected you by reminding you it was quid pro quo. He needs allies for his war on terror and we needed American aid.

In what way did America need Nigeria as an ally against the war on terror? Did we contribute any single soldier in Iraq?

@I-man
If you are making sense, why not tell us why a republican president would care more for the welfare of Africans than a democrat.

@davidylan

In what way did America need Nigeria as an ally against the war on terror? Did we contribute any single soldier in Iraq?

Nigeria has more Muslims than any other African country, except maybe Egypt or Algeria. There were Pakistani mujahadeens caught in Kano etc.

davidylan:

In what way did America need Nigeria as an ally against the war on terror? Did we contribute any single soldier in Iraq?

The guy is mounting a heroic struggle against the facts.US aid budget has increased tremendously to pretty much every poor country on the planet,from Seychelles to St Vincent in the Carribeans.

Instead of conceding that point,you have him mutilating common sense.The fact that you dislike many of Bush's policies doesn't mean that you must attack every single policy,including the increase of aid to your own continent.

Tornadoz:

@I-man
If you are making sense, why not tell us why a republican president would care more for the welfare of Africans than a democrat.

My friend,hundreds of thousands of African lives have been saved through programs like President Bush's new $15 billion AIDS-fighting initiative for Africa.When people's lives are being saved,I don't think they are busy asking "why does a Republican care"?

Tornadoz:

@davidylanNigeria has more Muslims than any other African country, except maybe Egypt or Algeria. There were Pakistani mujahadeens caught in Kano etc.

What was your point here? What has our having more muslims got to do with Bush giving us aid? The mujahideen and taliban caught in Nigeria was entirely our own security issue, do we need to wait for American aid before we rout out terrorists in our midst?

did Bush also give aid to sudan, libya, Niger, Chad to help him in the war against Iraq? Was it not our muslims who burnt US flags and celebrated Sept 11?

@I-man
Why applaud a policy that's riddled with conditions? Why was Blair imploying him to join the crusade of alleviating poverty in Africa. Do you really want me to like a policy drawn up by neo-cons and approved by an immoral and insidious, evil mind like Bush. Not in a million years.

@davidylan
Lol! I know you have a confused mind, but I still expect you to post in the correct thread.
Whats this

What was your point here? What has our having more muslims got to do with Bush giving us aid? The mujahideen and taliban caught in Nigeria was entirely our own security issue, do we need to wait for American aid before we rout out terrorists in our midst?

did Bush also give aid to sudan, libya, Niger, Chad to help him in the war against Iraq? Was it not our muslims who burnt US flags and celebrated Sept 11?

I could take your hand and lead you to where that should have been pasted, but am not. Lmao!

Tornadoz:

@I-man
Why applaud a policy that's riddled with conditions? Why was  Blair imploying him to join the crusade of alleviating poverty in Africa. Do you really want me to like a policy drawn up by neo-cons and approved by an  immoral  and insidious, evil mind like Bush. Not in a million years.

You are beginning to sound even more pathetic.You sound like a classic sufferer of Bush Derangement Syndrome-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Derangement_Syndrome

Face it,you hate the man not the aid policy.

Tornadoz:

@davidylan
Lol! I know you have a confused mind, but I still expect you to post in the correct thread.
Whats thisI could take your hand and lead you to where that should have been pasted, but am not. Lmao!

Perhaps your problem is much worse than the bush derangement syndrome. I merely replied your irrelevant, completely senseless and intellectually bereft post. anyone with half a brain can see who has the problem here.

@I-man
I hate the man and all that he stands for (Right wing Christian hegemony).

Tornadoz:

@I-man
I hate the man and all that he stands for (Right wing Christian hegemony).

and yet the queues at the US embassy has refused to shorten. hypocrisy and denial are symptoms of BDS.

Tornadoz:

@I-man
I hate the man and all that he stands for (Right wing Christian hegemony).

So in essence,your posts are partisan and should be seen as such.Thanks,for admitting that.

@davdylan
Many Americans also hate him, does that mean they should leave America? Its called constructive criticism. I bet you can't distinguish between the two. Do you have to slavishly follow a man even though you know he's wrong? Are you a patriot police? Free your mind and your yansh go follow.

@I-man
So is yours. You have slavishly follow this inept president, unusual for for any rational mind.

I-man:

So in essence,your posts are partisan and should be seen as such.Thanks,for admitting that.

it had been obvious for ages. The way he kept dribbling around issues, disappearing each time his inconsistencies and lack of rational thought was pointed out to him and his heroic struggle against common sense game him away.

Tornadoz:

@I-man
So is yours. You have slavishly follow this inept president, unusual for for any rational mind.

IF your reasoning is an example of a what you call a "rational mind",then God help you.

To say that Bush has some good policies is not irrational.What is irrational and a symptom of BDS is to condemn every single policy of Bush,including the tripling of development/humanitarian aid to you own continent.

@I Man, so here is where we sleep now??

Tornadoz:

@davdylan
Many Americans also hate him, does that mean they should leave America? Its called constructive criticism. I bet you can't distinguish between the two. Do you have to slavishly follow a man even though you know he's wrong? Are you a patriot police? Free your mind and your yansh go follow.

You can't make such statements sitting in your bedroom in Benin city. Do many Americans dislike Bush's policies? YES!
But this same people will lay down their lives for their commander in chief! Hardly the kind of attitude you'd expect from people who "hate" him. Where you aware of the massive protest that followed Hugo Chavez refering to Bush as satan?
his brother Jeb was the 43rd governor of Florida state and the Bush family enjoys massive support from the American people!

And no when Americans "hate" their presidents like Richard Nixon, they make sure he is impeached asap!

Tornadoz:

@I-man
I hate the man and all that he stands for (Right wing Christian hegemony).

hardly what a rational mind would refer to as "constructive criticism".

Tornadoz:

@I-man
So is yours. You have slavishly follow this inept president, unusual for for any rational mind.

The difference btw you and I is that I do not adopt  a blanket approach to Bush's policies.Some of his policies,I agree with,some I don't.You on the other hand claim to hate every single thing.That is not a sign of a discerning mind but rather one of a closed mind

neelsel:

@I Man, so here is where we sleep now??

Sleep no gree catch me o especially when some people dey talk nonsense.I go soon go sleep

@davidylan

You can't make such statements sitting in your bedroom in Benin city. Do many Americans dislike Bush's policies? YES!

Well you answered it for me.

But this same people will lay down their lives for their commander in chief!

Only the uneducated. If they were qualified architects, doctors etc, their first port of call on leaving college won't be the army recruitment office. Ask John Kerry.

Where you aware of the massive protest that followed Hugo Chavez refering to Bush as satan?

I must have missed it. No

hardly what a rational mind would refer to as "constructive criticism".

Sorry but I reject both(Christianized or Islamic hegemony)

@I-man
Am yet to see where you did not agree with his policy. On another thread, you were singing praises of P wolfowitz (Bush's war minister).

Tornadoz:

@davidylan Well you answered it for me.

that americans are not happy about Bush's foreign policy strategy has never been in doubt. It is amazing that people as far away as Benin city are helping the Americans to hate their president. Compared to Obasanjo, Bush would rank as a saint.

Tornadoz:

Only the uneducated. If they were qualified architects, doctors etc, their first port of call on leaving college won't be the army recruitment office. Ask John Kerry.

You dont have to be in the army to lay down your life for ur president! The last aircraft meant for the white house crashed in Pensylvania because the crew and passengers chose to risk their lives and prevent the plane from reaching its target! If George Bush were assassinated in Nigeria today, Americans will not thank you, rather expect their bombs of wrath!

Tornadoz:

I must have missed it. No

That is why you dont just jump into discussions when you have no knowledge of underlying factors!

Tornadoz:

@davidylanWell you answered it for me.Only the uneducated. If they were qualified architects, doctors etc, their first port of call on leaving college won't be the army recruitment office.   Ask John Kerry.

My friend,the average American recruit is better educated than the average American.Even your friend,John Kerry,retracted his remarks and pointed out that he was talking of Bush.

Tornadoz:

@I-man
Am yet to see where you did not agree with his policy. On another thread, you were singing praises of P wolfowitz (Bush's war minister).

Health,immigration,energy policy,pork barrel spending,North Korea,e.t.c.

@I-man

My friend,the average American recruit is better educated than the average American.Even your friend,John Kerry,retracted his remarks and pointed out that he was talking of Bush.

Would you join the army?

Health,immigration,energy policy,pork barrel spending,North Korea,e.t.c.

Hmm

@I-man
This is off topic. Why didn't your friend Bush spend as much effort on North Korea as he is doing on Iran?

Tornadoz:

@I-manWould you join the army?Hmm

Irrelevant.Last time I checked,the US army surpassed its recruitment target for the second consecutive year.

@I-man

Irrelevant.Last time I checked,the US army surpassed its recruitment target for the second consecutive year.

With uneducated a*sholes, ask the inmates of Abu Ghraib.