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Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 10:13pm On May 19, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: You mean this one? http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/everlast-8oz-junior-boxing-gloves-131987?cm_mmc=PPC-_-Summit-Google-_-NonBrand-_-PLA&_$ja=cgid:18000973096%7Ctsid:49590%7Ccid:320438656%7Clid:18283950120%7Cnw:g%7Ccrid:57096822616%7Crnd:5121281427678534586%7Cdvc:m%7Cadp:1o2%7Cbku:1 Hahahaha an 8oz gloves is an 8oz gloves it's simple as ABC... please stop embarrassing yourself, you've lost. Just accept defeat, it doesn't make you a lesser man.
What? Did you just say this? Hahahahaha it's official, my man has more boxing knowledge than you. This unforgivable statement right here is conclusive proof that you're a boxing novice and all your boxing arguments are hereby rendered invalid
lol they're sparing partners and perhaps friends so they're not going to call each other out. Just stop, I'm wiping the floor with you. Please go upgrade your knowledge of the sport before we can have a proper boxing debate. This might be a good place to start http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/may/18/boxing-gennady-golovkin-willie-monroe-jr-floyd-mayweather-middleweight-wba-kevin-mitchell http://www.sportingnews.com/sport/story/2015-05-18/mayweather-golovkin-manny-pacquiao-canelo-alvarez-miguel-cotto-ggg-gennady-floyd-boxing That's an advice for Floyd to steer clear of that KO artist. |
Romance / Re: Miss Nairaland Contest 2015 - Elimination Round 2 by 50calibre(m): 8:23pm On May 19, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Word!! It's gotten progressively worse since them. The bad chics are no longer active on NL, no longer interested in this stuff or too busy with something else. |
Romance / Re: Miss Nairaland Contest 2015 - Elimination Round 2 by 50calibre(m): 8:00pm On May 19, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: I tell you!! Is this the best NL has to offer? Sorry to be blunt but these chics are not good looking, at best a few of them are just average. No chics with nice face or even nice body. Even a chic with a batty as flat as a pancake is proud to show it off to the camera shiiiiit!! It's a travesty to call this a beauty pageant and therefore in protest, I abstain from voting. I will vote when I see actual beauties. Please organisers take these little pubescent girls and bring me some real women with curves. |
Romance / Re: Miss Nairaland Contest 2015 - Elimination Round 2 by 50calibre(m): 7:44pm On May 19, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: I came late to the party.. Let me check the chics out first |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 7:38pm On May 19, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Lolz why are you doing this to yourself? You know quite alright you have little to no knowledge regarding this subject, why continue trying to convince yourself that you do? Ok let me indulge you for a moment. 8oz gloves are so small, they're more of kids toys. Here's a link to sports direct, you could order one right now for your little cousin. http://www.argos.co.uk/m/static/Product/partNumber/9267332.htm Now for someone like me who weights above 190lb, lacing those gloves (that's if they actually fit) and punching someone with it, it's guaranteed to have almost the same effect as bare knuckle. Here's a little glove knowledge for you, take the time to read it and be informed in the subject. http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-basics/boxing-equipment/what-boxing-gloves-to-use
What other evidence were you expecting? A signed contract? Did you read my previous post at all? I said he would move to light heavyweight if need be . Do you expect a fighter to just move up weight like that for peanuts? If the money comes correct, I guarantee he'd move up just for a single fight else why should he when he's not fought every challenger in his current weight class? Hence I said since Mayweather is the money man, he calls the shots and runs his own empire, he could offer Golovkin some good money to have him come down and fight him.. He doesn't need to offer him the world, I'm sure a meagre $5 or $10 million would do. C'mon tell ya boy Floyd to rep the money team
Lolz wishful thinking. Are you going to wager on Mayweather against that guy? Golovkin will hurt Floyd so bad, he may be permanently damaged. The guy is a stalker, he stalks his opponent till he weakens them with power punches to the body, to the face, arms.. everywhere.. And he's got a good chin too.
Carl Froch is a fan boy, a mayweather dic*k rider, it was so obvious on fight night. He's almost the same age as Floyd but on May 2 he was like a little 15 year old Justin Beiber fan Was he not the same guy who said he isn't an Ali fan... That's shows he's a man of poor taste.
lol enjoy you psychology lecture, it's for you, Froch and other mayweather fanboys besides have you ordered your money team T-shirt and cap? |
Politics / Re: John Kerry To Attend Buhari's Inauguration, Leads US Presidential Delegation by 50calibre(m): 10:39am On May 19, 2015 |
The election of Buhari seems to herald a new era of strong international relationships and respect. Buhari is not yet in office but he's already beginning to claw back the reputation and recognition that was lost thanks to Jonathan's idiocy and cluelessness. The international community seems eager to establish strong ties with the incoming administration. I can't begin to emphasise how big the US delegation is, even during the burial of Margaret Thatcher of Britain and even the royal wedding, the US never sent a delegation this powerful. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 1:31am On May 19, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Hahahaha you wanna pick apart someone who has pugilism in his DNA? Ok! I hope you know what you're doing. 1 - Golovkin is willing to move up to light heavyweight to fight Kovalev should there be need for it. He will inevitably move up anyway after facing every challenger at 160lb. Kovalev at the moment, wants no piece of Golovkin, apparently they're sparing partners and he can attest to golovkin'a punching power which will surely become more lethal when he moves up. Floyd on the other hand has faced every challenger in the 147lb category, Pacquiao was the last. Who else is there to face? He could take up the challenge and move up for one or two more big PPV fights but I know that's never going to happen, Mayweather is too smart and too much of a coward to step into the ring with Golovkin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9pi6uYm6Jk http://thaboxingvoice.com/abel-sanchez-says-golovkin-dropped-kovalev-in-sparring/33762?var=no http://thaboxingvoice.com/abel-sanchez-says-golovkin-dropped-kovalev-in-sparring/33762?var=no Golovkin - Kovalev will most likely happen sometime in the future, even golovkin's manager doesn't rule out its possibility http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/363731-sergey-kovalev-gennady-golovkin-anyone Or alternatively, since Floyd holds all the aces, he could make Golovkin an offer to come down to 147lb to fight him. It's very possible. 2 - Carl Froch was so star struck, it was so glaring and embarrassing. At one point, he was flattering him and when he realised Mayweather knew who he was, ohhhh! He became wet. Who told Froch wasn't star struck when he met Pacquiao? Well I can't speak about that, I only saw him meet Floyd. Froch's attitude is understandable anyway, given Floyd's flamboyance, it's only normal for a local champion like Froch to get carried away I'm sorry but all he did on fight night was ride Mayweather's coc*k hard. Sky sports won't be inviting him to anymore mayweather fights, he's a fanboy and couldn't give reasonable/objective analysis. If he had this reaction with bitc*h Floyd, he would have fainted if he met Tyson. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 12:25am On May 19, 2015 |
cap28: Damn!! the golden days of boxing... I really wish I was born in that era. This was when boxing was huge, being the heavyweight champion was like being the biggest celebrity in the world. They selected the toughest jungle to stage the fight with the approval of Mobutu Sese Seko. They said temperatures in Zaire were so high the fighters were already sweating before entering the ring. On Ali's way to the ring the crowds were chanting "Ali Bomaye" meaning Ali kill him. Today causal boxing fans want to see a man smooch another man in the ring instead of fight 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 12:05am On May 19, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Damn!! You don't give up do you? Are you seriously trying to tell you don't understand what I'm trying to say? Holyfield is broke, yes!! De la Hoya was a drug addict, yes!! Tyson is bankrupt, yes!! Holyfield fought Romney for charity, yes!! What relevance are all of these in this context, (context meaning "discourse" ) what has it got to do with their expert opinion? Its really that simple. Why the hell should Holyfield be bitter with floyd, bitter about what anyway? De la Hoya isn't broke so you grab at his drug addiction... Why are you linking up different unrelated subjects? Or is it just a desperate attempt to discredit their professional opinion? FYI Holyfield couldn't care less about Floyd, he was invited on ESPN to give a prediction before the fight and he gave an objective analysis but failed to give a prediction. Tyson don't get along with Floyd, yet they've hung out together, even featured together in commercials. Loolz. Tyson said (in his book by the way) that Floyd set him up in 99 .. Ok!! but it's funny how you chose to accept that part of his story which suits your argument, yet refuse to accept other part of his story. Lol The opinions of all those guys you mentioned, objective or subjective as they may be, they do count... after all they've all laced boxing gloves and fought professionally. Even the great Muhammad Ali tipped Pacquiao to win, so what? Your boxing argument proves you're not even a boxing fan, no disrespect but you know much less about boxing than I thought you did. You should have known fighters move up and down the weight classes (I even gave you examples) and no mayweather isn't a natural 150lb, he's moved up four or five weight classes so moving up isn't a problem for him. Canelo Alvarez came down to fight him, Golovkin I'm sure would be willing to come down to fight him if that's what it takes. Golovkin would pulverise floyd to dust Mayweather is no stranger to moving weights, he's moved weights several times, he moved weights to fight De la Hoya, Marquez, cotto... these are little things I'd expect a staunch mayweather fan to know. I watched Carl Froch's analysis on fight night and he was obviously star struck by mayweather even more so after mayweather recognised him. The guy was given the opportunity to co-interview floyd and he made a right mug of himself. He was given a ring side seat (something that's naturally out of his league) so what do you expect from a guy who's never had any major fight outside his backyard, who's biggest fight was Wembley stadium? We've obviously reached an impasse, neither of us would agree and you're also not making it a worth while argument by constantly evading the truth (truth i'd expect someone like you to know) and making some utterly ridiculous arguments. So I will leave it at that, maybe we can pick it up some other time when there will be real boxing fans in the house so we could see who's truly the "casual fan" When I watch boxing, I wanna see skill and intelligence but most importantly I wanna see blood, cut, punishment. I wanna see the cuts man in each corner going to wok at the end of each round. You want to see a man running around, baby punching and hugging another man fair enough!!
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Politics / Re: Pressure Mounts On Obama To Attend Buhari’s Inauguration In Person by 50calibre(m): 9:28am On May 18, 2015 |
Bunch of dreamers!! The chances of Obana attending the inauguration is zero to none. The security challenges presented by the Nigerian terrain at the moment is too immense for the secret service to deal with. A lot of people don't realise the complexity and planning than goes into moving a president of the United States. The amount of hardware that's moved alone will shock you. 1 Like |
Celebrities / Re: Davido Acquires A House In The US by 50calibre(m): 9:21am On May 18, 2015 |
Must have cost him just pocket change, houses in the states are cheap. Besides, I'm pretty sure he took out a mortgage on that house not outright purchase. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 2:53am On May 18, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Lol your links mean nothing, they have no relevance in this context. You're the only one connecting some imaginary dots here and trying to pass it as valid reason. I don't need any link to tell me what I witnessed or what is generally known. Tyson made shi*t load of money in his career, even as far back as the late 80s when he divorced his first wife, she walked away with more than $10 million. Any link stating contrary is nothing but bullsh*it, not even worth the click. Except you can show me where it's explicitly said that Tyson walked home with much less money than reported, then there's no point here. Tyson said everything in his undisputed show, go and watch it. He'd no reason to lie there. From what you've said do far, even almost going as far as saying Floyd Mayweather Junior is greater the great Muhammad Ali... It's already obvious you're not a boxing fan at all, just a Mayweather fan. Which is cool, after all the money team bandwagon is full of loyal supporters (including 50 cent who jumped back on the bandwagon after saying all the shi*t he said about Floyd... Talk about a man behaving like a groupie) Why can't Floyd go up to middleweight? That's very feasible than going up to heavyweight where Wladimir Klitschko fights. Roy Jones, Evander Holyfield, James Toney, David Haye did similar thing, even Pacquiao his nemesis moved up from 107lb to 147lb... Mayweather is almost at middle weight, he doesn't even need to add up to 30lbs to fight Golovkin, that should be easy peasy for him.. At least if he wants to silence the naysayers forever. Golovkin will fight Ward, and he would just be another knockout to his record. Forget what the Mayweather fans boys might say to hype their man, the boxing world knows mayweather will forever be remembered as a hype who not only ducked fighters in their prime but also ducked them in the ring by running around like a bitc*h!! The bitc*h doesn't even like boxing, he's given up his belts so he won't be forced to face mandatory challengers. Like tyson said " Floyd Mayweather is delusional, he's just a weak, little scared man" Hahahahahahahahaha tyson gave him a verbal KO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA24sDTpMuA As a big fan of the pugilist trade, I have zero respect for any fighter who steps into the ring without the intention to impose his will, punish and knockout the other man. It's very disrespectful of the sport. As a man, he has no class, I really don't get why most black folks are blindly rooting for him, he's not even done anything for black people, nothing!! Apart from floss his wealth, make blasphemous statements and be a cash cow for bitc*hes. Don't worry, your boy Mayweather would retire soon and all of you his fans would retire with him. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 6:23pm On May 17, 2015 |
cap28: Very insightful ShymmexOBE fails to comprehend the brilliance of Iron Mike Tyson... A man so bad they nicknamed him the baddest man on the planet. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 5:57pm On May 17, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: I'm back!! Anti spam bot banned me but I'm free now. You're making up ridiculous theories again, mixing up loads of things which are irrelevant in this context, taking people's personal problems and pinning it as a reason for their opinion... That's just ridiculous. Whether Holyfield is broke or De la Hoya a drug addict, that's completely irrelevant, they don't have some personal vendetta against Floyd. No matter how much you might want to deny it, their opinions count in the boxing world. The Romney fight was for charity, it didn't even last 2 rounds.... Another irrelevant point. You're the one grasping at straws here. Give me something solid not you're baseless theories or you can convince yourself you've won the debate. Grasping at straws again, are we? If professional boxing were about how heavy your punches are - then Foreman, Sonny Liston, and Earnie Shavers should be the greatest boxers ever. But they are one of the greatest boxers ever so what's your point? Ali who is widely acknowledged as the greatest, had reasonable punching power to go along with his array of skills and so did Sugar Ray Robinson, Jack Johnson and Joe Louis. Your boy floyd is just a baby fighter, he should be in the Olympics. I can agree Floyd is the greatest Olympian ever (he even lost his fight in the 96 Olympics) Anyway, how come ya Pacman failed to throw flurries in that bout, since that's what he's about? And how come Mayweather threw and landed more punches than? I guess the effective straight rights and jabs kept him at bay. If they were "baby punches", why didn't Pacman walk through them? He unleashed vicious flurries on Mayweather, didn't you watch the fight? Mayweather was doing a Usain Bolt and Pacquiao was chasing him around. Brev, the more you post, the more obvious it's that you're a casual boxing fan...thus adding credence to my assertion that you don't really know much about the sweet science. Nah bruv!! Based on some of the things I've seen you say here, you're the casual boxing fan here. In fact I dare say you're more of a Mayweather fan than a boxing fan. Iv heard countless debates with mayweather fans, I've listen to different types of mayweather fans, ranging from the sentimental/biased ones to the ones who truely believe he's that great but none of them has ever over-exaggerated his abilities as much as you've done, nor uttered some downright blasphemous statements like you have e.g "Tyson never had more than $20 million his account". . This statement right here is irrefutable proof that you're still a boxing newbie of the Mayweather era because no boxing fan of the 90s could have said this. So I won't even bother arguing this. Yes, he took punishments on purpose to ware his opponents out, but look at where that got him with the Parkinson's disease. I bet Ali wished he never took those punishments. Of course I respect the legend, the legend of Mayweather the escape artist, the Houdini of boxing.. That I respect him for, not his boxing. Like I said before, I don't have any problem with being defensive, I would also try to avoid punishment if I was a boxer. What I have problems with is running and not fighting. I think that's long overdue. We boxing purists aren't fans of folks destroying themselves in the sweet science. It's about exhibiting skills and high ring IQ, not brutish and animalistic behaviour. Lool you not even a boxing purist. Well I guess they could invent virtual boxing so the risk of damage would be completely eliminated. Boxing is a brute sport, that's the undeniable reality, a sport where two people lace gloves and try to punch each other on the face, is a brute sport. IQ only makes is better to watch. Bwahahahahahahaha. You mean the Physician they paid? So you actually believe a person with a tear in his shoulder would be able throw the flurries Pacman threw in the 4th and 6th round of that fight? The same injury that made Vitali Klitschko retire from his fight against Chris Byrd, despite winning handily before he had the tear? If you believe that, then you will believe that pigs do fly - hysterical. You were the accountant who paid the physician right? Loool Pacquiao was denied an anti-inflammatory shot before the fight by the boxing commission because he his team failed to tick the appropriate box. His injury occurred in training, it's well documented and he's undergone surgery to repair it which would keep him out for a year. Again!! No point here You mean the same Pacman who was put to sleep by Marquez with a straight right, no? The same Marquez Mayweather schooled like an amateur? Pacman's claim to fame was steroid - he has been a bum since he stopped juicing up. Lool another amateur comment, boxing (and sports in general) doesn't work that way. Frazier have Ali hell, even defeated him once but the same Frazier was pulverised by Foreman who Ali knocked out. Again!! No point here. No one wants to a see another one-sided rematch unless Pacman can agree to fight in his bedroom, with his wife and kids as ref and judges. That's the only way he'll have a chance. Then Floyd has nothing to fear, since money is his true motivation, he can as well accept a rematch and rake in more money. Mayweather wears 8oz and 10oz gloves because his hands are messed up - and with those extra fluffy gloves, you can't really hurt people. Pacman and other punchers wear the Cleto Reyes the puncher's gloves - peep the difference. Like I said, some things are better experienced that told, it's easy to be an armchair, Internet analyst but nothing beats a first hand experience. Visit that boxing gym I told you of and spar with one or two people, thèn come back lets talk. I've seen people tooth get knocked loose by amateurs with gloves, talk more a professional. Lol Like Mike Tyson turning into a cannibal and biting Holyfield's ear off, after getting pummeled, no? Just like your boy floyd sucker punching a man who wasn't looking and accepting it as a win.. What a puss*y Tyson took so much beating in that bout that I actually felt sorry for him. And Holyfield isn't even top-20 greatest heavyweight fighters ever. Yes tyson took punishment in the fight, that I accept, I accept when reasonable points are made, I try to be objective as possible. However it took Lewis 8 rounds to knock out an out of shape, lazy tyson. What do you think could have happened if Tyson was in his prime. Tyson took big shots in that fight, absorbed it and kept coming forward, tyson had a very thick neck which could absorb punches. You should know tyson was finished by then, he went on to lose more fights against epic bums Till then, just respect his hustle and the fact that he's not getting ra.ped like Tyson was ganked in his ar.se for his peez by Bob Arum and Don King. Of course I respect the hustle but that doesn't mean I can't speak the truth. Not surprised cos you're a casual boxing fan, not a purist. The same Tyson who ducked Lennox Lewis till he was broke and needed the money? Yet his ar.se got put to sleep when they met. The cannibal who bit Holyfield's ear off after getting pummeled? The same Tyson who was put to sleep by Douglas? You're repeating yourself now, your comments are going in a loop. You've even contradicted yourself here. Few posts ago you said you defend Tyson against people who think he ducked lewis, now you're saying something else. Which side are you on exactly? Anybody can get KOed, Henry Cooper Knocked ali out. Mayweather is way above him. Your comments are now playing on a loop All these guys lost to floyd because they weren't trained to chase after a man in the ring. Maidana punished floyd, hit him more times than anyone expected, backed him up against the ropes many times. Shane Mosley almost destroyed Floyd's face with a powerful right hand.... So much for the greatest defensive boxer. Pacquiao is greater than Floyd, mark what I say, posterity will validate this. Pacman has gone up many weight classes and won titles, he's fighting at 147lb which isn't he's natural weight and he's able to still dominate. While floyd a natural 135-147lb is sitting comfortably. He should move up in weight and face the new kid on the block Gennady Golovkin, lets see what happens. Note!! I've replied to your comment from yesterday |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 2:58am On May 17, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: All I'm saying is; you're highly over-rating Mayweather. I recognise and appreciate his ring intelligence, but I refuse to accept him as some business genius because he clearly isn't. Any athlete with money can hire a solid financial team to handle his affairs, that don't make him an Einstein. Even 50 cent who has great knowledge of the man doesn't speak so highly of his business acumen. Undefeated and he made all the great boxers in this era look like bums in the ring. Tyson never did that. He got knocked out cold by Douglas, a bum. Got his ar.se whooped by Holyfield twice and turned into a cannibal. Ducked Lennox Lewis for a long time, and got knocked out cold when they finally met. Which fighters did he make look like bums, are they the same ones he gave facials in the ring, the ones who came out looking prettier? Ok I hear you. Fighting floyd is very frustrating, most of these guys lose out of frustration, chasing a man around the ring is not what they trained for. Tyson made big scary men look like real bitc*hes. Tough guys like Holmes, Spinks, Berbick, even Bruno were made to look like women..... I don't think you knew Tyson. Douglas knocked out a tyson do what? Ali was knocked down by Henry cooper early in his career, that doesn't meant anything. For all we know, Tyson underrated Douglas and didn't train properly for the fight. Holyfield fought dirty, very dirty. He was known to use headbut people in the ring.. Tyson also said recently that the Ref in thir first fight (Mills Lane I think) came into the ring drunk Tyson didn't duck lewis, he just wasn't a big draw financially so he was paid to step aside for more lucrative bouts. You and I both know Lewis stood no chance against a prime tyson. When they finally fought, Tyson was way past his glory days, he was a drug addict, he was slow, he was lazy........ Yet it too Lewis 8 solid rounds to knockout tyson who was just a sitting duck after the first two rounds. Do you think the boxing world gives hails that Lewis win as a great win? Hell no!! Nobody cares about age - it's about longevity and body of work. If it were about the age you became a superstar, Robinho should be one of the greatest footballers ever right now. Lennox Lewis was a late bloomer, but that didn't stop him from being greater than Mike Tyson. You're having a laugh now ain't you? Age matters so much in sport, I can't emphasise it enough. No football club will splash out on a 30+ Year old dude no matter how good he is. Robinho been in his prime young years wasn't considered the best. He was behind the shadow of Ronaldinho and kaka. In what universe is Lennox Lewis greater than Mike Tyson? Nah!! You're definitely having a laugh But you never answered my question. Is Tyson greater than Frazier since they were about the same height cos you made excuse for Tyson's height? The difference in eras make it hard to compare but in some regards, of course Tyson is greater than Frazier. Don't forget Frazier's son faced Tyson early in his career and got pulverised in epic fashion. How about list those he ducked? He never ducked anyone - they ducked him (Sugar Shane Mosley, Kostya Tszyu). And he did beat everyone they put in-front of him, hence he's undefeated. How about amir khan? How about Pacquiao? He basically waited till Pacquiao was diminished before facing him. Same thing he did with De la Hoya and Cotto. How about Floyd move up in weight class and face a knock out artist like Golovkin, just to prove his greatness? But Tyson ducked Lennox Lewis. What!! So a broken fist is worse than a broken jaw? I give up! Tyson isn't top-5 on the biggest punchers ever list. Really? So who and who makes the top five? We're talking about net worth here, not what the fights the participated in made. If that were the case, Mayweather should be in billions. Ok now you're being a comedian. Tyson made $30 million each for his fights against Bruce Seldon, Holyfield, and Lewis. Around the time he came out of prison, he had a net worth of around $200 million. Go and watch his undisputed show, he said he had an account balance of $100 million when he came out of prison in 96 You're confusing career earning with net worth. Over Tyson's career, he made in excess of $300 million, most of which he lavished. A guy who spent a million dollars in a London jewellery store in the early 2000s... You clearly didn't know mike tyson. 50 cent said it in a jokey way clowning around, but Charlamagne gave it life by releasing those tapes. If it were just 50cent, no one would have bothered cos 50cent can barely spell as well - just check his twitter. Looool his twitter is hilarious I must admit but you're making excuses for floyd. He can't read else he should have accepted that challenge. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 2:11am On May 17, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Now you're making up theories Boxing isn't for the entertainment of casual fans - it's for die-hard fans who understand the sweet science. And we all appreciate Mayweather's style. Selling his style to casual fans would amount to trying to make the average Brits love NFL, or trying to sell Rugby to a yank. Ditto baseball and cricket. You have to understand it, to know the greatness. So the so called "die hard boxing fans" enjoy seeing a man run around the ring and hug his opponent for 12 rounds? In that case I'd rather be a "casual fan" for wanting to see a real fight. What Floyd does is not the sweet science, and will never be. You wanna see the sweet science? Watch Ali. He's the master tactician. The sweet science is about imposing your will on another man, making him miss while you punish him emphatically and show him you're the better man. Mayweather doesn't punish his opponents, he runs from them and since he found a way to fool the Vegas judges, all he does connect a couple of feeble punches just to win rounds... That's nonsense! But did he run around against Pacman cos the last I checked he threw/landed more punches than Pacman who was meant to be the aggressor and the ultimate brawler . Yet he still can't get his props from casual boxing fans, despite putting fear in Pacman with those two heavy straight right that landed effectively in the 1st round Pacman got scared after that lol. Ol'boy lost so terrible, he had to fake an injury after the fight about some tear in his shoulder - bwahahahaha. Who the hell throws flurries after having a tear? - But Pacman landed more vicious punches especially in the 4th, 6th and 12th round. Pacman was clearly the aggressor throughout the fight and all floyd wanted to do all night was run & hug... What the fuc*k is that? Floyd probavly thought they were on a race track. The Internet was awash with funny memes of floyd doing a usain bolt in the ring And as with all Floyd's opponent, Pacman came out looking prettier, floyd polishes his opponent's face during the fight, making them look prettier after the fight .... So much for the self acclaimed great. Pacman even inflicted more damage to Floyd with his fewer punches than vice versa, go and look at Floyd's swollen lip after the fight. Do you think Floyd could have won that fight outside Vegas or the US? The most important thing is the victory. Who cares about the opponent's face? So you mean you can leave an impact on a person's face with 8oz of gloves on - interesting. Of course yes!! It doesn't matter if it's a 8oz or 10oz gloves, if I get a clean shot at someone's face, it's impact will be visible. If Pacquiao at 145lb can do that, anyone above that weight with reasonable punching power can. Floyd's hands are so weak, I'd allow him punch me for fun. Well, that's why boxing is called sweet science and not brawling. You win by points. Yes!! In the Olympic though It had something to do with the punishment Ali took in the ring. Don't forget it was exacerbated after his fight with Larry Holmes. A fight he should never have participated in. I guess he needed the money, hence he took the fight - and he was never the same after that. Yeah it exacerbated after that fight but ali was already Parkinson's-bound way before that fight so we can't say punishment was the root cause. Ali is not the only boxer who took punishment. Fair enough. But, this is about pure boxing and technique. So Tyson shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Floyd Mayweather when it comes to pure boxing. Of course he should be mentioned, he's a great of his era. I only have a problem when he's being mentioned as the greatest. You cannot compare the impact & significance tyson had on the sport and beyond to that of mayweather. It's just the truth! Isn't it shocking that Tyson didn't even make your top-5 - not in general boxing, nor in the heavyweight division (your list not mine). Yet you think he's greater than Mayweather - hysterical. Tyson didn't make my top give because the list is star studded. Your list is the same as mine with Mayweather to round up my top-5. Definitely can't forget how Joe Louis paved the way and broke barriers for black boxers. And Sugar Ray Robinson was pure genius. Sugar Ray Leonard did duck Hagler till towards the end of Hagler's career - and Hagler won the fight between the two of them, but the refs did him in. However, Sugar Ray Leonard had it all. Fair list, at least we mostly agree on this Stop comparing bums with Mayweather, mate. Marciano fought bums and pensioners. He fought so many bums and pensioners, he fought a lot of them more than once. That's how bogus his record is. You're funny! So Marciano fought bums and pensioners while Mayweather has fought real gladiators right? Give me one real, terrifying opponent on Floyd's resume As for Calzaghe, he ducked both Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins in their. He never fought outside Europe (90% of his fights were in the UK), apart from when he went to America to fight almost-retired Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins. And Hopkins did knock his ar.se out, the judges just cheated and gave Calzaghe the win. Joe Calzaghe won't even make top-50 best boxers ever. That's why I say unbeaten record doesn't make one a great champion. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 9:25pm On May 16, 2015 |
cap28: The death of Cus de Amato was the single most significant event which derailed Tyson's career. That set of a chain of events which ultimately deprived Tyson of reaching the heights he was set to reach then. From the introduction of Din King into his life, to his gold-digger wife Robin Givens to his parting ways with Kevin Rooney, Teddy Atlas and Jim Jacobs, Tyson was never the same. Then the rape conviction as well. I keep saying, Tyson under the tutelage of Cus de Amato was unbeatable. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 9:09pm On May 16, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Cool bruv!! You'd find my replies when you return. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 9:08pm On May 16, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Very well!! However, in this context/discourse - I'm riding with Mayweather based on pure boxing talent/genius and how he changed the game business wise. I'm all for black people creating their own wealth, and managing their economics - without being enslaved by the establishment. This is not the issue here, you're mixing the business side of things with the sport. Mayweather wins in this regard, not because he's that brilliant, but because he has brilliant a strategists in his team. Mayweather, despite being greater than Tyson in the ring - he's also greater than him outside the ring with the blueprint he created with Al Haymon. That's greatness right there. @the bolded, that's almost blasphemy. How is what Mayweather has accomplished in the ring greater than that of Mike Tyson? Tell me one unique feat or milestone Mayweather has accomplished in the ring? I never said anything to negate the greatness/legends of both Cus de Amato and Kevin Rooney (I think you forgot to add Teddy Atlas to the list cos he was just as influential on Mike Tyson as Kevin Rooney was). At least, that we agree on! However, what has being the youngest ever heavyweight champion and his height got to do with how efficient his style was compared to the pure scientific style of Floyd Mayweather? If height were to be a yardstick, then Joe Frazier was just an inch taller than Mike Tyson So would you say Mike Tyson was greater than Joe Frazier? And would you say the efficacy of Joe Frazier's style, whereby he takes loads of punishment was more efficient than peek-a-boo style? Mike Tyson was a brawler not a pure boxer, end of story. I mentioned that to highlight the sheer scale of Tyson's ring achievements, do you know what heavyweight champion at age 18 meant back then? Mind you unlike today where there are many titles, there was just one heavyweight title back then and to earn a shot, you had to fight your way to the top. Of course height matters a lot, in every of Tyson's fight, he stepped into the ring with a significant physical disadvantage and yet managed to match these guys and even knock out most. Same with Frazier, but he took real punishment from bigger guys like Foreman Floyd has cherry picked fights throughout his career, ducking dangerous fights and selecting fights that were good for business. I guess you never watched Floyd Mayweather before he fvcked up his two hands, hence he stopped going for knockout, unless he gets frustrated in the ring. Need I remember you that Corrales (a hall of famer), with his power punches, was the guy touted by everyone to beat Mayweather when they were both coming up (both were undefeated then). What happened? Mayweather knocked him out five times in that fight and Corrales' dad had to throw in the towel. After that, Corrales was never the same. Arturo Gatti was another legend in the ring with a big heart that was touted to beat Mayweather...but his ar.se was knocked out in the 6th round. This was the same Mayweather that broke his hand in his bout with Castillo, and had to fight with one hand - yet he won. Is there any boxer in the history of boxing that has ever done that? I never really paid much attention to Floyd until has fight with De la Hoya and that's because he was not a big draw till then (thanks to his style) Ali fought with a broken jaw for 13 rounds against Ken Norton... Again, nothing special here. Tyson never had the best punching power apart from Foreman even in the heavyweight division ever. Where are you going to put the likes of: Sonny Liston, Earnie Shavers, Lennox Lewis, and Joe Louis? This is debate-able but tyson had the best punch execution. I'm not sure Lewis should be in that list. Lewis was a late bloomer who never reached his peak or discovered his natural power till late in his career and even at that, Tyson was a better Knock-out artist than Lewis, and had higher KO % than Lewis. Inflation or no inflation, Tyson never made anything close to what Mayweather has made thus far. Check the PPV numbers. Mayweather owns three of the top-5 highest selling boxing bouts ever. That's enough to tell you who the king is. You're failing to take the times and inflation into account. Obviously, as time goes on new PPV records will continue to be set. Tyson had more big PPV bouts in the top 10 than floyd. Juxtapose that with the times those fights happened and see what they meant back then. Take note Tyson made between $300 - 400 million in his career. The whole Charlamagne Tha God thing about Mayweather not being able to read is funny, when the guy has shown afterwards that he can read perfectly. He had an off day or whatever happened, and Charlamagne decided to clown something as confidential as that. Err, can Charlamagne himself speak English and enunciate words the right way? Pot and kettle. Are you aware it's 50 cent who said he can't read? 50 cent challenged him to read a children's comic and he'd donate $700k to charity, David Letterman challenged him to come on his show and read in front of the whole America... Why didn't he accept? Loool you give floyd way too much credit. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 8:17pm On May 16, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: So going by that logic, Holyfield, Tyson, De la Hoya and the loads of other people out there who aren't fans of Mayweather's style are just casual fans too? Looooool I've been watching boxing from as little as 3 years old, I come from a family of ardent boxing fans, my dad, uncles are big time boxing fans, my grand parents knew Dick Tiger. I know what the sweet science is, and what floyd does is not the sweet science. Even Lennox Lewis the self-styled pugilist specialist and advocate of the sweet science, agrees Floyd's style is boring. Effective but unentertaining. Let me break it down for you: You're wrong!! I don't have a problem with Floyd not getting hit, I have a problem with running around in the ring like its a race track. Floyd has great defence which I applaud, but very little offence... Which is not what bicubh is about. Ali had great defence too but with a decent amount of offence. - There's something called compuBox, which tallies the total number of punches thrown in a bout - and each round is scored based on the effective punches that hit the designated areas. You don't win based on throwing flurries and leaving yourself open. Mayweather also mastered that, and he's calculative and extremely intelligent in the ring. Yet the opponent comes out looking pretty faced... Those must have been phantom punches because I know as amateur as I am, a solid punch from me will definitely have an impact on a person's face. I don't need any computer to tell me what I'm seeing, Compubox can be saved for the Olympics, that's where points safety and scoring is all that matters that's why they wear head gear. There's a reason professional boxers wear just trunks and boots. Ali took a lot of punches, hence he has Parkinson's disease. Ditto all the boxers who either died in the ring, or have one form of brain problem or the other. And when you look at how messed up the faces of most boxers are, you can't but feel sorry for them. However, that's something that has never happened to Mayweather - hence he's called: the pretty boy. He's going to retire as the richest ever (he's already worth over $500 million), without taking too much punches. Why's it difficult to appreciate his genius? That's not why he had Parkinson's, he's not the only boxer who took punches, it may have aggravated or facilitated it, but never the sole cause. Many boxers took far more punishment and are still healthy today. Of course I appreciate the genuine of running around for 12 rounds and getting paid millions. That Houdini shi*t right there Mike Tyson was a brawler - not a pure boxer. Agreed!! Tyson is a brawler but guess what? It's boxing!! Trading punches is a fundamental part. Foreman was also a brawler and so was Frazier. Ali was a pure boxer, Lewis was a pure boxer, sugar Ray Leonard was a pure boxer. My top five pound for pound are Ali - His records in and out if the ring speaks for itself Sugar ray Robinson - Over 200 fights with over 100 wins in an era where the sport was as brutal as it could be. They fought 15 rounds instead of 12 Joe Louis - The first black heavyweight champion. Fought in a very tough era which had the likes of Max Schmelling and Joe Bugner Sugar Ray Leonard - had epic fights, great rings mastership, great footwork, technique and very entertaining I don't know who I'm going to pick in 5th position but Foreman, Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe, Hagler, Holmes,... come to mind by virtue of competition they faced. Floyd's unbeaten record is not unique, he's yet to equal Marciano's record. Even Joe Calzaghe retired unbeaten. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 7:40pm On May 16, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Hahahahahahaha hahahaha c'mon bruv I think you're being disrespectful to Tyson. It makes me wonder if you really were a tyson fan or had any interest in his fighting days. By diminishing Tyson's achievements in the ring this way, I think you're failing to acknowledge the genius of legendary Cus de Amato and Kevin Rooney. Need I remind you Tyson was and still is the youngest heavyweight champion of all time. You also fail to recognise the efficacy of the peek-boo-style, a style tailor fitted for shorter fighters and nicely perfected (along with the bob-and - weave) by Tyson which enabled him chop down taller heavyweights like trees. The impact of Tyson's reign of terror in the HW division will far outlive anything Floyd has done or will ever do. Tyson had great punching technique as well as dynamics (perhaps the best we will ever see). What about punching power? He was pulverising (only Foreman could stand up to him in this regard). This was a guy with very short hands but yet could connect with jaws of 6 ft 2+ guys with vicious hooks and uppercuts. You're mixing the business side of things with ring affairs. Tyson was an idio*t outside the ring while mayweather (thanks to al haymon and his team) is a much smarter business man..... We live in different times but don't forget Tyson earned more money in his career than Floyd has so far... Then if you take inflation into account, the figure goes even higher. Both men have their demons, I however couldn't care about that, I'm more concerned with ring matters, and tyson wins every time for me, his ferocity and brutality in the ring are part of the things which shaped my childhood. Tyson has a lips, Mayweather can't read You see! Everyman has his flaws. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 6:56pm On May 16, 2015 |
cap28: Spot on!!! I couldn't agree more. That's what I've tried explaining to ShymmexOBE but he's too much of a Mayweather fan to see it or admit it. Don't get it twisted, I'm also a mayweather fan, there's something to appreciate about a brother who takes charge of his own career and dictate his terms but that's not to say I consider him to be in greatest.... far from it. There's no gainsaying the fact Mayweather is very good at what he does but do I enjoy his fight style? No! Has he done anything spectacular to earn him a spot in the top 5 all time greats? No!! (Unbeaten records are not what make greats, as a matter of fact, most great fighters lost fights in their career) Is his style entertaining or good for boxing? An emphatic No!! and I think it is downright blasphemous when Mayweather fans try to place him in the same league of Ali. The era of Ali, Foreman et al was before my time but I was old enough to watch Tyson in his prime years and I can tell you for sure that Mayweather is no where near the reputation, acclaim or recognition Tyson had... This guy was a terrorist who had opponents shi*tting themselves before fights, so big was Tyson's popularity that my mum (who detests violence) knew who he was. Even the tyson haircut was big. Boxing has obviously changed a lot, the fact there are no more big pay per view bouts is testament to this. These days running around the ring is considered "strategy" if you ask most boxing heads to speaks objectively, they'd tell you it's bullshi*t. I guess I'm not a fan of today's boxing, the sport died 10 years ago. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 6:20pm On May 16, 2015 |
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Politics / Re: Egypt's Morsi Sentenced To Death by 50calibre(m): 10:50am On May 16, 2015 |
Just like Mubarak, he is going to appeal and the sentence would most likely be reduced. However, he is looking at very prolonged jail time. The Egypian system can be very brutal & unforgiving, they've made a scape goat of Morsi and his Muslim brotherhood brothers. A clear warning to others that Islamic fundamentalism won't be tolerated. 1 Like |
Family / Re: Wife Loses Pregnancy Of Two Months After Rape By Pastor-husband by 50calibre(m): 9:51am On May 16, 2015 |
Rap*e doesn't apply in this context. There's nothing like a husband rap*ing his wife. It's his wife. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 9:50am On May 16, 2015 |
cap28: Most rich folks are not looking for love, they're looking for puss*y which money can certainly buy. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 9:47am On May 16, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Hahahaha I don't think pre-nup is really needed in Nigeria, any man with money or power can manipulate the court system to get whatever he wants. There will definitely be a younger guy on the side putting in work from time to time. Lol the black ghost of king George V? I hear you. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 11:56pm On May 15, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Lol never say never, the black mamba never dies and if he needs any assistance, I'm sure Viagra or even traditional Viagra would come in handy. Exactly! This wedding is so hilarious, I pity the girl and her family. She probably doesn't intend to spend the rest of her life with this man. Just amass as much fortune as she can in the next five years, divorce his as*s and move back to her country to enjoy with a younger guy. Besides I noticed your new moniker, you've given yourself a new title... at this rate, you'd soon be a lord |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 11:35pm On May 15, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: Hahahaha true talk! According to Floyd Mayweather "Money isn't everything, money is the only thing" It must be a horrible experience for this lady though, imagine having to sleep with this type of man all the time with zero attraction and the man won't take it easy with her, he will totally go ham on that puss*y 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 11:23pm On May 15, 2015 |
ShymmexOBE: I swear!! This is the real beauty and the beast There's no end to what most women are willing to do for money. |
Politics / Re: Adams Oshiomhole Kisses Wife At Their Wedding (Photo) by 50calibre(m): 11:17pm On May 15, 2015 |
Damn!! This is a freak show Things ladies go through for money. I never knew beastiality was legal in Nigeria. Imagine that lady looking up to that face at night. Even the look on Buhari's face is epic 1 Like
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Politics / Re: Dangote,Femi Otedola,El-Rufai,Bride's Parents,others At Oshiomhole's Weding(Pics by 50calibre(m): 9:12pm On May 15, 2015 |
Damn!! I doff my hat to women, being a woman is not easy, I swear!! How would a pretty woman allow an ape-like creature like this mount her at night. He's also a dwarf loool Imagine this lady looking up during a love-making session to see a dreadful face slamming away at her.. Shiiiiiiiit! That's the power of money right there. This is the real definition of beauty and the beast. |
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