Apination:

Saying everyone is born an atheist is false. Everyone is born "tabula rasa", no belief, no knowledge.
Your answer is quite different from the question I asked, I never used the term belief system but just belief. If you understand what a belief is, then it would be easier to understand how atheism has generated into a system. Belief is the foundation to knowledge, and that which can be known has to be true but at the end of the day, belief doesn't amount to knowledge. But to hold a belief is to take a position as against not holding one at all which is in itself another position and that's why I said the denial of a thing is the creation of another even if it might not have been held before. The idea of God's existence necessarily creates room for the denial of that same existence thus an existing belief system necessarily creates an alternate belief system questioning and taking a different position from that very one. Atheists hold the following beliefs:
*God does not exist
*He cannot be seen
*There is no force acting on humans, its just us and us alone etc
If I walk up to 1990 atheists, they will repeat same thing over and again, if such belief isn't systematic, then what's it?

whitelotus:


That is a convoluted argument. The only thing that all atheists agree on is their disbelief in god.

How a disbelief is now a belief system is beyond me

hopefulLandlord:

While the person you quoted was wrong to have said we are born atheist. everything else you posted here are meaningless word games and strawman

Iloveu2:

You have not made any point though.

hopefulLandlord:
do I need to?

fieryy:
Since this is gradually turning into a rant thread. I want to rant about those, who always feel the need to preach to me.

I went to afroshop the other day, started talking to a guy who then asked me: 'Are you going to church tomorrow?'

I told him I was an atheist. This idiot accused me of worshipping the devil, said I was adapting a western belief and started quoting the bible up and down.

How am I adapting a western belief? HOOOOW?! When Christianity itself is not African!!!!

Iloveu2:


Except if you are not intelligent enough to do so.

hopefulLandlord:


I'm not intelligent

janettee:


Parents force me kee? Lool

My dad doesn't care about religion, has never cared.

My mum is religious too but then she can't force me to go to church. I mean my younger brother isn't forced to go to church either .

whitelotus:



I know. I schooled in Europe. I became an atheist my 2nd year in university.

Iloveu2:
Not difficult to discern.

Iloveu2:


As a belief system do a study on Russia, then you ll understand, how it goes beyond mere agreeing in disbelief in god. Infact, you will come to the realisation of the militant Atheists of Russia and a whole society built on such a belief system in the history of Russia.

Babacele:
ain't most Nigerians by our conducts atheists?

janettee:


Oh, interesting .

hopefulLandlord:
care to elucidate?

whitelotus:



I am tired of dating Christians. I want something different.

I want a babe who wouldn't mind a court wedding. I want a babe who can discuss with me on an intellectual level.

Imagine being oppressed with religion at work only to find that your partner is planning tor you to go to a vigil. You actually dont have a partner tha can comfort you in this overreligious country.


If your babe has ever tithed her full first month salary and became a dull time financially dependent baby on your account, you would think twice.

janettee:

You can't really change that you know .
I don't mind as long as she doesn't try to preach to me.

truthsayer009:


LMAO the fact non-religious people see religious people as non-intellectual people irks me.
Indians are very religious & also very brilliant people, Doctors, Engineers, Scientist etc. An average Chinese person who is a Buddhist is even far more intelligent.

I'm fully religious & I only want a Court wedding to be honest, It saves money & time, plus other logistics.

I have many Male friends who are not religious in any form & I have never even tried to convince them lmao, what's my business with their beliefs? as long as I'm not getting married to you, we're fine.

Yet i keep seeing people on Social Media saying they cannot find non-religious partners, are you guys living under a tree or what?

Babacele:
who steals money meant for the public and keep in a toilet while some imams or pastors gleefully look away as obtained here if not those who don't really believe what they preach: that God exists? what about exam malpractices, bribery and corruption, prejudices ,hatred and other vices despite our claims to religious teachings against these evils?

DMPaulSr:
True talks...
I myself is an apatheist... Quiet different from atheism in some way sha.. Just that apatheism is about, "if there is a God or not, we are not interested". I stopped disclosing my identity when people started avoiding me in school. One time last month, a guy called me a lost soul. I laff sha. Can't someone practice what he believes in peace? Nigerian Christians are the highest hypocrites in this world.. No Muslim will look at you like a demon when you tell them your belief...

truthsayer009:


LMAO the fact non-religious people see religious people as non-intellectual people irks me.
Indians are very religious & also very brilliant people, Doctors, Engineers, Scientist etc. An average Chinese person who is a Buddhist is even far more intelligent.

I'm fully religious & I only want a Court wedding to be honest, It saves money & time, plus other logistics.

I have many Male friends who are not religious in any form & I have never even tried to convince them lmao, what's my business with their beliefs? as long as I'm not getting married to you, we're fine.

Yet i keep seeing people on Social Media saying they cannot find non-religious partners, are you guys living under a tree or what?

hopefulLandlord:

While the person you quoted was wrong to have said we are born atheist. everything else you posted here are meaningless word games and strawman

whitelotus:


That is a convoluted argument. The only thing that all atheists agree on is their disbelief in god.

How a disbelief is now a belief system is beyond me

Iloveu2:


Read the highlighted below which I made in advance just to make you not become confuse but still yet,

DMPaulSr:

Btw I'm not here for argument...

AdekunleScience:
We are on the same page. I don't believe in supernatural stuff cause I am yet to come across a concrete evidence that proves the existence of such. However, even if there is actually a God, I simply don't give a fuuuucck. Humanity is all that matters to me.

DMPaulSr:
True talks...
I myself is an apatheist... Quiet different from atheism in some way sha.. Just that apatheism is about, "if there is a God or not, we are not interested". I stopped disclosing my identity when people started avoiding me in school. One time last month, a guy called me a lost soul. I laff sha. Can't someone practice what he believes in peace? Nigerian Christians are the highest hypocrites in this world.. No Muslim will look at you like a demon when you tell them your belief...

Iloveu2:


And except a baby is beaten they do not cry,?! Are you turning a blind eye to the simple fact that babies cry without being beaten and even more so because the seek attention. Don't be selective in your analysis by being divergent from the fact that IT IS NOT ONLY WHEN A BABY IS BEATEN THAT A BABY CRIES.

Even science does not start with a proof, it starts with a general statement called hypothesis which in this case unless you love to argue blind will you disprove that babies do cry to get attention for their need.

truthsayer009:


LMAO the fact non-religious people see religious people as non-intellectual people irks me.
Indians are very religious & also very brilliant people, Doctors, Engineers, Scientist etc. An average Chinese person who is a Buddhist is even far more intelligent.

I'm fully religious & I only want a Court wedding to be honest, It saves money & time, plus other logistics.

I have many Male friends who are not religious in any form & I have never even tried to convince them lmao, what's my business with their beliefs? as long as I'm not getting married to you, we're fine.

Yet i keep seeing people on Social Media saying they cannot find non-religious partners, are you guys living under a tree or what?

whitelotus:



I am talking about Nigeria. I will stand and say that the average religious Nigerian would find it hard to discuss liberal issues....how many atheist or irreligious ladies do you know?

Apination:

There's a difference between disbelief and a lack of belief. Theism and atheism are but two sides of a coin, heads and tail. Although but are on opposite sides but they make up the coin, you can call one a belief system and claim the other is not.