*Kails*:
blyss you have embarrassed yourself enough on this thread.
take your place on the side lines and never address me on this thread.

thanks.

Blyss:

My facts still stand on the genetic connection between the Igbo and BA people.

*Kails*:


the show is over...

Blyss:

Why? Because you've posted up some half-breed Jamo's, claiming them as being natives?

*Kails*:


once again you've epicly embarrassed yourself.
what does maroon jamaicans and the tainos have to do with the present topic (accuracy of claiming us as all or mostly igbo using DNA testing)?

please fvck off already.

your daftness is too much right now.

*Kails*:
interesting....






these dna tests will only show that there is some of a specific tribe in us (most common within the 5 generations which would then be compared to a living african on the continent to show there was a common ancestor) but it is impossible to state all of the tribes that make up who we are because we are too mixed up. It'll NEVER HAPPEN.

the only way anyone on our side could be all of anything is if their ppl stayed in one spot all throughout the slave trade, through the centuries and only married each other...this NEVER happened lol.

*Kails*:
interesting....






these dna tests will only show that there is some of a specific tribe in us (most common within the 5 generations which would then be compared to a living african on the continent to show there was a common ancestor) but it is impossible to state all of the tribes that make up who we are because we are too mixed up. It'll NEVER HAPPEN.

the only way anyone on our side could be all of anything is if their ppl stayed in one spot all throughout the slave trade, through the centuries and only married each other...this NEVER happened lol.

Josh090:
I think a sensible person will agree with you.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/next_steps/genetic_genealogy_01.shtml

Genetic Genealogy - What Can It Offer?

Genetic genealogy can reveal a fascinating picture of your racial origins - but how reliable is the data for the family historian?
DNA testing and family history.

You've seen it on television and read about in the newspapers, and it makes you think twice. The head of Harvard University's African-American Studies department takes some DNA tests and is startled to learn that both his paternal and maternal lines are European, and that he has as much European ancestry as African. An adoptee who always thought her family originated from South America takes a test and is pleased to learn that she's of Native American ancestry. Just what is 'genetic genealogy' and is there anything you could learn from such testing?
Simply put, genetic genealogy is DNA testing that's done specifically for the purpose of learning about one's heritage. There are a number of myths about the topic, and one of the most prevalent is the notion that it's the same kind of testing that's done for medical or criminal purposes. It's not.
The DNA tests used by family historians are more restricted, and in a sense, more innocent, than those you see on shows such as 'CSI'. If police wanted to use these tests to find suspects, they'd be forced to round up hundreds or even thousands of distant cousins. And although some wish they would, these tests do not shed any light on your predisposition for certain medical conditions.
Surname studies are by far the most popular application, but many are unaware that there are a handful of tests available, and depending on what you're curious about, one of the other options may be of greatest interest to you. For those who aren't keen on needles, the good news is that all commercial testing companies use mouth swabs, so the whole process is blissfully painless.
If you're already a family historian enthusiast, you may well ponder whether it's worth it. After all, the most popular tests run about £75-100. If any of the following apply, you probably should consider adding DNA to your genealogical arsenal:
You'd like to learn if others with the same surname share a common ancestor with you
You have a situation where the paper trail is iffy or has run out
You have a personal history mystery, especially one of those whispered tales of uncertain parentage (e.g., was Granddad's father really the wealthy banker your great-grandmother worked for before she married?)
You've been sleuthing for years and are ready to put your conventional research to the test to see if science reaches the same conclusions
You want to save time, money and effort in future research
You want to get an idea of geographical origin well before genealogical records began

Your testing options: Y-DNA
Testing your DNA is a straightforward process. As you would expect with any technology, new types of testing continue to emerge, but we'll briefly explore the most popular types available today, starting with the granddaddy of them all, Y-DNA.
Y-DNA testing uses the Y chromosome, which is only sported by males of the species. This has contributed to a myth that women can't play. Just as many take their first steps in genealogy by googling their surname, most venture into genetic genealogy by testing their surname - and I was no different. So when I wanted to test the family I was born into, I picked up the phone and asked my father to take the test. If he had refused, I could have turned to one of my brothers or a paternal uncle or cousin.
The reason Y-DNA is so irresistible to family historians is because it's passed intact from father to son down through the generations.
The reason Y-DNA is so irresistible to family historians is because it's passed intact from father to son down through the generations.
This is wildly convenient since surnames are passed the same way in most cultures. Barring a non-paternity event (yes, they do happen, so make sure you can live with the results if they surface a surprise in your family tree!), the surname and Y-DNA travel through time in tandem - meaning that every man walking the planet today carries the same Y-DNA genetic signature as his father, grandfather, great-grandfather, etc. He's a living representative of those who came before, so no - and this is yet another popular myth - it's not necessary to dig up the dearly departed.
Y-DNA: your results
Y-DNA is carried by men. Most of genetic genealogy boils down to a matchmaking game, and Y-DNA is no exception. When you receive your results, it will likely look like gibberish - just a bunch of numbers. Since it's still cost-prohibitive to test our entire genetic makeup, these tests rely on selected markers, which can be thought of as landmarks in the landscape of our DNA. Genealogists have piggybacked off the efforts of population geneticists who have identified markers that are highly variable - ones that are useful for distinguishing between peoples and even individuals. Your results will be presented as a number for each one of these markers, and it's these numbers (representing how often certain genetic patterns repeat themselves) that are used for finding matches.
This kind of testing can't tell you that your most recent common ancestor is your mutual great-great-great-grandfather,but you know for sure

that your lines converge at some point.
When you use a conventional genealogy database and enter 'John Smith,' the system looks for matches for each letter: J-o-h-n . . . This is exactly what happens with genetic genealogy, only numbers are used as the basis of comparison. Fortunately, all commercial testing companies have databases that automatically generate a list of matches for you. Provided you signed a release, you can then communicate with your genetic mates. Assuming you've joined one of the thousands of surname studies that already exist (try entering the following terms into a search engine - 'genealogy, DNA, surname' to see if there's a project for your name), you'll want to look for matches among your fellow participants. If you want to extend the search still further, you can enter your results in free, public access databases such as www.ybase.org, www.smgf.org and www.ysearch.org and look for matches.
So what does a match mean? It means you share a common ancestor with that person. This kind of testing can't tell you that your most recent common ancestor is your mutual great-great-great-grandfather, but you know for sure that your lines converge at some point. In most surname studies, clusters of genetic mates emerge, and these folks become your research pals. If you're especially lucky, you'll find yourself in a cluster with others who have already done a lot more homework than you. I recently persuaded a man named Jim Shields to join the Shields project of which I'm a member, and he matched another participant perfectly. The other fellow had researched the family for 27 years and knew exactly where Jim fit in, so Jim suddenly had 450 new relatives! And while I can't say this is an every day experience quite yet, the databases are finally achieving critical mass - that is, there are now enough of us getting tested that this kind of outcome will become increasingly common.
If you are contemplating a Y-DNA test, I would suggest that you select at least a mid-resolution test - a test with more than 20 markers. While tests with fewer markers are less expensive, they too often lead to false positives. You may match someone perfectly at 10 or 12 markers and both upgrade to 43, only to learn that you now only match on 33 of those 43 markers. In other words, your initial match was misleading.
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Testing options: mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA)
After tiptoeing into the world of genetic genealogy with a Y-DNA test, many become curious to see what else they can learn, so they move on to mitochondrial DNA. Many think of mtDNA as the maternal version of Y-DNA, and while there are certain parallels, it's important to understand the differences - starting with the mode of transmission. MtDNA is passed from mothers to both their sons and daughters, but the sons don't pass it on. This is fortunate because it means all of us - male and female - can take this test ourselves. As with Y-DNA, our test represents those who came before us, only in our maternal line - our mother, mother's mother, mother's mother's mother, etc.
...recent research has revealed that there's greater variety in mtDNA genetic signatures ... and this suggests that it will be of greater genealogical value than we had imagined.
But at this point, mtDNA is not quite as genealogically useful as Y-DNA. This is because it's largely been considered more of a deep ancestry test. If you're familiar with Dr. Bryan Sykes' book, 'The Seven Daughters of Eve', you're aware that the basic premise is that 95 percent of those of European origin can trace their maternal roots to one of seven women who lived between 10,000 and 45,000 years ago. When you take an mtDNA test, you're learning which one of these 'daughters of Eve' you descend from (and incidentally, there are about 36 or 37 on a global basis) - and most companies will provide a color map showing roughly how and when your branch of the world's maternal family tree (referred to as your 'haplogroup') migrated out of Africa.
That's wonderful to know from an intellectual curiosity standpoint, but it usually doesn't tell you much about your recent roots. My maternal Irish forebears, for instance, have passed the H haplogroup down to me. H happens to be the most common in Europe (apparently her maternal descendants were the most successful in reproducing, so roughly 30-40 percent of Europeans are also H), so I have literally millions of maternal cousins.

*Kails*:


^^that's what i said. i've highlighted my points in case you don't understand the point.
the black folks in the west with names like "eboe" are just as mixed as the rest of us.
not even they are only/mostly igbo.

we've been out here since the 1600s sir (1500s if you're caribbean - damn!), there is no way to only name one tribe as our ancestral group. DNA testing only traces back 5 generations and then they will claim the ancestry that comes out the most...but its still not enough to tell us ALL of our ancestry and it never will.

*Kails*:
lol @ go run away.

not running. i'm just through with the thread.
i've made all of my points.

PAGAN 9JA:



you dont have any points left!

*Kails*:


the show is over...

*Kails*:
Special big ups to the other person who liked my post. Im glad others have enough common sense to see and accept the truth.

Mrs.Chima:


Lol@!!!!!

*Kails*:




lol i have no time for these fo0ls, sis...
they need to do just that, GTFO THE STAGE!

lol speaking of which, you remember this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvVWpWbKoUQ

Josh090:
LMAO
Was he blind @ d time or what?

*Kails*:


My point exactly.
They've already been made idi0t.

Blyss stop DYCK RIDING. Youre mad thirsty right about now.
Its pathetic.

Francis youre very desperate i see. Lol showing igbo influence on jamaica only proves there were igbos sent there. Not one time have i denied this. But just as youve posted that, i can post novels worth of influence from the akan and kongo ppls. I can post about how,the fulani ppl shaped our culture...does that make us one or the other? No. We are a mix of ALL. You can get mad all you want and deny all you want. Jamaicans nor AAs are only igbo.

*Kails*:


My point exactly.
They've already been made idi0t.

*Kails*:


My point exactly.
They've already been made idi0t.

ezeagu:

It is not a one way thing. There are African Americans who know or have heard fragmented stories about their ethnic origin(s) like Paul Robeson and T.D. Jakes and claim it. I defended that eboe surname particularly because there are people from the Virginia side (and other places including Jamaica and Haiti, Barbados) who actually held onto their Igbo identity and passed it onto their children for generations. While it is obvious that many in the African diaspora are mixed or have multiple heritage, there are some that have decided to only claim a lineage, sometimes this is Igbo. It's no different to the equally mixed people of European descent who would simply say they are Irish and German, or just German, even when they may have some native and African ancestry let alone other European ancestry. Then there are those whose family have lived in small communities for a long time. I guess it's left to the individual.

Mrs.Chima:
Sis...now u r a black loser....weren't u mulatto akata a month ago??

Fake azz niggas