shegzbillionz:
oya take mic , tell me the good things in church

ictplotter:

I don't know for other countries. But churches and christianity in Nigeria is pure business enterprise.
1. They register their churches with CAC like any other business enterprise or organization
2. They have their patents right, such as logo, vision, mission statement like any other business enterprise
3. They strategize to get more members just as any business enterprise will do to get more customers.
4. There is competition and rebranding among churches, just like any business enterprise in similar industry.
5. There is board members or trustees in churches, just like any business enterprise
6. Both churches and business enterprises declares annual profit and loss at any given financial year.
7. Just as we hav online services for business enterprise, we hav online worshipping for churches.
Etc.
So which one is few among them? Which church today in Nigeria can be exempted from the above list?

BiggyB242:


When you identify it, then the church uses you to acquire more members. More money in their pockets.
After I read that a certain church sack its pastors because the church wasn't growing, I lost hope. The end goal is to make money for the church.
Pastoring is supposed to be a part-time thing you do because of the love for Christ, not a career the way it is done now.
When they need money, they organize a program and invite other men of God, who will finally do the billing probably the congregation has become too used to the pastor's face.

kjhova:
I was mid teen when I started to really questing the Bible, church and by extension, religion as a whole. My eager venture into my sciences triggered a reevaluation of the beliefs I held dear from childhood. So I asked a bucket load of questions which my church elders couldn't answer in any intelligent manner.

1) Who made God?
2) if there's a God, isn't that enough proof that there may be gods?
3) the universe is geologically older than the 6,000 years proposed by creation story?
4) how do you believe that snakes, donkeys etc have conversations with mentally healthy humans?
5) you do know that mental ailment is purely physical. How's Jesus healing by casting out demons?
6) what was the practical sense for Jesus turning water into alcoholic beverage at a party? To proof his messiahness or for show off?
7) Moses, Joshua, Gideon, Saul, David, Samuel etc seem to me like Hebrew supremacists and bigots who committed several acts of genocide and mass murder of innocent people. How are they saints?
Talking of Joshua. He stopped the sun from moving across the sky for 1 day? Are you crazy
9) If Bishop Oyedepo turned 1 shawarma into 2,000 basketful of shawarma in your presence, would you dare eat it? Is the Jesus story rational?
10) a whale had Jonah in it's digestive system for 3 days and he lived?
11) God and his arch enemy, Satan, really took a bet on Job leading to the killing of his 24 innocent children just to prove what point?!
12) God hardened pharaoh's heart, then ended up killing him and his soldiers for doing what same God hardened his heart to do!?
13) Moses had an israelite & his Medianite mistress murdered for breaking law on foreign women while he has a Medianite wife too??
14) Lot's wife turns into sodium chloride, all for looking back? Really??
15) specifically, why does a 33 years old guy have to be murdered for me to be saved? Saved from what, exactly?
16) Paul was a male chauvinist, and an usurper who never met Jesus. His conversion story seem more bullocks than credible.
17) what was the credentials for the "children" of israel being ordained as god's people and the rest of us, gentiles who must be wiped out to create "lebensraum" for the Hebrews?
18) creation story suggests that the stars hang in the "firmaments of the heavens" (AKA sky). That's easily debunked by any JSS1 Geography student!
19) who influenced David to conduct israel's 1st census? Kings said it was God. Chronicles said it was the Devil!
20) The crucifixion narrative of all 4 gospels don't rhyme! Either 3 are fade or they are all lies!
21) Give me biblical backing for having church denominations with papas and daddy and mummy GOs?
22) how's the bible creation story different from that of Odudua? Why do I have to accept theirs and reject mine?
23) when we do find proof of life outside this tiny blue planet of ours, would we need a "newest testament" to accommodate the expiration of the current one?

I got disillusioned with church before turning 18 years. One required a certain level of brain emptiness to find meaning in there.

BiggyB242:


When you identify it, then the church uses you to acquire more members. More money in their pockets.
After I read that a certain church sack its pastors because the church wasn't growing, I lost hope. The end goal is to make money for the church.
Pastoring is supposed to be a part-time thing you do because of the love for Christ, not a career the way it is done now.
When they need money, they organize a program and invite other men of God, who will finally do the billing probably the congregation has become too used to the pastor's face.

rollywise:








You expected the church to remain as the days of old? Go back to when the church had no technologies and all you mentioned, they were still castigated. When Joseph Ayodele did miracles in his Evangelical ministry, many said he was using juju. When Bishop Idahosa died, many said he pushed cocaine. The church has faced criticism since the days of John the Baptist

NOETHNICITY:
When I found Islam

Coming from a weak islamic background attended a Catholic boarding sec Sch and it was compulsory to go to church on Sundays. Although some students were stubborn and refused to attend, but I was always an obedient person.
After attending church the 1st I liked it almost immediately. I soon started speaking in tongue as we were praying. The next Sunday I attended without being compelled to. That was how I started going to church. My elder sister was also a practising christianity as she always had her bible tucked under pillow alws.
I left that sch as I was always falling sick and my dad decided he had had enough.
Coming back home, my cousin back then was a student of uniben and was really into Islam. So he started introducing us to Islamic materials and it wasn't long before we (me and my elder sister and our entire family) became very convinced and embraced Islam wholeheartedly.

shegzbillionz:
abi who no even exist

ictplotter:


Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. Its the unchangeable God. It remains same yesterday, today and forever.
If Jesus the head of the church as Christians claimed, is unchangeable god. How come churches are charges with technological and civilization trends? Pastors and members today, they carry bible again but their tablets with bible software app. Same tablet that hav all such pornograghy downloaded on it.

Yungdav:

All I see here is ur ignorance.
Pray for a divine help.

femi4:
I ve not....only spiritual illiterate stop going to church

rollywise:





I'll tell you the good things I see so you could see what you have seen that is good that you didn't know is good.
1. The messages of faith and truth, spiritual advices and prayers I get every service that I don't pay for
2. The true worship that lifts my spirit from my downs and worries
3. It moves my spirit when I see people if great Calibre submitting themselves to services to God in several departments in church. I feel humbled.
4. The sacrificial lifestyle of a true man of God, who gets so little but gives all his time, peace even money to the growth of God's work. Many are posted every two years unsettling their wives and children in every of those transfer.
I guess the things I'm mentioning are not the things you expected. I don't want to mention how much giving and lives the church has transformed from rag to riches, scholarships given, miracles performed right before my eyes (of which I'm a benefactor). I can go on and on

NOETHNICITY:
When I found Islam

Coming from a weak islamic background attended a Catholic boarding sec Sch and it was compulsory to go to church on Sundays. Although some students were stubborn and refused to attend, but I was always an obedient person.
After attending church the 1st I liked it almost immediately. I soon started speaking in tongue as we were praying. The next Sunday I attended without being compelled to. That was how I started going to church. My elder sister was also a practising christianity as she always had her bible tucked under pillow alws.
I left that sch as I was always falling sick and my dad decided he had had enough.
Coming back home, my cousin back then was a student of uniben and was really into Islam. So he started introducing us to Islamic materials and it wasn't long before we (me and my elder sister and our entire family) became very convinced and embraced Islam wholeheartedly.

Polynek:
Can u explain wat is like to be a spiritual LITERATE pls?

shegzbillionz:
sorry for you and your spiritual literacy....

oyem4u:


Stop wishing people bad

Irondome1:
na u go tear am abi?

Polynek:
Can u counter all He said pls?

HEAVEN4444:
take tissue boss

Nwaotu10:
My church people are horribly presumptuous and the gossip there is vicious, just vicious!

They gossiped I always wear a pair of black trouser to church every Sunday. The gossip was malicious, but I laughed it off. I'm sure God will bless me with good job someday and this issue of having one multi-purpose black trouser will be a story to tell. Amen.

Ayomivic:


Before I skipped church with silly excuses if I go today I will skip following week but now I realize how important it is to be in church every week.

Whenever I go to church the priest speaks as if he knows my problem and when I do something bad, that would be the area the preist would speak on as if he knows what I am thinking in my mind . I can now see that God speaks to his people

I also noticed that when ever I spent much time in the present of God or I do his work or attending church program or meeting. When I go back to my place of work . God always surprising me . I had learned that it is my duty to do that of God first and leave the rest to him. I had learned to stop worried about life as God have plan for me.



Iam planning on how to attend morning mass every single day. May the good Lord help me.

ictplotter:

I was a member of st Patrick catholic church in ugbowo. Benin city. It doesn't make any sense to me, why willl they go and buy mary and jesus image mounded with clay n trade by shopping ritual mall and place it within the church n people will go n bow and pray unto those satanic man made image called holy Mary and her son jesus.
So when i got admission into uniben, i hav a devoted muslim friend, who invited me to participate in their mssn uniben jihad week. Im glad i never reject the opportunity. Through then i saw the beauty n simplicity of Islam as a perfect way of life, Both in this world and hereafter. forget those media Islamophobia blackmailing . I accepted Islam and my life became balanced. Thanks to brother AbdulRasheed jatto and many others and uniben mssn.

femi4:
Indeed , my people perish for lack of knowledge

EkehPraise:
My relationship with God grew deeper and stronger and I realized that I didn't need to be in church to communicate with him so I started reducing the rate at which I go and sometimes the things my eyes sees in church settings these days are scary

EkehPraise:
My relationship with God grew deeper and stronger and I realized that I didn't need to be in church to communicate with him so I started reducing the rate at which I go and sometimes the things my eyes sees in church settings these days are scary

Polynek:
Can u counter all He said pls?

Yungdav:


Some of us are in similar case but don't u be discouraged,remember Mathew 5:11a
God will surely reward u someday if u remain faithful to him.

EkehPraise:
My relationship with God grew deeper and stronger and I realized that I didn't need to be in church to communicate with him so I started reducing the rate at which I go and sometimes the things my eyes sees in church settings these days are scary