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Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by PhysicsQED(m): 6:08pm On Oct 01, 2011 |
Chyz*: This is unrelated to your point, but it should be noted that this German map does not look accurate with regard to the Edo and Delta state areas. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ChinenyeN(m): 6:09pm On Oct 01, 2011 |
Nsogbu nu nkpa ke Ikwere karilam. . but whatever, Killayut should stop being so desperate to prove his non-Igbo heritage; even to the point of lying. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Chyz2: 6:27pm On Oct 01, 2011 |
PhysicsQED: Doesn't concern you my dude. Thanks |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Chyz2: 6:37pm On Oct 01, 2011 |
killayut: If the bolded is the case then I guess you now now how to speak fluent Igbo. What is the Igbo word(s) for " any material that is soft and watery or moist"? |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Bliss4Lyfe(f): 6:44pm On Oct 01, 2011 |
Quote from: killayut on Today at 06:10:38 AM Sorry Chyz but this one is too easy, POTO,POTO in Igbo mean the same thing as in KALABARI. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Chyz2: 6:53pm On Oct 01, 2011 |
Bliss4Lyfe: |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Nobody: 1:18am On Oct 02, 2011 |
All these major tribes think they have not borrowed nothing from their neighboring smaller tribes, I met an ONDO state man who told me A WIFE or My wife in his ONDO dialect is Eta or ITAH, ( may got the spelling wrong ) He said it is not Iyawo , I never argued but wondered how come an ONDO Yoruba tribe would have that word similar to EASTERN IJAW word for wife ? Eta ( ITAH ) meaning my wife, APPARENTLY some yoruba groups neighboring Ijaw communities may have borrowed words from the Ijaws. WHAT about Iroh ( to tell lies } in Eastern Ijaw IRO means to tell lies, Iro-nye or Iro-ye mean a LIE while Iro-bo mean who tell Lies, That was borrowed too from Ijaw, Consider this, in Yoruba proper BAJE means spoilt or bad, what then is the difference between Si or Shi and BAJE in yoruba ? cos Omo shi or Omo si mean spoilt being . SHI or SI is a proper Ijaw word, and it means spoilt the same word SHI or SI is also pronounced as Sei, a word borrowed by Yorubas. What about Suun or Suuhn ? This is a word mostly used in Lagos meaning shift or move forward ( suun mu ) in EASTERN IJAW, suuhn mean to elongate or to lenghten or straighten, to YE suuhn ma means to straighten an object then to suuhn ma mu means to shift forward a bit or move forward a bit, and that is pure eastern Ijaw borrowed by Yoruba. What about FEH, in EASTERN IJAW, to YE FEH means to buy, Mu ye feh ( go and buy some thing ) borrowed by Yoruba kilo feh ( what do you want to buy ), There are hundreds of Ijaw words borrowed by Yoruba, |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by tpia5: 1:28am On Oct 02, 2011 |
I think ijaws are the ones borrowing words from yoruba, not the other way round. Also, i dont know of any yoruba dialect that calls wife eta or something like that. Will look it up but i suspect the word you're trying to describe here might be aya- some areas use that as a shortened form of iyawo. I'm not too sure If maybe you're referring to ikale dialect however- where was the person giving you this information from. All the other words you mentioned (mainly negative i noticed), could be loan words from yoruba brought to you by your western ijaw cousins. The iyawo stuff in particular has occasionally been a sore point between western ijaws and your yoruba neighbours as some of you might know. Wars have been fought over this matter of yoruba wives. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by tpia5: 1:30am On Oct 02, 2011 |
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Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Nobody: 1:32am On Oct 02, 2011 |
Tpia I think ijaws are the ones borrowing words from yoruba, not the other way round. AYA is mother in Ijaw, infact AYA means motherhood hence to marry a woman is to Ere Iya and then AYA means mother AYABA pronounced AYAH-BA is Mother in Kalabari-Ijaw. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by tpia5: 1:43am On Oct 02, 2011 |
Aya is wife in parts of yorubaland. Iyawo is wife in yoruba. Ayaba means wife of the king. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by tpia5: 1:43am On Oct 02, 2011 |
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Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by aljharem3: 1:55am On Oct 02, 2011 |
killayut: sure Nigerian culture are mixed even to words but I can't think of a yoruba word borrowed from Ijaws None of those words were borrowed from Ijaws. Infact it is the other way around suun/suuhn si ebe means shift and it has been used not only by aworis of lagos but even to Okun people of kogi Itah/ eta can mean story/ chronicles. About the Ondo thing of wife being itah/eta is proberly a mistake wife can mean iyawo/ Aya also yoruba say iyawo mi atata which is probably what u heard and could not say it well neither could u spell it. IF IRO MEANS LIES IN IJAW WHETHER EAST OR WEST THEN I CAN TELL YOU THAT IJAWS ARE YORUBAS AND NOT THE OTHERWAY AROUND That I can be sure of and no kill me because i said it and also i am not claiming. Spoilt child mean various things in yoruba 1. Omo e baje ;;;;which u said correctly 2. Omo o[b]shi[/b];;;;;rubbish child 3. Most lagosian ie egun and awori people use Omo e ti yo idin ;;;;which mean the same thing also Kolo fe/feh is "what do you want" not buy Killayut maybe some word were borrowed from the ijaws. I can never tell since I was not born 1000thousand year ago or so but all this words you are using are used by yorubas from Kwara, togo, benin, kogi, some of this words are even used by brazilains and kiro people of serri leano. This are groups that call themselves yorubas and I am sure have not have serious interactions with the ijaws to the extent that they borrowed these words from ijaw people. I really think you should go ask your parents or elders to tell you the truth and beg them to stop brain washing you with lies. my candid advice for you as a friend and i am such you would appreciate it for life. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by aljharem3: 2:05am On Oct 02, 2011 |
Killayut those words like padi, mi , kilo she le, etc are actually yoruba words that krio people of serri leano use and they say they are related to yoruba examples of Krio pigin are. (Pigin english originated from there) and these words did not origniate from Ijaws bɔku (bohku) many, very much (< French beaucoup) padi friend waka walk Wowoh Ugly Rubbish botobata Example of there sentences are Ku[b]she[/b]. - "Hello." notic yorubas use kilo she le Kusheh Hello, Hi some yorubas use K[b]i/u[/b] she le/h or can be kisheh (when joined) Now go read about krio yoruba people and heritage |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Chyz2: 2:16am On Oct 02, 2011 |
killayut: Sorry bruh, mother in Ijaw proper is Yegi, nothing like Aya so stop lying. You are trying so hard to claim another group's language. Ayaba in kalabari means "mother of Aya"(you know this!). Why do you keep lying son,lol?. . .Dude, you can't keep living your life like this, man! smh. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by aljharem3: 2:21am On Oct 02, 2011 |
Each of the 250 or more ethnic groups in Nigeria can converse in this language, though they usually have their own additional words.[b] For example, the Yorùbás use the words Şe and Abi when speaking Pidgin. These are often used at the start or end of an intonated sentence or question. For example, "You are coming, right?" becomes Şe you dey come? or You dey come abi? Another example, the Igbos added the word, Nna also used at the beginning of some sentences to add effect. For example, man! that test was hard becomes Nna, that test hard no be small. Nigerian Pidgin also varies from place to place. Dialects of Nigerian Pidgin may include the Warri, Sapele, Benin, Port-Harcourt, Lagos especially in Ajegunle, Onitsha varieties. Nigerian Pidgin is most widely spoken in the oil rich Niger-Delta where most of its population speak it as their first language.[/b] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Pidgin language history of krio or creole people by Kiro professor[b]s[/b] in freetown http://etd.ohiolink.edu/send-pdf.cgi/Fyle%20Margaret%20Sophia.pdf?osu1243356678 Now you want to tell me 1. Kiro people too borrowed those words even though pidgin english originated from them or at least originated from hawaii beofre getting to them and then Nigeria ? 2. Do u want to tell me that brazilians too borrowed words from Ijaws ? 3. Are kiro people to ijaws now since you share words with them and the yorubas ? 4. Words that clearly did not and was never part of ijaw words are now Ijaw words by killayut, so are you going to tell us how those words traveled to kwara, benin, togo, serri leano of all this are all pro-yoruba or yoruba groups groups ? 5. Killayut, Have you thought of the possiblilty that may be those ijaw words you think is Orignial Ijaw words MAY HAVE ORIGINATED FROM IGBO AND YORUBA WORDS ? Just the possiblity. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Nobody: 3:11am On Oct 02, 2011 |
ALJ HAREM said Each of the 250 or more ethnic groups in Nigeria can converse in this language, though they usually have their own additional words. For example, the Yorùbás use the words Şe and Abi when speaking Pidgin. These are often used at the start or end of an intonated sentence or question. For example, "You are coming, right?" becomes Şe you dey come? or You dey come abi? Another example, the Igbos added the word, Nna also used at the beginning of some sentences to add effect. For example, man! that test was hard becomes Nna, that test hard no be small. You be proper Kanuri man, Brazilians speak Portuguese and not english pidgin, KRIO is wrong way of saying CREOLE and Creole did not start from Sierra Leone, Sierr Leonians say Poto poto, wor wor, BO and they are all Ijaw words, There is no word in Pidgin that has Sierra Leonian dialect, The British and French first came to the Bight of Bonny, use your head, WHEN they met the Niger Delta people they never used sign language for ever, The Western Cameroun and Niger Delta was where Pidgin started and thats why PIDGIN is a mixture of French and English words, ATLEAST the original first pidgin english, When I was a kid, we said Bo and not Jor, Leave me bo ( and not leave me jor ) I must admit a lot of Yoruba words have gotten in to pidgin recently like shebi, jor, OGA, and quite a lot more . These words were never part of pidgin at least I know that very well and this should not be argued . Sierra Leone came to being when slavery was abolished and it was the abolition of slavery that took pidgin speaking slaves to Sierra Leone, The pidgin speaking slaves were slaves from Niger Delta who were rescued from slave ships, The frreed slaves were not slaves from the mainland AMERICA but slaves freed from ships, before abolition of slavery pidgin has started, PIDGIN started as a language spoken by the illiterate Niger Delta chiefs to their British trade partners, mind you slave trade was not the first trade. , Hawaian pidgin, Papuan pidgin are not the same with our west african pidgin, PIDGIN means mixture of european languages and other native language, and so there are DUTCH / ARAWAK pidgin, GERMAN / AFRICAN languages pidgin, Chinese / English pidgin, The freed Niger delta slaves from slave ships taken to Sierra Leone took pidgin there HENCE the numerous IJAW words like, poto poto, Bo, wor wor and others they use also, |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ChinenyeN(m): 3:17am On Oct 02, 2011 |
Ayaba is 'daughter of Aya', unless I'm mistaking. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Nobody: 3:18am On Oct 02, 2011 |
CHYZ said Sorry bruh, mother in Ijaw proper is Yegi, nothing like Aya so stop lying. You are trying so hard to claim another group's language. Ayaba in kalabari means "mother of Aya"(you know this!). Why do you keep lying son,lol?. . .Dude, you can't keep living your life like this, man! smh. This is the Igbo factor, They want to define your language that they do not even understand, My friend in my language AYA means mother, and AYABA means a mother that gives birth to you and My mom's name is AYABA and that is what it means, IYINGI that you spelt as YEGI is not a word but a sentence it means who gave birth to me, Iyi or eee yi, means to give birth to me, ingi means female, it then means the female who gave birth to me, Iyi ingi, but MOTHER as AYA is a noun, study this dictionary to learn our word http://www.rogerblench.info/Language%20data/Niger-Congo/Ijoid/Ibani-English%20dictionary.pdf |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Chyz2: 3:27am On Oct 02, 2011 |
ChinenyeN: You are right made a mistake with saying "mother of Aya". it is "daughter of Aya". Anyway Killeryut is a complete lie, either he doesnt speak his language or he's trying to fool those who are unfamiliar with kalabari language. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Onlytruth(m): 3:29am On Oct 02, 2011 |
I smell a rat once someone starts referring to a language dictionary to support his case. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Nobody: 3:32am On Oct 02, 2011 |
ALJ HAREM said Killayut those words like padi, mi , kilo she le, etc are actually yoruba words that krio people of serri leano use and they say they are related to yoruba LOL this man is seriously drifting, bro, you are right and you must know that those words are all KALABARI words, PADDI was originally PALLY it changed form to paddy over time, THAT GUY NAH MY PALLY, PALLY is a KALABARI word meaning partner, Ee kiabo pally teh ori na mu, partner with your friend and go with him, wowoh That you spelt is WOR WOR meaning ugly and it is a KALABARI word, wor wor is actually the childish way of expressing it, said by kids mostly or said to kids for them to avoid touching , In KALABARI to kini wor-lo means to disdain some one or to make some one look bad or ugly to kini wor-ree means to insult some one to to run some one down, to negate a persons personality which means to dirty persons image. You this wor wor person actually means you this filty person ( worth less person) your wor wor ways, you too wor wor, these wor wor people, WAKA is actually from the words walk out, walk out from the door mouth became waka from dormot by illiterates to waka is to walk out domot= door mouth. Speaking yoruba does not make you speak pidgin, kilon shele is not pidgin but pure yoruba, and Yoruba does not come to play WHEN PIDGIN IS mentioned, Yoruba are new speakers of pidgin, pidgin started since the 16th century and kings like king JAJA, PEREKULE, AMACHREE spoke pidgin, they existed way way before OGUNDE's father was born, |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Chyz2: 3:37am On Oct 02, 2011 |
killayut: Sorry again dude, why are you now claiming Ibani as your langauge? I thought you were kalabari? You are still wrong you cannot use Ibani to suit your argument when kalabari is YOUR language and the one YOU were using as a tool for argument. Aya has a totally different meaning in kalabari, in fact, in Ibani, Aya still doesn't even mean mother,lol. Now back to Aya in kalabari is not mother: http://www.rogerblench.info/Language%20data/Niger-Congo/Ijoid/Kalabari%20dictionary.pdf |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Chyz2: 3:41am On Oct 02, 2011 |
@killeryut, if you use Aya as mother, yourself, then it is more than likely a borrowed word because clearly it aint mother, even YOUR link proves that. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Onlytruth(m): 3:45am On Oct 02, 2011 |
I'll say it again, do I need an Igbo dictionary to prove my point about Igbo language? HECK NO. So, once someone pulled Ibani dictionary to start proving an Ijaw word, I smell I big rat. |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Nobody: 4:06am On Oct 02, 2011 |
Chyz, LOL you Ignorant blob, Ibani and KALABARI are the same, every Ibani word is the same as KALABARI word and Okrika word, |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Nobody: 4:08am On Oct 02, 2011 |
This is another revelation of KALABARI -IJAW INFLUENCE IN THE CARIBBEAN land, This youtube documentary was done by a JAMAICAN and not even an AFRICAN, some one who without bias took his time to make research about CARIBBEAN patois / creole and got a finding, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PH1TvEE8Vw view the You tube and PONDER and agree to all my words, |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Chyz2: 4:10am On Oct 02, 2011 |
killayut: Must you continue to show your ignorance? Obviously you don't know what you are talking about since you posted the above.smh |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ChinenyeN(m): 4:11am On Oct 02, 2011 |
Chyz, you still dey mind Killayut? |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Abagworo(m): 4:14am On Oct 02, 2011 |
I've nailed killayut.He is not a kalabari man but is trying to annex Kalabari.Follow the link below and catch him being massacred by a Kalabari son.You guys should be quick before he modifies his mistakes.lmfao! https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-20932.64.html |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Onlytruth(m): 5:56am On Oct 02, 2011 |
Abagworo may have scored a bulls-eye with the link above. Here is an abstract from it:
Ouch! |
Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Onlytruth(m): 6:03am On Oct 02, 2011 |
Another upper cut.
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