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| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by PhysicsQED(m): 4:00pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Dede1: 1. The groups who claim migration from Benin are groups who speak Edoid languages or Edo influenced languages, of which there are said to be a few in Bayelsa and Rivers. Speaking an Edoid language or Edo influenced language is different from actually originating directly from the Benin kingdom, but a few people have adopted the tendency to claim origin from Benin if there is evidence of something linking them with the other Edoid groups historically, culturally or linguistically. Whether those claims are true or not isn't so obvious, but it is almost certainly true that some non-Bini groups in Edo (especially Edo), Delta and Ondo states have elements in their population that came from the actual Benin kingdom. 2. What walls are you talking about? A moat that had already deteriorated decades ago and is even overgrown with vegetation? Alonso de Sandoval's (17th century) word on the huge Benin moat ("walls"  means far more than your fanciful claims about an already eroded earthwork. It makes little sense to gauge the level of ancient development of a place by a disappearing monument.3. There are a lot of quotes from eyewitnesses describing the level of development in Benin. It is a fact that Portuguese explorers compared Benin city with Lisbon, Dutch writers compared Benin with Amsterdam and Antwerp, Italians visitors with Florence, and Spanish visitors with Madrid. A Dutch account claimed the palace alone was as large as the Dutch city of Haarlem, and a German account (1603) said the palace complex alone was as large as an entire German city (Tübingen). It's too late to reduce Benin to a level beneath what it occupied historically. 1 Like |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by mitofag: 4:17pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Indeed! |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Arosa(m): 4:18pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
The Walls of Benin was a combination of ramparts and moats, called Iya, used as a defense of the capital Benin City in present-day Edo State of Nigeria. It was considered the largest man-made structure lengthwise, second only to the Great Wall of China and the largest earthwork in the world. With more recent work by Patrick Darling, it has been established as the largest man-made structure in the world, larger than Sungbo's Eredo. It enclosed 6,500 km² of community lands. Its length was over 16,000 km of earth boundaries. It was estimated that earliest construction began in 800 AD and continued into the mid 1400's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walls_of_Benin |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by PhysicsQED(m): 4:23pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
^^^ Patrick Darling actually obtained dates going back to 700 AD (1300 years) and in at least two different places he explicitly states this. The dates he submitted to UNESCO (http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/488/) are 8th century (700s) to 15th century (1400s), not 800s to 1500s. I got into an argument with some clown in another thread who couldn't tell the difference between 8th century AD and the 800s.  |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by PhysicsQED(m): 4:35pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
mitofag: Indeed. Most of the descriptions of Benin by visitors are very positive, especially before the civil war that destroyed a large part of the earlier, older city (but even some descriptions after this event are positive). I found out about the comparisons from the article "Civil War in the Kingdom of Benin, 1689-1721: Continuity or Political Change?" by Paula Ben-Amos Girshick and John Thornton, which cites several sources explicitly. Here's the excerpt from that article with the authors' footnotes giving their sources: "BENIN IN THE SEVENTEENTH CENTURY Benin as it appears in documents of the seventeenth century was a wealthy and centralized kingdom. The natural reflection of centralized wealth was its magnificent capital city, one whose archaeology has only begun to be explored.22 Early European visitors never failed to be impressed with the city. The Portuguese compared it with Lisbon, the Dutch with Amsterdam or Antwerp, the Italians with Florence, and the Spaniards with Madrid.23 Its size was matched by dense habitation; houses built close to each other along long, straight streets. The royal palace, a city within the city, was also impressive, with countless squares and patios and innumerable doors and passageways, all richly decorated with the art that has made Benin famous.24 The city was orderly, well laid out, and sparkling clean so that the walls of the houses appeared polished.25 The orderliness of the town was perhaps a reflection of a highly restrictive bureaucratic rule. We use the term bureaucratic here to mean that state- appointed officials, often serving on limited terms and responsible to their superiors, formed a hierarchy that led to the king, which sought to control large areas of social, political and economic life. European visitors certainly felt the supervision as well - Derick Ruiters was given a 'guard' when he visited the city about 16oo, whose real function, he believed, was to prevent him from seeing too much.26 When a palace official decided in 1652 that the Capuchins were not to be taught Edo, they could not find a single person who would teach them a solitary word.27 Control was not limited to supervision of foreigners' movements, Dapper noted that the government had thoughtfully placed a large water jar mid-way on the Ughoton-Benin road, complete with a guard who insured that each drop of water was paid for by the thirsty travelers.28 P. J. Darling has suggested that the elaborate system of earthworks that surrounds Benin City for several miles in each direction and extends out into the rural areas might well be more for control of movement than for defense. These earthworks, which are not in use today and have no modern analogy in Benin, 'face both ways', thus preventing movement out of, or across, Benin as well as into the city.29 This interpretation is strengthened by Alonso de Sandoval's description of Benin's high walls, topped with thick vegetation and occasionally pierced by gates manned by armed sentries who demanded passes from all who come by.30" [Footnotes: 22 Graham Connah, The Archaeology of Benin (Oxford, 1975). 23 APF: SOCG, vol. 517, fol. 308v, Lourenco Pinto to Propaganda Fide, 28 May 1693 (Lisbon); for comparisons to Amsterdam, see the report of the first visit by Dutch to Benin, 1598 cited in Ray A. Kea, 'Firearms on the Gold and Slave Coasts from the sixteenth to the nineteenth century', Journal of African History, 12 (1971), 187; Dapper, Beschrijvinge, 122; for Florence, see Bonaventura da Firenze, 'Come entrb la fede di Giesu Christo nel regno d'Ouere per la Prima Uolta,' fol. 28v, in Salvadorini (ed.), Missioni (with original foliation of MS marked); for comparisons to Madrid, see APF: SOCG, vol. 249, fol. 351v, Felipe de Hijar to Propaganda Fide, 25 July 1654; de Sandoval, Instauranda, 78-9. 24 Dapper, Beschrijvinge, 122; de Marees, Beschryvinge, I I5a. See especially the reports of the Capuchins who visited the palace: APF: SOCG, vol. 249, fol. 328v and 35I (next folio of letter); and Biblioteca Nacional de Madrid, Antonio de Teruel, Descripcion narrativa de la mission serafrica de los Padres Capuchinos en el reyno del Congo', (c. 1664). This last manuscript contains a long account clearly written by or based on that of Angel de Valencia, a friend and companion of Teruel (but the hand is Teruel's throughout). It was subsequently used by Mateo de Anguiano in his chronicle (Biblioteca Nacional de Madrid Ms 18 178,' Segunda Parte de la Chronica , ' 1705) and eventually published by Buenaventura de Carrocera, Misiones Capuchinos in Africa, II (Madrid, 1957). Other elements of de Valencia's material are found in the Arquivo Provincial de los Capuchinos de Valenca, Jose de Alicante, 'Cronica de los Capuchinos de Valencia desde 165o hasta 1722'. Cavazzi's better know account in Istorica Descrizione de tre' regni Congo, Matamba ed Angola (Bologna, 1687), Libro V, contains no new material. An explicit reference to the art can be found in APF: SOCG vol. 517, fol. 3o8v, Letter of Lourengo Pinto, 28 May 1693. 25 Dapper, Beschrijvinge, 122; APF: SOCG, vol. 517, fol. 308v, Pinto to Propaganda Fide, 28 May 1693. 26 de Marees, Beschryvinge, I 15b. 27 APF: SOCG, vol. 249, fols. 332-9, [Alonso de Tolosa], 'Breve Successo de las Cosas Acontesidas en la Mission del Benin', 20o Nov. 1652, published with original foliation marked in Salvadorini, Missioni Appendix 4, and in Braisio, Monumenta 15, 634-39. 28 Dapper, Beschrijvinge, 122. 29 P. J. Darling, 'Notes on the earthworks of the Benin empire', West African Journal of Archaeology 6 (1976), 143-9- 30 de Sandoval, Instauranda, 78. The authors wish to thank Serena Van Buskirk for her translation of the Spanish text.] Unfortunately I don't have direct access to most of the sources the two authors cited. There are also some very positive descriptions of Benin in the primary sources about ancient Nigerian cities and kingdoms compiled and translated in Thomas Hodgkin's Nigerian Perspectives, which I have read. But that's all ancient history. What matters is the present. Benin and Edo state looks no better than anywhere else in Nigeria. 1 Like |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by dayokanu(m): 4:45pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
And what is ODECHUKWU retardeen doing about this or he is just looking like a confused zoo keeper? |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Arosa(m): 4:48pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
dayokanu:who knows maybe he is in support of it. |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by JimmyBoy1: 4:59pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
I really think Seun should filter-out all tribal comments from NL, this is our own FB for now, but I am just baffled at the level ethnic hatred and division being displayed by people who seem to be well "educated" or "widely travelled". An ordinary remark that requires intelligent contibution always gravitate towards tribal supremacy. |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by splitnaija(m): 5:17pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Batubo: I don't quite agree with the part in bold. I have a kalabari babe from Abonnema, the last time I innocently called her an ijaw girl, she almost cracked my skull with the bottle of kai-kai she was taking  |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by aribisala0(m): 5:29pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
for the clowns making fun of english usage; i understood his message clearly. i wonder how many of you can tranlate it into your mother tongues. i never see white men mocking each other for bad ijaw COLO MENTALITY 1 Like |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ChinenyeN(m): 5:54pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Batubo: Where are you from Batubo? |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Dede1(m): 6:26pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
PhysicsQED: Today’s Benin City can not be mentioned among the largest cities in Nigeria. In addition, there is no doubt that the present day Benin City is, at least, four fold bigger than Village Empire called Bini. If you do not discern element of exaggeration in comparison of Bini empire to the cities in Europe by the European explorers in order to quantify the value of their trip to Africa, I shall leave you with the hyperbolism. |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by PhysicsQED(m): 6:51pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Dede1: What relevance does this claim have to your original comment? Almost all of Benin city was burnt down to nothing in 1897. In addition, there is no doubt that the present day Benin City is, at least, four fold bigger than Village Empire called Bini. Uh, no. This statement doesn't even make any sense from a simple logical standpoint. Does present day Benin city stretch to Udo, Edo state? No. Did the past Benin empire stretch well beyond Udo, Edo state? Yes. If you do not discern element of exaggeration in comparison of Bini empire to the cities in Europe by the European explorers in order to quantify the value of their trip to Africa, I shall leave you with the hyperbolism. Many European visitors (including some of the writers who wrote about Benin) wrote about many other parts of Africa, especially on this same coast and did not make any such comparisons or give glowingly positive descriptions about the other places they visited. A German writer (Joshua Utzheimer) notes that the palace complex of the city alone was as large as an entire German city. Other writers point out that the number of rooms and courts of the palace did not seem to end, a Dutch visitor said the streets in the city seemed to go on with out being able to see an ending, and from this you claim that we should conclude that rather than them all seeing the same thing, they were all exaggerating, merely for the sake of it, since they were in Africa? And it would make more sense to show from the primary sources themselves that they must have been exaggerating based on their diction or exact statements, than to just assert that every statement from each explorer was an exaggeration. Unless you can read German, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, and Portuguese and have read every description of Benin, your assumptions here don't carry much weight. 1 Like |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ezeagu(m): 7:07pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Batubo: Tell that to Israel. |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ezeagu(m): 7:16pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Dede1: Why all this talk against Benin? |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ezeagu(m): 7:18pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
PhysicsQED: You're wasting your time. You honestly believe anyone in or out of Nigeria thinks of Benin as a "village empire"? |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by PhysicsQED(m): 7:24pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
I probably am wasting my time. I find Dede1's opinions interesting (however biased they may be) and that's why I wanted to see if he could really justify his perspective in the face of written evidence to the contrary. 1 Like |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by Dede1(m): 7:41pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
ezeagu: I have nothing against Benin or the empire but to point out element of exaggeration in certain historical records. To claim that Bini Empire was burnt down by British and at the same insinuates the palace alone was as big as German city of Tübingen is absurd. I guess the British committed serious and lengthy act of arson. Remember I read something about Akasa raid and the act of arson too. I remember some historical records informed that British burnt down Washington, DC. The only structure partially burnt is your guess. |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ezeagu(m): 7:51pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
PhysicsQED: I get you. Dede1: I hardly believe the Europeans aggrandised Benin because the journey there was too long. Did they claim that the Aborigines had flying machines? For one, they already had a bad opinion of Africa, and two I've never heard of anywhere else in Africa being compared to European cities, let alone by Europeans themselves. Benin then was great, actually very great, not so much now, but before it was much more than a "village empire", let's say the truth when we see it. 1 Like |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by PhysicsQED(m): 7:55pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Lol, Dede1, how big was Tubingen in 1603? Find out and maybe you'll see why there's nothing absurd about the comparison. Tubingen was never a small city relative to Germany's other cities, but it was never the size of the larger cities in Germany. So if the palace complex alone was as large as a regular sized city, then the city containing the palace was indeed probably the size of those actual large cities (Florence, Madrid, etc.) that those Europeans compared it to. Who said the Benin palace in 1897 was as large as the city of Tubingen in 1897 or the city of Tubingen now? I doubt that the 1897 Benin palace was anywhere near as large as Tubingen in 1897, but what I do know is that even the 1897 palace was at least four times the size of the present one, and that prior to 1897, the palace was even larger than that before a civil war in the very early 1700s. 'The walls of the palace are well preserved, In one of the facades at which Lieut. King entered there were three doors, of which the chief was in the middle; on each side were rows of eight or ten elephant tusks curiously carved, the points turned towards the wall. During the last insurrection the king was killed and a large portion of the palace was burnt down, but enough remains to bear witness to its former splendour. Down the centre of the facade rises a pyramid about thirty to forty feet high, on the top of which there was fixed a copper serpent whose head reached to the ground and whose body was as thick as that of a man. The inhabitants of Benin have no idea of the lapse of time, but say that this serpent has been there for several centuries. Two apartments which Lieut. King saw, and of which one was the audience chamber of the king, had been spared by the fire ; the ceilings were flat and the beams which crossed them were covered with various designs." It will be observed that King speaks of a pyramid, and in so far his description of these buildings agrees with that of Dapper, who, however, called them turrets. ' - H. Ling Roth, Great Benin A German, in 1603, wrote that the Benin palace in 1603 was as big as a German city, that he, a German, had been to, in Germany. That's just the reality of the situation. Anywhere in the world, palace complexes are not usually as large as whole cities, even if those cities are of a modest size, so that is necessarily a testament to the huge size of the palace. I give the Chinese credit on having the largest palace complex in history, but we are/were capable of the same kind of thing in Africa, regardless of what anybody might think or assume. |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by nasoeb: 8:06pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
The likes of dede, physicsqed, i will advise you go study your history before you come here to talk shitt. if you want to argue, then do it constructively. The Ijaws are located mainly at the Riverine region of Nigeria, these made it played a good port during Slavery. tak Taken Bonny as a case study, Bonny is a Beautiful Island located South South of Rivers State. it is compose of over 20 compounds, 5 Major. ( Pepple, Banigo, Hart, Greens, and Jumbo) During the slave era, The white came to the shores of Bonny and had a deal with the Bonny people oh how to supply them with slaves in return of food and material supply. In light of this, they supplied arms to the indigenes and mobilized them into actions. the rest of the Ijaw clan was considered brothers and they would rather not abduct any Ijaw born, and the easy-come by was the Igbo traders who majority came from Abia, precisely Arochukwu (typical example of these was Jwu-Jwu translated to Jaja by whitemen who couldn't pronounced jwu-jwu), they laid ambush to them, brought them back to Bonny and sold them. But the chiefs had the exclusive rights to selecting who was be been sold to the whitemen or not. So they kept some who seem sick or hard working for their house chores which could be replaced by new comers sooner than later. Jaja was abducted by men of Banigo Compound and was regarded very obedient and hard working and was after a very a long period accepted to make trade on behalf of the Chief where his name was translated into Jaja. he was doing this trade along side few other chiefs ( Chief Brown, Mack Pepple etc, ) And the female slaves which was taking care of the Ijaw kids weren't understanding Ijaw, so they were communicating by igbo the kids whose parents were hardly home. Thus, the kids grew up being Bi-Lingual (Ijaw and Igbo) thus why you can find handful of Bonny and Opobo speaking Igbo. |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by PhysicsQED(m): 8:13pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
nasoeb: ?? I'm not even discussing Bonny right now. |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ChinenyeN(m): 8:15pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Handful? Some Ijo are claiming that it's time to ban Igbo and you want us to believe that only a "handful" speak it? nasoeb:So they decided it best to fight war upon war with each other instead?  |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by nduchucks: 8:17pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
PhysicsPhD: A German writer notes that the palace complex of the city alone was as large as an entire German city. Other writers point out that the number of rooms and courts of the palace did not seem to end, a Dutch visitor said the streets in the city seemed to go on with out being able to see an ending, and from this you claim that we should conclude that rather than them all seeing the same thing, they were all exaggerating, merely for the sake of it, since they were in Africa? I'm not sure how one must not conclude that the above is nothing more than gross exaggeration. Dutch visitor said the streets in the city seemed to go on with out being able to see an ending What vehicles plied these roads? Were these people talking about trekking paths or roads? abeg make una no make me laugh jare Unending roads ko, unending paths to the bush ni  |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by nasoeb: 8:20pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Jaja being partially exposed to trade, now saw himself as an Ijaw man and started acting up by the back-up he had from the other chiefs. And when he was asked to stop trade which he secretly does behind the chief. The whole chiefs were force to summon him and banish him. the close proximity shared between him and the other chiefs made 4 other chiefs to join him to a nearby land which is established today as Opobo. Thus, BONNY, OPOBO are Ijaw Towns which fully retain its Ibani Language and speak igbo as a Business language which was common as the igbos were major traders with the Bonny People. You can even get the Nollywood Movie of this. it was done i guess 1999 or there about (funny enough most of those arguing are not up to 10 years) So you kids arguing, next time dont use Nairaland as a forum to exhibit your naturally inherited stupiidity, because we know you have it. get your fact and hit up am here to lecture you all kids. LONG LIVE IJAW NATION !!! LONG LIVE NIGERIA !!! |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ezeagu(m): 8:23pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
ndu_chucks: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Ancient_Benin_city.JPG |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by nasoeb: 8:25pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
@ Chinenye No am not supporting war. It will rather be disgraceful to do such as there is nothing honourable about it. I apologize on behalf of any wrong post by my brothers and sisters, it meant no harm just to crate homour. the igbos as well every Nigerian are our brothers. the Ijaw man is never angered easily but when provoked will go any length to achieve their goals. But once again i apologize We are One 1 Like |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ChinenyeN(m): 8:27pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
nasoeb, which clan are you from? |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by nasoeb: 8:29pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
Chinenye am your brother. As long as am a Nigerian. I am and will always be except that Boko haram they fall my hands 1 Like |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by PhysicsQED(m): 8:30pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
ndu_chucks: I don't really understand your comment. If a city is six miles long, and you are standing on the ground at about the two mile mark, are you actually claiming that you can see a tree or building four miles away? Do you have superhuman vision? Maybe you want to rethink your comment. http://books.google.com/books?id=Vrj4gApIJz4C&pg=PA178#v=onepage&q&f=false ^^^ The reality is, the city was, in the past "magnificent." As for the roads: "Here the women are employed in keeping the streets neat and clean; in which respect the inhabitants are not exceeded by the Hollanders themselves." ^^^ That's another quote about Benin. "Legroing tells us : " The city of Benin is situated in a plain surrounded by deep ditches. Vestiges of an old earthen wall are to be seen ; the wall could hardly have been built of any other material as we did not see a single stone in the whole journey up. The houses for the most part are covered with latanier leaves, and those of the king with large shingles. In front of the king's houses there were two thick clumps of high trees, and these appeared to us to be the only trees planted by the hand of man (Labarthe, p. 175)." From Landolphe we learn that a " ditch more than 20 feet wide and as deep surrounds the town, and the soil taken out is made on the city side into a talus, on which a thorny hedge has been planted so thick, that not even an animal can get through. The height of this talus deprives one of a view of the houses at a distance, and one does not see them until entering the town, the gates of which are very far apart " (II., 48). " The streets are very broad ; in the middle there is turf on which the kids and sheep feed ; about thirty feet from the houses there is a level road, covered with sand for the inhabitants to walk on " [ibid, II., 50). He also mentions several spacious courts surrounded by earthen walls about sixteen feet high. Along the inside of the walls there ran a gallery fifteen feet wide, thatched with natanier. The thatching is done by overlapping the leaves which not being pulled apart, fall one on top of another to a thickness of eighteen inches. This roof is supported by large pieces of timber cut into the shape of pillars. They are set up about eighteen feet apart, and carry stout horizontal planks on which abut the sloping joists which carry the roof, which was an ingenious piece of work " (ibid, I., 111-112). Of the apartments of the king's wives he says the walls are twenty feet high and five feet thick, solidly built of earth [ibid, I., 335)." - H. Ling Roth, Great Benin ^^^^ Another quote about Benin 1 Like |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by member479760: 8:31pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
The control over ownership of the oil reserves is the issue here, likewise, the bad policy of the FG concerning the ownership of natural resources. |
| Re: Ijaws Attack Binis Over Ownership Of Gelegele Land In Edo State by ChinenyeN(m): 8:33pm On Sep 16, 2011 |
nasoeb:I don't like these kinds of answers. They are non-answers in my opinion. I am Ngwa. Which clan are you? |
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