Will you be like the needy for helping the needy and not paying your tithe to the church? The answer is NO, because tithe was actually meant for the needy; the Levites (who have no land inheritance), the foreigners (because they have no land inheritance), the fatherless, and the widows, Deuteronomy 14:27-29, Deuteronomy 26:12-13.

Galatians 2:9-10
And recognizing the grace [that God had] bestowed on me, James and Cephas (Peter) and John, who were reputed to be pillars [of the Jerusalem church], gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, so that we could go to the Gentiles [with their blessing] and they to the circumcised (Jews). 10 They asked only [one thing], that we remember the poor, the very thing I was also eager to do.

From the above scripture, it is evident that helping the needy is one of the major things the apostles did while preaching the gospel. If this is so important like this to the apostles, then it means that God is very much interested in the affairs of the needy and has commanded the apostles to focus on them. The eyes of Jehovah God is upon the needy and those who help them. As the blood of the needy is precious in the sight of God to save them, so it is also for those who help the needy because God is watching over the needy, Psalm 72:12-14.

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Luke 4:18
"The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed....

Proverbs 14:31
Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honours God.

Jeremiah 22:16
He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?” declares the LORD.

Helping the needy is the purest and faultless form of religion before God. It is what the spirit of God is sent to do. It is what it means to honour God with your substance. And it is what it means to know God.

Luke 11:41–42
41 So clean the inside by giving gifts to the poor, and you will be clean all over. 42 “What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. Compare with Matthew 23:23.

Jesus told the Pharisees that for them to be clean all over before God, they must do something more important than tithe. They should give gifts to poor with what they have inside in terms of justice, mercy, and love of God. As we have seen, this is the purest and faultless for of religion before God.

There are many churches everywhere today but people still engage in so many bad things to survive because they (most churches) have departed from the foundation the apostles laid. God desired that his people become a holy people and to achieve that they should help themselves. He commanded them to do his will by helping the needy among them so that people will not go into doing evil deeds to survive.

Deuteronomy 15:4-11
....11 For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, “You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.” Read from verse 4.

The eyes of God is upon those who helped the needy to bless them. You can never be like the needy for helping the needy because you are giving directly to God and he will surely rewards you on earth and in heaven.

Proverbs 19:17
Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will repay him for his deed.

Proverbs 28:27
Those who give to the poor will lack nothing, but those who close their eyes to them receive many curses.

Acts 10:31
and said, ‘Cornelius, your prayer has been heard, and your gifts to the poor have been remembered before God.

From the tithe which was meant for the poor; the Levites, the foreigners, the fatherless, and the widows, Deuteronomy 14:27-29, Deuteronomy 26:12-13, to the helping of the needy in Deuteronomy 15:1-11, and to the giving and sharing of the new testament, 2 Corinthians 9:6-9, these are the will of God for righteousness to endure among his children.

But today, evil is everywhere. Even in the church, people are deceiving their brethren to survive. Everybody is focusing on only paying their tithe which will not take them to the kingdom of God. They neglect their brothers and sisters who are in need, which is the most important. The way to the kingdom of God is still through helping the needy (and doing every other things that is the will of God). Matthew 25:31-46 gave an insight on how judgement day will look like. The work of God and the teaching of the apostles is mainly about the poor, Galatians 2:9-10, James 1:27, James 2:5,13-17(You can read the whole of chapter 2).

James 2:5
Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him?

Isaiah 11:4
... But with righteousness he will judge the needy, with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth. He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.

Matthew 25:37–40
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ 40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

Not everyone calling him Lord Lord will enter there, Matthew 7:21-23, Jeremiah 14:13-16. To be on the safe side you must seek the will of God and do them. So if you have been deceived to believe a certain teaching and you neglect the more important things, those who deceive you will not put you in the kingdom of God because they too will be rejected. The word and the will of God here is clear for you to follow.

Read also Proverbs 22:9, Isaiah 41:17, Matthew 5:3, Mark 10:21, Luke 6:20, 1 Timothy 6:18, James 2:14-17, Acts 9:36, Proverbs 21:13, Matthew 6:1-4.

Originalsly:


The bolded is the foundation of your preaching. Regardless of who the man chooses to marry .... even if it's an active Christian prostitute... he should expect her to submit to his demands because that's what the Sripture says. If she doesn't... then she needs to be educated on her role as a wife with regards to submission. I hear you ... loud and clear ... and no doubt .. you are entitled to your belief.

Even if the person is active X10 she must follow the way of the Lord. The word of God cannot be bent and twisted to suit the way of prostitutes. If that is how your church train you to reason, better change church. By the way which church do you attend, does the name start with C?

Have you seen how I rendered your belief and the only point you have pointless? The only thing you have is now is 'you are entitled to your belief.' No single scripture. This should suggest to you that you are not in the right path.

baralatie:

Then why would there be argument between husband and wife who have faith in Christ Jesus over place of worship knowing that they were not attending the same church

The argument is due to lack of knowledge and the fact that some pastors, prophets and prophetess are encouraging women who are having this ssues with their husbands to continue attending their church. Some women follow these teachers sheepishly not knowing the truth in word of God.

That is why I prepared this topic so that wives should know what is right and what is wrong.

Originalsly:


If they are both Christians .... but going to different churches... why the discord? They can both call themselves Christians .... one a Catholic the other a Pentecostal... but they are unequally yoked because they have different beliefs. Two Christians can be unequally yoked ... same with two non believers.

Now that we are looking at two believers who are unequally yoked because the different churches they attend, the scripture demands that the wife should submit to her husband if he objects.

That's the essence of this teaching so that wives should see what is expected of them. Instead of trying to be overzealous, thinking they are pleasing God.

Mimicle101:


Today Sunday service is ended.

But you can search for it on youtube.

Search for

Jesus Christ temple Ministry on youtube. Look for today's message.

Okay, thanks.

wany:

Why will an adult stop another adult from going to where she derive joy and completeness.

True Christians don't do adult things. They do the will of God and are happy doing it.

It is only those who are not humble in spirit that want to do anyhow they like. God is not interested in the proud ones.

baralatie:

Do the husband and wife see themselves as the same believers in faith?

My brother, you are asking this question based on a wrong teaching or doctrine. it is very very wrong for a Christian from one church to call another Christian from another church an unbeliever. They don't have different faith. They have different churches and probably different doctrines.

baralatie:

If a man who is a believer of his faith and sect as correct,marries into a faith and sect that he believes is not correct.
Is that man not disobedient to his faith

We have only one faith. Faith in Christ Jesus who was sent by God.

Are you talking about disobedient to his church? Anybody has right to marry from anywhere. If his church discriminates, he is free to leave.

Lukuluku69:


If ever I decide to attend a Church, my views about life will be from the Scriptures and not what my Church think.

Also, the Husband Church could be preaching wrong doctrines and also wrong views about life, so why would/should the wife follow him to his own church?

Obedience to the will of God is better than sacrifice. Even those that think they are preaching and doing miracles were rejected because they failed to do the will of the Father.

She should be studious and focus on doing the will of God. She has her bible. I add in the op that what require from his children is not burdensome (burdensome doctrines).

Lukuluku69 post=1225499p17:


Does it matter? Is it not same Jesus that is being preached in those other Churches?

And how do you know that the Husband's Church preach the RIGHT DOCTRINES?

It matters. Same God but they are having issues? The real solution to those issues is what I posted.

I wrote out of experience. Though not personal experience.

geedee4real:
I am into this already and I need help! I am an Anglican! While my wife was born into the apostolic faith. She loves her church so much. While planning for our marriage I promised her that I will allow her practice her own faith. After our marriage I started attending same church with her but wasn't comfortable with their mode of worship. How do I withdraw from the church without causing any issue at home. Because I withdrawing means am withdrawing my kids also. Please I need advise

Good you kept your promise. But the children are not involved in the promise. If you wish to go with the kids it shouldn't be a problem for a wife who is submissive to her husband.

It will be wrong for her to start causing problem because of it.1Peter 3:7 said, such things can hinder prayers. That's why I said any wife making trouble her husband because of the church she attended is wasting her time. At least you allowed her to be attending the church she liked.

If any matter should arise, you can show her(and her pastor) these things in the op. Let them dispute it if they can.

sweetkev:
Opp, what if in a situation where one partner converted to Christianity while the other partner still remains in his/her religion. What's the one who converted going to do ?

This below is what she should do with prayers so that God will help her.

1 Peter 3:1-2 to 7
1. Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2.when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. 7...so that nothing will hinder your prayers.

It is not by gragra. Gragra by fire by force is done by those who lack knowledge of the truth.

1 Corinthians 7:12-16
12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?

Mimicle101:
If only most of our wifes and young ladies could watch and listen to to

16 April 2023 Sunday Service message


By Prohpet Amos Child of God of Jesus Christ Temple Ministry


Believe me many marriages and homes will be saved.

I encourage everyone to listen to these man of God teachings once.

Then come back and tell your thought.

May God have mercy on Us.

Where can I see the message?

TheGift:
Before asking the Woman to Obey the Man, is the Man obeying God? Before asking His Woman to submit to Him, has the Man submitted to God?

If He has submitted to God, then He will focus on the major of loving and cherishing His Wife as Christ loved the Church, by giving up himself and sacrificing for her. Rather than majoring in the minor of whether she comes to His church or not.

As long as they are both going to Bible believing churches, they can come back home to fellowship and share what they learnt from
Their various churches, and there will be peace in the home.

There is no excuse for not doing the will of God. Those who were doing signs and wonders in the name of the Lord were rejected for not doing the will of God, how much more someone that is looking at a man before he or she does the will of God.

You must be submissive to your head as Christ is the head of the church. You don't tell him to focus only on loving you and avoid things that will make you obey him.

My dear if he has issue with you going to another church, don't waste your time going to church. You are not pleasing God but your pastor who you want to notice your coming. And you cannot preach to God that the man is not submissive to him. Both of you are in error. You can only save yourself by doing the will of God. You can pray for him to change his mind and with your good conduct.

papertrail:
I beg to differ on no 7.Keeping the Sabbath is a condition for making heaven

Do the differ with scripture let's see.

tricosite:
My problem is not attending the same church.
My question ❓ is why do we have different Churches?.

Doctrine is what brought about the different churches we have. Different doctrines from different churches.

baralatie:
Apostle Paul himself has written on this issue and it was straight forward.
It was not a do or die


If the unbelieving oarther depart no problem
If the unbelieving partner stay better


The grace of the believing partner covers the other


But the real issue is when Apostle Paul teachings on Marriage and responsibilities.
If you do not understand it.then you will be in shock and difficult corners trying to manoveu

Who is an unbelieving partner here?

A man going to Assemblies of God or his wife going to Deeper life?

Straight forward answer is needed as you said.

baralatie:
If you married someone as a man from another church,faith,sect then you as a man is the key problem here.
And I don't see the reason for you as a man now turning your house into a war zone

How is the man a problem? Did they not teach the woman to be submissive to her husband?

Unless you are saying the man knew and willingly married a disobedient woman. Whether he knew or now, a disobedient woman who strives with her husband is wasting her time going to God. The scriptures are there.

Originalsly:


Blame the woman. Why not the man? ... isn't he the one that chose the wife? ... Didn't he know the wife belongs to a different church?.. and if he marries her they would be unequally yoked? ... and doesn't the Bible specifically say don't be unequally yoked? So how can she be the cause of problems in the family? Isn't he the one that built his house on sand instead of solid rock? ... and when the house comes crashing down you blame the wife? Bro .... all those scriptures are irrelevant ... the one that really matters with regard to your topic is do not be unequally yoked. women can be rightfully blamed for a whole lot of stuff ... but not this one.

"God hates divorce"... really? God of love is also a hater. Why would He hate divorce when He has made provision for it? Was He the one that have people swearing at marriage until death do us part?

No wonder you are asking questions that were answered by the scriptures. You need to go and read to have knowledge.

He made the provisions because of stiff-necked people who would not read and work towards doing the will of God.

Matthew 19:8
He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.

Your point is actually pointless. Unequally yoked with who, a Christian or a non Christian?
Who is an unbeliever according to the bible? Did they teach you that your husband who is a Christian in another church is an unbeliever? So if this is your only point, then you have no point.

You need to start reading those things you called irrelevant to gain knowledge and do the will of God. This is the same some women will they are on the right path not knowing they are not really holding unto anything.

EquitableTech:
The man is to blame if the wife worship at a different church.
The day my wife tries that, she gets divorce letter the following day...there'll be no time to negotiate. Period

Remember number 1. God hates divorce. This applies to both man and woman. Thank God we have this topic. You can show it to her and ask her to tell you reasons why she should continue standing against the will of God.

Bribri:
You see this topic made me had a rethink for the no 1 on my list. An apostlic church bred suddenly turn cele and was hell bent on no withdrawal. Baba gently begin take steps backward. I don't want confused kids with different notion in faith. Thanks for bringing this up.

Nice. You can as well show her this topic so start doing things with understanding of the word of God and not look up to any man.

flokii:
The so called pastors are not helping matters.. Ideally before a woman kneels to greet her pastor, she must first kneel to greet her husband whom God Himself made the head of the family unit.. all others religious figures like pastors, imams, bishops, reverend fathers etc. are secondary.

There is no way God will answer your prayers when you fail to honour your immediate "lord" which is your husband as ordained by the Almighty in heaven. God is specific and HE doesn't change.

In addition to this, they can change church, pastor, etc, but they can't change their husbands who God ordained for them. If they do, they have a serious case with God.

So it now left for those who have understanding to check which one has more weight before God. Nobody is saying they should not respect their pastors.

Men who are having this issue should show their wives these things.

Wives having issues with their husbands should know that the love for the will of God is above everything. Unless you are going to that church because of your love for the pastor, prophet or prophetess which cannot take you to God. Even those prophesying and doing signs and wonders will be rejected on the day of judgement for going against the will of God.

These things above cannot be disputed by anybody.

paxonel:
But why is it that, when a Muslim woman who is married to a Christian man decides to go to mosque the husband will not see it as issue. But when a Christian woman tells her husband i don't want to go to your church, it becomes a problem?

Why are churches competing among themselves for nothing?

It could be that they had an agreement before marriage. I don't know about Muslims, I wrote as a Christian.

As Christians If the man say no, there is nothing she can do about it except she can make him change his mind through prayers and good conduct.

Romanoff:
Which obedience?

When many have derailed from God's plans for marriage.

The same husband who fornicated his way to marriage and slept with many women along the line?

Or the same wife who probably slept her way through marriage with a long mileage to add?

Marriage is honorable if it's entered rightly and the way God intended it to be. A marriage you didn't enter with God's standards according to His word, you're now quoting scriptures to suit your narrative.

Amos 3:3 says can two work together unless they agree? If you don't have a solid foundation that you both agree on before getting married, na these kind issues una go dey deal with in marriage.

Pastor doesn't even need to preach it, cause for a woman who doesn't have the right Christian foundation, pastor fit preach tire, she still no go change. You know how many pastors preach say fornication is a sin? She change, even you change? Shebi una continue till una marry?

But somehow you want the woman to obey you cause the bible says so.

🤣
I no dey reply anybody mention.

No body is interested in who changed and who did not change. As long as they(you) know they are zealous for nothing and wasting their time seeking God in disobedience. And that hellfire is bouncing and waiting to receive, no qualms.

If you are one of them and you are doing your own because your husband is fornicating up and down, both of you should remember that thing I said is bouncing above. It doesn't listen to such reason.

thesicilian:
True
More pastors should preach on this

Yeah but it is difficult to hear it anywhere.

Many women today are the cause of the problems in their families because they have insisted on attending a church different from their husband's church. This has led to divorce/separation between husbands and wives.

What women don't know is that they are on their own before God. God hates such act of disobedience. As long as your husband didn't say you should not worship God. I will point out why it is wrong with bible verses.

1. True worshippers of God worship him in spirit and truth. These are the people that God is looking for. Not those that destroy what God has joined together because they are looking for God on a mountain, in a temple, or church. God is a spirit and is everywhere, even in your room. Jesus told us what God wants from those seeking Him in John 4:20-24.
Matthew 6:6.

God hates divorce/separation as seen in Malachi 2: 16, Matthew 19:3-9, Mark 10:2-12. Divorce is the word used for separation between husband and wife. If you are a pastor, prophet, prophetess, or a wife that breaks home because of ministry, church or mountain prayers, you have a case to answer before God on the judgement day. The warning... Matthew 19:5-8, Ephesians 5:31-33.

2. Obedience to the will of God is better than any sacrifice you think you are making for God in disobedience to your head/husband. Saul was rejected by God as king because he thought that offering fat rams to God in a temple(worship) is better than the instruction God gave. 1 Samuel 15:3, 20-23.

3. Any pastor, prophet, or prophetess who knew but kept encouraging you to keep attending his church or ministry which is causing problem between you and your husband is practising lawlessness. Matthew 7:21-23. These things are not a guarantee of being right with God. Overzealousness is nothing. The will of God is above everything.

Even though they prophecy in his name, cast out demons in his name, and perform many signs and wonders in his name, they will be rejected by God on the last day. Same with the overzealous disobedient wife. Do not be deceived.

4. If your husband has this issue against you and you think by being too zealous for God that he will accept you, you are wrong and on your own. You cannot appear before God with sin as a disobedient wife who is striving with her husband and expect God to accept your work, gift, or sacrifice in the church or ministry you attend. Before God will accept you anywhere, you must go and make peace with your husband first. See it here in Matthew 5:23-24.

5. They tell you there is no husband in heaven but they won't tell you there is no church in heaven. They won't tell you that you must give account of what you did with your husband on earth before they allow you pass through the gate of heaven. If not, you are going nowhere. God only desire those that will worship him in spirit and truth wherever they are.

Know this, that if you move from one church to another, it will not be used against you on the judgment day. But when you move from one husband to another, or abandon the one that married you, you have a case to answer. God hates divorce, Malachi 2:16. So if your desire to worship with a particular pastor, church, or ministry is making you to do what God hates, then you will have yourself to blame on the day of judgement.

6. This is what it means to love God, that you keep his commandments and yet his commandments are not burdensome. His will that you seek to do is not a burden that can cause problem and separation between husband and wife, Deuteronomy 30:11-14, 1 John 5:3. What he desire from us is simple, see also Micah 6:7-8.

The purest and undefiled form of religion/worship before God is to help the orphans, widows, and to stay away from worldly things, James 1:27.

7. Let no man judge you because of keeping the Sabbath day for it ts not a requirement for going to heaven, Col 2:16-17.

Submit to your husband and have deep respect for him, Ephesians 5:22-24, 1 Peter 3:1-2, 5-6.

If you are a pastor, prophet, or prophetess, and you have a member who is having such issue with her husband, it is better to do the needful accordingly to what is written in Matthew 5:23-24. Let them go make peace first with husbands and come clean before God for worship.

Even if it means they won't come back, at least you are not guilty of causing division and breaking what God has joined together.

jantman:




@Boomark
Let me tell you one of my life secret weapon is (Prayer). I rarely seek help from men or prophets of God. What I do is that, during the sleeping hour of midnight I pray a lot to God who is the only one that blesses and commision men. He is the one who will determine when he will speak to me or the prophet he will use to speak to my life.

Many church personels still think that destiny is all about preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Many people are preaching in churches - and are into the ministarial work even though it was not their call or destiny.

Boomark.
Why am I telling you all this ? It s because false prophecies can destroy God's purpose for a person.
False prophecies can waste a way a person's goals and dreams.
False prophecy does a lot of harm to a person and can give them wasted years.
False prophecies can make a person to be at the wrong place doing the wrong thing.
False prophecies destroys marriages
False prophecies destroys families

Boomark. if God call you for a certain purpose and wants to use you for his own glorious purpose for mankind, He will used many different genuine prophet to speak to you mysteriously and their prophecies to you will not contradit itselt. God will guide you with words towards the right path to your destiny

I must tell you this truth, many of the people that is currwntly in your life right now will not follow you into your wilderness as they will not follow you into your promised land. I mean the place of your (destiny)

Because of this thread I will open new topic on nairaland and write concerning the damage of false prophecy

Don't also forget that, Christianity is a personal race and the only person that will follow you or walk along with you is the Man Christ Jesus

Thanks a lot bro for your words of encouragement. Please remember to tag me when you create the topic.

jantman:
@Boomark
I no longer like to interfare into peoples affairs but I must say this to you; You need a genuine prophet of God to tell you about God purpose for your life.

Many people/preachers prophet lie in the name of God and they still keep lieing.

Be very careful of fake prophecies especially when it comes to your destiny if not you may find yourself doing what God did not send you to do.

My advice to you is for you to pray and ask God to reveal His will and purpose to you. If God answer your prayers, in time being he will send a genuine prophet to speak to you and guide you.

Don't believe what they told you yet. Just look for a genuine prophet to hear from Almighty God

Thanks a lot bro for your advice. I learnt a lot from my experience. May God continue to bless you with more wisdom.

IPOBTERRORISTS:
Stinking Afonja Christians and fucking IPOB terrorists pigs will catch hypotension. Children of perdition and bitterness. Hatred infested people. You can't harm anyone besides yourselves.
God bless Buhari for making Nigeria the happiest country in Africa

Your comment alone shows there is hatred, terrorism, hypertension, bitterness, people desiring to harm people in Nigeria.

You that made the insulting comment sounds envious, jealous, and bitter against a particular sect of people. As your name shows you are a terrorist. So the happiness claim is false.

Juliusmalema:



Lamentations..

Lol

I am happy that I made you happy. See how you are now laughing from ear to ear. That's why you guys need us badly.