BananaBender:


We have male feminists all over the world, why would I hate my fellow feminists?

Your wife doesn't need your permission, she can bear whatever name she so desires. You are not OK

Dat why u ar or will b som1 husband nt me, if she is not ok wit it dere ar other guys dat will b ok. But my wife will b ok it no need 4 convincing or permission.why do u think divorce rate has increase,it because some people tink dey are smarter than d creator of marriage.

tmosco:


Dat why u ar or will b som1 husband nt me, if she is not ok wit it dere ar other guys dat will b ok. But my wife will b ok it no need 4 convincing or permission.why do u think divorce rate has increase,it because some people tink dey are smarter than d creator of marriage.

You mean people were not getting married before Jesus?? How come Jesus created something that already existed?

BananaBender:




You mean people were not getting married before Jesus?? How come Jesus created something that already existed?

Sorry 4 arguing wit u.If u don't know d creator of marriage,dere is notin 2 say 2 u.

tmosco:


Sorry 4 arguing wit u.If u don't know d creator of marriage,dere is notin 2 say 2 u.

LMAO! Don't run away yet. Who is the creator of marriage?? God?

I thought Jesus was God??

BananaBender:


LMAO! Don't run away yet. Who is the creator of marriage?? God?

I thought Jesus was God??

Yes He is God, and He created marriage and also remember d first husband gave his wife d name he wanted her to bear.

BananaBender:


LMAO! Don't run away yet. Who is the creator of marriage?? God?

I thought Jesus was God??

Yes He is God, and He created marriage and also remember d first husband gave his wife d name he wanted her to bear.I am a Christian and my principle is based on it.

BananaBender:

Why do you have to be okay with it?? Why are you demanding from your wife what you can't give her??

Can you take her last name?? Why ask another human being to do what you can't do, you are a selfish fvcktard......

..but don't worry, there is always a woman suffering from mental slavery somewhere that would conform to your demands.

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tmosco:


Yes He is God, and He created marriage and also remember d first husband gave his wife d name he wanted her to bear.I am a Christian and my principle is based on it.

Which of the marriage did he create? Polygamy or Monogamy?

Gen 5:2: "Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Man(Adam) when they were created."

"Eve" allowed herself to be named. She already had a name - Adam

@misogynist2014, your entire epistle can be summed up as: My wife won't do it. She's from the lowest rung of the societal ladder and her surname doesn't deserve to be retained, so she'll be glad to have mine'. I totally get it. You didn't have to quote me to tell me that.

BananaBender:


Which of the marriage did he create? Polygamy or Monogamy?

Gen 5:2: "Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Man(Adam) when they were created."

Eve allowed herself to be named. She already had a name

What was are name

tmosco
post=27276723:
Whether d wife takes d husband name or not depends on d
couple,if d guy is ok wit it no p. But as 4 me she av 2 take mine. We ar
no more 2 but 1 and dere is difference btw 2 and 1. I believe in God's
definition of marriage not man's own.

Your response and the question asked are two parallel lines. I'm sorry, did you read the topic?

tmosco:

What was are name

You no go school??

I already mentioned it, her name was Adam.

Chiamaka01:


Your response and the question asked are two parallel lines. I'm sorry, did you read the topic?

I am a reasonable guy, if ur name goes wit ur job why not let her keep d name, bt if it for some reason like man are cheating women and all dat, I don't see any difference btw hphenating and keep ur name.

[quote
author=tmosco post=27279243]

I am a reasonable guy, if ur name goes wit ur job why not let her keep d
name, bt if it for some reason like man are cheating women and all dat,
I don't see any difference btw hphenating and keep ur name. [/quote]

Wait, there is a difference. Let me illustrate, you are Mr. Tmosco and you get married to Jean Wesley. 'Hyphenating' in this context, means her bearing Jean Wesley-Tmosco. How can you not see the difference?

tmosco:


I am a reasonable guy, if ur name goes wit ur job why not let her keep d name, bt if it for some reason like man are cheating women and all dat, I don't see any difference btw hphenating and keep ur name.

Tell me one logical reason why a woman should change her last-name to that of her husband's??

BananaBender:


Tell me one logical reason why a woman should change her last-name to that of her husband's??

D question should b why doesn't she want her husband's name. If she has a good reason to keep it sure, but while will all my children b bearing d same name and she doesn't, unconsciously dat it self causes dis unity and do remember if it works 4 my parents why change it. That why I said it's my own opinion. Some guys don't see anything in it and it works 4 dem but not 4 me.

Chiamaka01:


Wait, there is a difference. Let me illustrate, you are Mr. Tmosco and you get married to Jean Wesley. 'Hyphenating' in this context, means her bearing Jean Wesley-Tmosco. How can you not see the difference?

Sorry I can't see, it not like she is passing d name 2 our kids and doesn't want d name 2 die out.. She must av a good reason.

[quote
author=tmosco post=27279866]

Sorry I can't see, it not like she is passing d name 2 our kids and
doesn't want d name 2 die out.. She must av a good reason. [/quote]

I honestly don't understand what you're saying, no offence. Good reason for what? Retaining her surname and adding yours?

tmosco:


D question should b why doesn't she want her husband's name. If she has a good reason to keep it sure, but while will all my children b bearing d same name and she doesn't, unconsciously dat it self causes dis unity and do remember if it works 4 my parents why change it. That why I said it's my own opinion. Some guys don't see anything in it and it works 4 dem but not 4 me.

You can't answer my question?? Typical!

Your wife doesn't have to take on a new name because it adds no value to her. Let's assume you have a brand name that is successful, she might not want to live in your shadow. She might want to make her own difference and mark in the world. And she doesn't want to be known as tmosco's wife but as her own person.

Change of name is an unnecessary inconvenience. Her diplomas, publications, achievements and awards she got while single will be in a different name.

If her last name is a brand name or a household name, changing it might cost her influence, money and power.

She wants to carry on the legacy of her father. She wants to make a name out of her father's name because she believes she owes him that much.

If your problem is unity, why can't you adopt her own last name??

I don't even believe the children should bear the man's name but let's not go there.

Your last statement is right, it is your choice. As long as you do not impose it on your children or demand it from women in general, you're good.

Misogynist2014:
You are angry that I made that statement on carefreewannabe's post, aren't you? Women in the west face a bitter scenario. Most of them are single parents and the father of the child(that is if she knows the father) pays child support and never looks after his child. I watched 'the test' on SET, the mother of the girl(owner of the child) was explaining to the guy(supposed father) that she doesn't need his money but what she needs is the guy standing by the baby but he kept talking of money(to them, women and children are synonymous to money). I even heard a married man on trisha claiming he has slept with over 1000 women . Do you remember Brazil 2014 where women were used to entertain footballers ? I've watched programs where men disqualified women for being virgin. Below is the sketch of how male and female's brain in the west operate(a female friend here in Nigeria once lamented that men don't value women again.) A good part of male's brain is sex while that of female is respect(you only dedicate your brain to respect because it is scarce in town). This link shows you the meaning of the mocking word called 'pùssy' http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pussy?s=t The longman dictionary clearly instructs us not to use the word, but men use it on the female organ everyday.

So dear, be not mad at me but feminism cos women's value deteriorates everyday.

Lmao @ this entire post, most especially at the bold. The underlined bit, made complete with illustration, is easily my favourite part.

BananaBender:


You can't answer my question?? Typical!

Your wife doesn't have to take on a new name because it adds no value to her. Let's assume you have a brand name that is successful, she might not want to live in your shadow. She might want to make her own difference and mark in the world. And she doesn't want to be known as tmosco's wife but as her own person.

Change of name is an unnecessary inconvenience. Her diplomas, publications, achievements and awards she got while single will be in a different name.

If her last name is a brand name or a household name, changing it might cost her influence, money and power.

She wants to carry on the legacy of her father. She wants to make a name out of her father's name because she believes she owes him that much.

If your problem is unity, why can't you adopt her own last name??

I don't even believe the children should bear the man's name but let's not go there.

Your last statement is right, it is your choice. As long as you do not impose it on your children or demand it from women in general, you're good.

Like I said I will do Wat works, tell me of a man dat took his wife name and they are still together den I might consider, I av enuf examples of people dat d wife took d guy name and are leaving happily. Success is based on history if it works 4 my parent while not me.
My main aim of is to have an happy marriage.

They are enuf examples of women that are more influential dan their husbands. Don't tell me about d man, s shadow. Which loving daughter doesn't appreciate her father. All dis are excuses. Only if d change will drastically affect her career.

@ Chiamaka01

I read through your stance. I myself believe that one should keep their full birth name with them 'til the day of their death, so I'm naturally in full agreement with you. I will forever be my father's daughter - his blood. Marriage cannot change my lineage and/or identity.

[quote
author=EnlightenedSoul post=27280530]@ Chiamaka01

I read through your stance. I myself believe that one should keep their
full birth name with them 'til the day of their death, so I'm naturally
in full agreement with you. I will forever be my father's daughter - his
blood. Marriage cannot change my lineage and/or identity. [/quote]

tmosco:


Like I said I will do Wat works, tell me of a man dat took his wife name and they are still together den I might consider, I av enuf examples of people dat d wife took d guy name and are leaving happily. Success is based on history if it works 4 my parent while not me.
My main aim of is to have an happy marriage.

Ask your parents what made their marriage successful and they will tell you it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with your mum changing her last name.

"Success is based on history" LMAO! Where did you get that from?

You live in a patriarchal society that oppresses women, therefore you'll hardly find men that took on their wive's last names.

Example.
Jay Z is legally known as Shawn Knowles-Carter. Knowles is Beyonce's last name.
Antonio Villar married Corina Raigosa, they combined both of their last name, now he bears Anotnio Villaraigosa
Todd Baechle adopted his wife's last name and now bears Todd Fink
Barry Chalfin Lenair made his "maiden" name(Chaflin) his middle name, and took his wife's last name.

So many men dude, and they are happily married

tmosco:


They are enuf examples of women that are more influential dan their husbands. Don't tell me about d man, s shadow. Which loving daughter doesn't appreciate her father. All dis are excuses. Only if d change will drastically affect her career.

LMAO! The above doesn't contradict my point. Go back and read again, I gave you exaples of why a woman might not want to take her husband's last name.

'She' doesn't have to make up excuses because at the end of the day, it is her choice to make not the man's.
She will decide if she wants to take her husband's name or not.

BananaBender:


Example.
Jay Z is legally known as Shawn Knowles-Carter. Knowles is Beyonce's last name.

So many men dude, and they are happily married

I absolutely hate it when you lot claim things that had absolutely nothing to do with feminism, especially when it involves the emasculation of successful and strong black men. Jayz Z accepted Shawn Knowles-Carter because the Knowles family never had a son, and due to Beyonce's caree,r to keep the family name there. And that was a business deal orchestrated by Mathew Knowles.

Stop the madness! Jay Z is from Marcy projects, and if not for business, publicity, and money, he'll smack a biitch if she gets out of line. Stop messing with camel.

BananaBender:


Ask your parents what made their marriage successful and they will tell you it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with your mum changing her last name.

"Success is based on history" LMAO! Where did you get that from?

You live in a patriarchal society that oppresses women, therefore you'll hardly find men that took on their wive's last names.

Example.
Jay Z is legally known as Shawn Knowles-Carter
Antonio Villar married Corina Raigosa, they combined both of their last name, now he bears Anotnio Villaraigosa
Todd Baechle adopted his wife's last name and now bears Todd Fink
Barry Chalfin Lenair made his "maiden" name(Chaflin) his middle name, and took his wife's last name.

So many men dude, and they are happily married

There is nothing new under d earth, if u want 2 b successful in a business, look and read about d people dat av being dere and know why some succeed and some failed. Dat history.
Who told u all dis people u mentioned are happily married. If dat is d case talk of Hillary Clinton, late akinyuli, melida gates etc. The secret to marriage is understanding, that why I am not generalizing if d husband understand no problem. But if it because of all dis excuse u feminist give it a sign dat she is not mine.

tmosco:


There is nothing new under d earth, if u want 2 b successful in a business, look and read about d people dat av being dere and know why some succeed and some failed. Dat history.
Who told u all dis people u mentioned are happily married. If dat is d case talk of Hillary Clinton, late akinyuli, melida gates etc. The secret to marriage is understanding, that why I am not generalizing if d husband understand no problem. B[b]ut if it because of all dis excuse u feminist give it a sign dat she is not mine.[/b]

You are undoubtedly r*etarded, if you took a woman is yours because she bears your last name.

Give me a marriage that was successful because the woman changed her last name to that of her husband.

BananaBender:


LMAO! The above doesn't contradict my point. Go back and read again, I gave you exaples of why a woman might not want to take her husband's last name.

'She' doesn't have to make up excuses because at the end of the day, it is her choice to make not the man's.
She will decide if she wants to take her husband's name or not.

Of course it is her choice, marriage is also a choice. D husband can either accept or not. She can decide to av an happy marriage or not. Every human being has a choice to do some thing stupid. A man cannot force a woman 2 marry him.

SirShymex:


I absolutely hate it when you lot claiming things that had absolutely nothing to do with feminism, especially when it involves the emasculation of successful and strong black men. Jayz Z accepted Shawn Knowles-Carter because the Knowles family never had a son, and due to Beyonce's career to keep the family name there. And that was a business deal orchestrated by Mathew Knowles.

Stop the madness! Jay Z is from Marcy projects, and if not for business, publicity, and money, he'll smack a biitch if she gets out of line. Stop messing with camel.

Emasculation?? Why do you talk like a r*etard Shy, why??

Give me proof of the above. I dare you! You have no proof to what you claim. Mathew is not even on speaking terms with his daughters because he cheated on their mum and had a child with another woman while he was with Tina.

The streets have always talked about Mathew hating Jay Z and not wanting his daughter to marry him.

It is a fact that Jay Z is legally known as "Knowles-Carter". There is nothing you can do about that fact, your rumor has no weight.

What of the other men? They were pressured to? Or was it a business contract?? Mtcheeew.

[quote
author=tmosco post=27281308]

Of course it is her choice, marriage is also a choice. D husband can
either accept or not. She can decide to av an happy marriage or not.
Every human being has a choice to do some thing stupid. A man cannot
force a woman 2 marry him. [/quote]

Fixed. I concur.

BananaBender:

Emasculation?? Why do you talk like a r*etard Shy, why??

Give me proof of the above. I dare you! You have no proof to what you claim. Mathew is not even on speaking terms with his daughters because he cheated on their mum and had a child with another woman while he was with Tina.

The streets have always talked about Mathew hating Jay Z and not wanting his daughter to marry him.

It is a fact that Jay Z is legally known as "Knowles-Carter". There is nothing you can do about that fact, your rumor has no weight.

What of the other men? They were pressured to? Or was it a business contract?? Mtcheeew.

When you turn a successful strong brother, who went against all odds, from riding shotgun with druglords - and hustling on the street corners of Marcy projects - into a male-feminist. Then, that's the emasculation of the black man right there. Stop the madness - Jay Z has never, and will never support ya feminism pipe-dream.

Well, Mathew Knowles "shopped" Beyonce to a few hip hop artists, before she finally settled with Jay Z. And actually, before Jay Z, they did set Beyonce up with Nas - but allegedly, Nas never liked her because she has/had bad breath. Usher was also in the picture as well, but that also never materialised. Everything was for her solo career, and Mathew Knowles was involved. Business deal - and nothing more.

The others are inconsequential - I don't care about them.