NoMoreTrolling:


You are truly disgusting

So we say goodbye to merit just like that

What kind of country is this men YYyyyyyy me

I'd rather give children with low scores some sort of pre-schooling aid to help bring them up to par with others so as to make the most of their education, than tell them that its okay to not even try hard

...unless of course maybe certain schools in areas affected by closure due to insecurity...

u truly disgust me, spits

StOla:
Each state is filling its guaranteed quota in a federal education scheme designed for unity. It is not an admission based on academic merit but on compulsory NATIONAL representation.

It is nobody's business what low score or high score you require to fill up your own state quota. The high score only suggest better literacy indices in the South as opposed to the North.
No state is cheating the other, neither will any state yield its quota to another state until there's no candidate from the original state to fill their rightful quota.

The high cut-off score in the South is what internal competition demands to fill up their quota, while the low cut-off score in the North is what the low literacy levels ensure would fill up their own quota also.

Anyone who has no space to fill in their state quota can always try the myriad of state owned public schools or private school.

Lastly, what has the released marks got to do with a specific targeting of Igbos? You guys should please shut the hell up.

Enough of this unnecessary misinformation.

Kinganaba:
Igbos were not the only ones with high cut off mark. People should stop complicating issues. Am also Igbo.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:


You are the idiot here because both Students can't be and are not naturally meant to be in the same class without those failures limiting the capacity of the ones with higher IQ thereby destroying the potentials of gifted children

mapet:


Bros,

Thank you very much. Some Igbo folks here on NL are just showing your crude they are in reasoning. Quota system had been in existence before virtually these little minded folks were even concieved. How can you as a citizen expect that it is only your tribe that should benefit from a federal government arrangement and expect there will be peace?

If these folks don't get it, tell your state government to make the cut-off marks for Notherners 350/100 in Eastern state-owned schools, if that will pacify their jaundiced and myopic thinking.

That igbos are the best and the most intelligent in the world......Oh! shove it. It is only idiotic fools that celebrate such "ridiculous" feat, celebrating cut-off marks as if they are results. Bunch of Illiterates!!!. I would imagine that this is coming from shallow, inferiority-complexed or illiterate folks. Educated and decent (Igbo) folks will be more interested in engaging in enobling discuss and creating value.

One would have thought that you will celebrate the fact that these cut-off marks are good indicators to encourage our children to work hard, knowing fully well that provided they beat the cut-off marks, they develop a winning mentality. My daughter went through these exams 2 years ago scoring 179/200 and the cut-off was 120. Most important thing was the preparation she got that molded her into a champion..............

kaycid77:
IGBOS in this forum should not complain.... this will only do us good in the long run, When the competition is high the IQ grows.its now obvious that an average Igbo child is more intelligent than other children including the sophisticated ppl from the West..... Igbo brain is beginning to look like bundling the brain of a Japanese, Chinese, Jews and Russian into one skull,....what do you expect.

I attened Unity school ( one of the best 5 unity schools in Nigeria then) and I dont want any of my kids to go to any one, the standed now is lower than what an Average Igbo man can give his kids

StOla:


Then let the gifted child go to a school for the gifted.

Unity school is for national integration.

There are thousands of other schools out there. Unity school is not by force.

StOla:


You disgust everybody that has a sound education.

How many times will you be told that the unity schools are not a school for the academically gifted? They are for compulsory national integration.

Or is it by force to go to a unity school?
Is it the subsidized education that is so attractive to cause you to long for another's slot?

Or is it by force to turn an engineering school to a medical school?

Why are you complaining about the quota that is not yours. Fill yours and be content with your allocation, stop craving for what you're not entitled to.

xtrorse:

Hypocritical reasoning...

NoMoreTrolling:


look at this one trying to defend the indefensible, so far entrenched in the ways of mediocrity that your head in stuck up your own asss

saying unity schools are not for the academically gifted, then why, why oh why is there a need to place a high cutoff mark for any state

it's like saying that King's Collage Lagos is not a school meant for the academically gifted, men oma see ooo

this is why sometimes I get tired of Nigeria, but each day I try to find strength and encouragement from the sane minds around me, whatever tribe they come from [[like when i'm driving and i see a guy in front of me obeying traffic rules and staying in his lane, using his signal lights and so on, i just think to myself "that's my nigga" ]]

it's better to set up an entire "type" of school for children that can't make a country wide cutoff, that way, the syllabus can be tailored to meet their needs in nurturing them intellectually. that would be a round peg in a round hole, not one we have now where a student that scored as low as 15 is in a class with one that scored as high as 50 just so they can learn about unity

i giv up men

xtrorse:


Aside being far from objectivity and sincerity I used to think you're learned.

StOla:
I repeat, unity school is not by force.

Keep your eyes on your state's quota and stop looking across the fence.

If you were not the tribal jingoist that you are, you will understand simply policy on quota and stop acting like you're a victim of injustice.

Stop pokenosing into quota that is not yours.

xtrorse:


Seeking self-determination doesn't equate to call for war! It's not a must for us to co-exist under an entity.

As per your thought of Igbos lowering their score to zero to avoid being cheated in the Unity Schools admission; such thinking is rather appalling and highly regrettable to state the least.
It's too shallow for comfort as to share the same country.

StOla:



Are you the government that instituted the unity school system as to claim its for the gifted as opposed to the national integration the policy shows it to be?

I repeat, the unity school is not a school for the academically gifted.

You obviously do not know that a high cut off is a function of high scores by candidates from their respective states.

I'll try to simplify the process of determining cut off marks to you. I'm not saying it is word perfect, but it suffices.

If Anambra has a slot for 25 and the least score of the 1st 25 is 60, then cut-off becomes 60 for Anambra to fill its own quota.
If Sokoto has a slot for 25 and the least score of the 1st 25 is 15, then the cut-off becomes 15 for Sokoto to fill its own quota.

Pleease, please and please, how has Sokoto cheated Anambra when Anambra fixed its own high scores by internal competition between fellow Anambrarians for their state slot, and by virtue of its academic superiority to Sokoto?

Do you prefer to have Anambra students score so low?

How would that change the fact that your are still entitled to your state quota alone.

Ballmer:

Well the European should have been Extremely uncomfortable to introduce civilisation to the Igbos and should have wiped the Igbos off the face of the earth Instead. At least The pathetic state of your civilisation And comparism to them would have been highly regrettable too.

StOla:



Are you the government that instituted the unity school system as to claim its for the gifted as opposed to the national integration the policy shows it to be?

I repeat, the unity school is not a school for the academically gifted.

You obviously do not know that a high cut off is a function of high scores by candidates from their respective states.

I'll try to simplify the process of determining cut off marks to you. I'm not saying it is word perfect, but it suffices.

If Anambra has a slot for 25 and the least score of the 1st 25 is 60, then cut-off becomes 60 for Anambra to fill its own quota.
If Sokoto has a slot for 25 and the least score of the 1st 25 is 15, then the cut-off becomes 15 for Sokoto to fill its own quota.

Pleease, please and please, how has Sokoto cheated Anambra when Anambra fixed its own high scores by internal competition between fellow Anambrarians for their state slot, and by virtue of its academic superiority to Sokoto?

Do you prefer to have Anambra students score so low?

How would that change the fact that your are still entitled to your state quota alone.

StOla:



Are you the government that instituted the unity school system as to claim its for the gifted as opposed to the national integration the policy shows it to be?

I repeat, the unity school is not a school for the academically gifted.

You obviously do not know that a high cut off is a function of high scores by candidates from their respective states.

I'll try to simplify the process of determining cut off marks to you. I'm not saying it is word perfect, but it suffices.

If Anambra has a slot for 25 and the least score of the 1st 25 is 60, then cut-off becomes 60 for Anambra to fill its own quota.
If Sokoto has a slot for 25 and the least score of the 1st 25 is 15, then the cut-off becomes 15 for Sokoto to fill its own quota.

Pleease, please and please, how has Sokoto cheated Anambra when Anambra fixed its own high scores by internal competition between fellow Anambrarians for their state slot, and by virtue of its academic superiority to Sokoto?

Do you prefer to have Anambra students score so low?

How would that change the fact that your are still entitled to your state quota alone.

NoMoreTrolling:



it seems you are plugged in, so you are not grasping what the theme of this thread is, what the implications are and what the rectification should be how am I supposed to get through to you when you are so steadfast in your belief in mediocrity

nonetheless, i'm still gonna try

we are arguing, not based on the technicalities and implementation of the quota system, but based on the rationale behind it

let me state an example for you in practical terms. when i was in ss3, we had a junior student in ss2 then that couldn't do simple multiplication. like he couldn't do 4 * 4 and so on and I and my friends wondered how he kept rising through school with failed class reports. being much younger then, we probably just laughed it off as we had more pressing school issues to think about like light, water... however, now it does sink in a bit.

i ask you, would a student who scored 7 be learning the same material as the one who scored 60

would the material be dropped down to the level of the "7" student, or brought up to the level of the "60" student

if it's brought down to the level of the "7" student, then the "60" student would have wasted a great potential in that school and if it is brought up to the "60" student level, then how would the "7" student compete

do you now see how delirious the current system is

here you are giving me numbers and statistics of how the current bad implementation of the quota system is being carried out and you expect that to serve as some sort of justification you even mention about a state not being cheated! that's how far down the rabbit hole you've sunk.

you need to first unplug dude

wirinet:
Why is it that only Igbos wail about the inequal cut off mark for admission into Unity Schools? Are they the only tribe in Nigeria. Is it by force to send your Children to Unity Schools?

There are only 104 federal unity schools in Nigeria - http://toscanyacademy.com/blog/nigeria-education/list-of-federal-unity-colleges-in-nigeria/, Meanwhile there are tens of thousands of secondary schools in Nigeria - State and public owned, why not send your highly intelligent kids there. Better still why not lobby your governors to set up dis-unity schools in your region, and set up whatever criteria you like for admission.

obum88:
I am a full blooded Igbo but that is not injustice it shows superiority.

Scholes007:
that is where you didnt get the logic is quota system the ideal solution for the education woes of nigeria especially the not?...lets look at it at the lens of unity. Why is the cut off mark difference between these regions so large beyond logic? What has the govt done over the year to close the gap?.... Is there no private? If No. Does it mean unity school is meant for olodo northerns?

warrior01:
This is so disheartening as the injustice continues where even a female child from Anambra has to score 66 and above to get admission while a child from sokoto has to score only 7 to get same. Is it fair? Where is the merit in this case?
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obailala:

Why do you have to title the thread "Injustice Against Igbos" even when it is clear that there are several other states/tribes from both the SW and SS that are equally dissadvantaged by this same issue?...

Are you aware it is little acts of self-centeredness like this, when done in excess that makes every other tribe hate the Igbos today?

You have simply defeated the purpose of this thread by making it look like a problem suffered by Igbos alone. We need to put aside this "everyone wants to hurt me mentality" and understand that the problems we faced is a general one.

warrior01:
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Why are you such a hypocrite? Are you now saying we should jettison merit for mediocrity? I thought you said you guys are the most educated in the country then why are the cut off marks allocated to south western states lower than South East ?
For how long will this disparity continue? Does this affirm the believe that the south Eastern part of Nigeria remain the most educated? As for the insults, you're forgiven as you have just shown you're a product of the quota system.

coolitempa:

These cut-off marks are for Unity schools and most of us know that the SW has long jettisoned that system hence the slightly lower cut-off for them. You must remember that the SW has by far the highest number of independent schools in the whole country where standards are higher and which are predominantly populated by students of SW origin....

bayooooooo:


What you have written so far has not invalidated the argument of people against quota system: it not only rewards mediocrity but unfortunately also punishes hardwork. Provided students in Sokoto and Anambra wrote the same examination and under similar conditions, you can't fault the argument that students in Anambra are better than those in Sokoto. That's pretty much obvious. Plus, where is the chance that a candidate from Sokoto can even compete with ones from Anambra in the unity school? And should we build schools where mediocrities are being groomed?

I don't like quota system but I am not completely against it. What needs to be done is set an irreducible minimum below which no candidate should be admitted. In that case, we will know states that can not fill their quota. For instance, if the minimum is 40 for all states, Anambra candidates would still have to be highly competitive to get in because there are many good students in Anambra but that would also ensure Sokoto is not sending students who have no chance of competing. Plus, the school's standard will be maintained.

This system of anything goes is not good. Does it mean a candidate from Zamfara with a score of 2 can also be admitted in the name of uniting the country?

StOla:
Each state is filling its guaranteed quota in a federal education scheme designed for unity. It is not an admission based on academic merit but on compulsory NATIONAL representation.

It is nobody's business what low score or high score you require to fill up your own state quota. The high score only suggest better literacy indices in the South as opposed to the North.
No state is cheating the other, neither will any state yield its quota to another state until there's no candidate from the original state to fill their rightful quota.

The high cut-off score in the South is what internal competition demands to fill up their quota, while the low cut-off score in the North is what the low literacy levels ensure would fill up their own quota also.

Anyone who has no space to fill in their state quota can always try the myriad of state owned public schools or private school.

Lastly, what has the released marks got to do with a specific targeting of Igbos? You guys should please shut the hell up.

Enough of this unnecessary misinformation.