Gaddafithe2nd:

Nothing like great wall of Benin. Even in history it was the Oyo empire that had walls, urban settlement. Not to forget Queen Amina of Zazzau who built walls all over the cities and towns she conquered.
Benin is not an empire who dash una self that word "empire".

"The King of Benin can in a single day make 20,000 men ready for war, and, if need be, 180,000, and because of this he has great influence among all the surrounding peoples. . . . His authority stretches over many cities, towns and villages. There is no King thereabouts who, in the possession of so many beautiful cities and towns, is his equal."

— Olfert Dapper, Nauwkeurige Beschrijvinge der Afrikaansche Gewesten (Description of Africa), 1668

doe:


Sungbo Eredo use to be part of the benin empire.

my brother na everything u wan thief? that is an ancient Yoruba civilization.

Mynd44:
This is nice. Real nice

Here are some pictures of that famous wall

the last pic is sungbo eredo not the wall of Benin

tbaba1234:


"The King of Benin can in a single day make 20,000 men ready for war, and, if need be, 180,000, and because of this he has great influence among all the surrounding peoples. . . . His authority stretches over many cities, towns and villages. There is no King thereabouts who, in the possession of so many beautiful cities and towns, is his equal."

— Olfert Dapper, Nauwkeurige Beschrijvinge der Afrikaansche Gewesten (Description of Africa), 1668

The city engaged extensively in trade and became
wealthy. It was known for its powerful cavalry. The
capital city was Oyo-Ile, also sometimes called
Katunga or Old Oyo. The palace of the ruler (oba)
was the most important building. The large market
was the heart of the city. There was a tall wall
made of earth around the city for defense.
http://www.historywiz.com/oyo.html

ESP 111...

Gaddafithe2nd:

The city engaged extensively in trade and became
wealthy. It was known for its powerful cavalry. The
capital city was Oyo-Ile, also sometimes called
Katunga or Old Oyo. The palace of the ruler (oba)
was the most important building. The large market
was the heart of the city. There was a tall wall
made of earth around the city for defense.
http://www.historywiz.com/oyo.html

No one is saying Oyo is bad and Benin is good. But the wall of Benin is something all Africans should be proud of.

Walls of Benin

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Walls of Benin were a combination of ramparts and moats, called Iya in the local language, used as a defense of the historical Benin City, formerly of the now defunct Kingdom of Benin and now the capital of the present-day Edo State of Nigeria. It was considered the largest man-made structure lengthwise, second only to the Great Wall of China, and was hailed as the largest earthwork in the world. With more recent work by Patrick Darling [of Bournemouth University, UK], it has been established as the largest man-made structure in the world, larger than Sungbo's Eredo [another massive earthworks in Ijebu Ode]. It enclosed 6,500 km² of community lands. Its length was over 16,000 km of earth boundaries. It was estimated that earliest construction began in 800 AD and continued into the mid 1400's.

VirginFinder:


Let me break it down:

1. Yoruba language is to Binis what English is to Nigerians.

2. Agbada/Buba & Sokoto(Yoruba outfit) is to Binis what suit, shirt and trouser is to Nigerians.

3. Ifa/Ogboni(Yoruba religion) is to Binis what Christianity is Nigerians.

Got it?

Jesus Christ,wentin concern Bini man concern. agbada,IFA worship in Benin? my friend wake up,just travel to Benin city and stop saying rubbish,the deities in Benin tradictions are Ogun(iron god),oromila,ailala,do u know am a Bini person I have no clue on single sentence in Yoruba means,we Neva know our language finish na Yoruba we wan go learn,which kind inferiority complex dey worry you

doe:


Sungbo Eredo use to be part of the benin empire.

MrLouisVanGaal:


Try and imagine the extent the Benin empire stretched. I guess you are using todays Benin to gauge your view of that large and mighty Ancient Kingdom..It stretched all the way to present day Ogun state so that wall is part of the Ancient Benin Kingdom.

:-/ lie lie

bini and ludicrous claims are inseparable


sungbo eredo that was already left desolate before bini empire began?


bini empire never extended past akure. ...akure was in fact in constant battles against bini that I cannot safely say Akure was ever subjected

tbaba1234:


No one is saying Oyo is bad and Benin is good. But the wall of Benin is something all Africans should be proud of.

Walls of Benin

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Walls of Benin were a combination of ramparts and moats, called Iya in the local language, used as a defense of the historical Benin City, formerly of the now defunct Kingdom of Benin and now the capital of the present-day Edo State of Nigeria. It was considered the largest man-made structure lengthwise, second only to the Great Wall of China, and was hailed as the largest earthwork in the world. With more recent work by Patrick Darling [of Bournemouth University, UK], it has been established as the largest man-made structure in the world, larger than Sungbo's Eredo [another massive earthworks in Ijebu Ode]. It enclosed 6,500 km² of community lands. Its length was over 16,000 km of earth boundaries. It was estimated that earliest construction began in 800 AD and continued into the mid 1400's.

Do you still have the remains of the wall. Where is it now? Don't tell me white men or our govt destroyed it.

macof:



:-/ lie lie

bini and ludicrous claims are inseparable


sungbo eredo that was already left desolate before bini empire began?


bini empire never extended past akure. ...akure was in fact in constant battles against bini that I cannot safely say Akure was ever subjected

Sungbo Eredo and the Benin wall are two different structures.

ycat:
I say it as I see it, you are not up to that standard to hate. I don't like when cockroaches talk like an elephant. Benin was a tiny kingdom NEVER an empire. And what will I be touring in Edo when my town Ijebu Ode gets more tourist action than your whole state. You need to save yourself from shame and stop talking nonsense. What Benin has always been is exactly what you see when you look at it, the short man trying to talk big. If not allowing your lies to stick means hatred for you, the floor is yours. That Wikipedia that can be edited is your reference point is weak. You were never the story you tell about yourselves and still ain't,

abeg swerve,what are even saying seft,common history u dragging rivalry into it,mehnn tribalism for this country nor let una see road gerrahere mehn.u are saying Benin was never an empire?u have no proof whatsoever for your claims,now u don't even trust wikipedia?abeg I have better things to do

Gaddafithe2nd:

Do you still have the remains of the wall. Where is it now? Don't tell me white men or our govt destroyed it.

I googled and came up with this.

tbaba1234:

I googled and came up with this.

Alright

erusen:
abeg swerve,what are even saying seft,common history u dragging rivalry into it,mehnn tribalism for this country nor let una see road gerrahere mehn.u are saying Benin was never an empire?u have no proof whatsoever for your claims,now u don't even trust wikipedia?abeg I have better things to do

Wikipedia is not a reliable source. It generally
uses reliable secondary sources, which vet data
from primary sources. If the information on
another Wikipedia page (which you want to cite
as the source) has a primary or secondary
source, you should be able to cite that primary
or secondary source and eliminate the
middleman (or middlepage in this case). Always
be careful of what you read; it may not
consistently be reliable because work submitted
to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and
redistributed by anyone.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_reliable_source

Gaddafithe2nd:


Wikipedia is not a reliable source. It generally
uses reliable secondary sources, which vet data
from primary sources. If the information on
another Wikipedia page (which you want to cite
as the source) has a primary or secondary
source, you should be able to cite that primary
or secondary source and eliminate the
middleman (or middlepage in this case). Always
be careful of what you read; it may not
consistently be reliable because work submitted
to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and
redistributed by anyone.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_reliable_source

abeg make I come dey go,I reffered him to wikipedia because he won't believe Bini historians so I was hoping he would observe european travelers who encountered bini in the 15th century,but he wasn't even a knowledge seeker just a tribalist with emotional issues so I just free the guy,meanwhile the best way to know about this stuff is to visit Edo state just tour the different local governments around.from udo to esako u nor even need wikipedia seft.

Get lost! You and who in rivalry? Ode!

Benin was NEVER an empire, and you know it. Wikipedia isn't authentic for history, anything can be written there. You people that are more tribalist are the first to play the same card. You were never a great people or world renowned and still ain't. Check, you couldn't colonise the the hamlets around your town, yet you call yourself what again?

erusen:
abeg swerve,what are even saying seft,common history u dragging rivalry into it,mehnn tribalism for this country nor let una see road gerrahere mehn.u are saying Benin was never an empire?u have no proof whatsoever for your claims,now u don't even trust wikipedia?abeg I have better things to do

ycat:
Get lost! You and who in rivalry? Ode!

Benin was NEVER an empire, and you know it. Wikipedia isn't authentic for history, anything can be written there. You people that are more tribalist are the first to play the same card. You were never a great people or world renowned and still ain't. Check, you couldn't colonise the the hamlets around your town, yet you call yourself what again?

abeg leave me I don tire na you know,meanwhile u don't one single PROOF,u are not even an HISTORIAN,and u say u have more authentic history than what again?

ycat:
Get lost! You and who in rivalry? Ode!

Benin was NEVER an empire, and you know it. Wikipedia isn't authentic for history, anything can be written there. You people that are more tribalist are the first to play the same card. You were never a great people or world renowned and still ain't. Check, you couldn't colonise the the hamlets around your town, yet you call yourself what again?

You can read these books then

The Last African Empire
by Mr Folorunso Eddo (Author)

Benin Empire (Great Civilisations)
by Catherine Chambers

Stories of the Benin Empire 1964
by Joseph E. Sidahome

The Benin Massacre1897
by Boisragon


Black empires of the Middle Ages (Lost civilizations)1979
by Philippe Aziz

Benin was NEVER an empire, it doesn't matter how many surrogate writers you employ to write books.

There was a documentary shown here recently about Benin, and the white man said Benin kingdom.

tbaba1234:


You can read these books then

The Last African Empire
by Mr Folorunso Eddo (Author)

Benin Empire (Great Civilisations)
by Catherine Chambers

Stories of the Benin Empire 1964
by Joseph E. Sidahome

The Benin Massacre1897
by Boisragon

Benin to Bahia : a chronicle of Portuguese empire in the South Atlantic in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries...1959
by Philip Wayland Porter

Black empires of the Middle Ages (Lost civilizations)1979
by Philippe Aziz

If you are tired, go and sleep.
Not all historians are legit, that's why they have to be corroborated and discoveries are analyzed by experts.
Your stories can't be corroborated within Nigeria, and don't make sense.
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erusen:
abeg leave me I don tire na you know,meanwhile u don't one single PROOF,u are not even an HISTORIAN,and u say u have more authentic history than what again?

ycat:
If you are tired, go and sleep.
Not all historians are legit, that's why they have to be corroborated and discoveries are analyzed by experts.
Your stories can't be corroborated within Nigeria, and don't make sense.
-

my "stories"are on Wikipedia which is far greater than ALL the source you know,why am I even talking to an inrelevant illiterate like you who claim to know more history than wikipedia,man Bleep off my mentions

Wikipedia is just what it is. You can go and kill yourself because I won't buy your fake story. Your forefathers came to Nigeria with white people as porters. Your heritage is that of a nobody. Useless people claiming empire. Not only empire na umbrella. You are looking for illiterate when your foremost teacher can read to save her life. You are a people colonised Yoruba.

erusen:
my "stories"are on Wikipedia which is far greater than ALL the source you know,why am I even talking to an inrelevant illiterate like you who claim to know more history than wikipedia,man Bleep off my mentions

ycat:
Wikipedia is just what it is. You can go and kill yourself because I won't buy your fake story. Your forefathers came to Nigeria with white people as porters. Your heritage is that of a nobody. Useless people claiming empire. Not only empire na umbrella. You are looking for illiterate when your foremost teacher can read to save her life. You are a people colonised Yoruba.

oh I knew it,so one of those idiot claiming Benin as part of yoruba clan,you won't buy history fine, u are not the first to argue with wikipedia,but know what the Whole world will see Benin empire there why you be here singing I won't buy(who force you to buy)and for the very last time Bleep off my mentions

Foool, The original bini was a land with some Yoruba from Oranmiyan, not you impostors, and Yoruba was the first oba of that land. You probably just found about wiki. So how did you tell your story before now? The whole world can't see what wasn't there, only now you inferior schizophrenic people are just trying to make up history for yourselves, you didn't have any.

erusen:
oh I knew it,so one of those idiot claiming Benin as part of yoruba clan,you won't buy history fine, u are not the first to argue with wikipedia,but know what the Whole will see Benin empire there why you be here singing I won't buy(who force you to buy)and for the very last time Bleep off my mentions

saintdennis:


That's what I don't get... because even history students in school RARELY discuss naija history, they mainly concerned with discussing foreigners. Such a shame.

Which version of history are you talking about here? On this one thread few can agree on where boundaries were, who lived where, what they wore, what language was spoken first, which religions were here first and which tribe was most influential.

Imagine a history class where radical tribalists start physically fighting each other over perceived differences. Is Nigeria ready to collect it's various histories and become one nation? I often wonder. I've been talking to Nigerians for a few years now. Is it possible to write a history book that won't cause a riot? You tell me?

History is extremely important. If nothing else, so we don't make the same mistakes over and over. It is also important to know where we come from.


Those who don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
~ George Santayana

it cant be gone without a trace when its not Atlantis.

Harmored:
Hmmm

This dog looks like one comedian in Nigeria.






Just a joke oòoooo

Gaddafithe2nd:

The city engaged extensively in trade and became
wealthy. It was known for its powerful cavalry. The
capital city was Oyo-Ile, also sometimes called
Katunga or Old Oyo. The palace of the ruler (oba)
was the most important building. The large market
was the heart of the city. There was a tall wall
made of earth around the city for defense.
http://www.historywiz.com/oyo.html

Can we see pictures of the great wall of Oyo empire?

ycat:
Wikipedia is just what it is. You can go and kill yourself because I won't buy your fake story. Your forefathers came to Nigeria with white people as porters. Your heritage is that of a nobody. Useless people claiming empire. Not only empire na umbrella. You are looking for illiterate when your foremost teacher can read to save her life. You are a people colonised Yoruba.

Do you even know the meaning of Yoruba? A derogatory word derived from yar'riba. Used by the fulani jihadist to refer to ur ancestors as conquered tribe and runaway slaves from north east Africa? Oyo itself was never an empire but a military brigade used by criminals to raid traders until they were sacked severally by d nupe n final blowdealt by alimi n co.

Hotguy27:


This dog looks like one comedian in Nigeria.






Just a joke oòoooo

dont post crap after me plz.

VirginFinder:


You are a dullard!
Oba Ehengbuda died in battle in a bid to annex Owo. Since then, Obas stopped going to war.
If Benin could not annex Owo, how can you rank it above ancient Ife, Ibadan, Oyo etc
Yorubas have always lived in big, planned towns.

You're a buhari (dead brain). The Benin kingdom is the most supreme. The Yoruba history is not authentic. I stay at Ibadan, and believe me when I say I've heard like 3 different story about the Yorubas.

the op is not even from Benin, so why the thread?