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dreams77:

Child of hate, if u had a choice I know u wld bring ur entire generation and village to lagos...dnt hate the player, hate the Game...am from lagos and am happy am from no place else...eko Oni baje

without us what will your lagos be??..

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Warris going on here
I can't read all zat

GworoChewinMaga:
Nigeria does not owe Lagos a damn thing!

The sea ports you boast off plus all other major infrastructure in Lagos was built using oil proceeds.

Nigeria has well over 800km of coastline with Apapa and Tin Can ports not having berthing space of more than 5km max.

If the other coastal cities in the Niger Delta were developed with their rightful proportional revenue from their oil wealth which happened to have been diverted to Lagos, Abuja and Kano do you think your overcrowded slum village can compete?

If anything Lagos owes Nigeria and not the other way as the financial transactions entered in Lagos are geared towards other regions and not only Lagos.

And finally, what is this useless appellation for?

You guys ridiculed and dismissed the last confab as a waste of time which was meant to start Nigeria back on the road of genuine restructioning only for you to now employ almajiri tactics to beg for more money to fund Lagos?

FYI : Salt was a major trade commodity in the trans sahelian trade with Borno providing salt from Lake Chad. Some of the salt mined from the salty beds of the Chad lake found their way inland. And if you must know before any yoruba set foot in Lagos, the Binis had already occupied it as a war camp. You guys should as a matter of urgency stop claiming Lagos as a yoruba achievement because you had little or nothing to do with its initial occupation, development and financial progress.

What an ignorant and emotional rant.

The sea ports in Lagos were NOT built with the proceeds of oil. During the Biafran war how did weapons enter Nigeria? Was Nigeria exporting oil during the war. People should eschew sentiment from fact. Oil was not a significant commercial product until about 1973 following the Yom Kippur war when OPEC started flexing its muscles. Before that time after adjusting for inflation at today's prices oil was never above $25 and Nigeria was not a major exporter before the end of the Biafra war so which oil money ?? When
http://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart
Did Nigeria pay for the war against Biafra and emerge at its end debt free from oil money? Maybe you are too young to know.
You talk about 800 km of coast.Another Ignorant comment.What is the NATURE of the West African coastline and in particular the Bight of Benin. Have you ever been there. The reality is all the way from Ivory Coast through Accra Lome and Cotonou is a very straigtforward coastline with easy access to the sea and that is the case in Lagos ,further east our coastline moves sharply south to the Bight of Biafra and is mostly Creek and mangrove swamp. It could still be accessible to large ships but at much greater cost and with a guaranteed requirement for frequent dredging. In short Lagos is the cheapest option for a government that does not want to spend the money investing.
Back to the claim that the port was developed with oil money have you got a figure to hand ? Was it oil money too that paid for Kainji Dam and the Niger Bridge? People can be funny.

The Port in Lagos was established in the 1890s by the British and developed further in the 1930s. It is a relatively low cost investment because of the sweet natural harbour that is unparalleled in Nigeria.

We have debated this particular point on Nairaland several times.There are Brisith Colonial Reports goint back to the 19th century outlining the tonnage that was shipped from Lagos. How were palmoil and the groundnut pyramids shipped to Europe in the 1940s,50s and 60s.

Take a look at page 7 of this report http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1898_lagos/3064634_1898_lagos_opt.pdf

.How did railway materials enter Nigeria in 1897. Read the following pages to see what was going on in Lagos in terms of exports and imports.
This is the report for 1904
http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1904_lagos/3064634_1904_lagos_opt.pdf

The issue really as far as I am concerned is not special status for Lagos. The issue is resource control. Let the owners of oil control their oil,let the owners of groundnut control their groundnut and so on.
But the reason the colonialist preferred Lagos to Calabar as capital when they merged the two territories was because the Lagos port offered cheaper and easier access to the country.
What exactly is at the port? Have you ever been there? It is NOT a modern port by any stretch of imagination and in terms of construction cost cannot have cost as much as the National stadium. So stop this fantasy as if it is some massive huge infrastructure development that did not exist until oil money started to flow in the 70s. That is rubbish. The port is a business that has paid back its original investment several times over. And no we do not want any special status for Lagos. What we want is a smaller FG, and resource control
One day you are claiming the seaport was built with oil proceeds the next you claim oil was developed with groundnut proceeds funny!!

jamesversion:


You are foolish to think Yorubas developed Lagos. Lagos was the capital of Nigeria and was therefore developed by the Military regimes which were mostly Northerners. In essence, Northerners developed Lagos with oil proceeds from the ND.

Showcase the capital of another Yoruba state aside Lagos, let us see how developed it is. Foolish people.

ur
Your SE&SS can't match
1 Ogun State
2 OYO State
3 Kwara state
4 Ekiti state
Maybe our unity and love for ourselves brought us this far... don't hate us hate your ancestors, so my dear stop wailing and tell your people to develop your place... cos the Oba might just kick u guys out by throwing your sorry asses into the lagoon...

arresa:




Sadly for people like you, Lagos is shouldering the leadership failures in your states, towns and villages and your poor and jobless people can not put food on the table unless they enter the next bus heading to Lagos to add to the already congested situation in Lagos, to overstretch the already stretched infrastructure, health systems, roads, bridges, schools and and so on..

Or you are just too clueless to understand that Lagos can not keep up with the influx from all over Nigeria hence gridlocks, homelessness, lack of housing, not enough schools, not enough jobs and so on.

Lagos can actually fix this meaningless influx, all that the government needs to do is make frustrating laws like more and more lastma, kai packma flogma crazema and what have you

Lagos is spending billions every year catering to FG neglects like roads, bridges and so on when in fact the money should be going to housing for the poor, job creation and other alleviating programs that in return generates more more for Nigerians and Nigeria as a country.

More money for Lagos means more money for Nigeria.

More money for Nigeria means more FG projects and services in your towns amd villlages.

Beats me why you people reason so shallow and grossly backward to even hurt and deny yourself.


The Abuja clowns and mentally lazy fools including people like you think you are denying Lagos when in fact you are denying yourselves.

jamesversion:


You are foolish to think Yorubas developed Lagos. Lagos was the capital of Nigeria and was therefore developed by the Military regimes which were mostly Northerners. In essence, Northerners developed Lagos with oil proceeds from the ND.

Showcase the capital of another Yoruba state aside Lagos, let us see how developed it is. Foolish people.

How come when the Military left in 1999 they never generated more than 500 million Naira
Lagos today is different from Lagos of IBB or Abacha. Everything Lagos gets from Nigeria it repays with interest
The fact is since 1999 Lagos has been transformed by having its destiny in its own hands and that is what should happen every where else

shigothang:



You ve a right to oppose Lagos on special status case but for u to mention other Yorubas claiming a stake in Lagos is none of ur bizz. You forgot we are a large tribe with solid tradition nd history ,so Lagos is ours, and forever remain with her sister cities(tradition and history) as London is part or England and Cardiff belongs to wales ,Belfast to Ireland even though they all belongs to UK.

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I don't have a problem with that, leave Lagos for d original indigene to run things. It was a former federal capital which was developed by the sweat of all Nigerians. All tribes have a stalk in Lagos, after all its d Aworis that can claim Lagos

shigothang:



Yes ,we own that.its our life ,our way and our tradition ( the brown roofs and the marks ,all ours dude)

What tribe r u from ? I need to know . Let's ve a man to man contest,men from ur tribe and ours and see if u match us in all ramifiations .

Go to osford,brusels and lots of european cities u will find the old structures still standoing and they all represents tradition.

When those brown roofs were built (invogue) ,u guys had nothing to match it then .

Now u having a coloured roof and u thought u ve arrived ,spitting on te brown roofs while u for this coloured roofs soon become old skool.

Where were ur brown roofs? U don't ve ,cuz u were not exposed then ( ti omode ba ni aso bi agba ,ki ole ni akisa bi agba) .


Have u been to Ibadan and see mordern buildings .Ibadan represents a lot to us and tradition is one of her beauty.

Those brown roofs are tradition and beauty of the westerners. Our landmarks.

So ,stop posting shit and oppose the lagos special status .no bef ,you ve ur point.

as I said explain this

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To all the Afonjas posting trash here, hear what Ahmed Dan Fulani has to say:

"Listen to me. We are the new Lagos"

chai, its well

shigothang:





Are they not Yorubas ? And if u don't know they spread from lag to ogun. They are th omo oni ile's in Lag

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Yea they are a sub group of Yoruba. I don't have a bad mind towards Lagos. Successive government have all failed to ensure development was spread round. And Lagos seems to be a good place for business, so all men troop there for survival. But it won't be fair if only Yoruba claim sole right of Lagos. What if d Gwaris in Abuja tomorrow start claiming everything in that area, will it be fair? There is love in sharing.

Ok nau! Shebi dem dey call una FLAT HEAD! When the war in Lagos (eko ile) start some people go dey bear SMASHED HEAD!

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9japride:


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Yea they are a sub group of Yoruba. I don't have a bad mind towards Lagos. Successive government have all failed to ensure development was spread round. And Lagos seems to be a good place for business, so all men troop there for survival. But it won't be fair if only Yoruba claim sole right of Lagos. What if d Gwaris in Abuja tomorrow start claiming everything in that area, will it be fair? There is love in sharing.

why must you use different monikers?

http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1898_lagos/3064634_1898_lagos_opt.pdf

LAGOS

omonnakoda:

why must you use different monikers?

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Me? Nope I don't do such, I am just being real

shigothang:


Ok good you r a matured dude . Let's be factual Lagos will forever remains part of Odua land ,maybe if Nigeria splits ,the gwari's ,if they ve the guts to claim the land ,its all gud .


Read history about Lagos colony *nd u will understand where the british ran their govt from and the areas managed by western region .

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No doubt it will still b part of Yoruba land. As for Gwaris it will b very difficult. I am just stating d facts, at times I just wonder how Lagos was able to accommodate everyone. If u check d map it's just too small, if government can try to encourage development in other zones I believe d pressure on Lag will reduce so that d Yorubas can enjoy it for themselves only

When are we going to learn from our past, at the slightest provocation we go at other, can't we look for better ways to co-exist without tribalising every political discussion? America is way bigger with various ethnic groups yet the co-exist. I think we shouldn't follow the mistakes of our founding father, we should learn to live in harmony.

sarrki:
Observing

For now no comment

The truth is whoever that wants to destroy Lagos

Will go back to his village the way he came to Lagos

By God's grace

Anise Eko onibaje

Lagos is a no man's land

9japride:
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Me? Nope I don't do such, I am just being real

You know and I know let us leave it at that

It is funny to see threads like this pop up every now and then about Lagos. Lagos had its roots in the story of Ifa divination and the worship of Olokun. Olofin Ogunfunminire and his people, all from Ife, own Lagos. Lagos is a settlement of Ife indigenes. The cults and deities of Ife were planted in Lagos. Thus Lagos can be said to belong to Ife.

The first aggression and attempt to colonize Lagos came from Dahomey in form of raids. Dahomey had its eyes on the Mahin salt mines which was under the Ijebu King. Dahomey was terrorizing Lagos and raiding its farmlands in attempt to subdue it and use as frontier camp to declare war on Ijebu and exercise its ambition to control salt trade. Lagos sent request to Oyo asking for security against Dahomey. The Oyo cavalry was dispatched to dislodge and destroy Dahomey camps and secure the town. Unfortunately climate in the forest was not suitable for their horses and they were depleted by sickness and death. Alaafin sent emissary to Omo n'Oba with developments on the coast and the need to secure Lagos against Dahomey. This was how Bini's story in Lagos started. Dahomey was dislodged, Lagos was secured, Ijebus continued their ownership and control on salt trade and Lagos rewarded Bini with a seat for its throne.

Prior to all these Portuguese had been a trade partner with Lagos. Their boats bring goods and return home loaded with goods traded from Yoruba hinterland. Their aim was never to colonize so they never went up the river into the inland to exchange with Yoruba towns. This was how Lagos started as a port of exchange, in other words, an international market.

The second aggression against Lagos occurred in 1850 when British navy attacked Lagos with gunships to dethrone the 10th King of Lagos, Oba Kosoko who rebelled against British attempt to dictate terms of trade in slave export. After defeating the King they returned the 9th King, Oba Akintoye, who had been previously vacated from the throne by Kosoko. Akintoye did not last long and died. He was succeeded by the 11th King, Oba Dosumu. After securing verbal guarantees from Dosumu, the British, on 1st January, 1851, took him aboard their vessel and sealed the guarantees formally in a treaty document explicitly worded as a contract between Her Majesty The Queen of England and The King and Chiefs of Lagos.

From January 1st 1851 to October 1st 1960 is 99years and 10months, approximately 100yrs. Lagos remained a contract between the Queen and the King and Chiefs of Lagos.


Britain transferred self governance to three unique administrations on Jan 1st 1960, that is 1) the government of Western Nigeria, 2) the government of Eastern Nigeria and 3) the government of Northern Nigeria. The three are self ruling but with common alliance for security and trade. Lagos was not made a part of any of these self ruling governments. Instead, Lagos was left as the administrator and arbiter of the alliance for security and trade between the three.

That role for administration and arbitration has since been donated to Abuja to act as the center for the people of West, East and North, who till today are still politically self ruling.


So to go back and tie this with the question asked by my very smart but mischievious brother, Mayor of Lagos, where in all of the history of Lagos has it ever lost the right of its King and Chiefs on the sovereingty of Lagos?

dreams77:
ur
Your SE&SS can't match
1 Ogun State
2 OYO State
3 Kwara state
4 Ekiti state
Maybe our unity and love for ourselves brought us this far... don't hate us hate your ancestors, so my dear stop wailing and tell your people to develop your place... cos the Oba might just kick u guys out by throwing your sorry asses into the lagoon...

Apart from Lagos, no SW state can match Rivers by any developmental index. Lagos is worthy of its accolades having developed for itself a model that works. But it is not a function of Yoruba magic but rather a collective effort of Nigerians in general.

Rivers, Delta, Bayelsa and AkwaIbom have the potential to get to the heights attained by Lagos, if not to even better it. Lagos has gotten enough of our commonwealth, she shouldn't unnecessarily get greedy.

shigothang:
Yeah west ve well exposed,intelligent and classic beings than the east ,so also we ve touts and area boys than the east . We agree .

Only d easterners claims to be better than the westerners ,whil other tribes and othe nationals believed the westerners are more exposed (sages,sophistiated and the home of beaurecrats) than d easterners .

All these parasitical and hypocritical Afonjas keep standing logic on its head with their unstable nature and greed. This is how they go about bragging about being smarter than the rest of the country with their selfish desires.

From 1967 to 1970 Igbos and Easterners made attempt to have a separate existence from the greedy Yorubas and their Northern masters, but these unstable bigots instead colluded to almost annihilate the Easterners for daring to declare Biafra.

Till date Igbos and Easterners are still determined to abandon Yorubas with their Northern masters so that they can have Lagos and Abuja for keeps yet these hypocrites and parasites choose to kick against the quest for self-determination and even shamelessly earning a living to frustrate the quest.

The success of Lagos is entirely due to the sweats and bloods of tribes in Nigeria powered by the crude oil wealth from East and Nigerdelta. For some 80 years of being the capital of Nigeria, the capacity of Lagos to generate IGR grew astronomically more than any other States in the federation mainly due to the decades old disproportionate FG investment at the expense of Eastern States and the oil-bearing communities.

It's only lazy ingrates and parasites who are too confused to ever stand for anything good in life and yet desire to reap where they refused to sow and still want to rip off others to be able to satisfy their insatiable greed.

Ahmadgani:


of course Lagos has the highest GDP but my question is how many PERCENT is Lagos contributing? don't forget that most of what Lagos realise are used to develop the state itself. we are talking of national economy here.

Guy, you are talking rubbish. You even went as far as lying to try to misinform people. I did a fact check of your claims about California's gdp contribution to the u.s economy compared to Lagos to Nigeria's and discovered that you don't even know what you're talking about. California's gdp is $2.5-trillion while the total U.S gdp is 16.7-trillion (so Cali merely represents/contributes 15% of America's gdp and not the 30+% you claimed). Lagos gdp is $131-billion while Nigeria's rebased gdp was $510-billion (meaning Lagos contributes atleast 25% of Nigeria's overall gdp). Therefore the premise of your argument doesn't even hold water.

But in any case, Lagos will be fine while all you haters can help yourself in the Lagoon.

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shigothang:
Big lie dude.

Lying propagandist, you can continue your delusion...

90xtr09r:




From 1967 to 1970 Igbos and Easterners made attempt to have a separate existence from the greedy Yorubas and their Northern masters, but these unstable bigots instead colluded to almost annihilate the Easterners for daring to declare Biafra.

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Who are these Easterners.Surely you are not talking about the good people of Port Harcourt?

omonnakoda:
Who are these Easterners.Surely you are not talking about the good people of Port Harcourt?

Here's a message from a Nigerdeltan to the shameless parasites in the South:

WombRaiders:
Yoruba wants one Nijeriya because they are afraid of having us in the better south ( ND and SE) Leave them alone with ab0ki.

It is not just a matter of financial exigency but a matter of survival.

For all the hatred they show towards the Ibos, the Yoruba needs the Ibo to thwart any jihad from the north.

So to my Ibo brothers and sisters, what I can conclude from this yoruba madness and obsession towards Biafr@ movement is actually shrouded in deep fear of being left alone with their northern masters.

Adeboye will be converted to Islam. Tunde Bakare will return back to Islam.

The Yoruba is actually throwing tantrums over Biafr@ because they need YOU IBOS to remain to protect them just as they need us in the ND to keep feeding them.

The Yoruba is an ingrate coward!