ObiChiz08:


I've allowed d 'word of God' to make impact in me but it hasn't. I've read d Bible with an open mind expecting to see d 'spirit' that inspired d scripture overtake me, yet nothing of such. I hope to remain with God but to keep on going to church, nah!

Raydos:
i want to ask three questions!


(1) how often do you fast?


(2) do you pray at least 10times a day?


(3) do you distance yourself from sin?


you don't do all these things and you expect GOD to show itself to you! - scientists have tried their best to find where GOD is really is but all to no avail so they conclude that there's no GOD!


just because people Don't see GOD Face to face so they have a mere intuition that GOD Doesn't exist - but funny enough you people have never seen devil in person yet you believe he exist, every bad thing that happen to you, you believe its always the handiwork of devil.

try to do all those 3 aforementioned list up there, and i asure you that GOD will see you in spirit and he will make you understand everything.

i am a living testimony

raphieMontella:

once a christian begins to question christianity/leaves christianity...they would say he was never a christian bla bla bla....or that he's an agent of satan bla bla bla...very pathetic.

NevetsIbot:
I i were God, you'd rot in hell for calling him satan. Calling a creator a creation..... You're biggest fõol I've seen on NL.

I hope you repeat this to him on judgement day.... Keep living in your delusion.
God is so merciful, yu myt end up in heaven cos of grace...... Bimbo

mastermaestro:


Why atheists are perturbed each time GOD is mentioned seriously wonders me! You guys show inordinate hypertensive obsession for any matter that concerns GOD'S undeniable existence, supremacy and eternity. Stop worrying about others' belief in GOD! You, like most atheists, will certainly cry for GOD'S mercy at your final moments on this earth.

Akdegreat:
Yes I agree with you. But I was an 'active' Christian. I was captain in our children department then. I participated and represented RCCG East 1 province in children's bible quiz severally, even at National convention in the camp. I was an active chorister. I used to sweep and clean the church premises every Saturday with my parents and siblings. Anyone who knows me can attest.

Akdegreat:


Yes! It was drummed in my mind as early as I could remember. I was also convinced all the time.

However, I took my conscious and self determined step of salvation in September 2007. I joined the baptismal class, got baptized and undertook 'workers-in-training' a training course for intending workers in RCCG. I met and worked under several Pastors

KingEbukasBlog:


The article stated "better source needed" as a way of saying that the veracity of that statement on the New Testament cannot be confirmed . More reputable sources say 80 AD and 96 AD as the final date .

You just took a cursory glance at it ba ?

I forgive you !

dalaman:


When did your God create the universe? You claim you know he exist and you communicate withwith him. Communicate with it right now and give us the exact dayday /date he created the universe and the method /mechanism he used to created the earth.

Akdegreat:
...Gradually, I had stopped going to my church as frequently as before. They had nothing new to teach me. I also began to form my opinions using empathy, rational enquiry, logic and reason rather than religious dogma. I dropped all my superstitions in favour of evidence about the natural world and things in it. I sought to understand the cause of things rather than stare at them in awe and ascribe them to unseen forces. I accepted reality, made informed decisions about my life and took responsibility for outcome of these decisions.
I suddenly developed this 'strange' love for all of humanity irrespective of religion, culture and race, as much, I try to make it enjoyable for everyone around me. Afterall, what's the point in hoping for a blissful afterlife while living a miserable life. I never felt so happy with so much satisfaction. Unfortunately, I tend to disagree severally with religious people on some issues, especially family. It's quite disheartening that they perceive me as 'bad' & 'lost'. All these happened within the space of 3 years, just before my graduation.

I joined Nairaland earlier but recently stumbled on a post and to my amazement, I wasn't alone after all. I'd love to met some people here in person e.g Johnny, winner, sharon and Seun. You guys are great. Though the atheists make such sarcastic arguments, their points are valid most of the time, while many Christians know so little about religion. These arguments really did a good job in further weakening my belief in the Bible God. If He is there, he'd understand my reasons for doubting the Bible account of him. He should be a just judge.

- Akdegreat

Akdegreat:


If you don't mind, could you tell me with sincerity how you came to know this?

skywalker001:
And did your god just exist by chance ? Ray Comfort said "nothing can com out of nothing" when he was askin qstn about existence of DNA. Nw let me ask u this qstn, if nothing can com out of nothing then who created your god ? If there's no proof of how your god com into existence den there's no god. Or u want to tell me that your god just exist out of nothing ?

mastermaestro:


It's your choice! Every entity including where you work, school, and your family has a head, so does this world. GOD is the head. You will answer to HIM when the time comes. Heaven or hell, your choice to make. Others can state it euphemistically, I won't. Accept JESUS CHRIST and be saved to an eternal life with GOD in Heaven, or live as though you were your own god and secure for yourself a one-way ticket to hell.

There is no compulsion in Christianity! Choose whom you wish to serve. To GOD be the glory, I have chosen to follow JESUS CHRIST forever!

hopefulLandlord:
OP, your case isn't strange

people are dumping the delusion of gods and religion and embracing atheism

just go through the below links

https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian

https://www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why

https://www.nairaland.com/3084510/faith-facts-collection-thoughts-experience/

https://www.nairaland.com/2045070/thoughts-questions-religion

https://www.nairaland.com/3292061/christian-atheist

https://www.nairaland.com/3353173/losing-fear-death-unbeliever-christianity

those are some of the many Nairaland accounts that have extricated themselves from those archaic tales written by drunk cavemen who had no idea about how the world works

Atheism is spreading all over the Nigeria, people are finally seeing through the veil of religion used to cover their eyes

pchukwudi:
I’m probably a bit late to the party, but here are two friendly whispers to your inner ears.

1. Religion is WORK - as in, your focus is only on what YOU DID, what YOU ARE DOING, and what YOU WILL STILL DO for God.

Think the ELDER BROTHER of the prodigal son.


But....


2. Christisnity is CELEBERATION - as in, your focus is only on what GOD DID, what GOD IS DOING, and what GOD WILL STILL DO for YOU.

Think the prodigal son.

So, since you're a curious mind, I think KNOWING for sure - not just believing - (what God did for you, what he's doing for you, and what he will still do for for you) is the way to go.

But mind what you read. I'm sure you know that mental poisons come in the form of information.

Wilgrea7:
the thing that causes this kind of stuff is curiosity... curiosity kills the cat.. follow Christianity or else you'll burn forever... hahhaahahahahaha(evil laugh)



JUST KIDDING

ok .. concerning your questions... I've been there before and when u try to ask your theist friends they will accuse u of questioning God. and that can be very annoying

truth is.... the qualities i used to describe God were only from what people told me.. not from research.. when u do research you'll find out many answers.

lemme tell u something about God almighty that makes him God
1. he has no beginning... if he did then he's not God
2. he wasn't created. if he was then he's not God
3. he doesn't send anyone to a burning valley for all eternity.. that was a scare tactic used by your ancient church fathers to keep u in line.. u will be judged and either rewarded or punished according to your actions
4. he is definitely not a sadistic person as people paint him to be
5. his word is infallible.. his word is perfect.. his word is Jesus and not some book.

If u learn the true nature of God you'll know that some things ascribed to him are not actually him but someone else in disguise..

questions are gladly welcomed

dalaman:


No, the question exposes you and the fraud you have been claiming all along. If you truly know that your God exist and you communicate with it as you claim you should be able to give us specific answers to simple questions. When did your God create the universe? You just claimed that you can not know anything with agnosticism and that it is not the right path to follow. What can you know with your own religion? Communicate with your God already and tell us when exactly he created the universe. I know you'll prefer to talk about nonsense drivel instead of answering direct questions that will expose you and the fact that you know nothing about anything.

Akdegreat:
With an honest aim of understanding the nature of God and his wonder displayed in nature, I had set out on a quest for 'truth'. As a very inquisitive person, a sound background in scientific methods further fueled my already curious and inquisitive nature beyond normal.

As a kid, I asked several questions;
"Since God created everything that exist, what if God never existed, and hence nothing whatsoever exists? I often tried to picture a dark and void space remaining that way for all of eternity!! Whenever I did, I got lost in my wild imaginations"
"How did God come to be? Who created him?"
"What if God never created life? How would the earth be then? I often repeated same imaginations again but this time with planets, asteroids and other heavenly bodies. Of course I got lost again, severally"
"What if I was never born? So I would never have experienced the beauty of life? Scary!"
"Why did Lucifer ruin the Paradise? For Christ sakes we all would have been there now. Why didn't God even kill Lucifer at once earlier to prevent it? He knew the future!"

I grew up into a devote Christian with different questions;
"With the so many religions on earth could we possibly be worshipping the same God in different ways?"
"If the God I worship in the bible is the one true God and creator of the universe, would he destroy non-christians in hell simply because they worshipped him wrongly?"
"Would God really condemn a devote Christian to hell after years of righteous living simply because he erred one time and dies without repentance? Would he now allow a person who has done heinous things into paradise simply because he finally accepts the salvation story in the end?". I had many more questions that bothered my mind but I'd stop there.

These questions didn't matter so much as I still upheld the Bible as truth and lived by its doctrines. On a second thought they must have sown the seed of doubt in my mind; a seed that came to germinate later on.
A lot of things happened during my undergraduate study that shook my belief but for the sake of brevity, I'd mention a few..
I held the opinion that "compared to clerics, scientists better understood the awesomeness and magnificence of God". Come to think of it this way, with every scientific discovery, scientists reveal God's wonder in nature while clerics keep 'recycling' doctrines written in our ancient Holy Bible. The beautiful works of God in nature were unreconcilable with the barbarisms attributed to him in the bible. When some Bible claims corroborate with scientific findings we're good, but when 'outrageous' claims are found in the Bible, we are convinced that they're metaphorical with deeper meaning. Gradually, it became obvious that science had more credence compared to religion. My religiosity reduced drastically as well as my total trust in the bible as ultimate truth. Not sure anymore, I wondered if there's a creator (God) or not. I mean, 'the Bible must have so poorly described God' I thought.

Aside from bible, I sought knowledge of God from various books on religion, spirituality and nature. I read the Qur'an and it bored me. I came across "Earth's Chronicles, The 12th Planet, and other controversial books by Zecharia Sitchin. They were indeed controversial, and I asked myself 'how did he know all those things?' The works of Thomas Paine is worthy of mention. I agreed with him largely, especially his 'Age of Reason'. I discussed my thoughts with another 'thinker' (I choose not to mention his name) and he introduced me to the 'Sumerian Texts', the 'Epic of Gilgamesh' among other amazing books. Wow! What have I been doing. They shared similarities with the Bible so I couldn't help but wonder and ask more questions. 'Did I believe in a big lie all these while?' ...


Well like i already said b4, tho i quoted the wrong user, as much as so many people don't know this, the newly found zeal in humans now, especially in the younger generation is because we are entering a new age, the age of Aquarius, And its an age where humans will eventually reach their peak in spiritual enlightenment, its an age that is meant to usher in a new spiritual evolution for man, where the veils of all the lies and and mythology surrounding the true nature of the Universal mind which we all call God will be lifted off from our eyes because just as it as always been in the history of human kind, upon the dawn of every new age, one must shed the Old age. The age of Pisces which is the age we are about completely leaving was an age where the human soul was completely influenced by spiritual forces of the age to try and connect with its long lost spiritual self, an effort to try and explain Our relationship with our divine source, the universal mind which is present in each and every one of us, as a human being or any other life form living on this planet, And so religion and other mythological beliefs were born as an attempt to try and answer these deep and persisting questions of our yearning soul. But now the Age of real illumination and enlightenment has come, and all the obviously ridiculous lies religion is based on will begin to shatter like a broken glass and once that happens, One by one, just like u are doing now humans will eventually discover the presence of the one true universal mind, that entity whose existence is solely based on truth and whose only weapon and tool for bringing existence into being is Love, And when that happens, All humans will come together with a force of joint consciousness To shift the vibrational level of the earth to a much higher one And in doing so, Create a new world where there will be no War, no suffering, No Government, No Money, No Hate, No forms of Ego, selfishness or strive for power by anyone because then There shall only be one Power binding us together, which is our Highly intimate connection with the universal mind, Understanding our oneness and thereby possessing the power of Love, which is still the strongest force in the universe, to eradicate every form of evil from the earth Thereby building a new and perfect world for ourselves, A world of total peace and genuine Happiness for everyone living in it(You can call it paradise on earth if you might). My good friend, do not stop on your quest of finding the truth because it is natural. you are being moved by a powerful but unseen force which is the coming of a new age in human existence, and i am sure you will find your truth before the end of this your current earthly journey. One thing of outermost importance i would like to point out before i leave is that in your search for the ultimate truth, Stay very clear from atheism because it is simply not based on truth. There was a beginning in existence, and before that beginning there was a purpose, And behind that purpose there was a consciousness, A mind That first envisioned that reality, A mind which has never Stopped being because it exists in another dimension outside space and time, outside our physical universe, And our universe is just a manifestation of a Great thought Brought into being by The Infinite and most divine power of Love. We can never in a billion years, even come close to understanding this Entity because as long as we Are a part of this physical universe, Its Existence can ever be fully comprehended by any being in this universe, human or alien no matter how advanced their Evolution might be. Some extraterrestrial beings in the universe might comprehend this entity more than we do to a Way more higher level, But never to its Totality because its existence is Beyond the confines of the space and time reality of our physical universe. Atheism in a way, is a bit like religion, still an attempt By some humans to explain the entity called God but instead decided to choose an escapist way out, by saying it does not exist simply because they don't and cant comprehend its existence. I'd take it that You are a really intelligent and curious person which are exactly the tools u need to become an enlightened fellow. All you have to do is Look really deep inside your mind, your consciousness, be at one with it as you search for the truth and i tell u my brother u will b able to find the real truth, even in the midst of so many lies. You will find your purpose for being a part of that one great mind/consciousness And you will also understand that You are not confined to Any specific Do's and Dont's here on your journey on this earthly realm. Those are just man made devices created to keep you more confined to the system and maintain the balance structure of the New world order pyramid. The only sole Duty ascribed to your soul, and the main criteria for your soul to follow while here on earth, so it can Move to a higher level of spiritual existence, just like the enlightened men of old, who are now being worshiped now as saviors now have always tried to teach us humans(Every single one of them), Are basically just these Three things, and you practice Them on your own, by yourself and to the Best of your ability, which are, THINKING GOOD THOUGHTS, DOING GOOD DEEDS, AND SPREADING THE MOST LOVE YOU CAN TO PEOPLE AROUND YOU, WHEREVER YOU GO, FOR AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. Hope my contribution was quite helpful to your post.
With all love, Have a blissful life of joy, love and Peace my friend.

Seun:

Um, I don't seem to have experienced what you folks are talking about. Becoming an atheist didn't take me to cloud 9 or anything like that.

Akdegreat:


So in essence ...?
You think I did your no. 1 above alone without doing no. 2 ?

EMIOMOADEOYE:


I wont argue or dwell on the points you raised because I have had these kinds or conversations in the past. Beliefs are what they are. Beliefs. And they are formed by the conglomeration of several findings, teachings, doctrines or dogma. Believe it or not allowing your opinions to be ruled simply by empathy, rational inquiry, logic and reason is a dogma in itself. So on the overall view of it, your life is governed by your own personal dogma as much as the clerics have their own religious dogma. And you see the flaw with empathy, rational inquiry, logic and reason is that on a particular matter your stand will never be the same in different scenarios. Its going to be pretty more like shifting sands on a desert. Even you will agree with me that that is not an ideal way to mold your thinking and decisions.

mastermaestro:
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Don't type the nonsense you typed up there again. You can throw your life wherever you choose to, thankfully mine is sealed in the eternally safe arms and Blood of JESUS CHRIST. Most of you claiming intellect do NOT possess a fraction of my analytical ability. You simply are a pliable set of individuals who have fallen for sweet speeches of empty-headed self-righteous miserable atheists.

cloudgoddess:

I don't mean to be rude but this doesn't make an iota of sense. Rational inquiry and reason are literally the antithesis of dogma. Precisely what makes dogma bad is its resistance to change and its insistence on being correct regardless of new competing information. Dogma can not exist in the presence of evidence-based reasoning and relentless inquiry that respects no authority or single source as infallible.

kolaish:
OP, WITH DUE RESPECT, HOW MANY YEARS DO U THINK U WILL SPEND ON THE EARTH? PROBABLY 100 YEARS AT MOST. SO JUST TO WORSHIP YOUR CREATOR HAS BECOME A HUGE AND DIFFICULT TASK FOR U, INSTEAD YOU GO ABOUT USING THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOUR CREATOR GAVE U TO INVESTIGATE AND DOUBT HIS WORKS. REMEMBER, THAT IS HOW LUCIFER STARTED AND BECAME PROUD, WHICH LED HIM TO WHERE HE IS NOW. IF I MAY ASK, WHAT IS SO DIFFICULT IN JUST GIVING DUE REFERENCE TO GOD DURING YOUR FEW YEARS ON THIS EARTH.

GOD IS SO BIG THAT HIS GREATNESS IS UNSEARCHABLE. CAN A CLAY (HUMAN) SAY TO THE PORTER (GOD) THAT YOU DID NOT MOULD ME WELL.

Genesis2000:


Hmm this shows you re very clever and intelligent person.

And these has been my submission for all this while.

And most time people will think am encouraging sin, since i didnt believed on hell. And that is not true, i hate sin and God can bear me witness of that, i also preach about heaven, which is eternal life. And that is the good news which Jesus even brought to us.


Yes, i don't believe that my father can burn me in eternal fire just because i disobeyed him. No no no, i don't believe that, why? Because i myself i can not even do that for even a day, i mean i can't torture a person with fire for 24 hrs for any reason, so why should my father do it for billion billion years. That's wickedness if you ask. And my God is not wicked.


I can tell you categorically that majorities of atheist were former Christians, too bad. But what suddenly happened? Good, those people who is preaching about God are given him a very wrong impression. And people felt while should they be worshiping that kind of a person. I can also tell you that the bible has also been manipulated, and misinterpreted. And that's where the whole problem began.

God bless you sir.

Wilgrea7:

you're 100% correct.. but many dogmas refuse to believe...

all those preaching a wicked God and an eternal hell are tarnishing the image of God.. its the devil who has been a murderer and sadist from the beginning.. its even there in john 8

also, you're very correct about the bible.. its not an infallible book.. i have more than enough proof both logical and historical that the bible as well as other *holy* books have been corrupted.
but the dogmas won't listen.. they tend to hold on to ignorance and call it faith

dorox:


Everything that has a beginning must by necessity come from something, it is an intuitive fact that is self apparent. So if we accept that the universe had a beginning, then logic would dictate that it along with all that is contained within came from something.
God on the other hand is said to not have a beginning, he has alway existed. That is why asking about who created God is meaningless.
Think about it for a second, how can a being that has always existed be created?

jonbellion:
stop using pascals wager as a yardstick for your belief are you forgetting that Christianity isn't the only religion in the world. It also has a number of denominations so how are you sure Catholics are wrong or protestants. After all all other denominations broke out of the catholic church so it is only rational for a catholic to see other denominations as heresy. If you were alive during the inquisition you would have been burnt to the stake if you practised a different christian doctrine(heresy) what of Christianity is wrong, what if Protestantism is wrong What if Mormonism is right. I personally don't see how people can be Mormons but yet people still believe that doctrine that is the power of delusion what if the methodists are right or what if Islam is right you are failing to consider other religions and other christian denominations not to mention I am yet to understand how you guys are 100% comfortable with an innocent man being punished so you a guilty person can escape accountability. You are not even guilty cuz you weren't born during the time of Christ. Another immoral thing punishing people for the sins they didn't commit. You guys call it "original sin" or "adamic nature" this is total bull! How does this make sense A perfect being would not advocate such an immoral flawed system. How would you like it if you an innocent person were brutally punished for the crimes of a rapist. Yet this is what the entire christian doctrine is based upon. I'm sure if we had a chance to save jesus Christ that you claim to love so much you wouldn't save him. Why? cuz that'll means you would be responsible for your own wrongdoing and yet Christianity claims to be moral. We don't practice that kind of barbaric law in our judiciary simply because it makes no sense and is not moral. The cross is a device used for torture and that is your holy symbol. If jesus Christ was killed with a Molotov cocktail that would be the symbol of Christianity. If he was killed with an AK47 that will be the symbol if Christianity. If he was burned to the stake that would be the symbol of Christianity
If God wanted to forgive our sins he could have just forgiven them. He didn't have to send his son to be tortured and killed. A perfect being would know better