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Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by slysteel: 2:08am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:

I am a 3 pointer. A grade I am not even comfortable with. WHAT about you?
You are just an attention seeking E.idiot.

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Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by khadaffi(m): 2:42am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:

My point is that IT SHOULD BE A PREREQUISITE! Along with educational achievements we should also look at life achievements. As citizens we deserve the best. It's puzzling why we seem comfortable with school cert holders as presidents and senators.

Sorry you didn't look at the part where I said "there is a reason for this". Do you even know what the job of a legislator entails. I'll explain in simple terms why BSc will never be a prerequisite. As a legislator, you are chosen by your people to represent them. That means majority of your people want you. You can't tell the people who to like. The reason why the SSCE is required is because it is assumed that with that level of education, you should be able to communicate effectively with Nigerians. That is why even with the SSCE your grades are irrelevant. The legislators discuses issues with their people, and they and their people collectively take a decision and he presents that decision on the floor of the house. What is tactical here that a graduate should be called in? Its like you don't know the function and reason for tertiary education. I believe you are still a student, don't worry in some years time you will laugh at yourself for what you believe today. Good leadership is based on experience not some paper certificate. Moreover if this kind of law is even allowed to stand it will further destroy the educational system.

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Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by livinbygrace: 2:45am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:

I am a 3 pointer. A grade I am not even comfortable with. WHAT about you?

So you never finish school u don dey write all this epistle,abeg park well .You never know anything,its not by certificate but by grace.Good leadership is not by paper certificate alone.
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by YelloweWest: 2:51am On Mar 29, 2017
SalamRushdie:
How many times will you be told that Dino has gone on to graduate with a masters degree ..OP I must say you are a very shallow thinker and it's people like you that must be prevented for holding govt office ...
Well said

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Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by koladed40(m): 3:07am On Mar 29, 2017
That tells us that certificate is not prerequsite for success in life. Besides, there is no political and constitutional constraint to being a senator with a third class. It is nigeria private sector that place more emphasis on first class and second class. Hence, how to maximise profit is their goal focus.
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by mikolo80: 3:25am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:
The ambiguities involving Dino Melaye's certificate scandal has overwhelmed Nigeria's news space. The pertinent reality that only few people talk about is: Either a senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria did not graduate from a university or he graduated with an abysmal grade. It is now clear that a major part of Nigeria's  problem is the high number of uneducated and underqualified leaders occupying important political positions. This is unfortunately accompained with a populace that does not seem to care.‎ 
There was a recent thread of a proud third class civil engr Uniben graduate. While we admire the young man's courage to accept his subpar performance in school, we detest the idea that third class graduates should be allowed to occupy sensitive political postions. Nigerians have to realize that: ONLY excellent and qualified employers can make an organization excellent. Political positions should be treated as an important job vacancy and elections should be seen as a serious job interview.  It is because Nigerians don't pay attention to the qualities presented by 'prospective job applicants' and majorly look at tribe, religion or 'Number of Rice Bags shared' that we are in this mess of a country.
Unintelligent people would reply by saying 'Many People with 2nd class and 1st class are not as rich as some with 3rd class? They go on to proffer as an example, a detestable and morally reprehensible creature like Dino Melaye. The obvious answer is 'the ineffectual and unqualified political office holders are the cause of the failed experiment called Nigeria. The high rates of unemployment and wealth inequality are due to exactly leaders of such groups.

Another class of mentally myopic individuals would cite an example like Goodluck Jonathan, who was a PHD holder but was also mediocre as a leader.‎
The not so obvious ‎answer to this comes in the form of a parable: 'Lack of good tomatoes does not mean we should cook stew with sand'. The fact that GEJ was terrible should spur us on to properly screen our leaders (plus political parties) and request for even better qualities. We should not make the mistake again ‎of selecting someone bad just because average did not work out. 
A country of 180 million people demands someone intelligent and capable to run it. Lives and futures are literally at stake. We should not take the posts of the president and senators as a testing ground for failures in school. A successful organization like first bank will not employ a third class graduate as CEO so why should NIGERIANS accept third class graduates (or complete illiterates) as senators?
someone like who?
did Jonathan not have PhD
uduaghan and Odili and saraki are doctors
osunbor is a professor of law
guy Abeg mowu hia word
every citizen gas the right to be voted for.
this is a democracy not a meritocracy.
first bank was built with private money.
we all contribute taxes to Nigeria.
once you pay taxes you can be voted for
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by tit(f): 3:25am On Mar 29, 2017
all 3rd class should be fired with firing squad
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by mrnigeria(m): 3:32am On Mar 29, 2017
SUPERPACK:
Thomas edison did nt go to school, bt that did nt stop him frm inventing things the educated elites never thought of, even tesla still worked under him with his ambigious certificates,
.
examination is not a true test of knowledge bt rather ability to remember.
Tesla never graduated from university. pls, get your facts right and speak of Tesla with respect. The likes of Tesla are rare.
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by mrnigeria(m): 3:37am On Mar 29, 2017
moblix:
Leadership is not all about grade,so as to destiny.dangote never went to school but he lead well n also do well in business. If u like give country to professor wat is going to happen will still happen. Politics in Nigeria is not about grade,but is full of greedy people
hmm.
dangote is an alumnus of Al-Azhar University, Cairo
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by joseph1832(m): 5:15am On Mar 29, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
This is rubbish... Why isn't Mugabe the best in the world or even Africa? Your educational attainment is not a certificate of leadership competence....


I'm even doing a full article
hope you aren't going to bastardize it with your usual half-truth and falsehood?
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by Tolulope25(m): 5:24am On Mar 29, 2017
SalamRushdie:
How many times will you be told that Dino has gone on to graduate with a masters degree ..OP I must say you are a very shallow thinker and it's people like you that must be prevented for holding govt office ...

I doubt if your 3 pointer degree was genuinely acquired sef, See thinking sha.
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by Kondomatic(m): 5:34am On Mar 29, 2017
nextstep:


Name 3 instances.
After years of looking at the data, Google has found that things like college GPAs and transcripts are almost worthless in hiring . Following these revelations, the company is hiring more and more people who never even went to college.


http://www.businessinsider.com/google-hiring-non-graduates-2013-6
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by AZeD1(m): 6:09am On Mar 29, 2017
nextstep:


. Yet Microsoft and Facebook hire the best college graduates. I don't even think they'd look at your resume if you were 3rd class. How many college dropouts does Google have?
Actually this companies don't give a Bleep about your grades or if you went to school.

www.google.com.ng/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/how-google-hires-people-2013-6

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Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by AZeD1(m): 6:13am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:

You still don't get it. Successfully running a country is not related to how wealthy you may have become. Wealth can be acquired through unscrupulous means. Your mental ability to process information, proffer solutions to problems and apply them decisively is important.
You graduated means you can answer questions that have a solution.
Being a leader is a whole different level.

Judging leadership qualities based on academic excellence is the height of stupidity.

You might be a graduate but you are not smart

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Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by LockDown69(m): 6:26am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:

I think the first bank example will answer your question. If you were the owner of First Bank, will you employ a 3rd class holder as CEO?
OP you're really not in tune with reality, the sooner you realize you shouldn't be using your degree as a yardstick for success the better for you, let us not lie to ourselves, our education system is also flawed.
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by Billion2612(m): 6:35am On Mar 29, 2017
Kondomatic:
A very dumb question.

Some companies employ "brain" not school cert. Some 3rd class holders have some managerial qualities that many people that graduated with first class do not posses. These are people that move the world not those that put all their hopes on their CV.

I am not promoting dumbness but you should know that there are smart people that ended up with 3rd class due to unforeseen circumstances.

Their cert do not define them
GBAM!
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by jegusy2k: 6:35am On Mar 29, 2017
SalamRushdie:
How many times will you be told that Dino has gone on to graduate with a masters degree ..OP I must say you are a very shallow thinker and it's people like you that must be prevented for holding govt office ...
A masters​ degree without a PGD. So 3rd class can move on with master's without post graduate diploma.
Issorait
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by SalamRushdie: 6:39am On Mar 29, 2017
jegusy2k:

A masters​ degree without a PGD. So 3rd class can move on with master's without post graduate diploma.
Issorait

Yes I Just did my research and found out ABU allows it past students to move from 3rd class to Masters if the possess 5 years working experience after graduation

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Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by Kay25(m): 6:40am On Mar 29, 2017
Its your opinnion though but you should learn to be more rational in your approach of disseminating it.whats wrong with the grade??the college drop outs in U.S that made billions are they not better off,most of politicians of the old some of them never stepped into tertiary institution yet they excelled politically and even you making this post with your good grade what positive impact have you made smh for you.you are still an african that has inferiority complex in its mindset thats why you cant grow beyond where you are.what qualifies for a good leadership is not the education but your innate ability to set goals,taking your followers along equally and achieving it.there are people with 3rd grades that are better than first class i can tell you that very well.in my days in university of ife i had a lecturer who made 3rd degree and the other 1 first class you wont believe that people love the 3rd class lecturer cos he teaches effectively than the bogus 1 st class lecturer..was it because of the degree?no the leadership that was lacking..oh boy get up and stop thinking like the way your ancient fathers does life is more than that 1 st class degree you carry and it doesnt determine good leadership.
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by airex(m): 6:42am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:

Exactly my point. We should have never voted a School Cert holder as president. Doing that caused the economic crisis we are enmeshed in.
Shut up....

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Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by Codes151(m): 6:51am On Mar 29, 2017
Upload your cert and university! I would cherish a third class graduate than most of these sorters in school. Besides, most students now if not all sort as a clause!


For your info!! I have seen schools whereby if u missed an exam you collect f.....
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by akoko11: 6:52am On Mar 29, 2017
Nasa28:


Yes. She should have started from there before talking about degree

And I'm sure our brothers from the **** may not agree to the amendment

Funny u
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by invectives(m): 6:53am On Mar 29, 2017
Joythah:
OP Let me help you... Only first class holders should be recognized in life. They should be the only ones allowed to marry each other so we can have intelligent children who won't write the drivel you just comfortably wrote.
Don't mind the foolish OP
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by sen8or(m): 6:57am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:

I am a 3 pointer. A grade I am not even comfortable with. WHAT about you?
Its obvious that not all 3 pointers and above have sense.
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by dmltoyin(m): 6:58am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:

Exactly my point. We should have never voted a School Cert holder as president. Doing that caused the economic crisis we are enmeshed in.
im sorry
Im not attacking you...itz your opinion
Im not a fan of Bubu either
Just saying
To me bubu is qualified in terms of qualification to be the president
A general in the army is of the same rank as a professor in the field of academics ..
My opinion tho
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by linusbnn(m): 7:02am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:

It's good you have brought this up. Does my castigation of Dino automatically mean I support Buhari? Please bro you need to change that mentality of 'If you are against A it means you are for B'. The second part of the post refers to Buhari's inefficiencies. If we had elected someone 'better than average' we won't have been drenched in this economic death storm.


If certificate is the key,why then do you pple keep insulting GEJ?.
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by jaysan82(m): 7:09am On Mar 29, 2017
@op ur write up is ur opinion and I respect it. however,I believe it's flawed and can easily be rubbished. let's start by asking ourselves who a leader is... a leader essentially creates an inspiring vision of the future and motivates people to engage with that vision. you do not need to have the best grades from a university to inspire change or manage people effectively. some individuals are born with leadership qualities while other had to acquire it.
I have met quite a few 3rd class graduates who are sound intellectually and given the opportunity can contribute meaningfully to any government or organization, under no circumstances should they be sidelined. clarity,devisiveness, courage, passion and humility are 5 qualities of a great leader...a 1st class degree has nothing to do with these qualities quite frankly
it's similar to financial intelligence. some semi literate individuals have an enviable degree of financial intelligence(they can spot money making oportunities easily) as opposed to lots of 1st class graduates who seem to only be interested in gathering knowledge and not neccesarily converting it to financial freedom.
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by Raintaker(m): 7:10am On Mar 29, 2017
sammhi:

Thank God we still have intelligent and morally sound people like Doriana2.
are u serious? Intelligence involves the ability to adapt to one's environment and the capacity to learn from experience.
The lady and anyone who thinks she is intelligent belong to the same class(the unintelligent class).
In psychology there are different kinds of intelligence: Social and emotional intelligence inclusive.
It's obvious you guys are fresh graduates or better still undergraduates.
I'm not a third-class degree holder, but I have to let you understand, what you think you know is wrong.

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Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by macsanzy: 7:12am On Mar 29, 2017
Academic excellence is overrated , being a 3rd class graduate doesn't mean you're dull. A whole lot of the so called 1st class graduate can't even defend the result they hold. A notable example is Prof Whole Soyinka. He graduated with third class yet he lectures scholars around the world. Leadership doesn't have anything to do with school grade !

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Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by agabaI23(m): 7:20am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:

I am a 3 pointer. A grade I am not even comfortable with. WHAT about you?
Gani fawhemi--3rd class; Wole Soyinka- Third class
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by egobetatoday: 7:21am On Mar 29, 2017
Doriana2:
The ambiguities involving Dino Melaye's certificate scandal has overwhelmed Nigeria's news space. The pertinent reality that only few people talk about is: Either a senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria did not graduate from a university or he graduated with an abysmal grade. It is now clear that a major part of Nigeria's  problem is the high number of uneducated and underqualified leaders occupying important political positions. This is unfortunately accompained with a populace that does not seem to care.‎ 
There was a recent thread of a proud third class civil engr Uniben graduate. While we admire the young man's courage to accept his subpar performance in school, we detest the idea that third class graduates should be allowed to occupy sensitive political postions. Nigerians have to realize that: ONLY excellent and qualified employers can make an organization excellent. Political positions should be treated as an important job vacancy and elections should be seen as a serious job interview.  It is because Nigerians don't pay attention to the qualities presented by 'prospective job applicants' and majorly look at tribe, religion or 'Number of Rice Bags shared' that we are in this mess of a country.
Unintelligent people would reply by saying 'Many People with 2nd class and 1st class are not as rich as some with 3rd class? They go on to proffer as an example, a detestable and morally reprehensible creature like Dino Melaye. The obvious answer is 'the ineffectual and unqualified political office holders are the cause of the failed experiment called Nigeria. The high rates of unemployment and wealth inequality are due to exactly leaders of such groups.

Another class of mentally myopic individuals would cite an example like Goodluck Jonathan, who was a PHD holder but was also mediocre as a leader.‎
The not so obvious ‎answer to this comes in the form of a parable: 'Lack of good tomatoes does not mean we should cook stew with sand'. The fact that GEJ was terrible should spur us on to properly screen our leaders (plus political parties) and request for even better qualities. We should not make the mistake again ‎of selecting someone bad just because average did not work out. 
A country of 180 million people demands someone intelligent and capable to run it. Lives and futures are literally at stake. We should not take the posts of the president and senators as a testing ground for failures in school. A successful organization like first bank will not employ a third class graduate as CEO so why should NIGERIANS accept third class graduates (or complete illiterates) as senators?

its a good one. But before I read it my thought was to reply with 'what about bread paper candidates' .
Re: Third Class Graduates Should Not Be Allowed To Hold Important Political Posts by profbabatunde: 7:23am On Mar 29, 2017

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