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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 10:09am On Jun 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO:The bible. Next. 1 Like |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 10:11am On Jun 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO: If u choose to twist it to that, well yes. Its calle Mercy. Just like a judge can pardon, God pardoned them. He repented from the payment of their evil. You can twist it to any new sentence u like. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 10:49am On Jun 07, 2017 |
felixomor: My house and my property belong to me, they are inanimate possessions, they do not have souls. They are not autonomous entities. two human being however are 2 different autonomous entities. One person should not pay for the crimes of another. I think this is simple, but perhaps not to you. 3 Likes |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 10:49am On Jun 07, 2017 |
felixomor: Could you please show me where you read that in the bible? |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 10:52am On Jun 07, 2017 |
felixomor: Mercy is NOT repentance from Justice. Yahweh repented of the evil he did. You said the evil he did was justice. Therefore Yahweh repented of Justice. Now to repent means to turn back. That means that Justice/evil had already been meted out. So where is the mercy when the evil/justice had already been done. 1 Like |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 10:52am On Jun 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO:Well the agreement then was that their children belonged to them. Read the Laws. Children are regarded as inheritance during the era of the law. So your questions clearly arise from ignorance of other parts of the law. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 10:58am On Jun 07, 2017 |
felixomor: Was Ezekiel part of the law? 20"The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. Ezekiel Chapter 18 1 Like |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 11:02am On Jun 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO:Mercy is what then? You clearly ignored where I wrote "God is a judge" And then twisted the sentence to "God repented from Justice"..... Yeah right. PastorAIO:Exactly, Its the work of a judge to repay evil with evil. Even if we choose to follow it literally, it applies. PastorAIO:I said the evil with which he used to repay another evil was justice. But u chose to twist it. Or u think I wont notice? PastorAIO:Fallacy of inconsistent conclusion, Following the twist u did above PastorAIO: Another fallacy. Repenting from Justice, can be independent of the past. PastorAIO: Another fallacy following the twist preceding this sentence. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 11:03am On Jun 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO: Ezekiel, Abraham and Moses, who came first? In Chronological order. Please tell us. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 11:22am On Jun 07, 2017 |
felixomor: Mercy is to forgive transgressions.
You said God is a judge, so what? The bible has God saying he repented from evil. You called the evil he did justice. Is the evil God did justice or not? If it is then God repented from justice. If it isn't then you have a case. Really? I thought Justice was to set things to right. To make things right. My mother used to tell me that 2 wrongs don't make a right. It seems to me that you God has human limitations if the only way he can bring about justice is to use Evil.
Okay, so God repented from the 'Evil that he used to repay another evil'. God repented from Justice. Can you give us an example of this? Repent Please read this and comment: There are two words for repentance in the Old Testament Hebrew. One word is “nacham” which means “to be sorry” or “to regret” but the overwhelming majority of the time it is used (391 times) it means “turn” or “return” (“shuwb”).http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christiancrier/2014/05/29/what-is-repentance-bible-definition-of-repent-and-repentance/ 3 Likes |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 11:26am On Jun 07, 2017 |
felixomor: I don't see what this has to do with anything. I asked a simple question because you claimed that in the era of the Laws children must pay for their parents sin like they are property. You have directly and blatantly contradicted the prophet Ezekiel. Ezekiel is considered part of the law. So I asked you a rhetorical question. Is Ezekiel not part of the law? If Ezekiel is part of the law then you told a plain faced lie on the head of your God. Chronology has nothing to do with this point. 3 Likes |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 11:30am On Jun 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO: Besides I am just ignoring the part of earlier Mosaic laws that specifies the punishment on children and forthcoming generations. Let us even Ignore the fact that you are trying to say that Chronology doesnt matter here? legally speaking, the laws that applied to Nigeria before almagamation, are they the same Nigerian laws today? Do u know what an amendment is? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 11:48am On Jun 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO:And how is it different from what has happened here? The Children of God Sinned and Moses Pleaded and they were forgiven. Please how is it different.? PastorAIO:Ehen "So what?" Ok, Good. PastorAIO: The evil is coming after the people did evil and abomination against God. And that is justice. But in your argument, the preceding bible verses doesn't matter. As a matter of fact, chronology doesn't matter at all in your arguments. PastorAIO: Please ask your mother if it is right for a judge to sentence somebody to death? Ask her if it is justice. PastorAIO:YEs, he repented from meting out justice on his children. Next PastorAIO: Jesus Christ Coming to Die for Our Sins, without us asking. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 12:05pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
felixomor: What! Are you suggesting that different part of the Law contradict themselves? Okay. And so you are resolving the contradictions by saying the later part of the law supercedes the earlier part. Or is it the earlier part that supercedes the later part. 1 Like |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 12:07pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO: Are you still trying to imply that chronology doesnt matter in matters the Law? |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 12:11pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
felixomor: The difference is that Evil/Justice was already being meted out. If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up: For I repent of the evil that I have done unto you. Jeremiah 42:10 1 Like |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 12:12pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO:Again, your chronology fails. |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by PastorAIO: 12:16pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
felixomor: Divine Law, we are told, is unchanging. Matthew 5:17-19 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 1 Like |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 12:21pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO:GalatiaNs 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. I hope u see the law Jesus was talking about? Its the ones that also preceded the verse u just quoted. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 1:59pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
Its the work of a judge to repay evil with evil. |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 2:23pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
sonofluc1fer:Like sentencing people to death by hanging. You can say that again. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 2:34pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
sonofluc1fer: And apologize and repent for doing that. Makes perfect sense. |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 2:40pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
dalaman:Where did he apologize? In the roman bible? 1 Like |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 2:48pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 2:50pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
dalaman:Hmm The apology. |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 2:54pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
felixomor: |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by felixomor: 2:57pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 2:58pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by jonbellion(m): 5:20pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by jonbellion(m): 7:20pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by jonbellion(m): 7:22pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
randomperson:I say this a lot but in a different way |
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by jonbellion(m): 7:24pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
JackBizzle:he wont have for all eternity I suppose Na him believe in eternity na |
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