IBpaul:
How will u see yourself if u were born through surrogacy

That doesn't answer his question nah

KingEbukasBlog:


He is rich and famous and fear that he won't find true love or would meet an unfaithful woman who would trick him into marriage and then divorce him just to take a large part of his wealth .

Your Majesty, I thought you said he was a godly man? How can a godly man not marry until he gets so rich to a point of confusion as to who to Marry?

And, how does a godly man depend on his ability and not on God's divine direction to fine a wife?

A man like the one you Just painted up there has trust issues, Can he truly Trust Jehovah?

Now every woman is a suspect to him, are you sure he is a clean man himself?

The picture you painted is hardly a man who walks with God.

felixomor:


Masturbation done for medical purpose isnt a sin.
But u and I know majority dont do it for medical purpose

Masturbation falls under Lasciviousness.
Its a manifestation of the flesh.
It has killed the spirituality of many young men.

I think what makes Masturbation a sin is because the sperms which is meant for procreation gets wasted and again, the lust that goes with it.

Pidgin2:



As to your question, won't they give him pornographic materials to view so that he can get aroused? The photos he looks at to get an erection are not his spouse's image, they belong to other women so he has committed a sexual act with the image of a woman he's not married to

Yeah, that's where lust comes in.

CoolUsername:

Ok, what if he only uses furry tentacle alien hentai?
Edit: But seriously though, is there any situation that it would be ok?

Don't understand you pls.

ScepticalPyrrho:
I'm here to read comments.

Science, making sin, right and wrong, harder to define as we know more about the universe.

Then Observe.

analice107:

Your Majesty, I thought you said he was a godly man? How can a godly man not marry until he gets so rich to a point of confusion as to who to Marry?

And, how does a godly man depend on his ability and not on God's divine direction to fine a wife?

A man like the one you Just painted up there has trust issues, Can he truly Trust Jehovah?

Now every woman is a suspect to him, are you sure he is a clean man himself?

The picture you painted is hardly a man who walks with God.

I thought the same thing too . As a Christian one should ask God for guidance every time and he should trust God's leadership over his life

Ishilove:

Brotherly, this your question get as e be

Why circumvent the natural mode of conception just because you can, not because you need to? Couples who use surrogacy have medical issues, but using it because you don't want to have sex with a woman is vanity. It's evil

And God wants us to have sex to have kids you know?

KingEbukasBlog:


I thought the same thing too . As a Christian one should ask God for guidance every time and he should trust God's leadership over his life

Yes. because, no matter how careful you are, on your own, you'd make mistakes, but when God is involved, the woman will not be perfect, but a woman who will stay.

godly, hard working men of vision should marry early to avoid the Op.

analice107:

Don't understand you pls.

The first part was just me poking fun at the comment that said masturbation for clinical reasons was wrong because it would involve the consumption of pornographic material, where the models would perform sexual acts.

The second one was a legitimate question to know the conditions under which it can be performed guiltlessly.

KingEbukasBlog:


Is it right in the 'eyes of God' for a single Christian man who has never married before to bear children through surrogacy ? You know just to circumvent fornication which is a sin .

Check out the responses of Ishilove, Pidgin2, felixomor and analice107, I believe they gave candid answers to your question.

KingEbukasBlog:
Is it right in the 'eyes of God' for a single Christian man who has never married before to bear children through surrogacy ? You know just to circumvent fornication which is a sin .

... I'm probably more confused than you...
I think ishilove's suggestion holds to some extent though.

This is disappointing. See Christians using head knowledge and human reasoning to determine spiritual matters.

So none of KingEbukasblog, felixomor, ishilove, pidgin2, analice107, Joshthefirst, or Olaadegbu have the holy spirit.

randomperson:
[s]This is disappointing. See Christians using head knowledge and human reasoning to determine spiritual matters.

So none of KingEbukasblog, felixomor, ishilove, pidgin2, analice107, Joshthefirst, or Olaadegbu have the holy spirit[/s].

You have never made sense in any discussion.
Not even on a Monday morning.
Sad

felixomor:


You have never made sense in any discussion.
Not even on a Monday morning.
Sad

.

analice107:

And God wants us to have sex to have kids you know?

Yes indeed. You cannot eat your cake and have it

felixomor:


You have never made sense in any discussion.
Not even on a Monday morning.
Sad

You this half baked Christian. It's obvious you don't have the holy spirit.

BTW, you are the last person that should be talking about making sense... It's common knowledge that you are the nairaland poster boy for intellectual deficiency.

randomperson:


[s]You this half baked Christian. It's obvious you don't have the holy spirit.

BTW, you are the last person that should be talking about making sense... It's common knowledge that you are the nairaland poster boy for intellectual deficiency. /s]X

Still no sense.
Sad

felixomor:


Still no sense.
Sad

Am not surprised tho'.

You already told us that the way God intelligently designed your brain, it's in perpetual sleeping mode

randomperson:

[s] Am not surprised tho'.

You already told us that the way God intelligently designed your brain, it's in perpetual sleeping mode [/s]

U must not be foolish at all times
Please try and make sense.
Its monday.
Haba

Ishilove:

Brotherly, this your question get as e be

Why circumvent the natural mode of conception just because you can, not because you need to? Couples who use surrogacy have medical issues, but using it because you don't want to have sex with a woman is vanity. It's evil

I'm with Ishilove on this.

Because there's now an option for you to have children apart from the normal process, you now see no need for a woman all because of the excuse you're scared of infidelity and the likes. If he really doesn't want to commit sin, he should go and adopt. Adoption is better and sound moral than using a surrogate.

Have you thought of what happens to the surrogate mother? The mental torture they go through after giving birth without having access to the child? What if they're doing it because of money? Do you have an idea how such will carry the pregnancy for those number of months with grief?

What about those that use married women because they feel they have a high rate of fertility as surrogate mothers - is that fair? What about single mothers? Will one feel justified using single ladies to bear child for them and leave them like that? What's now the difference between those having baby mamas and him?

Do you know he would have to select the surrogate mother himself in most cases and that's by natural instincts and physical factors like how beautiful she is and the rest. Do you think that's God's way of choosing? do you think God will prefer the woman they eventually choose? Do you think God will even give him direction as to the kind of surrogate mum he should choose? We're talking about a single man here.

Besides, he might be using the eggs of the surrogate mother, is that not taking the child away from the mother? What will he tell the child when he grows? Is that a story pleasant to our ears or to the ears of God? And if no, do you think it would be pleasant to the child's ears? What will He tell others, his friends, peer groups? What will be his emotional strength after hearing it?

It's better if the child has someone to call a mother but maybe she couldn't conceive normally so they had no option than to go for a surrogate. Even with that they can try using the eggs of the mother and that seems very OK.

KingEbukasBlog tell the man he is very selfish, very very selfish and stingy. Tell him to first think of others he will use to achieve the process, like the woman and the birth child.

And tell him if he really needs children, God would be more pleased with him if he goes for orphans. There are lots of unwanted babies around and the man, within him will feel fulfilled immediately because he will know as a Christian he has done the right thing and the better thing when he adopts.

Thank you

But ebuka, I hope you're not talking about yourself ooo

analice107:

Your Majesty, I thought you said he was a godly man? How can a godly man not marry until he gets so rich to a point of confusion as to who to Marry?

And, how does a godly man depend on his ability and not on God's divine direction to fine a wife?

A man like the one you Just painted up there has trust issues, Can he truly Trust Jehovah?

Now every woman is a suspect to him, are you sure he is a clean man himself?

The picture you painted is hardly a man who walks with God.

You can say all that again. I'm with you

randomperson:
This is disappointing. See Christians using head knowledge and human reasoning to determine spiritual matters.

So none of KingEbukasblog, felixomor, ishilove, pidgin2, analice107, Joshthefirst, or Olaadegbu have the holy spirit.

see what I mean?

https://www.nairaland.com/3844519/meaninglessness-deep-personal-relationship-jesus

bennyann:



Have you thought of what happens to the surrogate mother? The mental torture they go through after giving birth without having access to the child? What if they're doing it because of money? Do you have an idea how such will carry the pregnancy for those number of months with grief?

ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE!!!!

These women knew what they were getting into, its not like they were forced at gunpoint to sign for surrogacy

they don't have access to the child BECAUSE they agreed to it!

it seems you have a superficial knowledge of surrogacy and you're filling certain knowledge gaps of it by making things up

hopefulLandlord:


Hehehehehehehehe

see what I mean?

https://www.nairaland.com/3844519/meaninglessness-deep-personal-relationship-jesus

Mr man,
You dont know how the body of Christ works.

felixomor:
Mr man, You dont know how the body of Christ works.

of course!

hopefulLandlord:


of course!

Good.
And thats why the link u pasted is not in anyway related to this topic.

felixomor:
Good. And thats why the link u pasted is not in anyway related to this topic.

eh?

bennyann:


I'm with Ishilove on this.

Because there's now an option for you to have children apart from the normal process, you now see no need for a woman all because of the excuse you're scared of infidelity and the likes. If he really doesn't want to commit sin, he should go and adopt. Adoption is better and sound moral than using a surrogate.

Have you thought of what happens to the surrogate mother? The mental torture they go through after giving birth without having access to the child? What if they're doing it because of money? Do you have an idea how such will carry the pregnancy for those number of months with grief?

What about those that use married women because they feel they have a high rate of fertility as surrogate mothers - is that fair? What about single mothers? Will one feel justified using single ladies to bear child for them and leave them like that? What's now the difference between those having baby mamas and him?

Do you know he would have to select the surrogate mother himself in most cases and that's by natural instincts and physical factors like how beautiful she is and the rest. Do you think that's God's way of choosing? do you think God will prefer the woman they eventually choose? Do you think God will even give him direction as to the kind of surrogate mum he should choose? We're talking about a single man here.

Besides, he might be using the eggs of the surrogate mother, is that not taking the child away from the mother? What will he tell the child when he grows? Is that a story pleasant to our ears or to the ears of God? And if no, do you think it would be pleasant to the child's ears? What will He tell others, his friends, peer groups? What will be his emotional strength after hearing it?

It's better if the child has someone to call a mother but maybe she couldn't conceive normally so they had no option than to go for a surrogate. Even with that they can try using the eggs of the mother and that seems very OK.

KingEbukasBlog tell the man he is very selfish, very very selfish and stingy. Tell him to think of others he will use the achieve the process, like the woman and the birth child.

And tell him if he really needs children, God would be more pleased with him if he goes for orphanages. There are lots of unwanted babies around and the man, within him will feel fulfilled immediately because he will know as a Christian he has done the right thing and the better thing when he adopts.

Thank you

But ebuka, I hope you're not talking about yourself ooo

You couldn't have said it better

hopefulLandlord:


ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE!!!!

These women knew what they were getting into, its not like they were forced at gunpoint to sign for surrogacy

they don't have access to the child BECAUSE they agreed to it!

it seems you have a superficial knowledge of surrogacy and you're filling certain knowledge gaps of it by making things up

To you I'm always making things up and I think this time, it's because I thought deeper than you putting every victim into my concern.

Haven't you heard of a surrogate mother trying to have access to the child before?

Like you don't know because you signed up for something doesn't mean within you, you're all in. What if you think you're in now and later you realized you can't stay in. people force themselves to do things sometimes because it's beyond their control. So please stop sounding like many enjoy doing it.

We are talking about 'mothers' forget the surrogate attach to it and think on this and this is for nine months......

felixomor:

Good.
And thats why the link u pasted is not in anyway related to this topic.

Don't mind him. All he and his ilk are interested in is how to blaspheme and thus go about it lickity-split, no sense whatever.

felixomor:

U must not be foolish at all times
Please try and make sense.
Its monday.
Haba

Abegii...

Come up with something new for once. U just keep churning out the same inane comments.....
Or are you a programmed robot?