gatiano:
Obviously! Better a discussion with clear argument than a debate.
I'm not a jew, An Israelite? maybe, I am not sure as all other Africans and African emigrants. Africans in diaspora, The descendants of those African captured and sold into slavery 500 years ago are 100% Israelites. We are all Africans, the original word is "AFARAKA"; "AFER" means flesh body, "RA" means the Spirit self and "KA" means the Soul. The Black People has these 3 (Body, soul and spirit) in them. Ra can also be "BA". Some people refer to "Ba" as spirit while some other refer it as the soul. The alphabet "a" can be interchanged for the alphabet "i". Thus BIAFRA means BI AFA/AFER RA (Soul, Body and Spirit).

Where do Black People come from? My reply is Black People came from eternity and going to eternity without a end. They are all and they are all one.

whats the difference

Ihuomadinihu:

Thank God you called it a ''claim''.

ok

a never ending debate

pleep:


This baby is called Alam Musham Shekel-chukwo he was discovered in igboland wearing a woven kippa and speaking in the ancient Hebrew language. Some of what he has spoken has been recorded, written down in 3 ancient scrolls.

These writings are the foundation of the origin of the Igbo people in the land of Isreal.

hmm interesting

there needs to be a debate on this

so which is it, are you jews or not

Ihuomadinihu:

Igbos are just igbos and they share their dna with most West Africans. Even as an igbo, i get curious when i see folks that could pass as biracial.
We are just made like that.

can you explain this thread then of the Jewish ancestry claim that I have heard from some igbos on nairaland

https://www.nairaland.com/226540/igbos-descendent-sudanese-igala-mixed

Kagarko:
Possibly they are linked with white ancestors.

Enviromental (sunlight) and chemical (creams) factors could be another reason.

Maybe a combination

ucheheart:
Our fore fathers were white men before they came to africa then sunlight tanned their skins.

The Jews, Europeans or both?

onitshaigbo:
Igbos are Jews, meaning that instead of originating from Africa, our ancestors came from the land of Israel. We've only had a few centuries to adapt to the climate in this part of Africa, and so our skin is not as dark as the indigenes.

Makes sense I guess

Many of them have white ancestry

parisbookaddict:


Germany predicts a million of them will seek refugee status in their country this year

More than 10000 are heading to america france uk ..they are spreading fast..

Omg God forbid

johnydon22:
Islam is a religion of peace and they will kill you just to affirm that...

Just take a look at humans behaving like brainless cows, burning flags, carrying placards with threat of violence and death.

Even cows are far more civil.... All because they want to prove they got the better bullshiiit...

Just be happy most of these fools are stuck in the middle east

GenbIoodykiller:
talk less do more - bokoharam

talking like market women - Buharian army

no thanks to snake charming bastard demon kunu drinker buruntashi and his boss gworo chewing bastard burukutu sipping gorilla mumuhamado mumuharii

give Buhari a chance he just started....while boko haram has had years spreading their terror

Rivertemz:

I repeat ! This is an American problem, not ours! The black race isn't a collective, we don't go through the same rubbish here in Africa

lol, you speak the truth...I guess they didn't get that this is nairaland

Just thank God he is no longer president

bigfrancis21:
I'd say go ahead and let the boy have his father's last name. This is the naming trend even in America where children take the last names of their fathers anyway. I don't see why it should be different with the Nigerian father. The baby can have an English first or middle name given by you which I am sure that the baby's father won't have an issue with.

Yorubas I know are very particular about maintaining their culture from generation to generation and it is not something they play with. Left to the father, he would prefer to give the child all authentic Yoruba first, middle and last names even though the child looks as biracial as rapper Drake.

It is said that Nigerian men will always go back to marry from within their own, even after marriage and possibly kids with a non-Nigerian spouse. I guess you are giving him the further reason to get a Nigerian spouse with which he would have kids who will proudly take on his Yoruba culture and identity.

If you decide to insist on naming the Nigerian baby (as seen from the Nigerian angle as the Nigerian society is patrilineal and ancestry follows the paternal side strictly) your American last name, you stand the chance of raising the child all by yourself and the Nigerian father could not be the least bothered when he has an obedient Nigerian spouse and a house full of children all bearing authentic Nigerian names. Also, your son may stand the chance of not being considered as the 'first son' by his father and accorded full rights of a son thereof (first son is a biggie in Nigeria and often inherit parental properties and ownerships) and instead all rights due to your son as first son will be accorded to his 'first son' from his Nigerian spouse, who is technically the second son, counting from the man's side. We all know the case of the family of the popular Biafran warlord, Ojukwu's and his actual first son who Ojukwu did not recognize as first son but his younger brother from another spouse who Ojukwu accorded full rights to as first son. Such cases are common in Nigeria where the first-born male isn't the recognized first son but the younger brother is.

Also think of your son's future and the possibility of his blaming you tomorrow for being the partial cause of the absence of his father in his life. Children, especially sons, will always grow up to look for their father, no matter how close they are to their mothers. When males begin to grow up, they naturally gravitate towards their patrilineal - not matrilineal, family side,. When your son grows up, he will definitely begin to ask questions - where his father is from, if he could visit his father, why his father left, his father's name etc. There have been several threads opened on this forum by foreigners with Nigerian fathers who were distant in their lives coming on this forum looking for their dads or seeking help in locating their Nigerian fathers.

Sometimes in life, all it takes is to yield a little bit for peace to reign.

High five

Very we'll said

bigfrancis21:

How sure are you that things will remain the same in about 30 years to think that the child would inherit more possessions from you than the father? Do you realize that the world changes and conditions change? You're being well off today does not mean you will be well off tomorrow. You might be better off than the Nigerian today by virtue of his being a recent immigrant to the US but that does not mean that things will remain the same in 20 to 30 years time.
Do you also realize that you are being selfish by placing your desires first over your child's? You would rather have your child grow up without a father just because you wish to deprive him of his paternal last name - a custom still present till today even among white Americans, which I am very sure you are belong to? Or perhaps you think he is an immigrant and therefore you can ride over him easily or what?
You didn't come to this forum to 'understand' his culture. What is it about naming a child after his father's last name - a trend still present in America, that you do not 'understand' that you decided to come to this forum to 'understand'? Or perhaps you came to see if you could get Nigerian supporters on your side just to give you a solid case to insist against the baby's father that some Nigerians even support your decision?
Just know that that baby will grow up to look for his father. You will be the recipient of the blame and animosity tomorrow from the very same child you think you are protecting their interest when he will stand up to your face, after finding out the real reason his dad left, and tell you that you made him miss out on fatherly love and care and his father was right after all to insist that he (the baby) takes after his last name, after all you yourself took after your dad's last name and not a dad-mom name conglomerate.
It is not my business anyway but I just wanted to throw it out there.
Have a nice 20 years ahead.

I agree with you ooo

But the OP wants to fight, just read how she responded to you. I wish these westerners stop asking questions like these on this forum cause they don't want to hear the truth

Nwaiberibe:

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
Meanwhile, are u trying to sell urself? And why are u pouting?

This thread is going to become a tribalistic thread soon, and I think the op is aiming for that.

Why is this thread on the culture section not the romance or fashion section

BlackKenichi:
Thanks to the combined efforts AMISOM, Somalia is starting to bounce back after 20years of Somalis messing it up.
Yet our resident Somali fuckboy troll is still deluding himself thinking and writing that Somalis are invincible, Middle Easterners are not glass chinned, Bantus are always slaves and West Africans are Bantu.
Seriously you couldn't make this ish up.

Here are some of the troll's delusions:
https://www.nairaland.com/1864582/which-countries-most-beautiful-girls/20#29122667
https://www.nairaland.com/1864582/which-countries-most-beautiful-girls/20#29145389
https://www.nairaland.com/1864582/which-countries-most-beautiful-girls/21#29151264
https://www.nairaland.com/1864582/which-countries-most-beautiful-girls/21#29151264
https://www.nairaland.com/1971376/beautiful-handsome-bantu-people-photos/4#29132595
https://www.nairaland.com/1971376/beautiful-handsome-bantu-people-photos/5#29151729<--- The Funniest one!
https://www.nairaland.com/1864582/which-countries-most-beautiful-girls/21#29152117

I wonder what this fool will think of next!?

lol mental people

Mwenyi:

Either igbos are evolving into the caucasoids or they could be telling us people who brought E1b1a to west Africa were light skin north East Africans. Igbo retaining light skin from north east Africans while other E1b1a bearers lost it. That possibility bothers me to no end. LOL! There is another case of a Nigerian woman married to a white man giving to a 100% white kid. How is that possible? The woman must have some Eurasia admixture for that to happen. Where is the scientific explanation for this phenomenon? I still believe Igbs are mixed somewhere. A proud people just can't up and claim middle eastern origin without some truth to it.

I heard about that lady to who had a white child, she is igbo and her husband white british. she has some european ancestry down the line. I believe to that igbo's, not all but many of them are mixed with white down the line. even ones that are recent mix they claim as full igbo as well, like this actress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Madekwe , this actress is only 1/4 igbo but I remeber a guy a few years back was claiming she was pure igbo until I checked her history and found out she was mixed. Many igbo's claim being connected to jewish people and etc so maybe theres some truth to it I guess

Missy89:
Time for the thieves in Ferguson to start looting the town and pretend as if they are protesting

they already started

This thread is still going on

soulglo:


I agree that a lot of what people scream racism for is simply not racism but I do believe also that bad cops will harass anyone who they feel they can get away with harassing. There's nothing more dangerous than a fool with a weapon. Many people who join the force join it for the wrong reasons. They likely feel inadequate in life and like the idea of people complying and showing respect to their badge. You might not know this but in the last 10 years gun sales have risen sharply in the US. People just don't trust the government or anything in uniform. It's really not a black thing. Phuck the police is not just an inner city anthem anymore. I live in a predominantly white state now and people love their guns here. The police will not walk into a middle class suburb and force themselves into a home without a warrant. They do this all the time in trailer parks and other lower income neighborhoods. I believe most of these cases simply have an elitist angle and not always racist. I say this very carefully because the mere shade of your skin will give an ignorant cop a preconceived opinion of you. If he goes by that preconceived opinion and approaches you with that it might not go well. On the other hand if he approaches you with this preconceived opinion of you and then asks you a few questions and you answer back confidently with no issues that perception might change. What bothers people is this idea that you have to prove that you are not like "them". I think those of us born to African parents lucked out in that we did not grow up with this mentality that white people are superior or out to get us. So while I know that racism is real I don't get nervous when I see a cop unless of course I was speeding. I have not even had a speeding ticket in over 10 years even though I have a heavy foot.


For the record I believe Trayvon Martin's execution was racially motivated. We are not sure about Ferguson but Trayvon's was.

you are correct but you are responding to crazed people

let them keep fighting

both economies seem to be a mess

wheres the source

not a place i intend to live in anyway

Nihilist: I don't see African Americans having solidarity with Africans on the continent during our numerous troubles though...

So why should I care?

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their sick

terrorist indeed

ChristyG: not everybody here is telling d truth,some of their stories sound very fake.intra tribal marriage is still in d majority especially among the major 3 tribes

True, inter-tribal marriages in Nigeria are low

fairheven:

There are a whole lot of IBO/HAUSA couples,especially the Ibo women that were forced into marriage by HAUSA solgdiers during the civil war.

well it makes sense, the women had no choice

This is fake

KingTom:
Yoruba and Igbo will be a must for them

at least you want to try but it depends on who you marry as a wife, the mothers have strong influence on the kids.