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the land flowing with milk and honey.
merry Christmas.

Samfigo1:
Bro... help me with that abeg!

It is said if you wan see old mama teeth, for outside, make you ask about the flow of her period.

your question and the 'gagut' theory are meant for people like Dr. Oyibo and Emeaguali o, e pass me IQ.

Ask me when Awo was born, ehen, I will jump up and tell you everything. you know what?

We can tuck this question in hundred questions for ooni on naira land, maybe a palace agent can even solve it.

IFA go fit know the answer,
and babalawo people.

quid:
^^^ Better to do what Mayor de Blasio did

that is, if you have his kind of intelligence: Kinesthetics.

there are other forms of intelligence, spring of obstacles and child of necessity.

nature gives to us obstacles, but need push us to necessities. fight or flight.

inventiveness does not destroy problems, it creates bypass.

We can't destroy a sea to get to an enchanted colony,

but we can design solution that beat the problem.

imaging if the sea is an obstacle and you want to dam it.

kleek:
I love being black, thats why im trying to rid our race of stupid people.

That's the thought of a childish brain, you are very stupid at some things, should a smart person delete you?

Were you created by a smart man? what's 'smart' in a smart man that put the life of the weak at his mercy?

A smart man is the man that create solutions, not one that destroys problems.

Yenugo?

kleek:
If writing yeye poetry resulted in economic development africans would be the richest people on earth.

You live the loser's reality.

do racial surgery to evade your silent woes,

do what Jackson did.

MetaPhysical:
There is a fiber of thread that links Yoruba and ancient Hebrew together. I subscribe to the Samuel Johnson narration of Yoruba migration (which was echoed in Muhammadu Bello's Tarikhi).

Ancient Hebrew, not the modern!

Very well, I'm not a fan of Ben Gurion or Nethanyahu, though they are good people building what remained of what they called home.

I'm not a fan of modern Israel either, but I wish her people well just as I wish other people of the world.

I think we think alike on the migration.

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Kingkamal:
Bola ige died naturally

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next time say
bola ige was killed naturally.

your majestic thread has been closed, can you think of another sick titles?

and make sure you burrow very deep.

That's the way you always shield your ostrich head in vain and delusions.

only a fool call himself a sage.

atupa sakabula

saka: strike

bula: kaboom.

old folks get sense.

I made it,
thank you Jesus

I miss childhood,

such a great time.

I did all of these and more.

Our girls did ten ten, suwe, etc.

and just only few know this:

my mother told me,

that she would buy me,

another dolly,

in for a good, good, good

a little prayer,

another dolly friend,

another jolly friend.

for ever more, 1234, doremido.

kini gbedo gbedo fe figi ogede gbe?

kilategun fe figi gedu se?

oro mi lowo oluwa, lo wa.

aimasiko loun damu edaa o,

oro mi lowo oluwa lo wa.

This particular one always play in my head as a kid, dunno what it means then.

misarifoma, misarifoma, misarifoma sade.

Inter-reformer, inter-reformer, inter-reformers Ade.

kini gbedo gbedo fe figi ogede gbe?
kilategun fe figi gedu se?
oro mi lowo oluwa, lo wa.
aimasiko loun damu edaa o,
oro mi lowo oluwa lo wa.
This particular one always play in my head as a kid, dunno what it means then.
misarifoma, misarifoma, misarifoma sade.
Inter-reformer, inter-reformer, inter-reformers Ade.

MetaPhysical:
I love this.


God bless and continue to enlighten you prexios!

Oh my,


thanks and amen.

I know we all have our angles, and that's democratic.


You don't really, really like the Hebrew angle of the Yoruba traditions o.


But I will be glad if you give it a thought. You are a leader.


Please do.

MetaPhysical:
I can understand. I will try to be regular and show stronger presence.
Aku ipa le mo odun o!

awa niyen o baba, odun ayo lamaa se o.
Welcome my brother. All my best wishes.

2prexios:
It is not the sun that rule the night, blessed soul, it is the moon that rule the night.

The Yoruba have the one that has to do with the sun that rule the day. But that version got corrupt along the way:
Sonpono Elenpe nana Ajobo. Thats Obaluaye, that is, Oba- Olu-aye. The Yoruba has vilified this with Olode, tita, Igbona.

They were only trying to spot that term "Yoruba" with the lighthouse. They were mariners of old.

I still enjoy my cognomen as a descendant of the great Ohori people,
from my paternal grandma. She's from Ketu. So grandma says my oriki thus:

Jaka ara weme,
Omoba tente lori omi.

Jaka's brethren, people of the book.
The prince that float on the edge of the sea.

Then, our folksong goes thus:

Oyinbon fun gala o,
omo alaketu, ketu kenafe.
By the way, Ohori is a Yoruba word: Oho ri

The discovery of the people who fled.
Ho is the same as Sa, to flee from home.

Happy nu year.

This suffice for ketu traditional stuff that I promised before my absolute success handle was banned by a mud.

I'm particular about the cognomen, Jaka, which is Yoruba variant for Jacob.

Let's see how various tradition is entangled to this connection between the people of the bight of Benin.

The version existing in mainstream Yoruba as jaka is to be found in the name Oyo Ajaka.

Elsewhere, Jaka is also to be found in Dahomey as ancestral name, Agbomey, (abomey), means 'people of the seeker'.

They have a very accurate tale, but I won't delve into that anyway, but only how traditions connects.

Just like their ketu counterpart, the Agunmenu, a branch of the greater Tori people (agunmenu, egun) equally alludes to Jaca.

'Ahoru Jaca' they called him. He is the progenitor of the 'wae nu'. Wae means 'people of the grey hair couple.' Ahoru means king.

Owa, means grey hair. And the people take great pride in calling themselves 'Ahoru Jaka ni vigevu e', meaning children of king jaca.

Just as you have it in ketu, where a passage alludes to 'Jaka ara weme', meaning people of the book, omoba tente Lori omi, the prince floating on the surface of the sea.

Ohori is a variant of tori. Tori means upon the sea, or probably Yoruba word meaning itori, river tracking, seafaring.

Ohori could mean discovered after the retreat, or ultimately from owori, wandering discovery.

There are worthwhile linguistic resources pointing to various etymology.

Wemeh dangbo

A place is called 'wemeh' in Dahomey, they call it wemeh-dangbo. this actually meaning 'people of the book, great wanderers'.

Dangbo can also be said to mean great serpent, Dan is the word for serpent among the egun people, and it is the totem of Dan, a Bible character.

'Dan shall be a serpent by the way, a viper by the path...'Gen. 49. This was perhaps how oriki began. Was this how Dan became serpent?

Waenu are part of the family that venerated Dan, whom they called 'baba', meaning 'father' in Yoruba.

Let's find a stunner in the line of chanter they recites when they are in festive mood to the totem of their ancestors.

Ato!
Asue!
Apakrioko!
Wenjivigbo!

Egbo flinflin gbo giglo,
Yanbio meh wema ton,
Atoponji maduje,
o babao, o le se.

the meticulous,
the husbands,
wandering killers in the wilderness.
who sire, the great.

he sire the small and sire the grown,
pursued into the people of the book.
atoponji will not eat salt,
O father, he can do it.

Twice now we have come about rhyming terms, jaka, Jaca, of two African people who speak different languages, egun, anago.

Another is people of the book. The people venerating Dan said they were 'pursued into people of the book'.

The ohori says they were of the people of the book, and the weme, (the actual people of the book here by name) said they were a great wanderers.

However, the stunner is, the term 'wemeh' is paraphrased in Wae's chants to the totem of their ancestry,

'meh wema ton' meaning 'people of the book' (meh, people; wema, book; ton, of the). This people never know their traditions align, but I know because I'm mixed.

Try Google 'people of the book' yourselves.

We did have a cutting edge tradition, a resounding history, though chequered, but stunning.

We are not Lab rats, whose history must be determined by foreign forensic-designs from unknown donors,


Let the ruling house look up to God,
Let the slaves look up to their masters.

segebobo:
This doesn't depict a failed nation at all. Nigeria isn't as bad as Congo in terms of aviation records

Lol, we bested the worst.

magmack:
d guys are proud of their innovation.
See how they r climbing up n down d ladder to their eventual ruin.
Naija is a blood sucking nation.

you see, anytime I'm crossing the road, I look left right and up to the sky in case a plane is coming down.

You don't want to be caught unaware by this flying molue in the sky. Perilous aircrafts of the end time.

caricatalk

Usjimy:
Weti pepper dey give sef?

that's canyene pepper,
pepper help stimulate the salivary gland to aid digestion.
pepper help deplete coronary blood clot, to free your arteries and veins.

scully95:
According to Punch Publication, the new Ooni of Ife said, “I have no regrets whatsoever for kneeling down to exalt the almighty God who did not only create me, but also kept me alive, saw me through all the storms in my, life-journey and eventually crowned me as the custodian of Oodua race.”
Olodumare/Eledumare created heavens and Earth, sent Orunmila to creat Ile Ife (The Earth). The first Ooni of Ife and the rest were regarded as “Igbakeji Orisa“, the custodian of all Irunmoles and Oodua race according to Yoruba Mythology.

What does the New Ooni of Ife mean when he said, "he's the Custodian of Oodua race but not of Irunmoles/Gods/Orisas ?

Some would argue that Real Yoruba Oba (king) doesn’t attend church just like King of Saudi Arabia and Emperor of Japan will never worship at any other place than Mosques and Temples respectively. Queen of England is the head of Anglican church worldwide. Ooni of Ife is the second in command of all Olorisas worldwide and is regarded as Orisa himself whenever he puts on his Ade Ori (Crown).
Some also said, “there’s is no reason for Ooni to worship at any other place than the Shrines and Temples of Obatala, Oduduwa, Ogun, Orunmila and other numerous Irunmoles that descended at Oke-Ora, Ile-Ife.

“There should be no compromise on the part of the newly elect Ooni, the ADIMULA, the savior of the Yoruba race to attend any church or mosque. He must not compromise his mandate unless his dynasty has been conquered by the Queen, the head of the Anglican church.”
Is it an Abormination to be leader of Oodua race but not be the second in command of all the Inrumoles in Yoruba Mythology ?

Ooni Of Ife is not the Igbakeji of Oyinbo Jesus, See Why (Access to Information is Powerful)
Information is Powerful
To those who are supporting the Ooni of Ife, this is how the idea of divine right of kings works:
In the Yorubaland, Olodumare is the mythological father, and the Ooni Adimula is his vicar on earth.
In Ancient Egypt, Ausar (i.e. Osiris) was the mythological father. The SUN, personified by Heru (I.e. Horus), was Ausar’s visible manifestation on earth, and the pharaoh was Ausar’s vicar on earth.

In Ptolemaic Egypt, Serapis (i.e. Osiris + Apis bull) was the mythological father, and the Ptolemaic pharaoh was his vicar on earth.
In the Roman system, Jesus (i.e. an adaption of Serapis) was the mythological father. He was also his own visible manifestation on earth as the SUN, personified as the SON, and the Pope is his vicar on earth.

The Anglican system is the same as the Roman system except that the Queen is the vicar of Christ on earth.
In conclusion, the doctrine of divine right of kings is relative to one’s environment and culture. The Ooni of Ife is the Adimula Igbakeji Orisa n’la. The Ooni is not the Igbakeji of Oyinbo Jesus, for Oyinbo Jesus and Olodumare are not synonymous at all.
It’s Oba Ogunwusi’s prerogative to praise and worship whoever he wants but not in his capacity as the Ooni of Ife, the Arole Oduduwa.
We call upon all the Yoruba kingmakers to desist from enthroning intellectual infants as Obas.
Ifa D.
Is it Polically Correct To Say that the new Ooni Of Ife is 3 in 1 ?
and if so, would it not be okay to stay out of the main 3 just for the sake of peace and to prevent conflict of interest or better still visit Ifa Chief priest or shrine and later Mosque just for the sake of peace ?

The last Ooni of Ife did not show himself like this new one.

you people put too many lies in place to make the man larger than life,

he has shown you all are lies and he's human after all.

The days of mystery are gone, an epoch of truth and simplicity has started.

let the atheist chairman of Punch sort Yoruba history out once and for all.

he did it for Punch he can do it for Yoruba land.

Oun e ri e wi, oun e ri e ro,
Ogunwusi seun epe ko se.

You asked him to be Ooni, he obliged, now you still want to dictate his choices.

Leave him to the irumoles.

Koreans evolved from pigs.
I'm only joking.
I will apologize later, please.

Ezechinwa:
There are some good primary schools out there!!!

see the proprietor of

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Be your brother's keeper, tell a road user the conditions of traffic in our major roads across Lagos metropolis.

As at this moment, a very terrible hold up is stretching from iponri to Ojuelegba on the bridge.

several tankers and trucks are present, dividing the road to two stretches that's not really moving.

Please use alternative route if you need to use this road. Do we have LASMA officials here? How's Apapa road?

thanks.

then suppose to arrest the fufu instead.

lawani:
You are talking like a non native speaker

I want to believe you are navigating somewhere the way you used to do. Do you know all Yoruba word in existence?

You once told me not to buy Fulani version of Yoruba history, because they were new on the plane,

only to come back with the tales of Lamurudu, (when the very person that gave Yoruba that word claimed that it came from Nimrod in the account he quoted as written by sultan bello).

I don't like clever people, put in your ideas and defend it, don't twist mine, I am not interested in being the authority, but being truthful.

shi (mi) is the one you are talking about and shi (doh) is the one in oshi meaning poverty. They are totally different. The Odu Ofun is talking about giving in my opinion. Ofun means giver. And Odu Ofun meji talks about Obatala who is seen as benevolent but I am not an expert. Efun is chalk, so it may mean chalk of any colour but mainly white chalk. Funfun is white. Efunyela will mean Wealth goes along with the white chalk. The white chalk represents a deity that was much reverred in the past, it may be Obatala.

That expression O ti shi used in that context have never been encountered by me. That is not a common Yoruba expression. O ti bo ra is used to mean bleaching.

We didn't grew up in the same neighborhood, try to assume that I know what I'm saying,

Must I validate my repertoire of Yoruba vocabulary collections from you? Must knowledge be limited to only what you know?

'shi' (do) is what I mean, (as in shimawa or ku-nkushi),

not chi, as in shiyanbola, shijuwade or eshishi, eshio! or chineke.

Please free me.

lawani:
How is oshi (doh doh) is poverty. Shi (mih) is peel off or uncover as in Month shi abo I uncovered the plate or O shi m o mi lara It stained me not black at all.

The only point you made that I can see was on another thread about the saying owo orisa la fi nwo aafin. We respect an albino with the respect due an orisa and many of our founding fathers were orisa. I don't understand your point about the word shi as iy does not mean black. Words for a poor man includes akuuse, otosi and etc. Poverty is ise (do mi) or oshi (do do) they don't mean black.

People used 'o ti shi' to mean she has become skin burnt, when I was growing up. Then, bleaching seems to be the fad the in thing.

So if someone those women used to know fall into bad time and were not able to keep toning or bleaching, they become blackened.

if they come around later on in their new blackened look, once they are gone, the women start saying

'a beeri 'ya lagbaja? O ti shi!'
'shi', as used here mean blackened.

The ancient Yoruba were familiar with several skin hue, but our forebears scarcely entertained such knowledge.

Take amosun for instance, it means 'a mo sun' this means 'originally white but tanned'. 'Sun' is burnt, isn't it?

Amo is the Opposite of Osi. Clean is mimo, it also stand for fair skin with the ancient Yoruba, whiteskin is ofun.

The Yoruba speaks of Olokun as 'amo lowo, a mo lese, a mo timo timo' Olokun belonged to white Yoruba.

The verse on Olokun in IFA was set to 'Odu Ofun', o fun is a form of 'o-fun-fun', la-fun (a richly white substant).

And from there comes efun (chalk). People with this name also reminiscent the fact of the racial diversity in Yoruba.

A good hero of the white is Ela, hence it is said efunyela, meaning the white befits Ela. Then Odubela 'black begot Ela'

Odu is the opposite of ela, amo is the opposite of osun, Ofun is the opposite of Ife. Ela is an admirable form of Ala.

Ala is white, as the saying goes, koni tan ninu igba osun, koma back ala ninu je. Osun is camwood as efun is chalk.

As to racial diversity, Yoruba language described all shades of pigmentations known to us. We are the ones to learn.

No student teaches a teacher emeritus. Yoruba language is a great teacher, you can't teach her, but she can teach you.

lawani:
How is oshi (doh doh) is poverty. Shi (mih) is peel off or uncover as in Month shi abo I uncovered the plate or O shi m o mi lara It stained me not black at all.

The only point you made that I can see was on another thread about the saying owo orisa la fi nwo aafin. We respect an albino with the respect due an orisa and many of our founding fathers were orisa. I don't understand your point about the word shi as iy does not mean black. Words for a poor man includes akuuse, otosi and etc. Poverty is ise (do mi) or oshi (do do) they don't mean black.

People used o ti shi to mean she has become skin burnt when I was growing up. Then bleaching seems to be the fad.

So if someone those women used to know fall into bad time and were not able to keep toning, they become blackened.

if they come around later on in their new look, once they are gone, the women start saying

'a beeri 'ya lagbaja? O ti shi!'
'shi', as used here mean blackened.

The ancient Yoruba were familiar with several skin hue, but our forebears scarcely entertained such knowledge.

Take amosun for instance, it means 'a mo sun' this means 'originally white but tanned'. Sun is burnt, isn't it?

Amo is the Opposite of Osi. Clean is mimo, it also stand for fair skin with the ancient Yoruba, whiteskin is ofun.

The Yoruba speaks of Olokun as 'amo lowo, a mo lese, a mo timo timo' Olokun belonged to white Yoruba.

The verse on Olokun in IFA was set to 'Odu Ofun', o fun is a form of 'o-fun-fun', la-fun (a richly white substant).

And from there comes efun (chalk). People with this name also reminiscent the fact of the racial diversity in Yoruba.

A good hero of the white is Ela, hence it is said efunyela, meaning the white befits Ela. Then Odubela 'black begot Ela'

As to racial diversity, Yoruba language described all shades of pigmentations known to us. We are the ones to learn.

No student teach a teacher emeritus.

this should interest radoillo
remember that old thread?
ehn? ehn en?

MetaPhysical:
Its almost a year since we last discussed in here.

I have additional information to bring, a lot of new perspectives.

Absolutely,

how time flies.