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daretodiffer:
Yeah, maybe you were right afterall

Only the ancient fathers have the final say,
we can only come around as closest idea of what they meant to say.

daretodiffer:
I disagree with you on E pe le

I don't think it means sorry

I think it is more like 'take it easy'

hm

you will recall that 'kee pe' is 'may you live long?'

take it easy is 'e fara bale'. I can argue with my friend and freely say 'ogbeni, fara buruku bale jo, bayi ni...'

you can't tell elderly people 'e fara bale' especially if you will end up using few words, it is said 'gboun leebu agba'

so you will rather say :'eni suuru', be patience.' Take it easy is like calm down, 'jelenge' is the closest word to easy in Yoruba.

Jelenge is an upgrade-form of 'Je elege' which literally means, 'delicate in form', something you might lose if not carefully handled.

'E pele' as 'sorry' is to compensate you with blessing of longevity when you are wronged, injured or experience reflex action.

Abbykem:
Chisos! Nd I dey call myself yoruba babe. Thanks for sharing. I still it's time I become regular here 2 learn

welcome home, the land is green and fertile.

mandarin:
What about Ojutu that is Solution

Hey Mandarin,

It's been a while.

Thanks for the collection you just offer, it's enough to reveal some salient aspects of Yoruba semantics.

Let's say 'ojutu' is made of two syllables, namely oju and itu. The combination of the two words gives a new word.

Oju means the eye, inlet, spot (as used in the phrase that became a word). Itu is a verb meaning 'untie'.

Together, ojutu has come to mean solution. But by the given of it's root words, the term really means 'escape root'.

The only time an interpretation become revolutionary is when you are the only one with the interpretation to it.

But trust the intelligence of our forebears than any of your contemporary. Meaning, nothing happened in isolation.

ojutu is the same word paraphrased as ona abayo. The two words gives a new idea of semantic rule in Yoruba.

I love to call it 'rhema-duplication'. The fathers did that to give insight and credence to how their ideas were coined.

Tinbani omi njona, eni nkeeru e
wa (if I tell you that water is burning, just ask me to fetch you the ashes). That's all.

So, both ojutu and ona-abayo are hunters' idea. Ojutu is where a rodent will escape from, once you hear otu! Out! the next thing is chase.

So what we do as kids hunting grasscutters was to first find a hole that look fresh and then we smoke it.

ojutu is where the smoke will escape from. We got to find it, and then some of us will keep watch with a dog or two, while others watch the one digging the hole.

Back to rhema-duplication, every Yoruba words comes in duplicates, if not 'multiplicates'. Nothing happened in isolation.

Before one concludes on one Yoruba word, have to find its duplicates that agrees with your conclusions. It helps when dealing with 'oro sununkun:.

Oro sunukun, oju sunukun lafi nwo, oun t'oba jo'un lafi nweun. Epo epa jo posi eliri.

Aina was a very rich woman, from the way ancient Yoruba portrayed her:

aina o,
keke logun.
Lausa lo tiwa.
Abadiye saba.

When they sing that song, you do think you hear all what they were saying, hm.

Many people thought because they were Yoruba, it makes Yoruba easy.

It's like what Isaiah said, 'hearing you will not hear, seeing you will not understand'.

keke logun,
awo ile olowu,
Abaja logbon,
awoo won ode Eyo.

Ture laadota;
Adia fun Olunloye.
Tin tikole orun bo was si taye.
Nje, Olunloye mo mo binu o.

Olunloye mo mo se redun Oran.
Bi aaya to nponmo
Lamere o si maa pon.

Olunloye momo se redun oran,
Agba ti ko binu lomoo ree po.
Aipe, aijina,
Ewa bani no wowo Omo.

- okanran meji.

The question is, what does keke logun mean? I want to believe there are Yoruba here.

At macof, can you give this a try? Its utterly simple but revolutionary.

tell me the meaning, at least you claim to be Yoruba and pride.

Share your definition, don't hold it back only to ask me rhetoric questions like

don't you know the meaning of ogidan?

You can ask 9jacrip for help, its an open question, the winner gets N10,000.

Offer lasts for 24 hours.

Wins was a very rich woman, from the way ancient Yoruba portrayed her:

aina o,
keke login.

When they sing that song, you do think you hear what they were saying, him.

Many people thought because they were Yoruba, it makes it easy.

It's like what Isaiah said, hearing you will not hear, seeing you will not understand.

keke logun,
awo ile olowu,
Adia fun Mobowu,
Tii se omobinrin Ogun.

The question is, what does keke logun mean? I want to believe there are Yoruba here.

At macof, can you give this a try? Its utterly simple but revolutionary.

tell me the meaning, at least you claim to be Yoruba and pride.

Lagos on the march again.

@metaphysical,

you often talked about 'rookoo' as when someone makes obeisance with forehead touching the ground.

I think this is where it make sense,

ruku, (Arabic)

orunkun,

okun.

Ancient Yoruba do not 'dobale', rather they makes their forehead touch the ground for salute.

that is demonstrated in the saying,

ifa ori mi ree o, (ifa, here is my head) at which the person touches the ground with his forehead.

then the baba will say 'ori agbo ato'

GREAT.

davido1000:
I know BASTARD MORONIC REPUGNANT MALODOROUS yorubas would avoid threads like this

You mean you went this far for documents just to prove your jewishism?

eye4eye:
Where is the akara?
Oni ranu

Maybe they have choped aka.ra finich,
who can no? Come and tell.

destiny's phone: some among the dead were led to the place by their phone.

RIP to the dead.

Islam is the religion of rage, I quit islam because:

I believe in Jihad, but it is said 'Islam is the religion of peace'.

It is also said 'Islam is the total submission to the will of almighty allah'.

My confusion liberated me: if islam is religion of peace,

why didnt its founder embrace peace in the battle of badru and others?

if islam is total submission to the will of almighty allah,

why does the will of the almighty need the destructive rage of an islam?

the will is not like natural laws, phenomenon or prophecy that come to pass on its own.

it needs men to orchestrate itself on other men, it is therefore an almighty will.

the will of rage.

Islam is the total submission to the will of the almighty rage, allah.

Very pitiable,

Its only God that maketh rich and add no sorrow to it.

Wow,

Beauriful, friends.

Now we have isolated the phenomenon, courtessy starflux (little things count, it shows).

Next is to really determing what the rhymer 'kun' does to each and how it strings all the meaning together.

1. Okun: do-do (o kun), one that grunts, paint, painter: Okunkun, fog, dusting, darkness.

2. Okun: do-re (o kun), that which fill it up. Ocean.

Okun-: do-mi (o kun) one who fill up, okundaye, okunnu, olokunbuoke.

3. Okun: mi-mi (o kun), its filled up, its full. Greetings.

4. Okun: re-do: (o kun), you paint, you grunt. Rope.

kun, as in ekun and okun (sea) has to do with roar, rumbling.

Thats why ekun and kiniun is often used for the lion.

Some Yoruba takes lion for ekun, and some differentiates.

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Cutehector:
yeAh I knw... Wen I read ur comment, I just simply remembered dat annoyn mtn callertune lol

Me i use to listen to it like sermon.

Cutehector:
you can be better with MTN, so much u can find, so much u can be wit MTN

LOL, Remove the 'MTN' and you will discover a very powerful message. Its potent.

You have all it takes to be greater, everything you need is within your reach.

All filthy lucre, money that grow wings and fly away in time of trouble.

someone should endeavour to ask gaitano who was obadimu, whose name got changed to badmus or gbadamosi. Albeit, the closest to gbadamosi or badamosi that I know of is Bada. Note, what makes Bada Yoruba though it has close resemblance to 'shi bada-amuda' is that, it comes within Yoruba cluster, as in, 'bada-barawu-oloye'. Badamosi is not Yoruba hence it has no relative clause, word cluster or fine-tuner because it was a late comer without any familiar indigenous adoption.

painkiller46:
Man, take it easy, why are you hitting hard on me. As I clearly stated, am not an Ijesha, but I'm only happy to be connected to the Ijesha people via matrimony. Which I believe makes me an Ijesha well wisher: That alone is enough, and for God sake does every post have to go well with you?

You omit the question mark. Anyway, I've done the needful. Different things offends different people. May God bless your marriage. You want to know something? You dont know the event sorrounding your naming ceremony nor would you have any contributions to make on the day of your burial. It is only your wedding day that you are at the centre of attraction. So, let them say, but enjoy every step of the way to the climax. You owe no one no apology. Aya re a ian bisun, ian biwale.

Thanks for the refresh op, I have been thinking where to place this formost Lagosian's Oriki, he is the head of Abagbon Warship, of Ashogbon court: 'Omo Oludegun erin o pojo loju ogun, alasaasa rebi ija. Omo Onitire Ofanran, ara Ibini arokuntayo, Omo oloye meji ti o mule gberawon, omo Dada Olukotun.' I think Yoruba migration was aftermath of a civil war, hence martial consciousness ended up permiating the tales and markers of the advent of Yoruba history as often. The coast was once highway to Yorubaland at inception.

neoapocalypse:
The mod who put this on front page should be de-modded.

this one no be only joke o, na the original Commentu tappeh.

KingTom:
See are you people mad? Shey eyin ti ya werey Ni? See Awujale Sikiru has spoken! All the professor chindrens should shut up!! We are Sudanese period!!!

LOLZ. You are smoking sudan bush already . I'm so happy for this your homecoming. Umar KingTom ibn Muktar ISIS Wal~Suddaniyyah.

KingTom:
Emi niyen

In Oladipo Odeogbolu's voice, 'where is the mastermind and the arrowhead of this phantom' thread? Op come an finish what you started o. Lol, the coward is nowhere to be found. I thing the thread is now starting to making sense, thanks to those 'proffesor chindrens' that are now making input.

Let the trial take its course, we don't come back from court and become intimate friends.

Abugab:
What really are the meanings of Eko, Idumota, oshodi...in Yoruba?
I learnt even the Oba of Benin had a representative in Lagos even till the 50s.
Seems the Edos are actually the founders of Lagos.
Can someone counter this one probably with a Yoruba version of the founding of Lagos?
This is a serious history class as the story is quite revealing.

All they were doing is creepy way of robbing others of their historic relevance. The notion that Lagos has anything to do with benin is born out of the fact that Oba Ado ruled Benin from Lagos. That was at the inception of History. Now check this out:

Ewuare
Aina Elewure.

Aina Elewure is the one that the Edo have as Ewuare. Ewuare means "danger shall simmer down" in Yoruba, and Aina Elewure is the woman who proclaimed that danger shall simmer down. Iwure is Yoruba for supplication or prayer...Aina Elewure was the Idu who arrest Agbo who were giving her tough time and she sent for Ado to fright the rascals who claim they want to go and come back and destroy her beautiful camp.

Maybe the term Eko was even borne out of the word of encouragement by Ado that the resistance group cannot overpower Lagos because the place is divinely secured. Now the fact that Lagos was so called 'unplunderable' is revealed in the fact that the ancestral slogan of Lagos Island is

Lesi maa bomo Alakese dule baba tie, O sewor" meaning, "who will struggle with the son of kesse over his father's land? it is a taboo.

Do we have Kesse in Edo?

Meanwhile, the traditional name for my homeland, Ado among the Egun is Gesse.
The traditional name for Lagos Island among the Egun is "Ahonrin" what other name does Edo have for the Island that is unique to Edo?

This word Ahonrin is in fact a Yoruba word. Or is there a word in Edo that is pronounce the same way? Ahonrin is a unique name for Lagos Island among the Egun, which proofs that they have a primordial link with the place. Ahonrin simply means "Awonrin" that is, the emigrants.

Ifa, a form of fixed Oral dicta of Yoruba recorded "Owonrin", meaning 'owon orin' that is, 'those who migrated'.


Ado (Lagos) and Edo was probably founded at the same time, by the same man, Ado. Ado is Yoruba, and Edo is benin so because the Edo endorse the name Edo (Ado) and Lagos first king was known as Ado, it has become the tradition to say Ado (first king of Lagos) came from Edo popular kindgom with ancestral kinship name-share.

Ultimately, there was a 15th century Portuguese explorer of west coast who visited Lagos Island. He described Awori as a slur version of Yoruba and also concluded that the soldiers in the place were probably from benin, (making Lagos a benin outpost) which is the most important kingdom he has visited and thought to have influence on the Island.

Eniti koye wonmi gbodi itan
Erelu Ile lo sewa si,
Iya onitana
Onitana to j'oye ka'lu d'Owa,
k'oto wa je Aromire Ake.

Anseth:
EKO means WAR CAMP
IDUMU, OSHODI, IDUMUAGBO, AGINDINGBI, are all Esan Edo names

give me sensible meaning of these words in your language, Esan Edo...

Idimu> Idimu, from Adimu, someone who uses veil to cover her face (nose covering)

This is a projection of Adimu Orisha, the Eyo of Lagos, the symbol of Ayo, the Yoruba matriarch. To the Egun,
the Yoruba are Ayonu, meaning people of Ayo. Ayo was a forgotten hero of the Yoruba.

Oshodi> Oshe Odi: One who is orchestrate resistance against the powers that be. Odi is Yoruba word for opposition.
Oshodi in Lagos refers to the Nupe (Kisra legend) where it abridge with Yoruba history to the coast among the Aworis.

A Yoruba folksong says "Iran Oshodi lo lepetedo" does Ishan have anything to do with Epetedo people too?

Idumagbo> Idu mu Agbo: the black one captures Agbo, this has to do with the fight between Odu and Agbo.

Agbo was a man who fought with Yoruba empress Odua, then Odua send him out of the camp and he moved out with his followers to another coast. These were the Egun people. In the ancient time, Yoruba search parties were divided over having Oduduwa as their President, but a section of the seekers refused to agree to Oduduwa, so they were protesting on the street and their leader was seized by Oduduwa and both engaged in fisticuffs.

Later, Odu'a gave an order that whoever is not satisfied with her leadership should leave her vicinity, and the followers of Agbo decided to go in search of another coast. this was recorded as "omo Agbo dere" sons of Agbo became boa.

When Agbo was about to leave the Island, he promised Odua that he will return to kill her and eat her raw. But it was just a propaganda, so the Yoruba would say "akala-magbo, ei p'Odun je" meaning "the constrictor, son of Agbo is yet to eat the pleasant one"
The other place you hear of Agbo is Agbome-kalavi (people of Agbo, kala's children, Kala in Yoruba means defiant, it may have also come from Oka nla boa). Agbo in Awori means seekers
.
Agidingbi> Agidi ni gbi" this means, "crashlanding is a form of force"

Stop stealing from Yoruba to tell your story to steal Aworiland. It is our cultural integrity to tell our story, stop twisting things please.

Op, your knowledge of Yoruba lexicon is limited. Eko is Yoruba martial parlance. The Yoruba would say 'Eko 'la gbara e lowo 'be' Eko in that sense means 'repellant' Eko in ancient Yoruba simply means 'kose-eko' that is, 'cannot be plundered' or 'secured' it used to be ancient Yorubas maritime stronghold, or a camp of ancient mariners from Iseri (ancient Israel) who discovered the coast. You goofed claiming that true Lagosians have never ruled Lagos, Oba Ado discovered Lagos, he ruled over it and gave it over to Aromire Ake. Akinsemonyin, Esugbayi, Akintoye, Kosoko are Yoruba names. I am from Oba Ado's lineage, through Iga Isolo, my birthplace at Ado.

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Take Trumps egoistic rant to heart at your own risk.