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most of the time guys who appear too good to be true are just that . . . not true.
Moneybags talks a good marriage but how realistic is it?

4 Play:
I am telling you guys this is sexual tension between those 2.These people have been going at it for 3 hours. . . . . . .something else dey there!

i don't agree . . . morenike09 dared not get it on with another fellow.  her pankere is waiting.

morenike09:
wo oje wo nkan to nso ko to soro. . .shotigbo? ta lo get e? ni wa ju awon aye, mo rin, mo de tun sare. . . motunyo, abi, ewo lo nbi e ninu?


ok, before i get started, i'll advice you to watch what you type next. . .i said the interrogation is over or you start another show for our audience? LMAO. . .and trust me, this will be a tragic story

wetin u wan do?

moneybagged - A term that refers to the use of flowery words, unrealistic attitudes and false hopes to manipulate a gullible female.

see wetin moneybags don cause.

nwando:
No david.
The love for ones kids comes naturally because they are your kids.
Good marriages just don't happen.
One has to consciously work on it.

why do you think women always want their men to tell them they love them,or they look good and other sweet compliments like that.
True some things come naturally but others we have to make efforts to do so as not to take one another for granted.

The most important thing a woman need from a man is to know that he deeply cares and is crazy about her and the most important thing a man wants is to know his wife honors and respects him.
When these conditions are met,your marital bed will be a busy one

if those "conditions" are not met we wont ever need to wash the marital bed sheets?

nwando:
OSANOBUA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4play you get bad mouth o
the man is a real lover,stop hating

no wonder. Play "love" for a few days and u have the keys to a woman's pants. Moneybags thanks for the tips.

4 Play:
To some extent,a lot of moneybag's advice is useful only in circumstances where you don't really love your woman and you are trying to give her the impression you do.

spot on!
That is what i've been trying to get moneybag to understand. If you truly love ur wife meeting her needs just comes naturally to do, having to daily remind urself of the things you must do to make her happy suggests u're just struggling to pretend to be the model husband.

I said earlier (perhaps the analogy may not be very correct), parents dont need to work on pleasing their kids . . . they just do it naturally as parents.

olabowale:
@4Him: Omo boy, kilon sele? Two apologies in a row to an atheist? Thats unacceptable. I don't want to read about the third please. Make me happy: I will support you against an atheist anytime. However, you need to defend the Bible, otherwise jusmp to my camp. We are waiting to receive you.

lol i appologised for using the wrong words.
I dont need to defend the bible . . . it can defend itself just as it has been doing for the last 2000yrs.

therationa:
4HIM, many thanks and apologies graciously accepted.


As to the meat of the topic, what I was trying to convey was that we should not really take every single word in the Book at face value. Some of these text have a lot of problems with them, which are not widely known by the general public.

spare me therationa, all these over the position of a comma?
The early bible writers where not linguistic neither did they have the luxury of microsoft word with its spell check facility. Pls mistakes are bound to occur.
It is incredible how low pple can get to discredit the bible.

You've had 29 threads to do that and u have failed miserably to anyone that we shld take all these "errors" seriously.

I have extracted it and hereby tender unreserved appologies.

Can we pls move on to the meat of this topic pls?

therationa:
Am sorry; you are wrong yet again. The relevant sections were:

Lev 27: 29
and Judges 11

What do you mean by verse 11? Of which book/chapter/verse?

Sorry i was refering to Lev 27:28-29. i have since made the necessary modifications.

therationa:
Pardon me. This is the first time I have done a wholesale copy and paste. It is really not my style, but I thought the website was very well written and contained all the things I wanted conveyed but could not in my own words.

all i see there is a quarrel over a comma. Is that what you expected me to read?

What is YOUR own point?

nwando:
_{and just as I was writing this,mr nwando sneaks in on tip toe with a box of chocolate,roses and a card.}

Happy valentines day y'all.

since morning? Mr. Nwando is too late joo.

moneybags:
Well, like I said, it may come naturally to some. Good for them, really! They're in for a blissful marriage without having to work at it I'm yet to meet one though

Learning to meet ur woman's needs and meeting them because it comes naturally to you are two different things entirely. Both however entail "working at ur marriage" however way u look at it. that u've not met such men is no proof that they dont exist.

therationa:
I posted this essentially to have people know the history of the text and the controversy around these text. I was not being polemical here. That is why the post contains little of my own words.

so essentially why did you post that text? I am also looking for "well informed discussion" rather than mindless copying and pasting.

Here we go.

therationa:
Hope you guys are reading your bibles studiously this time. Because I am looking for a well informed discussion rather than quote-mining only those passage that suit your case.

We too are looking for "well informed discussion" rather than irrelevant quotes from your fellow athiests, 29 threads in less than 3weeks and a dishonest approach to issues.

you can't pretend to be looking for "well informed discussion" when you havent even read the bible yourself. A very good examples is your thread on human sacrifice. You quote verse 29 of Lev 27 as proof that the bible commands human sacrifice however verse 29 is wholly dependent on your understanding of verse 28!

this is no issue at all except as an excuse for hypocrites out to malign the bible.

I mentioned on another thread (which u conveniently ignored as has been ur habit) that the scriptures we have today were constructed from ancient manuscripts.
Now none of these manuscripsts exist as a single copy. Several jewish sects made copies of these books . . . i mention the dead sea scrolls that were found in 1949 . . . hundreds of yrs after the bible as we know it was already in printed form.
We know that for example . . . there were 18 copies of the book of Isaiah, 39 copies of the pslams, 33 copies of Deuteronomy, 24 copies of the book of Genesis e.t.c.

Now due to age and conditions of these parchments . . . several of them would contain missing portions that can only be reconstructed by comparing ALL the copies together.
That is why some ancient copies of the bible may contain some portions of the scriptures not found in others. It all depends on which manuscripts you are using for translation.

Surprisingly ALL the copies of the bible found among the dead sea scrolls completely agree with the bible as we know it. One of the most surprising to me and what confirmed my belief in the bible was the book of Enoch . . .

The bible mentions the book of Enoch - Jude 1: 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Now if u search the entire bible you wont find anywhere that Enoch made this prophecy, infact the bible says so little about Him that we wonder where Bro Jude could have gotten this so-called prophecy.

Like you too i had my own doubts UNTIL i came across a copy of the book of Enoch discovered among the dead sea scrolls . . .
Here is what it had to say . . . Enoch 1: 9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgement upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.

I must point out though that other copies of the book of Enoch had been found earlier than those of the dead sea scrolls.

Notice the near perfect quote that is in Jude compared to that in Enoch.

It may mean little to you, you may even scoff at it (Ps 1) but to me it is somewhat proof of the infallibility of the bible.

funny how everyone is deliberately leaving out the scenes of bloodshed that Kenya has been turned into in the last month.

moneybags:
Wake up my man! Show me the man who meets his wife's needs because it comes to him naturally? He must have died a long time ago.

Husbands who meet their wives needs learn. Yes, they learn! I believe with all my heart that my wife and I were meant for each other, but I had to learn to meet her needs. It doesn't come naturally, at least as far as I know. Or perhaps it's different for some others

that you had to learn does not mean that other men dont find it natural.

moneybags gets the women drooling again.

You make very valid points . . . i'm just wondering if men do have needs and whether they shld expect them to be met too.
My second question - is sex all there is to the needs of a man? Cant he be emotionally starved too?

thank you.

morenike09:
SHARRAP. . .HISSES. . .Happy Valentine's day jare . . .what are you doing online? dnt tell me that. . .ehrrrrrm, lol

happy valentines day to you.
I'm online because there's not much to do. What are YOU doing online?

morenike09:
LOL. . .same to you, just got back with a couple of driends. . .man, i never knew shopping on Val's day will be so much fun o. . . My Love sef went out. . . so, am spending my val with NLers, lol

wahala dey o.

since the women are all queueing to marry moneybags maybe we too shld form a line behind ajisafe as i think he raises some valid points.

Ajisafe:
so many arrogant Nigerian females end up with "baby daddies" and no husbands simply because of their "I pay my own bills; i'm equal to a man" attitude. You all need to wake up and smell the coffe! Grow up! We're not equal. I mean men and women are not equal. Period! I stand to be corrected, though.

spot on.

Ajisafe:
I admire those young ladies on Nairaland who are submissive to their men -- just the way our Creator has mandated it to be. That does not make you a slave to your husband it'll only make you to stay married forever! Believe me.

once again spot on.

uspry1:
Moneybags well said. I wish he is my husband! LOL!

pronto and u think u'll both live happily ever after?  
sometimes a marriage is more about how compatible you are with ur spouse and not just meeting her every single need. If you both are meant for each other you will meet her need NOT because you know its ur duty but because it just comes naturally to you.

Your parents dont need to draw up a list of kids needs they must meet each day, they just do it.