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PoliticsRe: Canaanland Robbery: 2 Covenant Varsity Students, 4 Others Arrested by 4Him(m): 12:15am On Feb 16, 2008
winnteam:
You all have to be careful the way you speak.

How many of you speaking against pastors are better than them? Do not judge! sad
are you suggesting these pastors are better than us mortals, beyond scrutiny and second only to Jesus Christ?

winnteam:
Truth be told, the missions have greatly contributed to the standard of education in this nation where the government that is saddled with the ssignment has failed woefully.

It is the fact that a vacuum was being created that a need arose to fill it
they filled this "vacuum" by building schools that only the rich and corrupt of the society can attend? Excellent!
Christianity EtcRe: Human Sacrifice In The Bible: Lev 27: 29 & Judges 11 by 4Him(m): 12:11am On Feb 16, 2008
grin cheesy grin grin grin cheesy Therationa, i thot u were going to bring up rational examples not hyperboles!
I'll be back to answer this silliness of heart . . . a few minutes to enjoy this ice-cream and mashmallows first.
Christianity EtcRe: Only For Those Who Know Their Bibles: Old Testament Stories by 4Him(m): 11:32pm On Feb 15, 2008
You want us to read a "hypothesis" to justify the reliability of the bible?

shld i use a dictionary to tell u what the term "hypothesis" means?
Christianity EtcRe: Human Sacrifice In The Bible: Lev 27: 29 & Judges 11 by 4Him(m): 11:27pm On Feb 15, 2008
therationa:
Any christians brave enough to defend human sacrifice and cannibalism in their bible?
show us one example of cannibalism in the bible or thou author of falsehood and confusion.
Christianity EtcRe: When Was Jesus Crucified? by 4Him(m): 11:25pm On Feb 15, 2008
why dont you tell us.
I thot u said he never existed.
Christianity EtcRe: The Daily Contradictions Of The Bible Thread. by 4Him(m): 11:09pm On Feb 15, 2008
same old reaction when they get stumped on their own foolishness.

Now run along and open yet another thread pretending to be seeking answers.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Evidence That The Bible Is The Word Of God? by 4Him(m): 11:07pm On Feb 15, 2008
that's true, what a waste of time trying to make a blind bat see the difference between the colors red and blue.
PoliticsRe: Robbers Invade Canaanland by 4Him(m): 11:05pm On Feb 15, 2008
Gamine:
A thief is already cursed

Whether 'papa' cursed or not

embarassed
that is true but you have not considered other things:

1. Did God give us the power to curse others? Why then didnt he curse those who crucified Him? Why didnt Stephen curse his killers?

2. We were cursed under the law . . . but we found mercy at the cross. Should these thieves be denied access to that mercy simply because they robbed our church?
Christianity EtcRe: The Daily Contradictions Of The Bible Thread. by 4Him(m): 11:01pm On Feb 15, 2008
therationa:
So are the 10 commandments individual commandments OR are they communal (national) commandments?

If the Nation as a whole did not adopt other Gods, was it OK for individuals to adopt their own personal gods, since you suggest that that law was given as a National commandment?
Exodus 20: 2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

This was the preamble to the 10 commandments . . . now answer your own dishonest question . . . did he bring them out of Egypt as individuals or as a nation?
Once you answer that question u'll have the answer to urs.

have a good day.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Evidence That The Bible Is The Word Of God? by 4Him(m): 10:58pm On Feb 15, 2008
therationa:
Back to you old tactic again. Changing the question. And you would accuse me of not staying about to defend my views. How do you expect me to stay about when that is NOT the questions I asked?

I would have liked something like: It is the world of God because;

It contained the truth the origin of humankind, the origin of the world, it correctly predicted the development of supercomputers, it correctly foreshadowed the event of the world wars etc.

But you are playing evasive games. This shows you are not prepared to stick your neck out for what you believe. You are only comfortable amongst the credulous and ignorant, so you can bamboozle them by quoting and jumping from verse to verse showing off your skills of memory, but nothing else. What a way you underuse/abuse those little gray cells.
for someone who has made about 30 threads in less than 1 month you are not one to talk about evasion tactics.

Now get the truth rammed down your throat you hypocrite . . . you cant claim to be asking for the answer to 5*5=25 when you dont believe that 1+1=2.
It is either you believe God exists or not, to jump from there to asking whether His word is valid or not is not reasonable.

We started out by trying to take u through our persuasions thinking we were interacting with an individual with a capacity for rational reasoning. . . now we know better we will continue to serve you your own unpalatable dish of inconsistency and dishonest approach to issues until you show that u are ready for a reall discourse.

How many times did Stimulus call you out to thrash out issues? How many times did you cleverly dodge them by running like a scared rat to open another thread?

I am more than ready to stick out not only my neck but my arms, legs and entire trunk for what i believe in but i also stand for the truth that you cannot afford to cast ur pearls before swine (and that is no insult at all).

have a good day.
Christianity EtcRe: The Daily Contradictions Of The Bible Thread. by 4Him(m): 10:48pm On Feb 15, 2008
therationa:
BTW, the examples you gave are just bizarre. Nowhere in civil society are people deliberately punished for the crimes/offense of their parents. And I meant DELIBERATE. Everyone suffers in wars, innocent and the culpable, not least the children. But that does not make it a deliberate act to inflict cruelty on the non-combatants. In fact there are specific Geneva conventions that serve to limit and prohibit such acts.

But the bible is replete with instances where women, children and animals are ordered to be killed by GOD for the acts of their fighting parents. What kind of GOD is this?

Would you not expect compassion from such a GOD?. And you call yourself a Christian. If you are a Christian, I would hate to be friends with such a person with such twisted morals.

What a MONSTROUS god you defend.
you are desperately confused. When the God was talking about visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children he was talking to them AS A NATION not as individuals. He wasnt saying Mr. Lekan if you steal $5 i will cane your two daughters NO!
There are instances in the bible (i gave the example of Achan, also Korah in the wilderness) where whole familes have perished because of the actions of the head of the family but these are few and far between.

Moses struck the rock instead of speak to it, his two sons did not pay for that sin neither did their grandchildren. David took Beersheba and killed her husband YET solomon became king of Isreal. There are tons of other examples like that.

However when the leaders of Isreal caused them to sin, they and all the land of isreal paid for it either by being defeated in war (read the prayer of Gideon) or by going in to captivity (babylon). Daniel was full of the spirit, a wonderful man of God and YET he was in captivity for the sins of his ancestors.

That was why i gave the examples i did where whole nations can bear the brunt of the actions of their leaders. Of course it is bizare to u because it makes a mockery of your attempt to see that as a "contradiction" in the bible.

I can't say i blame you confused souls.

Therationa, it is not compulsory to be a christian. I am surprised that you are married to one with the level of hate that you keep inside.
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Replace The Word "A.L.L.A.H" With God, They Are Not The Same by 4Him(m): 10:38pm On Feb 15, 2008
olabowale:
@Bamowolo: No we do not truly have the same Ibrahiimic God. First the God of the Jews, is not a general/universal God, but a tribal God. From the skin of it, Judaism pretends to be Monotheist, but in close observation, you will notice that their perception of God, is at best not truly a Creator-created relationship. Have you ever not seen a Jew questioning God. I remember a young Lawyer saying that he will never forgive god for allowing Holocaust to occur!
some people also claimed they would never forgive God for allowing the tsunami so what is ur point here?

olabowale:
Now the case of the Christians is very apparent: Three god(s) or personality was not what Ibrahiim worshipped.
neither was it what Paul, Stephen, Peter, James, John and I worship.

olabowale:
@4Him: Thats coming from your own mouth 'F"(tool!). Whats there in Christianity to Copy or Piggy back on? Nothing! Al Rahman says in His Book: Enter 'Silmi,' Completely, and do not follow the footsteps of the Satan, for inded he is an open enemy to you. Al Raheem further states tha all prophets and messengers are believers, Mumiin(s). Moses for example was not a Jew in religion and definitely, Jesus was not a Christian.
Moses was a jew. What are you talking about? How could he be the jewish leader and not be a jew in religion?
Jesus was not a christian . . . well the term "christian" comes from "Christ-like", a term used to describe the early disciples.
Open ur eyes of understanding.
PoliticsRe: Robbers Invade Canaanland by 4Him(m): 10:28pm On Feb 15, 2008
Gamine:
PLease n please
We are all aware of the devices of the enemy
lets end this destructive banter!
99% of us claim to be "aware of the devices of the enemy" but the truth is we are not. We cannot be aware of these devices if we cannot open our bibles and ask - what would Jesus do in this situation? Rather we simply hang on every word that proceeds out of the mouth of "papa".

One of the devices of the enemy is that at the end time so many will worship Christ with their lips but their hearts are far from Him.

By their fruits we shall know them. One of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is LOVE - are we showing these fruits when we so easily heap curses on our enemies and those who attempt to open our eyes to the truth?
What fruits are we showing when our "papa" prefers to rain down curses on those who rob him forgetting that he was only a pitiful sinner when Christ went to the cross on his behalf.

Lord have mercy.
Christianity EtcRe: The Daily Contradictions Of The Bible Thread. by 4Him(m): 10:18pm On Feb 15, 2008
therationa:
This is breathtaking inanity. If there really was a time when children paid for the sins of their fathers, this makes you god all the more MONSTROUS. In fact, in the 10 commandments, it say something like "visiting the iniquities of the father on the children on the fourth generation".

This is simple monstrous. Why do you labour to defend/support such a monster?
Again more reason for me to believe you really have not bothered to read that which u are quick to castigate. The above in highlights is NOT a part of the 10 commandments . . . maybe the one you manufactured urself.

Lets use a simple analogy . . . when the US went in to remove Saddam Hussein, many Iraqis were killed NOT because they were Saddam or because they supported Saddam in power but for the simple unfortunate fact that they were Iraqis!

Another analogy . . . Iran is suffering under the burden of international sanctions because of its leaders . . . isnt that monstrous? Is it the fault of the 5yr old Iranian boy who also has to partake in such sanctions?

Thanks to Abacha, Nigeria was in 1995 labelled a pariah nation and its citizens barred from travelling to western nations . . . was Abacha our fault? Isnt that monstrous?

In the old testament . . . such was the case too. A man was held accountable for his family. When Achan sinned in taking the spoil of Ai, his family perished with him.

With the new testament God decided to change it . . . now it is "whosoever believeth on Him shld not perish but have everlasting life" . . .

If that is inanity then leave me alone to bear the consequences of supporting such a "monster".
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Evidence That The Bible Is The Word Of God? by 4Him(m): 10:11pm On Feb 15, 2008
therationa:
It is claim by Christians that the bible is the inspired word of God, and we have only their word on this. But how could a skeptic go about verifying the Christian's claim? Is there any evidence within and/or without the bible that proves that it is the word of God?
on what evidence does the skeptic prove that the bible is not the word of God?

therationa:
Should we just accept the claim because it says it is?
no you shldnt but i'd expect you to at least READ the bible rather than saturating urself with atheist websites that dont help you form an independent oppinion.
Christianity EtcRe: The Daily Contradictions Of The Bible Thread. by 4Him(m): 10:00pm On Feb 15, 2008
bawomolo:
MAN WAS CREATED AFTER THE OTHER ANIMALS


And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and the cattle after their kind…And God said, Let us make man… So God created man in his own image. (Gen. 1;25, 26,27.)



MAN WAS CREATED BEFORE THE OTHER ANIMALS


And the Lord God said it is not good that man should be alone; I will make a help-meet for him. And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air, and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them. (gen. 2:18, 19.)
What is the contradiction here? That the author of Genesis mentioned the same thing 2ce?

bawomolo:
CHILDREN ARE PUNISHED FOR THE SIN OF THEIR FATHER


I am a jealous God, visting the iniquities of the fathers upon the children. (Ex. 20:5.)



CHILDREN ARE NOT PUNISHED FOR THE SINS OF THEIR PARENTS


The son shall not bear the iniquities of the father. (Ezek. 18:20.)
Pls dont just start reading from verse 20 because you are looking for "contradictions". God clearly indicates in the earlier portions of this chapter that indeed there used to be a law that children were punished for the sins of their fathers.

Ez 18:1 The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying,
2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?
3 [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have [occasion] any more to use this proverb in Israel.
4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.


Very easy to understand . . . God was simply saying this in anticipation of the new covenant that was to come with the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ that there would come a time when no longer would children have to pay for the sins of their fathers but EVERY SOUL would have to account for his own deeds.

the only thing "contradictory" here is what YOU want to see.
Christianity EtcRe: The Daily Contradictions Of The Bible Thread. by 4Him(m): 9:48pm On Feb 15, 2008
bawomolo:
do u realize this thread isn't to argue about the existence of a God but to anaylze the mindset of the Christian God. can u Christians learn to debate without being so emotion and sensitive. please explain why the Christian God has a hard time sticking to one opinion??
do i sense a change of tactics from you and therationa. Having failed miserably to convince us that God does not exist the emphasis has now mischievously shifted to analyzing the "mindset of God" eh?

bawomolo:
Trees were created before man was created.

Genesis 1:11-12 (King James Version)King James Version (KJV)


11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.


Trees were created after man was created

Genesis 1:11-12 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)


11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
I read this 3 times . . . where is the contradiction here? Perhaps you need to revise it.

bawomolo:
Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit

Genesis 2:17 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.


Adam Lived for 930 years.

Genesis 5:5 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
lol you shld have asked for the meaning of "death" in that verse 27. There are 2 types of death . . . physical and spiritual death. The spiritual death (separation from God) was what was being adduced there not that he would physically fall down and die.
Notice that after eating the fruit, Adam and Eve were banished from the garden of Eden and thus lost the daily walk with God they had hitherto enjoyed.

bawomolo:
God does Change his mind.

1 Samuel 15:35 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

And Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death: nevertheless Samuel mourned for Saul: and the LORD repented that he had made Saul king over Israel.

Exodus 32:14 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV) And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
you're lost here sir. God gave each and everyone of us the power to make our own life choices. God could not force Saul not to sin, God could not force the children of Isreal to follow him. Following Christ is a personal decision that you have to take.

bawomolo:
God doesn't change his mind

Numbers 23:19-20 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it.


can the bible scholars please analyze this. ignore the trolls people
There is a difference sir. When God makes a decree or commandment it will always come to pass.
However, as I said earlier and i repeat . . . when it comes to man and his ability to make his own choices God cannot pass a decree that thou must serve Him on sunday or tuesday . . . or thou must believe in Him.
Christianity EtcRe: The Daily Contradictions Of The Bible Thread. by 4Him(m): 9:36pm On Feb 15, 2008
ayinba1:
Bawomolo,

No single hair (atom) on your body will be harmed except with the leave of GOD. Fear not. The respondents so far are small fries. You did not create those verses, they are from the bible.
hypocrisy at its best:

1. You have again gone ahead and made an indirect quote from the bible you claim is a contradiction.

2. Fear not? Wow . . . from the same person who a few weeks ago was threatening me with violence for quoting contradictions from the quran?

3. Fear not? From the same religion who scared Seun into banning m-uslim discussion on this forum with his life?

The devil indeed has turned himself into an angel of light.
Christianity EtcRe: The Daily Contradictions Of The Bible Thread. by 4Him(m): 8:55pm On Feb 15, 2008
skyone take it easy . . . Christ would have prayed for Bawomolo instead . . . it is not His will that ANY shld perish . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Replace The Word "A.L.L.A.H" With God, They Are Not The Same by 4Him(m): 8:48pm On Feb 15, 2008
bawomolo:
judaism,christianity and the great religion all share the same abrahamaic God. christianity and the great religion are both slight deviations from judaism u guys are really ignorant and have no clue about the holy books u read.
no they dont you tool. Christianity is the new covenant, judaism is the old covenant . . . isl[color=Black]am[/color] only piggy-backed on the christian concept of the abrahamic God to lend some legitimacy to its fraud.
Christianity EtcRe: Unimpeachable Evidence That Humans And Primates Have Common Ancestors. by 4Him(m): 8:13pm On Feb 15, 2008
your only link to this "unimpeachable evidence" is a youtube video?

Let me remind you that other examples of chromosomal translocations are associated with disease - t(2;5)(p23;q35) - anaplastic large cell lymphoma
t(8;14) - Burkitt's lymphoma (c-myc) among others.
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by 4Him(m): 7:56pm On Feb 15, 2008
detruth:
When I saw where you are picking your inspirations from, it tells me more about you and your kind folks. (Thank God its what Yomi says and not what God says)
that is the problem sir. Blind faith, blind trust . . . can the blind lead the blind except they both fall into the ditch? Do you people ever stop to ever study to see whether those things that ye have both seen and heard are true? yomi is not my pastor, i never heard of him until i read his blog . . . i take my time to read thru his write ups to see whether they line up with the bible or not. Sadly religious affiliation has prevented many of you from doing just what made the Berean christians such models to the apostles in the book of acts.

detruth:
Lets not take this show too personal.
Thank God am an admirer of man-made bla bla bla
This is because I have a better understanding that

" A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven"(John 3:27) and that

"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." (Rom 13:1)
Bill Gates has recieved wealth . . . was it given him from heaven?
You cant just quote scriptures anyhow to justify ur twaddle. What was God talking about in John 3:27? Was he saying even if you recieve juju powers it was given to you from heaven?

Do you people stop to even understand scripture before u post?

We have witches . . . where those powers ordained of God?

detruth:
4him, na wha for you o! out of looking for what to justify yourself with, you nearly even God is not their creator in Abu Dhabi! May God forgive that ignoranceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
my dear, what of the pple of Soddom and Gommorah? Where they not rich too? Didnt they have fantastic buildings? Why wasnt any of that of significance to God when He decided to overthrow them with fire and brimstone?

detruth:
I believe its in your Bible that God allowed the Tower of Babel to an extent before He came down to stop it. Americans will still continue believing their country is God's own Country even with the 9/11 terrorist attack. Was God sleeping then? Brother, don't be too rigid, nothing happens here on earth or in heaven outside God's knowledge.
My dear . . . i'm sure at a stage nimrod must have looked at his tower and said . . . "glory be to God" afterall they wanted to build a tower to heaven. Why was that a bad idea? Shouldnt God have been pleased that these pple loved Him so much that they wanted to build a tower to reach Him quickly instead of waiting to die?

My dear its not about being rigid its about whether the things we do glorify God or not. chikena.
Christianity EtcRe: Should I Go Or Should I Stay? by 4Him(m): 7:45pm On Feb 15, 2008
therationa:
This is just an evasion tactic. If you were debating with a m-uslim the existence of God would not be the issue. It would be whether the bible/qu'ran are his inspired words (or whether Jesus is his son or God; or Mu-hammed is prophet)
Nonsense. I have never told a musl'im that his god does not exist . . . rather i have countered his silly argument that he is the same as the God of the bible.

therationa:
So before I believe in you God, I need to verify that what you claim to be his word is indeed his word. If it does not stand the test of my scrutiny, I reserve the option to not believe.
you're putting the cart before the horse. You cant be debating the words of a God u dont believe in.

therationa:
BTW, having a strong believe or conviction about something does not make it a fact. The ancients strongly believed that the Sun revolved about the earth, or that the earth was flat. Both of which turned out to be false, however strongly these believed were held.
that's true, but until you can convincingly show us that our belief in God is irrational we will continue to hold steadfastly to that belief.
CrimeRe: Marital Rape by 4Him(m): 6:09pm On Feb 15, 2008
Sweet T:
Whoever marries D-reloaded is for a very long roller coaster of visits to psychiatric ward because she will drive you insane ! Expect to cook your own breakfast, dinner and supper while she is in the living room talking on the phone to her buddies.
or we could just make things easy and ask her to marry moneybags. Problem solved.
Christianity EtcRe: What Are The Core Tenets (doctrines, Value And Virtues) Of Christainity? by 4Him(m): 5:50pm On Feb 15, 2008
therationa:
Anyone knows what Christianity is all about?
yes if only you were seeking genuinely.
Christianity EtcRe: Should I Go Or Should I Stay? by 4Him(m): 5:34pm On Feb 15, 2008
therationa:
4HIM,

Whether God exists and whether the bible is his word are two VERY different questions. For instance Christians, Mormons, M-uslim, Jews, Hindus, etc all believe in the existence of God. But do you all believe in the same book as his word.

I am questioning the bible just as you would question the Qu'ran, or the m-uslim would question the bible.
you're tripping over ur own feet. Whether God exists is tied intimately to whether the bible is His word. You cant separate the two because God expressly declared in the book of St. John that He is His word!

Now back to ur weak analogy, christians, muslims and mormons believe in the existence of "a god" . . . not just God. The christian believes that his God is clearly distinct from those of others and the rationale for this is in the bible.
PoliticsRe: Robbers Invade Canaanland by 4Him(m): 5:26pm On Feb 15, 2008
Frankly you have no points at all so i will safely ignore them to point out your glaring hypocrisy and the fact that even though you cry that you are a christian, you really are not. You do not understand God's principles, you are not saved, you are an idol worshipper who places the words of your man of Gawd above those of Jesus Christ.

janami:
@Ajisafe
He has cast the curse already. o de ti mu won cheesy
I see this constantly especially from the fanatical members of the WOFM and it pains my soul to realise that we still have people like this who cant even open their bibles and ask . . . what would Christ have done?

When Christ was being crucified on the cross what did He say to His tormentors? - Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

When Stephen was being stoned to death what did he say to his killers? - Acts 7: 60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

What about Paul and Silas who prayed for their jailor and his family? If Stephen had cursed his killers Apostle Paul would never have existed and we would never be beneficiaries of the books of Romans, Corinthians, galatians . . .

What happened to Godly principles of love, mercy and grace? What of the thief on the cross? Did Christ condemn him to hell? Luke 23: 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

While we were yet sinners Christ died for the ungodly . . . without Christ's death on the cross the wages of sin (robbery, murder or unbelief) is death!

why are "christians" so full of hate and unbelief? Why are the same people who were redeemed by His blood, unworthy or His grace now cursing others?

janami:
I STAND CONFIDENTLY TO SAY " I AM NOT A THEIF AND WILL NEVER BE. NEITHER AM I A MURDERER. if not for those thieves, we wnt be mourning the innocent civilians in the first place.
What self-righteousness, what hypocrisy, what a disgusting display of deciet. Remember who said something like this in the bible?
Luke 18: 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.[/b]13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

What was Christ's response? - 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: [b]for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


I live you to ur conscience.

Very sad . . . a lot of people think they are saved because they attend church every sunday but each time u listen to the utterances of their lips you see evidence of unregenerated souls.

I'm not surprised that you people just rush in to insult me and run away . . . they cant open their bibles, they worship their leaders . . . sad, sad, sad!
PoliticsRe: Canaanland Robbery: 2 Covenant Varsity Students, 4 Others Arrested by 4Him(m): 5:02pm On Feb 15, 2008
abanna:
Hi,

d Church has a role plan not only spiritually but in EDUCATION. Education goes with discipline, morals,etc.
no where in the bible do we see this nonsense. Jesus did not go about building schools for the little children neither did the early apostles.

abanna:
I will like 2 warn dt u mind d way u talk about churches n men of God 2 avoid God's wrath.
that is not in the bible also. It is the lie that ur men of Gawd have placed in ur heart to avoid being scrutinised. Paul rebuked Peter once for declaring the gentiles unclean.

abanna:
4 those who invade Churches in d name of CAREER ROBBERS have curse= DEATH as dr portion.No man steals in God's house n go free whether police catch them or not they must pay.
Again, them no dey write thief 4 face.CU admits students 2 study so if dy on dr own choose 2 steal n kill then , they must face d music.
I WISH THEM WEL IN HELL
What happened to the biblical principles of grace, mercy and love? While we were yet worse sinners Christ died for the ungodly.
Remember the thief on the cross? did Christ wish him well in hell too?
Christianity EtcRe: Should I Go Or Should I Stay? by 4Him(m): 4:56pm On Feb 15, 2008
therationa:
There is a simple reason why I opened many threads. I had noticed that there are some individuals (notably Imhotep, SysUser) here who would snooker every single thread into a God Exist/Not Exist debate. The first two threads I started were taken down that route, much as I tried to bring it back to the main thrust of the post.
here is the problem. If we havent learnt 1+1=2 why do you want to progress to 7*5=35?

If we havent determined whether God exists or not then what is the rationale crying about whether His bible is true or not?
You dont believe the christian God exists yet you go ahead lampooning His bible? isnt that hypocritical?
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by 4Him(m): 4:49pm On Feb 15, 2008
skyone:
The basis of this araguement is the church "Faith Terbanacle popuplarly known as Winners" is virtually the biggest in the world and i believe any right thinking man will give glory to God not Pastor Oyedepo or the contractors behind it. It was wholly built to win souls for the kingdom of God and i believe again that God Himself will be happy about it.
That the church is the largest in the world has nothing to do with God's glory . . . He is there in the midst of 2 or 3 people who are sincerely gathered together in His name.

skyone:
for example pastor Oyedepo aim at winning souls and believes as a servant of the Almighty you are not mend to be inferior to others.
that is one more "belief" that has no place in the bible. Inferior to others in terms of what? Wealth? Where was Apostle Peter's guiness book of records building? Christ said His disciples would be persecuted and hated for His sake . . . where did Oyedepo get his revelation from?

skyone:
Either the Deruth is an admirer of God's work or not is not for me to judge, as per God not building the building'of course yes, God is too sacred and holy to start driving tractors but i believe He has empowered both Pastor Oyedepo and the contractors in order for that building to be in place. Without him nothing good is possible.
that is false. Ever seen the pyramids? Who empowered them to build it?
Ever see the statute of liberty in the US?
Ever seen the largest building on earth?

To whose glory are those?
Christianity EtcRe: Should I Go Or Should I Stay? by 4Him(m): 4:37pm On Feb 15, 2008
You are more than welcome, we've dealt with worse people before. wink
Like JeSoul said . . . we are not crazy neither do we have 32 pairs of arms . . . your childish attitude of opening up 90 threads a minute any time is ridiculous. Everyone is tired of the fact that each time they try to engage you in a progressive discourse on one thread u promptly disappear to open another.

we cant keep up!
Dating And Meet-up ZoneRe: Abuja Dating Zone by 4Him(m): 6:14am On Feb 15, 2008
shhh morenike e don do

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