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Blogthug:
he is baby atheist just like u, sure both of you became atheist via fallacious memes

Sorry, i'm not an Atheist.

only way u can prove your mums existence isn't a figment of your imagination is if u can log into her consciousness , until then, u can only believe your mum exists and can't claim to know she does

The only way to also disprove solipsism is to log in to another's consciousness, like onetrack told you(since you don't know about solipsism), your argument eventually leads to that point.
Why this unnecessary waste of time?

Teempakguy:
just keep reading arguments against atheism over and over again. anything you repeat to yourself begins to sound true eventually.


4kings, leave ebuka alone in his delusion.

KingEbukasBlog:
Nope . He has realized how foolish the decision to become an atheist is and has decided to do the wise thing .

Sorry mister fictitious eternal universe . I'm opening a thread soon to show you where that ridiculous belief came from and why nontheistic religions like Jainism hold such beliefs too .

Most Atheists like Seun strongly believe the universe is eternal that's why they believe the theists are wrong even though science disproves them .

There is no rationale behind atheism : It is not based on cosmology , it is not based on science , it is not based anything . When will you ever realize how idiotic atheism is ?

So why I wonder where this strong conviction that you are right and the audacity to think it is wrong to acknowledge the most rational position on God's existence which is theism or deism came from ?

The OP has come to realization of the truth and is seeking to be manumitted from mental slavery . He does not want to commit suicide ! Let him be !

Hmmm, the universe not being eternal is not an established FACT,(like you think), but not an invalid notion however.
With Einstein's general theory of relativity(coupled with new quantum equations), TIME is defined only within the Universe. I read about this in one of Hawking's lectures, therefore inquiring of a Time before the universe is irrelevant.

I don't understand the math very well yet but from few articles i've read, someone saying the universe is eternal(as an hypothesis) does not make the person stupid.

This new quantum equation are not so much in agreement with the Big Bang singularity and Big Crunch(end of the universe).

MrMontella Johnydon22 SirWere Teempakguy and ValentineMary can you shed more light on this.

annnikky:
A 120 wire cable has been laid firmly underground
between two telephone exchanges located 10km
apart.

Unfortunately after the cable was laid it was
discovered to be the wrong type, the problem is
the individual wires are not labeled. There is no
visual way of knowing which wire is which and
thus connections at either end is not immediately
possible.

You are a trainee technician and your boss has
asked you to identify and label the wires at both
ends without ripping it all up. You have no
transport and only a battery and light bulb to test
continuity. You do have tape and pen for labeling
the wires.

What is the shortest distance in kilometers you
will need to walk to correctly identify and label
each wire?

20km

I'm now subscribed to your channel.
I like the duet of yourself that you did. Nice idea!

ThinkSmarter:
The hv already being commanded not to eat the fruit.
Atleast, they are intelligent beings that understands and re supposed to obey instructions.

They were also intelligent beings to have known that not obeying instructions is wrong, not so?

Blogthug:
this isn't solipsism sorry

Ranchhoddas had the proper word for you.
Bye!

This python code solves the question:

for i in range(0,10):
    for j in range(0,10):
        for k in range(0,10):
            for l in range(0,10):
                for m in range(0,10):
                    
                    a = i
                    b = j
                    c = k
                    d = l
                    e = m
                    if a == b**2 and b+c == 10 and d == b+1 and c+e == 14 and a+b+c+d+e==30:
                        print(a, b, c, d, e)

Cc: Lilprincey badthinds DaViNcI16

KingEbukasBlog:
Looks like you have faith after all , deist .

i no get ur time
so i'm a deist now abi, why the sudden change of heart?

Anyways know this Mr.Deluded;
Proof -- evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.

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I contradicted your arguments, apparently they were not sufficient enough, instead of going to learn more about your belief, you just concluded that i'm deluded.
I'll only appear dogmatic or deluded if your arguments were clearly superior to mine, and i was still obdurate.
Going with this, you probably think every other Christian denominations beliefs are based on delusion, right?

KingEbukasBlog:
Faith card ? Faith is belief based on reasonable evidence ; you are just deluded and misled . I'm sorry mi bro . Can't you see why I think you are deluded : Your intransigence proves so . You have no reasonable reason to reject the virgin birth or Paul was not a Gnostic . Your arguments are just you blatantly appealing to common sense .

What is Faith ? - "strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof".

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nice one onetrack

His question stems from solipsism(i wonder why he is addressing it to atheists only)
So as a solipsist, the experience of child birth could be taken as projections from the subconscious.

The solipsism philosophy by Descartes is irrelevant to me, if i can't get to the "supposed full consciousness".

KingEbukasBlog:
More like you are seriously deluded and will ignore any opportunity to receive sense

You can't even disprove my "deluded claim", and you dare type this.

I've told you i''m not Gnostic yet, but i'm more inclined to their beliefs than mainstream christianity, this came only by reason, if you can't defend your belief, Just play out the Faith card or Shut up!!!!.

Hond:
You have a lot to learn about the nasty hidden secrets of Atheism. I was born into this vice. Cut the crap with pretentious language then you will free yourself from a vicious trap. To quote a wise guy, "The mind reveals itself in words." Examine the highly pretentious words used by Atheist to disguise their ignorance Bro. Check it out for yourself. It is those fake words that unhinge the mind and spirit and produce the chronic neurosis visible among most NL Atheists.

Atheists dont believe we humans or animals have a spirit. I was told they can prove it. Damn !

Atheism is just disbelieve in God.
You are not even an atheist, i don't think i want to engage you any further.

Hond:
The fucking lame Atheists here are twisting emotions I never had. You guys make it hard for most Atheist to evolve. They rally around religion like hungry dogs while claiming they are Atheists. Now thats a fuxcked up contradiction bro.

Why do they do this ?
Cowardice is the hallmark of a fuxcked up Atheist. I have stated my reasons deflecting the stench of these Idiots. For these reasons I’m inclined to cut off discussion with someone using slurs and insults toward religion. In the same way as I’d leave a dinner table where people were using racial slurs. One shouldn’t dignify bigotry with one’s presence.

Am I maybe wrong here? In fact I’ve often hear from debate opponents that I shouldn’t be so sensitive about these insults--that imaginary sky friend or religitard or Christian idiot are “just words”.

Of course these are the same people who go ballistic when they hear someone using a racial or anti-homosexual slur. Then it is suddenly no longer “just words”. Then it is time for someone to lose their job.

Slowly the two key character traits of the budding Atheist unfolds in public in public. The veil is lifted !

As I have clearly stated many times, you have among Atheists, low life cowards and the superior brave hearts.

The cowards are a danger to themselves and society. They are eager to destroy the religions and lives of innocent people just for an orgasm. History clearly proves that this type of Atheist thrives on cowardice. He is self-centered and will masturbate over holy doctrines and poo on a church alter with no conscience.

I think this is an issue between normal atheists and extremists, and has nothing to do with cowardice.

Hond:
Thank you. You make very meaningful points when taken in the context of deceptive Atheists. In my rich experience and length experience of Atheism I have learned to cut the crap. My mission in life is not to entrap others into the cold-blooded trap that Atheism offer.
I rather live and focus on Atheism, that what I am, Thats what interest me and many brave Atheists. Unlike the "Cowardly Atheists" that have an interest only in trashing other innocent peoples beliefs.

You tell me what level of insanity is revealed, when a man works hard to destroy the life of a man that has never harmed him ?

Mohamed never harmed these Cowardly Atheists, but they will viciously and insanely attack him. These cockless Atheists are an embarrassment to true courageous Atheists.

A theist is behind this new moniker.
Else, you need to go for a psychiatric evaluation, you might have some deep twisted emotional issues.

No beefs intended!

annnikky:
Rohan was in an interview. The interviewer told
his that this was his last question and then he
asked him to point at the exact center of the
table on which his resume was kept.
He gave an answer after which he was selected.

Can you think of what happened inside the
interview room?

Cc:
Femi4,

Yinkey6,

Smallish

KunleSteel

4kings

kretoz

joshysmartie

The interviewer said "this was his last question", but he didn't ask any question after that.
So i think regardless of what Rohan did, Rohan must I've indicated that his last question had already been answered, or make him ask another question somehow.

KingEbukasBlog:
The faith you have that Paul is a gnostic ba ?

I'm open towards this, i've told you before.
If i find a reason to completely disregard this idea, then i will.

But wait ooo .... wetin you dey learn for that chapel sef ...

I go mainly to make attendance jare.
The current chaplain 'repeats messages in a different way', but he is very funny sha.

analice107:
Hmmm.

Hmmm

bennyann:
4kings

Can't you say a prayer here?

Sure i can.

Good evening God
Thank you for making us part of this wonderful universe.
Thank you for all achievements we've made so far throughout this year.
Thank you for active grace of perseverance and wisdom to learn from our mistakes and difficulties.
Thank you for being benevolent in your own way.
Thank you for the human brain.
I pray this year would be awesome for all religious section Nairalanders and we would all learn to live a life of love; in hope and in any power that can carry this prayer.
Please reveal yourself if possible to those seeking the light that we may find peace with you if necessary.

Thank you God again.

KingEbukasBlog:
We thank Jesus , the son of God who came to save mankind though the virgin birth oo ...

This kind of stubbornness without proof or at least valid reasoning is manageable by me, I call it Faith.

I dey kampe ... you nko ?

e dey alright.

Nice thread.

analice107:
You mean you died?

Ya and resurrected like Christ.
Hallelujah!!!!

Joavid:
yea, we don see it before.

I have a pic sef

I had never seen it before

Sharing is good...

analice107:
I now see why my spirit accepts yours.

I wish my phone is charged so that we can take time going into what Christ referred to as "This generation".

Studying Jesus, i discovered that, when asked a question, he leaves the superficial answer expected and gives very deep answers that needs decoding.

Briefly, Jonbellion, the generation talked about there is the generation of the Jews that shall be gathered from across the nations of earth, after exile.

Israel as a nation had never been scattered across all the nations of the earth, it was only as prophesied by Christ.

the first time, they all were captives in Egypt, the second, they were all captives in Babylon, the third time which is now, they were scattered all over the earth after their rebellion against their Domination by the Roman Empire. This was according to Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel's and Jesus' prophecies.

These matter no be for kids my dear. This is strong meat.

@4kings, weldone sweetheart.

Nah, this is not strong meat for me oo
I studied little bit of eschatology, so i know what you talking about, remember i told you i was a strong Christian.

I dont have time for long arguments at the moment, i would have shattered this belief.

analice107:
Biko gawa. U r confused.

Hey, Where is my Darling 4kings?

He went to be with the Lord for a while
Watsup?

KingEbukasBlog:
Lmaoo ... it was fun shattering your ridiculous beliefs about Paul . Cheers bro

You call that "shattering" smh
what a wondeful delusion.
You couldn't even defend your claims saying i was fixated on an opinion, while i analyzed why you were wrong(or had a weak point) and gave you a different opinion(that you didn't comment on). Abeg go sidon

KingEbukasBlog:
You don land ? Which Hall dem give you ?

Anyways, i don land tey tey, they gave us Paul hall oooo
I think because we(no they ) stabbed a lot last semester.
Hw ur side?

KingEbukasBlog:
I can't believe that you are still obdurate that Paul was a Gnostic . Paul was not a Gnostic , his teachings were the ones interpreted with a Gnostic view , even your own link said that . Same way the Gospels have their own Gnostic interpretations it does not make the writers of the Gospel Gnostics .

"Interpretations" really!!!!
Are you aware of the denominations in Christianity.

What's wrong with a Gnostic "Interpretating" the words of a Gnostic in a Gnostic way.

Receive sense !

And you didn't even properly address my points . Stop working presuppositions , it does not help you . You are not refuting my points , you are just enforcing your beliefs . You already have a conclusion and you are only fixated on the trash that you led to the conclusion .

This guy I addressed all your points in this thread. You on the other hand can't refute them, you only say that I'm already fixated to a conclusion(that you can't refute)

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Anyways, I don't have time for this, I'm going back to C.U today. Later.

KingEbukasBlog:
There were gnostic interpretations of Paul's teachings not that Paul Himself was a Gnostic . Just like Pauline Christianity who also took teachings of Paul and made different conflations with it and the Gnostic teachings of the Gospel .

So Gnosticism does not reject Paul again abi.
this boy & his wahala sef....

Like I earlier said , Gnosticism was dualistic . The existing realm is agathokakological - composed of good and evil . The spirit realm is good and the physical realm is evil (dualistic : opposite in nature ) . Gnostics believe that salvation is gotten through divine knowledge and Paul Himself said it was through faith by grace not by our works

Ephesians 2:8–9
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

You're getting it wrong as usual.
Gnosticism does not subscribe to the concept of "Salvation from sin", but that through Gnosis one is free from Ignorance.
There is no Hell or Heaven here.

Now , if the physical is evil that means Christ who came to the world is evil ?

**Good and Evil planes**
You don't even understand the Gnostic Demiurge. SMH

Now they circumvented this problem by saying that Christ was physical but not actually real . Then how did Christ die and resurrect if He wasn't real in the first place ?

The death and resurrection of Jesus to Gnostics, simply explain the evolution of the soul(or consciousness), from denial or death of Ego to a rising consciousness.

Romans 4: 23-25

23 But the words “it was counted to him” were not written for his sake alone, 24 but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, 25 who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification.

Paul's teachings were obviously interpreted the Gnostic way just like the Gospels not that Paul himself was a Gnostic . The above verse shows clearly that Paul supported the death and resurrection of Christ that permitted the possibility of salvation not through any form of knowledge like the Gnostics believe that will save you from darkness

Oh Pneumatic learn to reason properly.

Last bullet :

Really?

1 Gnosticism predated Christianity and Paul warned Christians that they should not be inveigled with philosophy and empty deceit according to the elemental spirits of the world .

Colossians 2:6-8
6 Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, 7 rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving.

8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits[a] of the world, and not according to Christ.

2. Gnostics believe in a lesser diety (sort of ) while Paul himself said :

Colossians 2:9
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Godhead is Theotes in Greek and it means deity - this shows Christ is the personal and bodily manifestation of all the fullness of Deity . He is God incarnate .

Paul never mentioned any lesser deity who ruled any particular realm . He saw Christ as Yahweh's equal /

One of the core beliefs of Mainstream Christianity is that Jesus Christ was qualified to be the saviour of the world because he became fully human, as shown in Hebrews2:7

“ Therefore , it was necessary for him
[ Christ] to be made in every respect like
us , his brothers and sisters…”

But this presents a silly Contradiction, when reading the scripture you posted(Col2:9), because if we are not God then Christ was not made in every respect like me, because he is God.
Comprende?

You might bring up silly argument that Jesus was both fully divine and fully human.
This does not make any sense because you would also be saying Jesus had an infinite divine mind and a finite divine mind. This is in itself contradictory again, because Flying Spaghetti Monster cannot be real and unreal at the same time.

Now let's dive in to the Gnostic interpretation of that scripture by a Gnostic Paul

In order to make sense of what that scripture was talking about==> Jesus could not be God and be like everyone else(Heb2:7), unless we are gods too.

Lets look at that scripture again from another angle.
“ For in him dwells all the fullness of
the Godhead bodily . ”

The Greek word used for the word "him" is "autos", also a reflective pronoun for the word "self"
If you put the word "the self", then you would see clearly that Paul was talking about us(the Godhead).
But wait..., Paul was obviously referring to Jesus in that verse, right?
In Gnosticism Jesus represents the Divine self in Esoteric thought.

I gave you a link where you can learn true Gnosticism, you refused to even check it out, that's why you are coming up with this silly argument.

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Well if that was your last bullet then this case is closed.
See you in another thread.

KingEbukasBlog:
You are the one making silly presuppositions - obviously what you read somewhere without being skeptical as usual since it seems to discredit Christianity , gorged on it and regurgitating here . Trying to fit non existent evidence into what you believe .

Go and prepare for school bro

What makes them silly, replying you is actually stressing me right now.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol . Remember when you said that you don't know much about the labels you give yourself . This is one of it .

You don't even know what Gnosticism is .

Na wa oo

Dishonest ko

I wonder what you are referring to as Gnosticism.
Maybe this link would help you :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism_and_the_New_Testament?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C9040498400

KingEbukasBlog:
You must be pained . I tell the truth I say it like it is You hate God and Christianity . Its very obvious you are purporting yourself as a deist like MrMontella


Whether you like am or you no like am , that's your business

I've addressed this already