₦airaland Forum

babygirlfl:

lezz:
very fine, I'm from Aniocha north to be generally precise.

lezz:
Ah, so it wasn't just meatloaf's "I'll do anything for love" , or being an advocate for a sane society devoid of the vile of extreme feminism, or that shared literary appreciation..... there had to be more... , I'm delta Ibo.

lezz:
5mins are you from delta, and what part?

bukatyne:
How do sensible hospitals do it sef?

The first question should be where is your spouse before consultations?

If the husband is too busy for consultation, How will he have time of kpekus?

cococandy:
I'll grow by a accepting that some of those guys are too busy to check out their health?

I can see how grown you are.

bukatyne:
I find it strange that a husband would not go for check ups when they are ttc.

Common sense should dictate they both go for all tests So they know If the problem is with the husband /wife/none.

Infact, hospitals should stop treating wives/husbands who come alone; it honestly defeats the purpose

And I do not buy the excuse that the men areally busy hence they cannot go for check ups. Some hosiptals work round the clock and on the average, men and women work same hours here.

bukatyne:
I find it strange that a husband would not go for check ups when they are ttc.

Common sense should dictate they both go for all tests So they know If the problem is with the husband /wife/none.

Infact, hospitals should stop treating wives/husbands who come alone; it honestly defeats the purpose

And I do not buy the excuse that the men areally busy hence they cannot go for check ups. Some hosiptals work round the clock and on the average, men and women work same hours here.

cococandy:
The bold is the summary.
Leave the other long talks

craziebone:
@innervoice: i am going to respond to your post as good as i can but pls bear with me if my post doesn't answer all of your questions. I am using a platform that is not too effective and flexible.

You are asking if boys have ever been exempted from school. My dear, Boys have been deliberately and indeliberately denied education, fact!

Your question is bringing up the old and false narative that feminists have succeeded in cementing into the psyche of the society.

Truth is...before the man concieved, organized and established school, there were no schools, fact! He had to travel long distances, risk all he could in order to get knowledge and when he got it, he sat down to organize and taught them.

In Nigeria, there has never been any active policy in place to deny women education. If you tell me that in those days, women would be told to drop out for the boy to go to school at a time when there was no enough money, then i will tell you that at that time also, boys who wanted to go to school were seen as lazy and do not want to help out on the farm hence, they were refused school fees by their parents. They had no choice but to go to the mission house and the priest would sponsor them. This is what happened to my own father. His brothers were seen as the good boys because they prefered farms to school. That won the heart of their father and my father was refused school fees.

Like Jonathan, he had no shoe! Schools were far way. They had to walk long distance in the scotching sun of Northern Nigeria. If the sun feels too hot on their legs, they would cut broad leaves by the side of the roads and stand on it, then they move on after some time. That's how men went to school! I am sure you guys have been told similar stories by your parents or grand parents.

African societies have always given education to both boys and girls. It is important we understand what education means; that it is not always the formal thing we got in schools and organized centres. Education takes different forms as we move from one society to the other. In much of subsaharan Africa, it was informal. Education is given by all societies so as to prepare the people so they can be relevant to that society. As beautiful as modern physics, engineering and computing are, the people in pre, colonial and a little bit post colonial Africa never needed it. That's why their INFORMAL curriculum never emphasized all of that. Of what use was the computer scientist going to be in village Africa at that time? They would sure need more farmers, philosophers (story tellers), historians, fishermen, artistes and performers etc. That's what their informal curriculum focused on. And boys and girls were given these education. Some of the skills and knowledge may have been gender bias, but others like: phiosophy, history, medicine, religion etc, were gender neutral. If as a feminist you believe only skills that didn't give political and economic power were what was given to women and you begin to jealous men, i suggest, like the Afar boy in rural Ethiopia, pick up a spear and go attack a lion that threatenes your livestock. Old Africa gave education to both boys and girls, fact!

The change came in when western education came around and society started moving from rural-agrarian to urban industralized. Suddenly, the man realized the farm doesn't give political and economic power anymore and as part of his adventuousness and quest for fulfilment, which are an integral part of him and not a social construct (i am NEVER GOING TO DEBATE THIS), he went to school at all cost, even if it means being branded a deviant, lazy and disrespectful like i explained above; even if his school fees were not going to be paid; even if he had to work and pay for it like he is even doing today! Fact still remains that most of the people paying their school fees are still males! An some people like Chimamanda is still being obsessed about a false male privilege. It is important to note that at that point, not many ladies showed interest in formal western education. Why should they? Why should most people, especially when they did not need to read and write to be able to function properly in their rural-agrarian society? Yes, i said "most people" because initially, and at independence, only 7percent of Nigerians were literate. And that means of the 93percent illitrates, men could account for about 46percent.

You can get angry all you want about my assertion that women are 'grounded' by nature hence their intrinsic desire for stability and security. They don't seem to be worried about this and they don't have to. It is also natural that are 'grounded' as such. Evolution frees them for that. That's why if mars becomes inhabitable today but still presents harsh condition, most people who will go there are start a life even in that harsh condition would still be men.

bellong:
Does your husband believe it is his God-given right to be polyamorous?
Does he go for check up?

If the answers to the questions are no and yes, I guess your assertion is flawed.

Yes, some men tow the path of your opinion but majority do not. The majority cannot be judged on the opinion of the few.

If I have time after church, I will dig up a study done in the Southwest before 2003 which contradicts the conclusion of the research posted here. The study opined that women are more and at higher risk of infertility than men. Like my position on this, I faulted their methodology.

If the SW study concluded on female infertility with few sample space, SE study concluded on male infertility with few sample space, can you understand what I am driving at?

Samples should be collected across the geopolitical zone to understand different geographical causes of infertility in arriving at a conclusion. The men of South East may be at higher risk of infertility compared to men in the North, Southwest and vice- versa. The females in the North may be at higher risk of infertility compared to other zones due to geographical and environmental reasons. Until data are taken across board, I am sorry that the authors cannot lay authoritative claim to their conclusion.

And I maintain, for this type of study, the space used is not enough.

bellong:
Does your husband believe it is his God-given right to be polyamorous?
Does he go for check up?

If the answers to the questions are no and yes, I guess your assertion is flawed.

Yes, some men tow the path of your opinion but majority do not. The majority cannot be judged on the opinion of the few.

If I have time after church, I will dig up a study done in the Southwest before 2003 which contradicts the conclusion of the research posted here. The study opined that women are more and at higher risk of infertility than men. Like my position on this, I faulted their methodology.

If the SW study concluded on female infertility with few sample space, SE study concluded on male infertility with few sample space, can you understand what I am driving at?

Samples should be collected across the geopolitical zone to understand different geographical causes of infertility in arriving at a conclusion. The men of South East may be at higher risk of infertility compared to men in the North, Southwest and vice- versa. The females in the North may be at higher risk of infertility compared to other zones due to geographical and environmental reasons. Until data are taken across board, I am sorry that the authors cannot lay authoritative claim to their conclusion.

And I maintain, for this type of study, the space used is not enough.

Stillfire:
Kudos to the Nigerian authors for actually getting published in PubMed. Wow I'm impressed.

babyosisi:
This is for all you males that insist that you need to check out and make sure your wives can conceive
Facts are sacred
Dinachi ,timbuktou,harveyspec cococandy,keppyy,jahblessme,bukatyne,apextitan,njokusboy,kilode100,4teelaw

all4naija:
It is funny how you are going about English language in a wrong way to support your misleading points. For your information, you are arguably writing non-standardized English with bad punctuation.

TV01:
Had to sit through a mind-numbing talk about equality, diversity and inclusion a few weels ago. The old "pay-gap" trope was rolled out - I think it was cited as "72%".

Does it exist probably. Is it the result of discrimination, unlikely. Is it institutionalised? please, if anything it's action against it that is. Even if it was would I care? Not overly, in all likelihood any extra men were making would be spent on women and children anyway.


TV

MRBrownJ:
hhmm

bewla:
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all4naija:
Do you see how you failed to make sense while looking at those two sentences in red?

all4naija:
Bwahaha... You possibly don't know what you are saying because she points out it is not about qualification as you are now making us to understand here. You are now the person arguing for argument sake. Don't quote me when you haven't done your homework. FTFY! Jeez!

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'Abortion causes cancer' - Medical Association of Nigeria

missterious:
I'm too stubborn.

FrancisTony:
Missterious, are you not tired of the senseless back and forth?

Biko, live your life as it pleases you.

FrancisTony:
Missterious, are you not tired of the senseless back and forth?

Biko, live your life as it pleases you.

missterious:
You work all day, your wife works all day too (unless she's a housewife). Why should she come back home to do all the chores while you watch TV with a beer in your hand?

missterious:
She could give the exact same reasons you just gave.