₦airaland Forum

Timbuktou:
He's not complicated. He's just exposed and enlightened.

pippimp:
If i understand you correctly, you mean while in Nigeria, your views on gay relationships was amiable? If that is the case, then you are a better person than I. It took some serious reorientation in the true meaning of freedom and rights for me to really understand. This is why i understand how they think because i used to think like that. You must have come from a well groomed environment which affected your mentality. The vast majority of Nigerians, because of societal upbringing and norms have serious issues they are not aware of. I wasn't aware of it till i was exposed to something better.

pippimp:
Your bold statement makes no sense. What research are you basing your question on? Even if there was some sort of research, who would admit to something that could earn you a death sentence? When fear is predominant in a society, you will never achieve accuracy or the truth.

cococandy:
Well I've lived in Nigeria all my life. Born and raised until very recently. And I don't agree with the mainstream opinions on many issues. So maybe that's not the problem.

5mins pls let this be the last time you mention me over this issue. It's annoying honestly.

pippimp:
Believe it or not, i completely understand the way 5minsmadness is thinking because i used to think like that. Nigerians have a level of ignorance and bitterness unparalleled. [b]Back in Nigeria, [/b]i thought my way of thinking was normal and everyone else was crazy. I never took the time to consider that if my way was normal and i had other like minded people thinking the same way, then my surroundings would be fine. I mean, i was thinking like a normal human being right? The economy would be fine, people wouldn't be burned in the streets on a daily basis, there wouldn't be trash littering every nook and cranny, policemen wouldn't be standing confidently in public collecting bribe like that was there job, etc. Nigerians don't want to understand that every country has issues and it is the magnitude and frequency of the issues that matters. What also matters is how you manage it as a people. Nigerians don't have a clue what their issues are or how to go about solving them but are quick to point out the perceived fault in others. They are a true example of the saying, "misery likes company". Since they are so depressed and unhappy, they are always on the lookout for the worst news to come of countries like the U.S.A, so they can say "ehen, i talk am. See wetin dem don do too". [b]People like him don't understand that the solution to their problem is exposure. [/b]Once they can have access to it, their perception will change. The problem is just how does one get them exposed.

Mindfulness:
[s]The idea that African homosexuality was a colonial import is a myth

Christian and Islamic forces fought to eliminate the 'unnatural damnation' and left behind a trail of homophobia

Africa has 54 countries and more than a billion people. One of the most ridiculous myths about it is that homosexuality did not exist in the continent until white men imported it. Robert Mugabe is one such propagator, calling homosexuality "un-African" and a "white disease".

Throughout history people everywhere have explored and experimented with their sexuality. The desire to do so has never been confined to particular geographical locations. Its reach is universal. Yet today the myth of a pre-colonial sexual innocence, or more fittingly, ignorance, is used to endorse anti-gay legislation and stir up homophobia and persecution in Africa. In my father's country, Nigeria, a new law passed in January carries a 14-year prison sentence for same-sex marriage and up to 10 years for membership or promotion of gay groups. In Uganda, the Anti-Homosexuality Act can impose life imprisonment. Latter-day evangelicals from the US are partly to blame for this continuing persecution, but so are Africa's political leaders such as presidents Yahya Jammeh of the Gambia and Yoweri Museveni of Uganda, who use rabble-rousing anti-gay rhetoric to increase their power base and popularity.

While much has been written about this dangerous turn of events, little has been written about its origins. Two trailblazing studies in the field – Boy Wives and Female Husbands edited by Stephen O Murray and Will Roscoe, and Heterosexual Africa? by Marc Epprecht – demolish the revisionist arguments about Africa's sexual history. From the 16th century onwards, homosexuality has been recorded in Africa by European missionaries, adventurers and officials who used it to reinforce ideas of African societies in need of Christian cleansing.

The Portuguese were among the first Europeans to explore the continent. They noted the range of gender relations in African societies and referred to the "unnatural damnation" of male-to-male sex in Congo. Andrew Battell, an English traveller in the 1590s, wrote this of the Imbangala of Angola: "They are beastly in their living, for they have men in women's apparel, whom they keep among their wives."

Transvestism occurred in many different places, including Madagascar and Ethiopia. Among the Pangwe people of present-day Cameroon and Gabon, homosexual intercourse was practised between males of all ages. It was believed to be a way to transmit wealth. The Nzima of Ghana had a tradition of adult men marrying each other, usually with an age difference of about 10 years. Similar to the pederasty of ancient Greece, Sudan's Zande tribe had a tradition of warriors marrying boys and paying a bride price, as they would for girl brides, to their parents. When the boy grew up, he too became a warrior and took a boy-wife.

In this same tribe lesbianism was practised in polygamous households. In the 18th century the Khoikhoi of South Africa used the word koetsire to describe men considered sexually receptive to other men, and soregus was the word they used for a friendship which involved same-sex masturbation.

Homosexuality is also recorded among the Siwa of Egypt. It was considered a boy's rite of passage in Benin, and woman-woman marriages involving a bride price existed in more than 30 African societies from Nigeria to Kenya to South Africa.

How far back can homosexuality be traced in Africa? You cannot argue with rock paintings. Thousands of years ago, the San people of Zimbabwe depicted anal sex between men. The truth is that, like everywhere else, African people have expressed a wide range of sexualities. Far from bringing homosexuality with them, Christian and Islamic forces fought to eradicate it. By challenging the continent's indigenous social and religious systems, they helped demonise and persecute homosexuality in Africa, paving the way for the taboos that prevail today.

The main character in my latest novel, Mr Loverman, is a 74-year-old black gay man, Barrington Walker. Married with two daughters, he has been in the closet for 50 years. Soon after the book was published, a young gay man emailed me from Nigeria expressing his fear that his life would turn out like Barrington's. I didn't know what to suggest except that, if he wanted to live openly and legally as homosexual, he had to leave his homeland. What else could I say?

Millions of gay people living in Africa face a similar choice. If they stay, they can either repress their natural sexuality or risk losing their liberty and their lives. The legacy of colonialism is alive and well. As another character in Mr Loverman says: "It's homophobia, not homosexuality, that was imported to Africa."[/s]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/08/african-homosexuality-colonial-import-myth


Homophobia was brought to Africa by white people, not homosexuality.

CC: Crackhaus, stop being so sentimental and do your research thoroughly next time around.

cococandy:
5minsmadness, Meanwhile men have been sleeping with their daughters all over Nigeria. Sometimes caught too and many such news litter this forum.

I haven't seen you mention me to gloat that such a thing is happening. Nay have you even showed any concern? But you're suddenenly excited when it happens in another country continents away from you. What's your obsession with the west.

Pls stop it. It's not a nice color on anyone.

cococandy:
Pls stop mentioning me when you're typing senseless comments.

Instead of worrying about future pedophilia in the west , why not focus on its presence in your own country? Alive and kicking and happening every second.

Crying more than the bereaved. Are we?

I swear most Nigerians are ridiculous. (Including you) Is the focus on the west supposed to relieve you of the bad feelings that come with the horrible things that happen in your own country? Where humans are burned alive on the streets and unprintable things are done by those who have a little power over others. Like girls being stripped and flogged on video by men.

Why are you (and indeed many Nigerians) addicted to masturbating over whatever you perceive to be bad news coming out of 'the west'. When you have a millions of it living with you and you're existing just fine.
It's a trend but I don't know what to call. Like some hidden way to gloat over a country to make you feel better about yours. When you should be doing is working on your own country so that you have genuine reason to feel better about it.

Cc pippimp. See the west bashing thing I was telling you about. This section is like hub of it.

Timbuktou:
Don't mind the obese rabbit. She no get comment.

Mindfulness:
Google is your friend.

As far as I am concerned, the guy can bleep his mama twice a day. I don't care.

Mindfulness:
Inbreeding which may likely result in a collection of genetic disorders is the first and foremost reason why in.cest is a taboo.

And a society is in no way required to do away with all taboos for the simple reason that it has done away with others.


@bold
Good you know!

Timbuktou:
You are out of wriggle room. It's ok to admit to say you're clueless about a thing. Nobody knows everything. Your request for money is just an indirect admission of your inability to defend your deviant tendencies. Don't worry, I'll be merciful.

Simples.


PS: Now that you're mentioning TV unsolicited, I can't but wonder how many times his pictures must have brought you comfort on cold, lonely nights.

TV01, bringing succour to nairaland spinsters and unhappily married women since 1584.

progress69:
Jock itch is my suspect over HPV.

istayfresh:
i think i have the same thing,please i need some advice cause the stuff is growing on the side of my laps.near my testes.it itches me and the itching is sweetnin when i scratch it,please is there any cure to wipe them off,they look like small pimples in a uniform pattern.
it itches me daily,but when i scratch it,it becomes sweet to scratch,is this also a hsp virus or something else.

please i need help because i feel embarassed when im naked,it itches me on both sides of my lap,what cream can i use to wipe them off,please doctors in the aous.
i will attach pictures of it later.

please i do not want any insults and ish,i just need advice and possibly a cure to it.
it itches in hot weather,or after i just have a bath,

OSONDU RICHARD – [b]I patronize prostitutes[/b]because they are harmless and fun to be with unlike girlfriends that will give STD’s and unnecessary disease and even cheat on their boyfriends.

obowunmi:
HELLO,

Someone just infected me with the HPV virus.

Booty call is not really free after all.

Doctors in their house, what does this mean for me as a man?

Winneygirl:
It's only a matter of time now.
'It' will soon fall off.

LadyOfgrace:
why didn't you round it off to 1000 likes?

byvan03:
As blushing machine abi?


Actually the whole traditional marriage protocol is beyond annoying. There is no wedding as cool as court wedding. You, your spouse, 2 witnesses. Pay a little extra and have it conducted right there in your sitting room, case closed.

lezz:
trivial lies. She seldom makes a comment without that.

byvan03:
Blush indeed.

LadyOfgrace:
yes

byvan03:
No 2 really? you have no idea. I will walk out on all traditions and the ancestors can roll over in their graves for all I care. You only consider your loved ones and sacrifice just a bit of yourself not to hurt them.