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Crime › Re: Full List Of Nigerians Indicted For $1.1B Internet Scam In The US by 9jakool: 6:06am On Aug 23, 2019

cocococo:
Nigerians, the most religious, but yet most crooked, people on earth.

We pray so much, yet we are still the unholiest of the unholy in the entire world. A nation with more churches and mosques than people, but so crime-ridden in every aspect of society.

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Crime › Re: Full List Of Nigerians Indicted For $1.1B Internet Scam In The US by 9jakool: 5:58am On Aug 23, 2019

So, you were blessed with the privilege to come to another country to better yourself, but instead you continued your miscreant lives abroad disgracing actual hardworking Nigerians. These people really think the rest of the world operates as lawless as Nigeria. People please open your eyes and understand how effective the systems in other nations are. America is not a country that turns a blind eye on crime unlike our own, where people can commit crime with impunity.

America has already put immigration restrictions on Nigeria. There is no more American visa lottery for Nigerians as we speak. This was implemented in the US starting last year due to the number of Nigerians who abuse and cheat their immigration system. We are a crime-ridden shit.hole country and most of us only know how to flee from our problems or pray for miracles instead of actually addressing them. If the youths are as motivated and organized about a true revolution as they are with Big Brother, we might start to shake things around.

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Crime › Re: Nigerians Indicted As US Charges 80 For Fraud, Money Laundering by 9jakool: 5:48am On Aug 23, 2019

femo86:
I saw the list on instablog... Na Igbo guys full am.. Not discriminating as yoruba guys also do yahoo yahoo... However I've not seen a hausa yahoo guy.

This is disheartening

But God go punish all of una wey don spoil �� for us inclusive the politicians...

Outside politics, hausa people are very pious and conservative which comes with the advantage of being humble. Some of the most humble and honest people I've met are hausas.

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Crime › Re: Nigerians Indicted As US Charges 80 For Fraud, Money Laundering by 9jakool: 5:42am On Aug 23, 2019

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Politics › Re: So When Will Hausa Produce A President In Nigeria? by 9jakool: 9:50pm On Aug 20, 2019

Olamhen:
Op you're wrong about abdulsalam and babangida, one of them if not the two are hausa, they're are not nupe at all. Both of them are not nupe an.nwver claimed to be nupe. Abdulsalam is from kontagora which is a hausa dominated region in Niger state. So saying hausa never ruled Nigeria is a lie and I an never accept with you. If you know Niger state well you won't call abdulsalam and babangida nupe or gwari.

Both are actually Gwari ethnically from Minna. Because they are muslim doesn't make them Hausa. It's like people from Akwa-Ibom being mistakenly called Igbos.

@IntrovertedK

Politics › Re: So When Will Hausa Produce A President In Nigeria? by 9jakool: 9:39pm On Aug 20, 2019

1.) I've said this before that Fulani people have latched on to the Hausa-Fulani title and benefited more from the politically alliance in the name of Islamic unity. There has never been a single Hausa head of state in Nigeria, yet 4 have came from Fulani, the most out of any ethnic group. Even Gwari, a minority has produced 2 heads of state.

2.) All of the monarchs ruling over Hausa people are Fulani and their political and elitist class are dominated by Fulanis. This has in turn enable a minority ethnic group to USE and CONTROL one of the largest ethnic groups in Nigeria.

3.) The notion that it's hard to find pure Hausas left in the North since Hausa and Fulani have mixed for centuries is a myth. This is yet another manipulative tactic.

4.)There are also Hausas and Fulanis in other countries like Niger, yet not such union exists in that country unlike in Nigeria. Hausa and Fulani people have very different culture and languages.

Politics › Re: Nigeria’s Population Explosion Is Frightening - Buhari by 9jakool: 6:20pm On Aug 20, 2019

Stargurl20:
Hausas has the largest population.... They are about 29%... Yoruba just 21%, igbo 18% , ijaw 10%, Kanuri..4% ibibio 3.5 % n tiv 2.5 % .....who's now the cause of the population xplosion?

In no way is Hausa people 29%. People need to separate Hausa and Fulani as the Hausa-Fulani political grouping only serves as a detriment to the rest of the country. The banner exists at the convenience of Fulani people. The political class of Hausa people is fairly dominated by Fulanis. Despite one of the majority ethnic groups, there has never been a single Hausa head of state in the history of Nigeria, but there has been 4 Fulanis, a minority group. In Niger republic, there are also both Hausa and Fulani people but no such thing as "Hausa-Fulani". Also 29% might include other minority tribes in Northern Nigeria falsely classified as Hausa. Hausas are a minority in Bauchi and Gombe, yet people misclassify all people from those states as Hausa.

Also, ijaws are not 10%. Bayelsa is the 2nd least populated state in Nigeria with a population of just about 2 million and the Ijaws found in other states are in the minority.

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Politics › Re: Nigeria’s Population Explosion Is Frightening - Buhari by 9jakool: 5:55pm On Aug 20, 2019*

What do you expect in country where illiteracy rate is 40%, polygamy is common practice and poverty is rampant. People who live in poverty should be the last people wanting 6 or 7 kids. A child is a blessing, not something you push out on the street to hawk. People's attitude towards contraception, child marriage, polygamy and illiteracy are all to blame.

Nigeria’s population explosion Is frightening, but you, Buhari didn't think about that when you decided to have 10 CHILDREN?

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Politics › Re: Who Are The Majority In Delta State, Urhobo, Itsekiri Or Igbos? by 9jakool: 6:56am On Aug 15, 2019*

chijiblaze:
Not really.
The Anioma-Igbo group has a total of nine 9⃣ local government areas. Whereas the Urhobo, even when combined with the Isoko only have eight 8⃣.
So it is clear which of them is the majority.

The Urhobo LGAs are more populated on average though. This is a run down of the last Nigerian census statistics by percentages:

Combined Predominant Urhobo LGAs: 38.2%
Anioma: 31.5%
Isoko: 9.2%

It's important to know that this data includes non-indigenes of those regions as well. I also didn't include the Urhobo population of Warri South and other LGAs in the state. At least 40% of Delta state should be Urhobo which if combined with Isoko, the combined Urhobo-Isoko percentage should be close to half of the state's population.

Crime › Re: Two Yahoo Boys Jailed In Ilorin (Photos) by 9jakool: 8:14pm On Aug 02, 2019

Crime rates will always be higher when there's lack of jobs. The Nigerian government, if you can call it that is a failure and the country needs a true revolution. People need to wake up.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Is The Most Widely Spoken Language Outside Nigeria And Africa. by 9jakool: 8:10pm On Aug 02, 2019

Outside of Nigeria, I think Swahili has more L2 speakers, but Yoruba could be the most spoken African language outside of Africa.

Politics › Re: Omeyele Sowore Is Not Yoruba But Ijaw From Ondo by 9jakool: 8:05pm On Aug 02, 2019

KingOdart:
You people like living in denial

So why was Ijaw written on his Wikipedia page?

Having Yoruba name doesn't make him Yoruba

Sowore is an Ijaw man and that is the fact

It's not an argument he's Apoi. Apois in Ondo state have assimilated and mixed with Yoruba cultures and people for so long that they have their own distinct Yoruba dialect. The Arogbo Ijaws in Ese Odo are fully fledged Ijaws though. Apois have lived peacefully with their Ikale and Iaje neighbors that I'm sure most of the Apois would rather be apart of Ondo state than be with Bayelsa.

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Politics › Re: 5 RCCG Pastors Kidnapped – Adeboye Reveals by 9jakool: 7:52pm On Aug 02, 2019

Religion is a big business in Nigeria and it's very profitable. There is a problem if you cannot afford to put food on the table but your pastor owns a private jet without a day job. People only know how to pray for miracles and not use their God-given brain to think for themselves and fix their problems. This is why our leaders are so corrupt because they know they can hide under religion, God this..Allah that. People would rather pray for light, water and good roads than hold their leaders accountable.

Politics › Re: Gani Adams Reveals How Yorubas Lost Lokoja Without A Fight by 9jakool: 7:49pm On Jul 09, 2019

AntiBalaka:
They just strolled into town one day and asked the Oyorubas to leave.

Chai!

Can't you Niggers defend a piece of clay?

Oyo Ile, Ilorin Osogbo and even Lokoja all in less than 3 decades?

Pathetic!

It's called history! No history is complete without heroes, victors, villains and yes even traitors. Afonja betrayed Oyo and like all traitors, he got what he deserved; paid back with his own treachery and executed by those he trusted.

What's 3 decades? Oyo-ile was sacked 500 years ago and when was Osogbo ever conquered? And I don't remember when Lokoja was ever ruled by an emir.

Answer this: If Sokoto took Ilorin, what was stopping them from conquering the rest of Yorubaland, Igbos and all of Niger delta? Yorubas collectively halted the expansion of Sokoto Southwards. If not for Yorubas halting the expansion of Sokoto, you would probably be bowing to Allah by now.

Politics › Re: Ruga Settlements Dead On Arrival In South West, Says YCE by 9jakool: 12:56am On Jul 02, 2019

technicallyrich:
what hav i said that is wrong.
Dont ijaws have ancestrial land in lagos and ondo state.
So why then do the elders said is a yoruba state.
I repeat we will not give our land to the yorubas.
Everyone know these so it is good i corret the elders here that ijaws majorly own these states.
Mind you apapa means groundnut in ijaw and ijaws are the reason why ondo state is niger delta.
Now who is wrong and how am i derailing the thread.

Some of what you say are simply lies disguised as truth.
Ijaws aren't native to Lagos state. Ijaws in SW are in Ese Odo LGA in Ondo State.
Apapa is not Ijaw, it was settled by the Aworis. They traded with Ijaws back in the day, so exchange of ideas is not new.
Is Ese Odo an Ijaw word?
As for your kins in Ondo, they are culturally apart of SW as they have absorbed so much Yoruba culture for centuries by now that it's difficult to differentiate them from the Ilajes.
Ilaje is also in Niger Delta so the presence of Ijaws is not the only reason Ondo is included.

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Politics › Re: I’m Not Handling ‘ruga’ Programme, Osinbajo Faults Miyetti Allah’s Claim by 9jakool: 12:42am On Jun 29, 2019

Why not just have cattle colonies in Hausa territory since Hausas and Fulanis are sworn brothers?

Fulani people have latched on to the Hausa-Fulani title and benefited more from the politically alliance in the name of Islam and brotherhood. All of the Hausa monarchs are Fulani and their political and elitist class are dominated by Fulanis. This has in turn enable a minority ethnic group to USE and CONTROL one of the largest ethnic group in Nigeria. There are Hausas and Fulanis in other countries like Niger, yet not such union exists like in Nigeria.

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A SINGLE HAUSA HEAD OF STATE IN THE HISTORY OF NIGERIA YET FOUR HAS CAME FROM A FULANI MINORITY, the most out of any ethnic group.

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Culture › Re: List Of Yoruba Dialects by 9jakool: 3:49pm On Dec 22, 2018*

Remii:
I am from the same place as you, Inisa, I also attended schools at Ikirun and Osogbo, I can tell you that we speak Oyo in that area. Iwo may be close to Oyo, just as Iseyin or Ibarapa, but the don't speak the same dialect as Oyo. The reason why the written Yoruba is close to Oyo dialect cannot be separated from influence of early Yoruba writers like Bishop Ajayi and Johnson that wrote first set of Yoruba books

Well many speak Oyo now after decades of acculturation, but generations ago, you didn't. Even if you go to Ijebu-Ode, the common form of Yoruba spoken people there is standard Yoruba. I'm very familiar with Northern Osun and Southern kwara axis. And aren't places like Odo-Otin Ibolo? The founders of Inisa even came from Ofa area.

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Culture › Re: List Of Yoruba Dialects by 9jakool: 1:22pm On Dec 22, 2018

scholes0:
I don't get what the bolded means? oyo and Standard Yoruba makes a distinction between S and SH or not?

Well I said they do

Culture › Re: List Of Yoruba Dialects by 9jakool: 1:09pm On Dec 22, 2018

scholes0:
Yoruba has got three variants of that fricative.

"S", "Sh", and "Ch"

When the linguists met to decide the orthography of the yoruba language, they decided to adopt the Sh sound for written Yoruba since it was in the middle.

I'm well aware that there exist 3 main dialectal variants of the sibilant fricative in Yoruba with the exception of "Z" in Olukumi. While Oyo and SY make the distinction between "S" and "Sh", this distinction isn't prominent in the speeches of much of Northern Osun.

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Culture › Re: List Of Yoruba Dialects by 9jakool: 12:09pm On Dec 22, 2018

babtoundey:
I don't think this is entirely true. Iwo dialect my be close to Oyo but Ikirun, Iragbiji and other Yoruba dialect from that axis don't speak anything related or close to Oyo. My mum is Iwo while my dad is Iragbiji. I know the difference between the two dialect is like that of white and black thread.

One key difference is the use of "s" vs "sh" sound in Oyo.

Culture › Re: Who Is The Real Originator Of These Popular Words -igbos Or The Yorubas. by 9jakool: 11:16am On Dec 22, 2018

Probz:
cc. 9jakool

Really?

Obi means parent. Don't worry, it doesn't sound at all like Igbo version tonally and it stems from a different root altogether.
The stem verb "bi" means to born or to give birth. O + bi refers to one's parent.

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Culture › Re: List Of Yoruba Dialects by 9jakool: 9:04pm On Dec 18, 2018*

scholes0:
1) Owus were decimated as you know.. no need to go into the history, although there are still a few villages, Ago Owu, Orile owu, Araromi, kajola etc are still there like you rightly pointed out, then there are owu sections of Abeokuta North and Abeokuta South lgas.

Yes the Owu population was decimated, but sometimes I feel like people think Owus are completely extinct in their original territory, which isn't true.

2) Ilorin can not be a seperate dialect at all, everything about it points towards Oyo Yoruba. In parts of Ilorin east and Ilorin south, there is some igbomina influence. really there is no boundary between Oyo and Ilorin in Kwara, Ilorin is Oyo speaking, the other Yoruba groups there being the Igbolo, Igbomina, Ekiti and Yagba. Not even sure if there is anything like "Ilorin Yoruba" except you are using it in the same context as one would use Ibadan Yoruba, Lokoja Yoruba or Akure Yoruba.

By that standard, Lagos Yoruba would fall under that category, which I agree with. Also, languages and dialects aren't meant to be stagnant as they evolve overtime. The urban areas have developed their own unique speech, so I agree with you. Those urban dialects are derivatives of the historic dialects and thus fall under their classification.

3) Northern Osun state has the Oyos: (Iwo, Ejigbo, Ife Odan, Ikire), Igbolos: (Okuku, Inisha, Igbaye ad numerous villages including Offa and environs in Kwara of course), Igbominas: ( Ila Orangun, Oke Ila, Ora igbomina and co)
I am guessing these are the groups you are referring to as northern Osun state, otherwise the fourth groups would be the Ijeshas in Ibokun, Esa Oke, Imesi ile and co, which are all quite northerly).
Osogbo on it own part seem to have been heavily ijesa early in its history, however the Oyo became dominant when a very large number of them continued streaming into the city due to all the constant fighting (internecine wars), and especially after the collapse of Oyo. They speak Oyo now.

Actually, Northern Osun is much more complex than that. According to history, shortly after its foundation, Osogbo was absorbed under Ibolo, not under Oyo proper. You should also know that Ibolo territories goes beyond Offa and the adjacent areas you mentioned. If you look at the history, then you would know that Iresa, situated between Ogbomosho and Ejigbo was the most prominent Ibolo town before Offa became the HQ. Traditionally, Ibolo territory also includes Ede, Ilobu, Ikirun, and Ejigbo. However, the people from Iwo down south to Ikire, Gbogan as well as the areas to the West of Iwo are Oyo.

4)Northern Nago is different from both Manigri-Kambole-Bassila-Kikele and Ana, there three different varieties, Anas are in Anie (Ana) town, Kamina, Elavagnon, Atakpame,
Even south of Atakpame there are still Ana-yorubas like those in Glei, Esse Ana, Buko etc and those in the region of Tokpli.
On another note, i am not sure if mokole in the faaar North (Kandi, Benin) can actually be considered a proper Yoruba dialect. It can't even show on this map using this same scale.

Then there is Ijaiye dialect that is in the same situation as Owu. There are also groups of Non Yoruba origin that are practically Yorubas now. Don't know how to classify their dialects. Good examples are Apois, some Baribas, Ogoris, Nigerian Güns, Some Akoko Edos. Et.c
They probably all speak the General variety

Northern Nago according to Ethnologue refers to the variety of Yoruba spoken in Kambole, Bassila,and Mangri. The people are one of the least centralized in comparison to other Yoruba groups so it makes sense that their is no real collective term to identify the people. The Northern Nago terminogy is used to differentiate it from the Nago dialect and people of Pobe, Ifonyi and Ipokia.

Even though Mokole has significantly diverged from Yoruba proper, if you look at its classification, it falls closer to Yoruba proper than the other dialects like Idasa or Nago despite the similarities. This is because Mokole language directly descended from an older form of Oyo Yoruba. Similarly like Olukwumi, it diverged from a dialect of Yoruba proper.
Their name "mokole" means to "reject home" which makes sense considering they fled from Oyo a few hundreds years ago. The dialect however despite its close origin with Oyo Yoruba has diverged significantly and it even incorporates Bariba vocabulary which makes it less intelligible.

Did Ijaiye have its own dialect? I thought it was originally founded in Egba Gbagura territory like Ibadan.
The groups you listed like Bariba, Ogori, and Guns speak General Yoruba with their own unique accent with addition to their native tongue except for the Apoi. Apois in Ondo unlike the other groups actually don't have their own language as it was lost ages ago. Apois in Ondo actually have developed their own unique dialect which is grouped with SEY dialects.

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Culture › Re: List Of Yoruba Dialects by 9jakool: 6:57am On Nov 18, 2018

scholes0:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4911/44066675470_5be8fdf934_o.jpg

Ok I have a lot of questions. I'm working on a very detailed map of Yoruba dialects. I've researched into the nitty-gritty of boundary split for dialect/subgroup division.

1.) Is Owu even spoken as it used to anymore? The only LGA I know of where you can find significant native remnant is in Aiyedaade LGA South of Gbongan.

2.) Would you consider Ilorin a separate dialect or would you say it's still Oyo seeing that it grew from Oyo dialect? Also where would you draw the boundary for Oyo/Ilorin in Kwara?

3.) Likewise how would you class the people in northern Osun state? Where would you place Iwo and Osogbo? Personally I think Iwo is closer to Oyo.

4.) Actually that map is inclusive of the main groups, but there is a dialect north of Ana that doesn't have a distinct name, most linguist call it Kambole or Manigri or Northern Nago. It's spoken between Kambole in Togo and Bassila in Benin.

Crime › Re: Nigerian Prince Arrested For Scamming Hundreds Of Job Seekers In New York(Pics) by 9jakool: 8:00am On Jul 27, 2018

He sure doesn't live up to his title. This is why the world stereotypes Nigerians belittling the accomplishments of hardworking Nigerians

Politics › Re: Why Top Politicians Are Defecting From APC To PDP by 9jakool: 7:53am On Jul 27, 2018

Nigerian politicians have no integrity to stand on.

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Politics › Re: Lagos And The Nigerian Tribal Tragedy by 9jakool: 9:48pm On Jul 21, 2018*

Other cities around the world like Tokyo have adequate infrastructure that supports twice the number of people in Lagos. There is no excuses for the way Lagos is!

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Politics › Re: Electric Atmosphere As Bukola Saraki Returns Home To Ilorin by 9jakool: 2:34am On Jul 18, 2018

goshee:
do you mean kemi Adeosun is the thieve here cus last time I checked Saraki didn't forge any of his document and Aunty Kemi is still mouth sealed

Most Nigerian politicians are thieves as far as am concern.

Politics › Re: Electric Atmosphere As Bukola Saraki Returns Home To Ilorin by 9jakool: 9:18pm On Jul 17, 2018

Look at how he's paraded like some king, when the people cheering him up are most likely living in poverty. Nigerians and their love for thieves baffles me.

Culture › Re: The Most Influential Ethnic Group In Nigeria. by 9jakool: 4:08am On Jul 09, 2018

People like to underestimate the Fulanis' political power, but the facts is they are the most politically dominant ethnic group in Nigeria being over represented despite only accounting for under 10% of the population.

Politics › Re: Photo Of Senator Dino Malaye Playing With His 3 Puppies by 9jakool: 3:53am On Jul 09, 2018

Let's celebrate corrupt politicians!

Food › Re: Ekiti/ondo State Cuisine by 9jakool: 5:48pm On Jun 22, 2018

ADUKKY:
I think amuyale is also known as Ebiripo. I school in Ago iwoye, i remember laughing when the hawkers chant their wares, you hear something like Iboriiii o. Ikokore is also peculiar to the ijebus and they also have their way of cooking their egusi, if you are easily irritated you may nt be able to eat it but very sweet.

Yes, you are right. It's the same thing but with different names.

I forgot to mention egusi ijebu, garri ijebu, and ikokore.

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