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[quote author=Dayoto post=68333238][/quote]I'm well versed in Nigeria's ethnic minorities, but I've never heard of the Abarra tribe. What's another name for the tribe? Often times, what I see is that many ethnic minorities name, especially in the North also have names that are more popularized by major groups. Can you give me a state and local government(s) from North Central where these people are found? If they are an Afroasiatic group, then they can be natively found in Plateau or Nasarawa states and maybe the FCT.

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Sinistami:
Iam Zarama in MA Father's side then Epie Attisa in my mom side all in Yenagoa.

Interesting! I don't know much about Zarama, but I know Epie Attisa people speak a distinct language that closer to Edo.

EMMAUGOH:
Was he speaking on behalf of vanguard news?

His Facebook account are his PRIVATE account. But your Oba is leader and his statement was made in ab Oba capacity which if yorubas were to be Northern folks. U know what such speech could have denigrated to in such a period.

No, he isn't speaking on behalf of Vanguard, I didn't say that. When you work in journalism, your "PRIVATE" account is still under public scrutiny, so yes if his journalistic integrity is compromised by his bigotry, Vanguard has every right to take necessary course of action.

Oba of Lagos is not my leader. That out of the way, I'm not excusing his behavior, so save your speech.

EMMAUGOH:
I never supported what he said but some people have said worse in the past yet nothing happened. U know a whole 2nd class Oba once called a meeting among Igbo elites nd traders living in Lagos . The whole lias meeting ended up in an Oba telling a whole tribe they would get drowned if they fail to vote for his candidate in a democratic setting.
Nobody might have replied him then nd he never Apologized nd you know hate begat hate..

So even in my sorry state I still feel that the yoruba elites actually started this both oflline nd online
As if the man resign, all he said will turn to false. Yorubas are good in fighting fellow southerners..
Anyway am quite clear whatever is happening nowadays is a huge advantage to Hausa/fulani grip in Nigeria.

Southerners are really enjoying their chain. 1966 counter coup was 3 billion % successful.

Yes, both what he said and what oba of Lagos did will fall in the definition of bigotry and tribalism, but it's a little different because the oba of Lagos is not an editor of an online news publication. Bigotry is simply unethical in journalism. It takes away your credibility as a Journalist and in this instance, it can affect the image of Vanguard.

Sinistami:
Hmmm you from Ondo right dats where mah girl friend is from. And Yeah we have a significant yoruba Population in Yenagoa.

Interesting...What Ijaw clan are you?

Demmzy15:
Palestine has oil, land and minerals? Are you kidding me? Seriously, you nerd to make research before mentioning. And you shouting life expanctancy, war torn Iraqis and Yemenis have higher life expanctancy than Nigeria, does that mean they're better than us?

Yes, Palestine has oil and natural gas, access to the sea, and land. Israelis are settling in their land, taking over their farms, building estates on their soil, and controlling their land resources. The offshore oil and natural gas deposits in Gaza are largely owned by Israelis and not Palestinians. Gaza is in a state of blockade, so despite access to the sea, they aren't reaping much of the benefits. So, gladly throw away your excuses. Why can't Nigerians protest as much on domestic affairs? Nigeria as a country has no shame. A nation with selfish mentality that celebrates criminals in power. Nigerians don't even recognize their fundamental basic human rights and don't fight for them, but they are quick to jump and fight for the rights of others. Isn't that inferiority complex?

I'm talking about the state of human development overall, I never mentioned life expectancy, not once. Do not misquote me!

Demmzy15:
What resources are you talking about? Please start listing them!

Resources including land, oil, minerals etc. Nigeria has exclusive access to its oil, gas, land, and sea. Despite this, Palestine a country you described as a prison, and a country without full control of its resources has a higher human development than Nigeria. It's not complicated to understand.

Demmzy15:
There's no running water in Palestine, there's no electricity. Palestine survives on foreign aid, nothing is going in or coming out of Gaza without Israel. There's a blockade of land, air and sea in Gaza, it's literally the biggest prison in the world.

I'm not in support of the protests between.

Yes, I am aware of the blockade and difficult hardship in Gaza, but nothing I said in my previous comment is a lie. Don't twist my words. Don't you find it ridiculous that people in the biggest prison in the world have a higher human development index than Nigeria, a country with freedom to control its vast resources? That is my point all along.

Paperwhite:
When all Nigerians aggrieved by the murderous activities of these barbaric humanity joined their anger then the fulanis will go into extinction.

Calls for genocide...Classic African

Misplaced priorities

How about they protest on domestic issues. There is 24 hr electricity in Jerusalem (both Israeli and Palestinian side), there is running water and despite the conflict between the two, they both have a higher human development and better infrastructure than Nigeria. Nigerians don't protest for their rights, which is why you can tolerate garbage from your leaders.

This is how civil wars start smh.

What is it to celebrate? Is the the fact that an innocent creature was killed or the fact that you can proudly say you know what human flesh tastes like? Seriously, does that look appetizing? I swear, common sense is lacking in Nigeria. And we wonder where the mysterious ailments come from. Eating bats transmits ebola, eating grasscutters transmits lassa virus, eating monkeys transmits monkeypox. If only people use their brains.

Chimpazees are the closest animal to humans. They are 99% related to humans. As if the thought of eating something that close to human is not disturbing enough, digest this for a fact: Because their genes are so close to humans, chimpanzees can transmit and often carry human diseases. The HIV virus is derived from the chimpanzee's SIV virus.

They are also rare in Nigeria, as they are on the verge of extinction because of stupid behaviors like this. Animals like giraffes and rhinocerous do not exist in Nigeria anymore because of bushmeat culture and disregard for nature.

buceta:
I'm visiting Nigeria from the U.S, and Lagos is the most ridiculous place I have ever seen. Why are the people in this city so disorganized? Does this have something to do with the Yoruba culture?

You have chickens playing around in sewage, kids playing in mountains of garbage. Donkeys walking on the sidewalk, people walking in the road. Goats shitting in the street. No maintenance of buildings, no drainage, shitty food, shitty internet, shitty everything. Aren't you people ashamed to have foreigners come to a place like Lagos?

Welcome to Nigeria!

Winters22:


Thanks a load.
Will follow up on it as soon as I get the chance. Don't want to waste my Views

Just a little heads up. People Groups gave Hausa a seperate page. Hausa is shown in the map to be found in Burkina Faso, Benin, Ghana, Togo, etc. even though they are native to Nigeria and Niger.

Here is the link
http://www.peoplegroups.org/Explore/ClusterDetails.aspx?rop2=C0090#topmenu

Winters22:
something of the sort, yes. More like a term paper.

Well, in that case, let me direct you to some credible online sources.

People groups document ethnolinguistic in all parts of the world. This is a link to their Chadic site.
http://www.peoplegroups.org/Explore/ClusterDetails.aspx?rop2=C0062#topmenu
You can click show more for more options and feel free to explore their map.

Here is another website call ethnologue. This is their Chadic list. They only allow 6 maximum views on their site, so make sure to not leave the page since you only have six views.
https://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/chadic

Winters22:
thanks for your contribution. I really appreciate it

I will also like. to know if there are any groups apart from the ones u mentioned that speak Chadic languages. They don't have to be natives of that country.

You seem very curious about Chadic languages. Are you doing some sort of research project?

Winters22:
thanks for your contribution. I really appreciate it

I will also like. to know if there are any groups apart from the ones u mentioned that speak Chadic languages. They don't have to be natives of that country.

You seem to be curious on Chadic languages. Are you doing some sort of research project?

Winters22:
thanks a lot.
are there any Chadic languages spoken in Benin? I came across it somewhere

There are no native Chadic languages in Benin.

Winters22:
Hello. Any Linguist or Language Enthusiast here? I need a list of 10 Chadic languages spoken in 10 different countries. I only know of the Hausa Language.

I am writing a paper on it.

Any contribution is duly appreciated.

The estimated 150 Chadic languages are natively spoken in 5 countries in the Eastern Sahel region. They are spoken in the modern day countries of Nigeria (northern & central), Niger (southern), Chad (central), as well as the uppermost parts of Cameroon, and Central African Republic.

1. Outside of Hausa, Angas is the Chadic language with the highest number of speakers. It's spoken in Central Nigeria in Plateau state, especially LGAs of Kanke and Pankshin.

2. Situated directly North of the Angas, are the Sayawa or Zaar people. They are mainly found in Bogoro and Tafawa Balewa, as well as sorrounding areas in Bauchi State.

3. Kamwe, is likely the third most spoken Chadic language after Angas. It's primarly spoken in the rugged Mandara mountains, which is a very densely populated and linguistically hotbed. It's mostly spoken in Michika LGA in Adamawa state in Northeastern Nigeria. It's also spoken in neighboring LGAs with some communities also found along the border in Cameroon.

4. Psikye or Kapsiki is considered by many to be a Kamwe dialect. It's spoken in the Far North region of Cameroon, and across the border in Nigeria.

5. Kilba is a language spoken in Hong local government in Adamawa state of Nigeria. It's related to Marghi (Southern variety).

Marghi is a group of related languages spoken by an ethnic group in Northeastern Nigeria. Its divided into Central, Southern, and Western varieties. They are spoken
6. Marghi (South) is mainly spoken in Askira-Uba Lga of Southern Borno state and Madagali LGA, as well as surrounding LGAs in Northern Adamawa state in Northeastern Nigeria.

7. Marghi (Central) is mainly concentrated in Damboa Lga of Southern Borno. The language is unique because it has an extensive phonology with distinct 84 consonants which is the most consonants of any living language in the world.

8. Marghi (Putai or Western) is spoken in parts of Damboa, Kaga, and Chibok Lgas. Although Putai people number in their hundreds of thousands, the language is mainly only spoken by a very small handful of people (elders). It's a nearly extinct language and it's spoken by a few dozen people or less tan 100 people. It can be considered one of the smallest, if not the smallest Chadic language. Most Putai people have switched to Kanuri, a Nilo-saharan language.

9 and 10.) Mubi and Kajakse are two related languages and are the two Easternmost spoken Chadic language. They are spoken largely in Sila province of Chad which shares a border with Sudan.

11. Buduma, also known as Yedina is a language spoken the the triborder of Chad, Nigeria, and Niger. It's the only other natively spoken Chadic language in Niger Republic outside of Hausa.

Tokziby:
If u claim Leopard = Ekun, then what is Amotekun??

It's true that there is no Tiger in Africa except in the zoo but u can never write out the possibility of its existence in Africa cos of its given name Ogidan/Ekun.
Remember the Yoruba Adage that says' aja Ti Oba re Ile Ekun to Bo... Were they referring to Leopard, tiger or lion?
Bro think about it...

That adage is reffering to a leopard.

Ekun means leopard. It's plain and simple.

Amotekun/Jakumo is not a leopard, but an animal that's related to a leopard. It's a type of wildcat. In reality, there is not a traditional word for tiger in Yoruba as they are not indigenous to Africa, but I've seen people use amotekun for tiger.

buhariguy:
did your life change even with your ineffectual buffoon corruption.

Even if we are not benefiting from both side,
It is expedient for us to stop corruption whether we are benefiting or not.

Did I struct a nerve with you? Answer my question. How has your life changed under Buhari? I only asked a simple question. There is no need for attacks. Just answer my question.

PAGAN9JA:
Alafin is a traditionalist first and foremost!

Don't mind that fool. I've never seen a muslim who oversees festivals of sango, ogun, egungun (you name it) in his palace. Yoruba rulers are adherent in foreign religions on the surface or in name only.

lilfreezy:
Cos they ain't Islamic schools. They want all schools to follow the Islamic curriculum in the state so as to maintain its caliphate status.

Yoruba ronu o

Is Al Bayan not Islamic?
And who are you to say Yoruba ronu.

buhariguy:
to settled the issue op raised,

Yoruba will vote for buhari,

Igbo will vote for buhari except the jobless lazy idiotic pigs of Biafra.

Middle belt will for buhari,

Hausa and Fulani will for buhari,

We south South will also vote for buhari.
Buhari all the way to 2023.

How has your life changed under Buhari?

The title of this thread should be "Tribes that have produced the richest people in Nigeria." Millionaires and billionaires are not a representation of a tribe. This thread is plain stupid. The average Nigerian is poor and tribe is irrelevant because the average Nigerian suffers from the system irregardless of tribe. Its quite amusing that some people are willing to live in perpetual darkness and delusion created by their own tribalism.

gregyboy:
Ok....did it say conqured ...no it didnt fellow yorubas like will say its conquering ...this was simply migration the oyo king took advantage of the people and added them to it territory ...these were d same group of people who ran from war and slave raid to seek comfort in Dahomey ur king took advantage of them as well as history is concerned oyo only colonized his brothers ...
Its strength still lies within a kingdom

- This argument is so unnecessary. Conquering and colonizing are not exclusive. To colonize a people, you must conquer them directly or indirectly. Maybe the word you are looking for is assimilation.

- I am very familiar with Oyo and Dahomey's history. Dahomey was conquered sometime in the 1740s during the Oyo-Dahomey wars, which is when it became a vassal state. The Dahomey wouldn't be completely free for almost a century in 1823 when king Ghezo defeated Oyo under the aid of a well-known Portuguese Brazilian slave trader known as Francisco de Souza. Much of this history is actually recorded by the Europeans who had vested interest in the area. They even recorded the fall of the kingdom of Whydah in 1727 to Dahomey's forces some years prior to the defeat by Oyo. The kingdom of Whydah was important to them because it was a major supplier of slaves.

-I don't know what exactly you mean by the bolded. Ketu did not seek comfort in Dahomey. Ketu was Oyo's ally, which makes Ketu a sworn enemy of Dahomey. Ketu and Dahomey were like oil and water, so none seek refuge in the other. The two were in constant warfare. Ketu was a vassal state just like Porto-Novo. Both kingdoms maintained a degree of autonomy, but were still vassal kingdoms to the Oyos. Their manpower were utilized in Oyo's imperial army.

scholes0:
Says who?
You probably call what sango around his waist a "skirt" as well...abi?

Don't mind these fools who don't understand historical context. All this because of the imagination of one foreigner who's basing her conviction on some online article without using context. She doesn't speak Yoruba, know Yoruba history, nor understand the culture and somehow she's a spokesperson and ambassador for the entire Yoruba race.

Many men plait their hair, wear ear rings in today's world. Does that means that they are automatically cross dresser? Was Sango known for wearing women's iro and buba, and waist beads, because if he was a cross dresser, he wouldn't have any problem wearing anything a female wears. By that logic, any men who ties wrapper in Nigeria are cross dressers automatically, which means they wear anything a female wears from make up to gele to high heels. Likewise, any women who wears sokoto is a cross dresser. That's the logic she's using and it doesn't make sense.

Nowenuse:
You did a very great job in this thread. Kudos to you! More pieces like this for you.

It's such a shame that Nigerians are not taught history in school and we do not even know ourselves and origins very well.

Pls I'd like to ask.

1. Do all Akoko people irrespective of their dialects identify as one people? Do they have pan-unity forums?

2. How on earth did the non-edoid and non-yoruboid speakers find themselves in Akoko land in between Edos and yorubas? And they were never absorbed for so many years?

3. Do all the non-yoruboid speakers in Akoko speak yoruba as a lingua franca? If yes, is it specifically Oyo dialect (central yoruba)?

4. Are the non-yoruboid speakers facing language extinction threats in Akoko? Due to the strong influence of yoruba language?

1. Yes, Akoko is an umbrella term. The people are lumped up as a subgroup of Yoruba, but in reality they are a diverse group of people. This is why you often hear Yoruba people say that every town in Akoko speak their own dialect, many of which are often difficult to understand by outsiders or even other towns within Akoko. Because of the proximity, the Akoko people have created a unique cultural blend. Intermarriage is common and the cuisine, kingship, religion, customs, and even languages have blended together through borrowing and exchange of ideas and people. All the towns in Akoko have linked history with stories of trade and migration. An important thing to note is that the Akoko umbrela identity and affiliation with Yoruba existed long before colonial rule and before Yoruba people even started calling themselves Yoruba.

2. Well Akoko settlements are unique in that they are separated by mountains. The rocky terrain provides some degree of cultural isolation. To answer your question, you have to understand the linguistic nature of Akoko settlements. Akoko towns are very old (I can't stress how ancient they are). The old languages of Akoko are very archaic and conservative, changing very little and they offer a glimpse of what proto-Yoruba was like. For example, the Yoruba spoken 1000 years ago would be closer to the Akpe, Ahan, Ayere and Akokoid lagauages. Many elements lost in Yoruba language overtime are preserved in the Akoko languages. In towns with multiple languages, each community have oral tradition pointing to ancient immigration. So in essence, the non-Yoruboid and non-Edoid speaking of Akoko have been there since the very beginning. They are aboriginal to the land, just like the Yoruba and Edoid speakers. All of the Akoko languages including the Yoruboid dialects share a common ancestor, but a degree of isolation have created the differences we see today.

3. Yes, they do. Do they speak Oyo dialect? Well, currently yes, but historically no. Akoko people have always used Yoruba as a lingua franca, but not the Oyo dialect. Prior to the introduction of Oyo dialect as the standard, the people of Akoko use a general Akoko Yoruba dialect (a type of SE Yoruba) as a lingua franca with different variations from town to town to ease trade and communications. This is still true today, but over the past 150 years, the Oyo dialect has gained much influence and popularity.

4. This leads to the next question. Yes, these languages could face extinction. The most critical languages are Ukaan and Ahan languages. But the extinction is true for all Akoko lects including the indigenous Yoruboid ones as well, that are rapidly declining in favor of Oyo variety.

kayfra:
It bothers me deeply seeing my own in bondage having accepted fate befallen them and covering up their shortcomings with a warped sense of religion where an intellectually inferior tribe is their permanent ruler. Easy to excuse your daily hustle as a more pressing concern, but call a spade a spade.

Then do something about it. There is a place in time to be smart and pragmatic and not act on grievance.

Nowenuse:
You are correct, but are you just going to throw away the fulani, hausa and Nupe bloodlines in Ilorin and claim that all Ilorin people are from Oyo? That's not fair now.

Yes Koreans still managed to maintain the same ethnicity cos it was quite obvious that they were divided not too long ago by the selfishness of the western and Russian powers, but pls do not make the mistake to address Austrians as ethnic Germans. This does not go down well with most of them. They reject it outrightly.
Dutch people are also Germanic and infact they speak very similar and intelligible dialects with northern Germans. Yet they rejected German identity.

How about Catalonians, Galicians, Portuguese and Spanish? Or even Bosnians, Croats and Serbs with a common origin who speak exactly the same language but so much dislike each other.

Seems like there is a very thin line between the definition of ethnicity, dialects and nationality.

I think people should just be allowed to identify themselves however they please.

Don't misquote me. Somehow me stating "The Yorubas of Ilorin are Oyo subgroup" somehow means I'm throwing away the minority groups who reside in Ilorin.

Save your speech. If the Ilorin indigenes prefer to be ruled by an emir, that's their business.

Nowenuse:
When did the concept of northern & southern Nigeria come about? Was it not colonialism?

Is Oyo more southerly located than Kogi?

Igalas related with more southern ethnic groups like the Igbos and Edos and share more culture with them more than Oyo people did.

The concept of North vs. South exists in many ethnic groups in precolonial Nigeria. Political boundaries are arbitrary, I know this for a fact. Southern Nigeria is just a qualifier that I based on modern day Nigeria's political boundary. It's as simple as that. You don't have to make it complicated.