₦airaland Forum

Probz:
I’m talking about the resemblance between the last soup you mentioned and owo soup since they’re both made from cotton

I don't think owo soup is made from cotton.

Probz:
Is the last one not owo soup?

Are you talking about owo soup from Edo or the town?

@Probz

Ondo, Ekiti and Ijebu have very colorful cuisines.

Amuyale- This dish is from Ondo and it's grated water yams wrapped and steamed in plantain leaves
Ojojo- Fried grated water yams from Ijebuland. It's commonly eaten for breakfast.
Obe eyen/Obe eyin - Yoruba version of banga soup.
Obe gbanunu- Aromatic soup made from a varierity of herbs like efirin from Ondo.
Obe koowu- This is one the most "bizarre" soup to an average Nigerian. It's made from the seeds of the cotton plant.

scholes0:
Do you know Orunla.... it has a different taste from Okra.
What is the English name?

I know orunla as dried okro.

Probz:
Obe onla. Hmm. That one sounds interesting. What’s that one like?

It's dried okra and it's pounded into a powder that's then cooked. Since it's dried, it can be stored for months without refrigeration. It's a draw soup like your typical okro, but it has a slightly different texture, a very dark green colour and a strong herb flavour.

Probz:
I’ve had their vegetable soups (including Ondo black soup) plus their original take on okro soup. Okwuru’s been there in Igboland since time immemorial but outside the east the one place that springs to mind re. authentic okro soup is Ondo town. Not Delta, not any other mid-western region but Ondo town specifically.

All the variations of efo riro I ascribe to Ekiti. Enlighten me if it belongs to another state.

All the vegetable soups that side of the SW are some of the best in the country. Especially the ogede/plantain-based ones.

I’m not slagging off Yoruba soups for the sake of it. I was talking more about the northwestern Yoruba/Ibadan/Lagos that’s used as the norm to represent mainline Yoruba. Go deeper into the Yoruba hinterland and you’ll see some of the best foods in the country. That I know. Ondo and Ekiti soups are in a different league to the rest.

Yes I’ve had isapa soup. Interestingly those soaps leaves spring from the mallow family so you can combine them with any fiber-fruity hard staple. Has anyone been known to add them to okro soup yet?

Nicely put! Ondo is famous for the marugbo soup, which isn't commonly eaten elsewhere. I like okro, especially when diced. If you like okro, then you might enjoy obe onla, the sister to okro soup. I don't know if you've had it before.

Some vegetables like ugwu and uziza are commonly used in cooking in the West. Ugwu with egusi is the best combo for me.

Actually, I'm not arguing with you. We don't always have to argue. This thread is about food, so let's dialogue.

The ewedu and gbegiri thing is really an optional thing among Yoruba people. I, like many others think it's a very putrid combo, others don't seem to mind it. While I like ewedu and gbegiri seperately, I don't like it combined.

Honestly, efo riro is quite universal, the Ekitis are just known for their efo riro and pounded yam combo. Efo riro is not just one dish. The most common type is efo tete and efo shoko, but there are others like efo amunutu, efo yanrin, efo patako, efo ewuro (bitterleaf), and efo efirin. Efo efirin is very aromatic and it's juice or leaves can be used in a type of regional pepper soup in the west.

I haven't seen okro and isapa combo, but interestingly enough, despite the differences, they both belong to the mallow family.

Probz:
Yoruba people have the best stews for rice hands down. Including olori ofada. I’m talking purely about soups. At least follow the thread.

My point is Yorubas have some quite tasty foods on the whole but they’re not known for nutritious soups save they’re from Ondo state. Mention gizdodo, asun, olori ofada, red ayamase and ikokore all you want. That’s got nothing to do with what I’m saying about soups for swallow a few states excepted.

What soups have you tested from Ondo? Have you tried Isapa? It's most notably common in EKiti.

GodSon34:
Really? So where are they from. I don't claim to know it all..only a fool thinks he knows it all.

How can the two be the same when you have different origins and the Ijebus arrived before the Remo to their presence location. Remo people are sworn Ife descendants unlike the Ijebu with mysterious origin according to fables told by people like you. Certain Ijebus say they hail from Wadai in Sudan or Nubia or jebusites in Isreal. Which one is it?

GodSon34:
I’m not Yoruba. I’m Ijebu. There is a difference abeg.

And Remo people are not Ijebu.

GodSon34:
The thread is about the origin of so-called Yoruba people. And the claims about Ile Ife Being the origin championed by Ooni of Ife. And how Osun and Ife is supposedly the spiritual capital of Yoruba. Feel free to read my other posts about Ijebu. I am not going to argue with you if you do not know or want to know about the true history of Ijebu land.

So you can't answer my question. I'll ask again. What are the towns in Osun state that used to be under Ijebu? I've read your nonsensical false statements.

GodSon34:
Both maps show Oshun river in Jebu land o. States are a new concept. That region had countries. Ijebu was a country. The point is Oyo, Benin, Ijebu, Egba and Ketu existed in the past. The point also is Osun today was carved out of Ijebu land because Oyo took the land during the wars. The British supported Allafin to conquer other regions and labelled it all Yoruba.

So, in your deluded mind, all of what is today Osun state is Ijebu land. Lol, I hope you are kidding. Give me the names of towns in Osun state that were Ijebu.

GodSon34:
Where is Osun or Ile Ife? Doesn’t it strike you as strange that it is deemed spiritual capital of Yoruba when in fact it cannot be found on old maps? Yet the Ooni of Ife will be running around like pepeye, visiting the Uk. That one nah slave to the British.

The British have taken control of the traditional ruler ship structure in Yoruba land. Ooni is a puppet!

See this is why you fail, and lack simple logic. First of all that map didn't depict all of Yorubaland or Nigeria. Where's Ekiti, Akoko, or Igbomina. Plus maps are only supposed to highlight some important landmarks not every city or tribe is going to be highlighted. First hand accounts about a people are a way better primary source. Europeans didn't have the best cartography skills until modern times and the development of the satellite and computer technology. Osun is not a subgroup of Yoruba, but an administrative division derived from the Osun river, which is shown in the maps. It's the same way Ogun is not a subgroup of Yoruba, but a mere political division. This is just common sense that i shouldn't be explaining. Didn't you learn basic geography?



Also one of your map shows the city state of Ile-Ife. Smh. You have zero case

GodSon34:
This one nko? This is an 1892 map.

It shows Ijebu being bordered by Ibadan to the North. This is still true today. Ijebu is bounded by Ibadan to the North.

DREAMZZZ:
China germany us ....are building cars that would soon start flying and see what this morons in Africa are more concerned about? No wonder africa remain the most backward continent in the world

Yes, I understand your concerns. While I somewhat agree with you, development is not an excuse to erase your culture. That same China you mentioned has a number of celebrations like the most celebrated holiday in China, the Chinese new year where they put on masquerade dances and performances. At the same time, China is progressing forward as a modern nation. Culture, without a doubt has a place in the modern world.

The reason why Africa is the most backward continent is because Africans often elect selfish corrupt people in office, are unwilling to stand up or think critically about the future, leaving their problems in the hands of God (the same God who gave them free will and the brain capacity to make a change).

stanluiz:
See brown roofs everywhere.
Brown roof republic.

When these houses were being constructed, most Nigerians were living in thatched huts. I'm more worried about the bigger picture which is urban decay, lack of renovation, proper infrastructure, and mismanagement which all represent the face of Nigeria. Roofs of ancient houses in some parts of Europe are made from mud terracotta bricks. Guess what? They are brown, but juxtaposed with paved streets, organized layout, necessary urban infrastructure, and greenery.

fallout87:
These stupid traditions need to be vacated.

I cringe when I see them.

Yes, African cultures need to be eradicated. Better we stop practicing our traditions, stop speaking our native languages, and adopt the Oyinbo way of life.

Better than selling cocaine

GodSon34:
You cannot deny the fact that Osun state Is new. It was created out of old Oyo and Oyo stole the land from Ijebu. I’m sorry but the map proves this. I didn’t create the map. Go and ask your colonial masters that did.

Osun state is a merger of Oyo, Ibolo, Ijesha, Ife, Igbomina, and Owu peoples. Ijebus are not native to Osun or Oyo. You are a deluded brainwashed individual who's suffering from inferiority complex. You better retrace the steps of your forefathers, maybe it'll help you know your history. You can be religious, but that's not a reason to concoct stories after thing air to feel egocentric. FYI, those map proves nothing about your lies. What those maps prove is that the Portuguese and other Europeans had a contact with a coastal people they know as "Jabu" centuries ago.

Jerrypolo:
This statement is highly laughable!!!.
Confirms my earlier exertion that you haven't been to Rivers state once.
I can authoritatively widen that to the entire Niger Delta!!!.

Enjoy your day!!!
Lol!!!!!

I guess the crimes that I listed aren't in your state.


I'll enjoy my day.

Ekinematics:
What you listed is the problem of Nigeria not peculiar to Rivers State alone or Oil producing states.
Your comment make it seem like it's a thing of oil producing states. Read your write up well, understand what you wrote before posting.


We are celebrating the positive changes happening in Rivers State so you can take your ignorant comments elsewhere. Period!

If you read what I said earlier, you would see that I said every parts of Nigeria has its own problems. I was pointing out the hypocrisy in meaningless competition. There is no relevance if someone has their own share of problems, but are quick to jump and say someone else has more problems to feel better. The point is they both have problems and it's stupid to be comparing.

You can celebrate achievements without meaningless bragging.

Ekinematics:
Next time if you don't like a thread just pass. It's not by force to comment if people decides to praise their governor.
I've seen several threads about what Ambode, Obiano, Udom and several governors are doing in their respective states. You don't see any Rivers man come here to derail the thread with rubbish talk.
Allow us to celebrate our own.

"Allow us to celebrate our own." This is too funny. Am I holding you at gunpoint telling you not to celebrate your beloved governor? It's the same way I can speak my mind because this is a public forum after all, where dialogues are meant to occur. You were the one who quoted me at first, not the other way around. You are free to celebrate mediocrity as I am free to renounce it. I speak my truth, I can't speak for all nor do I expect the entire world to agree with me. You are free to disagree with me, but you do not have any right to silence me.

Ekinematics:
See how ignorantly biased you are. "Like most all oil producing states"
I believe your beloved Lagos or whatever shit hole you are from is without those things you listed.

I know if asked where you're from you'll even be ashamed of saying it, but claim Lagos(which is the most dangerous state in Nigeria anyways)

So, that's the only thing you were able to take from my entire post. All of a sudden, I'm "claiming Lagos." Nigerians are simply blinded to their problems. They like to deny the truth and compete over stupid things like flyovers, while getting distracted from the real issues. This is why the nation can't progress forward.

Isn't Lagos an oil producing state? Every part of Nigeria has its fair share of problems, I'm not denying that. So are you telling me that the crimes that I listed aren't part of reality and I just made them up.

Jerrypolo:
Every Yoruba man wants to claim Lagos.
Are you from Lagos?.
What has your governor (I mean your real state. Probably Oyo) done in terms of infrastructure in your state that can be compared to what Wike is doing in Rivers?.

I don't want to sound ethnic but in terms of security, Rivers is better than your state a thousand times. With the amount of money, people and activities that go on in Rivers on a daily, it would have been a daily "Bank kinda robbery" something.

Sho get?.

If there are supposedly 40 million Yorubas in Nigeria; and Lagos state has an estimate population of well over 20 million, majority of whom are Yoruba; it's not inconceivable that a large percentage of Yorubas are Lagosians by default.

Rivers is an oil producing state and like most oil producing states in Nigeria, they are filled crime including theft, money laundering, kidnapping for ransom, insurgency, corruption, and organized crime.

Nigerians love to celebrate mediocrity as an accomplishment. Oh, my governor builds a new road, that makes my state better than you, look at all the good my government is doing for the people. Meanwhile, the common people are still suffering, because those at the top are holding on to the wealth while leaving crumbs, I mean "new flyovers" for the common people.

Hati13:
Olu317,

Some scholars are suggesting that Semitic originated in Ethiopia. If all scholars accept this in the future, will you still continue to believe that Yoruba or pre-Yoruba came from Middle East?

Stop entertaining him. He's delusional! The person who wrote this thread claimed that he himself is not a historian and as you can see the fake myth is debunked by other Yorubas.

This is quite funny. Let me speak for Nigerians when I say the entire nation hates your father.

Interesting! Be proud of your ethnic group!
Nupes and Yorubas have always had a history that goes back centuries, especially with the Kyedye, Gbedegi, and Eghagi.

eleojo23:
It seems soldiers are the new terrorists

This isn't new. This has been going on since the foundation of Nigeria. Nigerian soldiers have always used fear and intimidation in the name of "respect" to terrorize civilians.

His job was threatened, so he had to apologize to save his career. I doubt if he's truly sincere. He even said he was joking. So hate speech is a form of joke? It's hard to change a bigot's view.

Nigerians kill anything that moves.

Timbuktuo:
Wherever your area is, it's obviously not the SW. You could be Benin or Calabar, no one gives a Bleep. As far as you're not Yoruba, you're from that area.

He is Urhobo.

panafrican:
Did you Haussa, Igbo, Yoruba are parts of the kwa languages?
Niger means. The Good water .
Ni or " nee" means water.
"ger" means good , bringsing good fate.

Hausa is a Chadic language of the Afro-Asiatic family. Yoruba and Igbo are Volta-Niger languages. The word Niger may likely have come from Tuareg. Niger in Hausa is kwara; in Yoruba it's oya; and in Igbo, it's orimili. You need to do more research, and stop falling for pseudo online theories concocted by people who don't understand the history and cultures of the continent.

panafrican:
Are you from Mali, Senegal, Liberia, Cote d' Ivoire, Sierra Leone, Ghana, Niger, Togo, Benin, Nigeria, etc?
Well, you are most likely a Kwa.
Read this , you will find the meanings of many words
http://www.africanstar.org/special-feature-who-are-the-krahns-andare-they-linked-to-the-igbos-ashanti-akans-and-yorubas-in-west-africa/

Kwa languages are mostly found in Ghana and Ivory Coast. Most Nigerians speak a Volta-Niger or a Chadic language.