₦airaland Forum

Ibrahimmrfish:
Igbo.

That's from Akan of Ghana and Ivory Coast.

Ibrahimmrfish:
Yoruba

That's from the Bamum tribe from Cameroon.

Ibrahimmrfish:
Igbo

That's from the South Africa, most likely Zulu or Swazi.

Shariah law has no place in a modern secular country. Imagine if Sango or Sopana law is implemented in Nigeria? This is why no religion should get special treatment. It's either all or nothing.
There is rampant poverty, child marriage, terrorism and illiteracy in the North, but the priority is blasphemy? If you believe God is powerful, let him"deal" with the "blasphemous" people himself unless you think he's weak. You that are enacting your judgement, are you free of sin? Hypocrisy!

How about they fix the smelly open gutters in Lagos first before banning cart pushers. Then maybe we'll take them seriously.

Ishilove:
Shame. So a neckpain is what cannot be treated in Nigeria. They have to use taxpayers money to fly overseas to treat ear and neckpain. This is so disgraceful.

Nigerian hospitals are for the peasants only.

Hintona:
please this should be moved to fp, Lalasticlala, thanks.

We should all know how precolonial Nigerians dressed before Nollywood will brainwash us.

That's certainly not how Yoruba or Hausa or many other tribes dressed, not that there is anything wrong with how precolonial Igbos dressed.

desiredhome:
Jonathan lost because he was not competent and people were already complaining despite the money that was in system then, just the same way you are complaining for Buhari now......we also complain of Obasanjo etc

For the bold, who do you think would've been a better choice?

The reason we will keep complaining is because we cannot control our selfishness/greed .....

When we contest for an election because of what we can give/contribute to the system and not what we can get/gain then we won't have reasons to be blaming others/complain again, afterall we are all the same......

Which shows that PDP and APC are one and the same. Do you see the mass defection of politicians from PDP to APC around the time Buhari was elected? They have no integrity and only choose the side that ensures them power. I wish people can see that instead of fighting themselves. The bigger picture is that both PDP and APC are busy siphoning the wealth and opportunity of the country while the masses are brainwashed and fighting themselves for scrap. Both parties along with their criminals belong in the waste bin.

RTSC:
Nigeria is a poor country.

Nigeria Cannot pay you as much as the UK.

If you don't know this, it is sad.

Nigeria is a poor country that cannot afford to pay its doctors yet Nigerian lawmakers are some of the most well paid in the entire world. They are even more well-paid than UK lawmakers.

Snap out that delusion. Nigerians need to wise up.

Razzness:
Let me give u an example with my self, i have a fulani grandfather and a mixed grandmother(mothers side) and a hausa grandfather and a fulani grandmother(fathers side).In essence while i am hausa,i still have fulani ancestors and this is true for 90% of northerners(dangote and buhari too),it is this level blood ties that has kept n will continue to keep the hausa-fulani as a single entity.

Ancestry is not the same as ethnicity. Partial ancestry is common in Nigeria. There are Yorubas of partial Nupe or Fulani ancestry, but Yoruba-Fulani is not a recognized ethnicity. There are Ijaws who have Edo ancestry, but Ijaw-Edo is not an ethnicity. Yola is Fulani and Kano is Hausa. As long as Hausa-Fulani entity remains, Hausas will never realize their political subjugation and Fulanis will continue to lose their culture.

Razzness:
Omo u can lie o.
What u don't know is that hausa and fulani are flesh and blood, u can hardly get 5% of hausa people who do not have any family ties with fulani and likewise fulani, there are lots of fulani who have lost all their roots to fulani likewise hausa, thats why it's called hausa-fulani. In essence if all u say about fulani hating or oppressing hausa is true, then it's just like a snake stricking himself with his poison, at the end of the day he will only end up harming himself.

Let me dilute that toxic Arewa propaganda.

1. Hausas live under the political subjugation of minority Fulanis and Fulanis live under cultural subjugation of Hausa, although the first is worse. Fulanis (not Hausa) are the ones loosing their culture, hence why many of them no longer speak Fulfulde.

2. Hausa-Fulani is an imaginary ethnic group and a political group unique to Nigeria. Niger republic has both ethnic groups, but nothing like Hausa-Fulani.

3. Fulanis know themselves and Hausas know themselves. Dangote is Hausa, not Fulani and Buhari is Fulani, not Hausa.

Nigerian politicians love to go to Europe, maybe this will turn their head in the right direction (probably not). And for people thinking that Nigeria is unfairly targeted, USA is also banned. Nigeria has not stabilized its recorded cases which is still climbing day by day.

Christistruth00:
Yoruba is the most popular language in Lokoja the area dominated by Igala is on the opposite bank of River Niger. Igbirra and Yoruba have lived side by side peacefully for 300 years they even fought the Fulani in cooperating with the Yoruba.

Have you been to Lokoja before?

BigBashiru:
- Having English as official language is a sign of mental submission to the white man and this should be changed immediately - with increasing confidence by the black man comes more power on the global scene.

- Another alternative: "Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa" as official languages and English as secondary language.

Black man - take responsibility for your lives and your countries!

Yes but it represents the majority. English people are not the only people in the United Kingdom - there is also Welsh language but they adopted just English.

I agree with your sentiments but I don't think Nigeria should not have an "official" language at least at the federal level. This idea is not radical as there are many countries with no official languages including the US. It only makes sense because of dissatisfaction by its various 500+ ethnolinguistics and minority fear of domination by the majority groups. The traditional languages would still have recognition at a regional level. English would still play a role due to its international status, but it won't get an "official status."

Apparently this president rigged elections and tried to change the constitution to allow him longer term in office. He was president for 15 years and never thought of building a single hospital he could be treated at without being flown abroad. One ventilator for a whole country? This should be a lesson for other African presidents. You will eventually reap what you sow!

Why are we glorifying baby mama culture in Nigeria? Imported rubbish from America

Sammy07:
Lol.
Remo are Ijebu people.
It's called.

"ijebu Remo"

Awolowo / osinbanjo are from ikenne, ikenne is under Remo, and Awolowo / osinbanjo are ijebu.

So how come they ain't ijebu?

Have you ever wondered why Ijebu Remo has a qualifier but Ijebu is a standalone that doesn't? Why does it matter that Remo people want to claim a separate identity when at the end of the day both are still Yorubas. To say Ijebu and Remo are exactly the same is to ignore the fundamental distinction between both groups.

Both have distinct oral history and it should be respected. Remo people have always been concise and consistent about their later migration, Ife origins and establishment of the 33 founding towns. I think the division is made worse as you have Ijebus claiming to originate from Sudan, Waddai or what have you. People from Remo simply don't entertain such tales by moonlight and are more in tune to their Yoruba identity.

I link the whole Ijebu/Remo saga to how some people erroneously class every Yoruba in Oyo state as Oyo because of political division and Oyo empire or how modern Yewa identity equates being Egbado (it doesn't). Education about our forefather's history is lacking greatly in Nigeria.

wizod:
I am team jungle justice. I'm in love with it. Kudos to my guys dat burnt these criminals. Had it been i was there, i would've given them two important items/tools for dis assignment and that is matches and fuel.
You will hate dis only if u've not seen or being a victim of armed robbery

You feel embolden to take a life you did not create. You are a menace to society! Attitudes like this is why this country will never progress.

Acts like this is why Nigeria will remain a third world country. Politicians are a mere reflection of the people. Wickedness exists from top to bottom.

bigfrancis21:
Aja peoples = Fon, Ewe, Ga-Adangbe etc.

Fon population = 4-5m
Ewe population = 6.7m
Ga population = 2m

Total of these 3 groups alone = 12.7m to 13.7m.

Where did you pull 0.5m from??

I know the ethnic make-up of Nigeria, Benin, and Togo like the back of my mind and I know where Yorubaland begins and end.

Aja people (in singular) is a standalone ethnic group in Southwestern Benin (Kouffo department) and some communities across the border in Togo. If you go back and reread my post and look at the map I provided, then you would realize that the author specifically used Aja peoples (in plural) to refer to the numerous groups of people after one of the prominent member tribe, the Aja.

It's like if I wrote "Yoruba peoples" to lump Ebira, Igala, Yoruba, Edo and Bariba people together or using "Igbo peoples" to lump Cross-river, Igbo. Ijaw and other ethnic groups together. It shouldn't be hard for you to understand. But I see you have conceded with the post that your source is grouping numerous groups together for the inflated figure you gave earlier. That's all I wanted.

forgiveness:
How did you arrive at 1.6m people for Aja people out of the 2.1m people? I will like to know where you got that figure from?

I know you have been lying but today, I don catch you.

Check out my previous post. I've already debunked his post. It doesn't make sense since Aja people today are about 500,000 which doesn't support the idea of 1.6 million of them being enslaved between 1600s-1800s. The source he quoted was referring to Aja PEOPLES comprising of 30+ ethnic groups including Fon and Ewe located West of the Yorubaland. So it's 30+ ethnic groups vs. the entire Yoruba population.

bigfrancis21:
Angola and Congo = West Central = almost 4m exports combined.

Bight of Benin = 2.1m exports, Aja people (majority) 1.6m, Yoruba 0.45m.

Bight of Biafra = 1.46m exports, Igbo 1.2m, Ibibio/Efik/Ijaw = 0.25m.

Once again I furnish extra data for you if you are unable to source them by yourself.

bigfrancis21:
Unarguably, no facts exist to prove this.

1.2m vs 0.437m, at least 2.5 as much.

1. I argued that Yoruba were the most influential African ethnicity in Brazil and my stance has not changed. I never mentioned the entire Americas, don't misrepresent my argument.

2. I retraced your source and I realized your statistics are misleading. The bight of Benin stretches all the way from the Volta river in Ghana and ends at the Niger delta encompassing Yoruba, Fon, Gun, Ewe, Gen, Aja, Mina and dozens more. There are obviously more groups that were enslaved and not mentioned apart from Aja, Nupe, Voltaic, Yoruba and Bariba. Even stranger, the table does not include the Fon, one of the most enslaved group in the Bight of Benin. So I began to doubt your source until I stumbled upon the first map and these statements from the book which shows the "Aja peoples" in plural as just a catchall for all ethnic groups in the bight west of Yorubas. It includes Aja as well as many related ethnic groups like Fon, Ewe and other coastal ethnic groups in Benin and Togo. You can clearly even see Dahomey which was Fon listed under the Aja umbrella.

3. Therefore the correct assessment from your source is: Aja + Ewe + Fon + Mina + Gen + Xwla + dozens more ethnic groups = 2.1 million; Yoruba as standalone = 0.45 million.

pazienza:
Lol!

Whatever floats your boat.

Yorubas are only found in Benin republic.

Except the bolded isn't true as all the indigenous Yorubas in Togo can also be found in Benin. Kambole people and Anas reside accross the border in Benin Republic as well.
Nicolas Grunitzky, the second president of Togo is Yoruba from Atakpame from his mother's side. Likewise the first president of Togo, Sylvanus Olympio is an aguda, descendant of Yoruba slaves from Brazil.

There are also Yoruba migrants from Nigeria. They are well represented in the upper class of Togo.

bigfrancis21:
Slaves from Congo and Angola far outnumber Yoruba slaves any day anytime. If you say otherwise, furnish evidence to prove this.

I understand you're being jaded. What you're just discovering doesn't align with the misinformation you've been made to believe all your life.

Angola and Congo are not ethnic groups but nations with many ethnic groups. It's two whole countries vs. one single ethnic group. Arguably, Yoruba is the largest African ancestry by ethnicity and most influential African culture in Brazil.

Nowenuse:
Actually, I am aware of this, however, there are still some Igala communities that wrongly fell under Bassa LGA. I have forgotten their names.
Same boundary misadjustment left some Igala towns in Benue state (Apa LGA) and some Idoma towns in Kogi state (Omala LGA).

That's bound to happen, but Igalas in Bassa would be very small.

Yes, Igalas are not more than 40% of Kogi population.

Lol, Igalas are the owners of Ajaokuta town (the LG headquarters). The town is just on the banks of the River Niger, though on the Western side. Many Ebira villages were merged with Ajaokuta town to give Ajaokuta LGA and that is why Ebiras are the majority in the LGA.

You forget that the Igalas have always been a people of the Niger, the Niger has never limited their settlements to the Wast. They used the Niger to trade with their Edo, Yoruba and Igbo neighbors and that is why there are so many other Igala speaking towns across the Niger, like Ilushi & Ifeku island in Edo state, Ebu, Nzam, Olumbanasa e.t.c in Delta and Anambra states.

Ajaokuta is not the only Igala town on the other side of the Niger.

ok.

I agree that Oworos are the largest group in Lokoja LGA, but they are like 40-45% of the population of the LGA in my opinion and I don't know if they occupy 70% of the rural areas outside the city, it may not be up to that.

Anyway, here is a link of all the communities in Lokoja LGA below.

https://nigeriazipcodes.com/4442/list-of-towns-and-villages-in-lokoja-lga/

Lokoja LGA has 4 districts, Lokoja rural, Oworo, Kakanda & Kupa.

It seems like you forget that there are dozens of villages along the Niger river up till you enter Niger state and the northern parts of Lokoja LGA, and all these villages fall under Lokoja LGA and belong to Nupe speaking Kakandas & Kupas.

Go through the link above and you will see that the number of villages in Kakanda & Kupa districts outnumber those of Oworo district in a 55:45 manner. Besides, many villages under Oworo district are now part of Lokoja urban.

Kogi state in my opinion is 40% Igala, 25% Ebira tao, 20% Okun, then the remaining 15% goes to Ebira Koto, Ebira Mozum, Bassas, Gbagyis, Kakandas, Kupas and Ogori-Magongos.

I agree with the breakdown of the state, but I will have to disagree with your breakdown of Lokoja LGA. That list doesn't explain everything, it only lists the number of communities in each area. The Kakandas are around equal in population if not more than the Kupa, but they have less than half of the number of villages listed for Kupa. Number of communities does not give you much insight on population density or geographic area. Population density multiplied by land area gives you total population. Oworoland has a relatively higher population density and by far the largest land area outside of Lokoa metropolitan. Not to mention the largest town in the LGA outside of Lokoja metropolitan is Obajana in Oworo.

Sammy07:
Afriifa, here's an Ilaje man.
He'll tell you the pure truth

Tunde835, Pls, as an Ilaje man.
What do you think of the Ijaws living in Ondo.
Are some of them Yorubanized or not

Don't mind Afriifa. There is plenty of Ijawnization ongoing right now in the Niger Delta. So obvious Edoid speaking people of Epie and Atissa as well as Cross river speaking Obolo people can be Ijawnized but Western Apois in Ondo cannot be Yorubanized? Sowore is an Apoi man from Kiribo in Ese Ondo and he is a Yoruba citizen.

Nowenuse:
You are just feeding Kyase with half truths.

There are Igala Indigenes in Bassa & Ajaokuta LGAs or don't u know?

Ebira kotos are the largest group in Lokoja & Kotonkarfe (Kogi) LGAs combined.
There are also Ebiras in Bassa LGA called Ebira Mozum.

Actually Bassa LGA was carved out for the minorities in Kogi East. You can divide it into three parts. The Western third bordering the confluence centered around Gboloko is inhabitted by the Bassa Nge. The central portion centered around Oguma is inhabited by the Bassa Komu, they are the largest by poulation in the LGA. The Eastern third centered around the town of Mozum is inhabited by the Ebira Mozum.

Actually his rough estimates are more accurate. Kogi East without Bassa LGA gives the Igala around 40-41%. I don't believe Igalas are native to Ajaokuta and if they are found there, their population would be negligable.

Oworos are the largest group in Lokoja as they occupy parts of Lokoja city and 70% of the LGA outside of the city.

CC senatordave1

post=89805546:
Main reason Mid-west asked for referendum to be separated from Western region, they also used their common wealth in developing western states most expecially Ibadan in the 60s, During this period newspaper articles written by AG loyalists appeared in which various ethnic groups of the proposed Midwest were warned of “Benin domination.” In the smear campaign, designed to derail Midwest unity, rumors were spread about how certain posts were going to be dominated by “Benin.”

Your post has zero substance.

So ethnic minorities got 30% of the ministerial positions of the old western region when they didn't even represent up to 30% of the population? Isn't that essentially overrepresentation? What a pathetic attempt to show that Yorubas are tribalist!

It was only logical that the midwestern region was created because it gave them 100% control of their own affairs rather than share a government with the larger Yoruba entity. It's the same way the Old Eastern region was carved into East central for Igbos and Rivers and Cross river for minority groups.

OFFICIAL336:
Apapa is 50 nautical miles to the Atlantic.

How can you say Apapa is 50 nautical miles to the Atlantic when the distance between Onitsha and Owerri is less than 50 nautical miles? Does that make a sense at all? By that calculation the whole of Lagos state would span the length of entire SE.

Like I told you, Apapa wharf to the Atlantic is less than 3 nautical miles.

OFFICIAL336:
Yoruba Moslem, Apapa sea port is 50 nautical miles to the Atlantic while Azumili is less than 25 nautical miles.

Heavy dredging was done before Apapa could become functional

Lies!
Apapa wharf is less than 3 nautical miles from the ocean. Ports are preferably built on natural harbors that are easily accessible to the ocean. Lagos lagoon like Ebrie lagoon in Abidjan are arguably the best natural harbors in West Africa.

Igboid:
They are not between Edo and Igbos.
They are completely surrounded by Igbos (Enuani).
If you meet any Odiani person outside Delta and ask him or her where she/he is from, they would probably tell you Issele-uku. Because its the biggest community in the area and most popular too. It hosts NYSC orientation camp of Delta state.

They are not completely surrounded by Igbo. They are bordered to the North by Esan.

Sunshineg5:
True

I see it from their map

That map is a bit distorted. The town of Ezi is South of Uburubu. The Olukumi towns of Uburubu and Anioma town borders the Esan town of Emu Nehua in Edo State. Anioma town is the Northernmost town in Delta state.

Nowenuse:
Igalas and Okuns (Kogi west) shared boundary until the Ebiras came from Kwararafa and put them asunder.

Look at the map of Kogi state below. There are Igalas in Ajaokuta & Bassa LGAs and there are Yorubas (Oworo) in Lokoja LGA. Tell me how far these places are from each other if not a stonethrow.

If not for Kwararafan colonization, Igalas (Okpoto people) would have been part of the Yoruba nation just like Okun.

Cc 9jakool forgiveness

Here is my take on this
1.) It's true there is an obvious linguistic and cultural link between the Igalas and Yoruba, I will admit that. However, Igala won't have been Yoruba even without the supposed kwararafan colonization you are referring to. The Niger river clearly demarcates Okun from Igala.

2.) The extent of Kwararafa migration is overexagerated by middle belt groups. So, Kogi Central was uninhabited when the Ebira came. I'm I supposed to belief that somehow the Ebira didn't keep traces of their Jukun language, but suddenly adopted a new tongue?

3.) My hypothesis is that the Ebira many groups molded their oral history after Kwararafa formation due to the prestige it serves. Ebira are more likely to be related to Nupe that anything Jukun, but that's their oral history and not my concern.

4.) Whatever the case may be, Igalas and Yoruba are separate ethnic groups and the rest is history.

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