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PoliticsRe: Projects: Despite Disappointment, Ambode Determined To Finish Strong by 9jaRealist: 1:04pm On Apr 16, 2019
TimmyTen:
He listened to Nigerians with tankers and articulated vehicles causing gridlock, stress of commuting even deaths. He has failed
Did that start under Ambode? Didn't Fashola face the same problem?

But let's get this straight, so you are blaming Lagos Governors for the poor operations of the federal government's ports or the poor state and inadequacies of the federal government's roads around the ports or for failure of the federal government to build/fix the Nigerian Raailway Corporation's rail lines to the ports for ease evacuation of cargo?

Anyway, I do not necessarily blame you because the Lagos State government has previously used the funds of Lagos taxpayers to rebuild/reconstruct the federal government's dilapidated Badagry Expressway and Airport to Oshodi Expressway.
PoliticsRe: Projects: Despite Disappointment, Ambode Determined To Finish Strong by 9jaRealist: 12:54pm On Apr 16, 2019
datola:
Useless projects everywhere.

The irom casting called Oshodi interchange is not necessary as filling all the.potholes on virtually all Lagos roads.

The bus stop contructions at TBS, Oyinbo, Yaba, Ikeja, etc have not solved any problem rather, created haven for destitute persons to live

How can you solve transport problem by abandoning rail project by Fashola to importing small buses in a mega city

He scored poorly in waste management with his importation of a visionless Dubai company to pack waste instead of the former system that was working.

You don't change a winning team to prove you have a big head.

Major Ambide's achievement is some roads, lay-bys and fly over construction and restriction of the activities of Road safety and VIO on Lagos raids

The man is local and mediocre in thinking.
While mass rail transit is optimal for megacities, every single megacity still retains an extensive bus system.
A rail system is like a broadband cable infrastructure, you will still need "last-mile" infrastructure and with mass transit that's usual buses.

Furthermore, a mass transit rail system is often an expensive, extensive and complex infrastructural project, and even moreso when undertaken in a living working city (rather than in the suburbs or in a new city development), which can often run into delays. Accordingly, while working on it the government can (and should) continually improve other available forms of mass public transportation.

PS: BTW, there was absolutely NOTHING conceptually (or otherwise) wrong with the Cleaner Lagos Initiative anchored around Visionscape. The notion that a continuously growing megapolis like Lagos would continue to be adequately served by PSPs that own a couple of (often second-hand or broken) trash compactors, without adequate sorting and/or sorting capacity or facilities is a fool's paradise.
TravelRe: The Oshodi Transport Interchange That Buhari Will Commission In Lagos (Pictures by 9jaRealist: 2:52am On Apr 16, 2019
Sagay212:
It is waste of money. You Nigerians should begin to use your brain. Your roads are extremely terrible, education in lagos is messed up, health care is crap and a useless governor is building useless terminals just to show off.
Perfection should never be the enemy of better.

The reality is that the Oshodi Interchange project is an existential improvement on what existed there - and I deliberately employ the term "existential" because it is not merely a physical improvement and regeneration (which in itself is massive) but a social and economic regeneration. The Interchange project not only helps to elevate the quality and standards of public infrastructure in Nigeria, but it completely re-envisions and restructures the very nature and practice of mass transportation in our corner of the world, while eliminating (or at least substantially minimizing) the criminal elements that ran roughshod over that area. In addition, the Bus Reform Initiative of which these terminals are part and parcel of should upgrade mass public transportation in Lagos, and facilitate business development and job creation.

Meanwhile, it is patently unfair (if not dishonest) to impute that these terminals is all that Mr. Ambode has been doing in Lagos. Apart from the 450 inner roads built/rebuilt across all 57 LCDAs in the state, the Code Lagos program is presently training up to a million coders in Lagos in partnership with global companies like Microsoft, SAP and Oracle. The Ready-Set-Work program works with the biggest public companies and other private businesses to provide internships to Lagos undergraduates with a view towards potential future employment or preparation for the modern workplace or entrepreneurship training and mentorship. The Lagos Employment Trust Fund (LSTEF) offers grants and single-digit low interest loans to entrepreneurs resident in Lagos (regardless of the so-called State of Origin). Lagos presently provides FREE education for about 1.6 million students in public schools, and teachers are constantly be trained and retrained in Lagos (there's also a car loan program for principals, headmasters and some senior teachers), schools are constantly being renovated/upgraded while new model schools are being built in each of the state's 5 divisions. Mr. Ambode has deepened the Lagos State Security Trust Fund and even increased the police's active duty death benefits under the scheme from N1 million to N5 million (and frankly these things should be the responsibility of the federal government that controls the police force). He has set up one of the best equipped and capable emergency response units in Africa, and has computerised vehicle inspections, licensing, the land registry, etc. Furthermore, Lagos continues to upgrade its primary healthcare centers and general hospitals (where certain categories of patients receive substantially free treatment), and has instituted a state-run health insurance scheme.

I realize that many Nigerians tend to have a "commissioning" mindset towards government and governance (to wit, if nothing is being "commissioned" nothing is being done), but the truth is that Mr. Ambode (and Mr. Fashola before him) has done a relatively excellent job of governing and upgrading what is probably Africa's most difficult and complex cities to govern.
TravelRe: The Oshodi Transport Interchange That Buhari Will Commission In Lagos (Pictures by 9jaRealist: 2:07am On Apr 16, 2019
Bluntemperor:
God bless Ambode and the children of hate would still criticize him on such a project by reminding us that light rail is more important.first,the light rail is majorly a World Bank Project,funded by them,same with Ikorodu World Bank Road project during Fashola era people should get history right.
Secondly It could be that not much political push was placed on the light rail completion from Mile-2 towards Marina but my personal observation revealed that works never ceased as the triangular connection between Carter-Bridge Rail movement,Underwater Crude Oil by-pass with Heavy Engineering Works involved highly experienced Experts with Marine Engineers working day and night.Go there now and see the great work being done over the sea by the Chinese Construction Company linking the bridge to Marina.This has been going on for the past 2and half years.!This is the most delicate and technical aspects of the job,yet some people who don't understand what technicalities are spewing rubbish.Is it a must that a Governor must fight the elders of the party before you can appreciate his works.i was at Oshodi last week and I went down where Planet Engineers are working was very amazed.may be in years to come we appreciate Ambode's vision then.
Speaking of the Marina Light Rail Bridge, the red patches in the following diagram represent shipwrecks, discarded mooring dolphins, and various other underwater obstructions discovered during construction. The amount of piling works required on that phase is massive.

https://i.imgur.com/zR30GxG.jpg
CelebritiesRe: Tiwa Savage Dances Wearing Bra by 9jaRealist: 1:47am On Apr 16, 2019
tolanibae:
Common, being a woman doesn’t mean i should support manipulation. There are no perfect family anywhere under the sun. The man was clearly going through some crisis, he needed help. It was the likes of banky and one of the p squares that was there for the poor guy when he almost lost it all while tiwa was crying all over the internet busy saving her supposedly tarnished hoe-ish image.

My guy used to have some substance addictions issue, i helped him through it, i didnt abandon him so i know what it feels like. We are doing good now and we are stronger because we have gone through a lot together.

If i was in tiwa’s shoe, i would have done all i can to get my family in order, teebillz would have apologized publicly for saying tiwa sleeps around, blamed all he said on the depression he was going through. But no, tiwa sacrificed her whole family to prove to the world that she wasn’t a hoe which she eventually proved otherwise to the world. Over time, Teebillz has undergone rehab and seemingly doing fine, Tiwa has dragged her reputation as a mother many times with her dressing and choice of lifestyle (even with a rumor of dating somebody that calls her husband uncle).

Different strokes for different folks but the bottom line is that no one is perfect, if you will throw someone under the bus for something that people will eventually know to be true, it shouldn’t be the father of your only child, it shouldn’t be the person that saw something in you when no one did, it shouldn’t be someone that needed help. I don’t support the use of drugs but family should always come first.
Isn't that the point though? That it's the person wearing a shoe that know where it pinches?! undecided

Good luck with your life. I frankly wish you all the best, but hopefully you are intelligent enough to realize that just because you helped your dude through an addiction problem does not mean that your relationship is going to last forever (or even for a long time) or that he will not step out on you. Meanwhile, you are busy sounding sanctimonious and summarily passing judgment and slut-shaming another woman based on substantive superficialties like her "dressing" and so-called "choice of lifestyle" (including what even you admit to be a RUMOR that she is dating an ADULT male). Funny how a woman can appear to be properly raising her kid single-handedly (apparently without financial or physical support from the child's father), while maintaining and even building a career but for some basic Nigerians it amounts to less than suffering in what must obviously had been a bad marriage with an apparently psychologically-troubled man. After all, it's the duty of women to fix men!
CelebritiesRe: Tiwa Savage Dances Wearing Bra by 9jaRealist: 1:25am On Apr 16, 2019
sexybaby22:
You say 'she ruined her family' when it was her husband that started the whole drama and the interview was the only way she felt she could defend herself. Tiwa that was the breadwinner and covering up for his lapses till he lost it. You are a woman and you should have empathy for your fellow women after all we all know what a lot of women go through in their marriages.
tolanibae merely epitomizes how the misogyny and sexism that pervades much of Nigerian culture also infects women...
TeeBillz has multiple baby mamas and one already failed marriage (while working on the second), but it's Tiwa that "ruined" the family! SMH
RomanceRe: 17-year-old Boy Set To Marry His 15-year-old Fiancée In Sokoto(pics) by 9jaRealist: 1:17am On Apr 16, 2019
Kiddogarcia:
Goodluck to them.happiness is the major key
DISGUSTING! angry

Kids of that age have no business getting married. And if this girl gets pregnant within a year, chances of VVF is very high!
SportsRe: Lateef Omidiji Jr Dropped From AFCON Squad, He Reacts by 9jaRealist: 1:02am On Apr 16, 2019
Daninya111:
Lateef was treated poorly by the U15 Coach at the last Afcon.
I believe that demoralized the young lad psychologically at the U17 camp.

Dude didn't give his best and he was dropped.
Manu Garba for me is the only Nigerian coach that I know whom to a large extent is fair and transparent. The young lad should be patient and keep working his socks off,he may still have a chance of making the U17 squad for the World cup.

For the records, he still has Nigerian flag on his profile. He comes from a family blessed with immensed football talent. Even his elder sister deserves a look in by Super Falcon Coach,Dennerby.

Dude had a bad experience with the Cadet Coaches at the U15's.So he is not too blame if he reacts the way he did.

He should wait patiently for his time.
Who knows he may be our own Pele.

The kid is just bitter,he will get over it.
He needs our support and love.
How exactly was he treated "poorly"?

First, Nigeria did NOT qualify nor play in the last U17 AFCON (2017)...
But Lateef was taken to the 2018 Africa Youth Games in Morocco as part of the U15 squad (see pic below).

Glad to see as many Nigerians as possible in the mix...
But we should be wary of creating a situation where anyone that declares for Nigeria gets an automatic shirt!

https://sportsrollcall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Omidiji.jpg
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SportsRe: Lateef Omidiji Jr Dropped From AFCON Squad, He Reacts by 9jaRealist: 12:56am On Apr 16, 2019
Seethrough:
The simple reason is our age grade players are all cheats. So a truly talented kids lateef doesnt stand a chance, because he will always be regarded as too small or too fragile.The same way we lost David Alaba to Austria and till today we don't have one like him in left back position.
How did you "lose" what you never had? cheesy

Dude was born and raised in Austria. If he was a criminal, bet you wouldn't not be bitching about "losing" him.
SportsRe: Lateef Omidiji Jr Dropped From AFCON Squad, He Reacts by 9jaRealist: 12:53am On Apr 16, 2019
kunkelhanspeter:
We all know his too small to play for under 17 in Nigeria ��
Our under 17 are 25-28 years old above so a 15years old like him will never make it
Lame argument or lame attempt at humor...
2 UK-born and raised Nigerians (Chelea's Akande and Bournemouth's Oluwabusola) made the squad.
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist:
uuzba:
Oh?
So where are the people?
We are looking at the boundary of two separate functional towns with a road separating both. People can transact their full business on either side of the road. The road does not divide their town and they don't need to cross it. Amenities are provided on either side.
The road was put there first. Both towns expanded from their city centres outwards. The houses at the edge are the cheapest houses on the cheapest land because of vehicle noise from the roads.
The fence protects children living in these areas from venturing to the road. In UK, I saw fences along the railway line. They were placed specifically to prevent people trying to commit suicide.
The point remains that Western nations do not build 10 lane roads in the middle of town, put fences on them and expect people not to cross the roads or damage the fences in the process of trying to do so.
Don't just be in UK or US vexing for Nigerians. You have to study the people and their history. Then you will understand why certain things appear the way they do.
The IRONY! grin grin grin

Meanwhile, since Ambode did NOT personally build these "10 lane roads in the middle of town" (the most 'recent' in Lekki being over 35 years ago), should he therefore not do anything to alleviate the situation? Or should he instead evict the population and demolish their property?
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 12:19am On Apr 16, 2019
uuzba:
Oh?
So where are the people?
We are looking at the boundary of two separate functional towns with a road separating both. People can transact their full business on either side of the road. The road does not divide their town and they don't need to cross it. Amenities are provided on either side.
The road was put there first. Both towns expanded from their city centres outwards. The houses at the edge are the cheapest houses on the cheapest land because of vehicle noise from the roads.
The fence protects children living in these areas from venturing to the road. In UK, I saw fences along the railway line. They were placed specifically to prevent people trying to commit suicide.
The point remains that Western nations do not build 10 lane roads in the middle of town, put fences on them and expect people not to cross the roads or damage the fences in the process of trying to do so.
Don't just be in UK or US vexing for Nigerians. You have to study the people and their history. Then you will understand why certain things appear the way they do.
Sorry but you keep missing the forest for the trees. undecided

Proper planning is to build for YOUR population and it peculiar lifestyles, not just simply to copy-and-paste from "the UK" or "Europe" (when even with both there are as much peculiarities as commonalities among their constituent units and infrastructure). Again, population centers in Nigeria typically germinate around roadways, highways, rivers, and/or markets. Accordingly, these highways that you erroneously argue were "built in the middle of town" were actually not (and our parents/grandparents will testify that when highways like the Badagry or the Lagos-Ibadan expressways or even the Lekki expressway were built these areas were very sparsely populated and not built up).

Given that Nigeria's REALITY (not the UK's or Europe's) is that despite building highways out in the middle of nowhere (Lekki was essentially swamp wasteland when the Lekki Expressway was built over 35 years ago), populations will invariably migrate/gravitate around these highways/roadways, good governance is to adopt the most pragmatic measures to manage/ameliorate any issues arising therefrom. In this case, fencing have been used and has proved reasonably effective - until the apparently recent spate of vandalization, which unfortunately appears seems to be garnering the commendation rather than condemnation of some Nairalanders.
TravelRe: Onitsha Niger Bridge In 1967 And 2019 (Photos) by 9jaRealist: 8:11pm On Apr 15, 2019
raumdeuter:
The killer of Murtala were executed immediately not protected like Ifeajuna and co
Not quite correct! Col Dimka was executed but Sgt. Yilda who did the actual killing is still “at large” till today.

Meanwhile, Gen. Gowon who was quickly roped into the coup plot has since been “pardoned”, rehabilitated and living large.
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 7:51pm On Apr 15, 2019
uuzba:
Excellent pictures.
NOW, can you see any residential houses and market nearby? Where are the pedestrians?
NONE.
Wire mesh is used in the non residential areas. No market, no school, nothing to attract pedestrians.

Our own is upside down. 10 lane road right in the middle of residential area. How won't people cross the road everyday and break the fence?
https://p.globalsources.com/IMAGES/PDT/B0769814385/PVC-Coated-Security-Electro-Welded-Wire-Mesh-Fence.jpg

https://www.wire-meshfence.com/Up/day_160323/201603231022472670.jpg

https://www.wiremesh-rql.com/by%20application/Noise%20Barrier/images/Highway%20Noise%20Barrier4.jpg
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 7:28pm On Apr 15, 2019
Focusmind:
Here we go again. Nobody is denying the fact that iron mesh is not used in other parts of the world. Most times, it is used in low density areas and not in a high urban centers where traffic - both human and vehicular are much. The picture you posted showed were they were used in an express way and low density area. See how scanty the area in the picture you posted looks.

Compare it to Lagos, where population density is high, with street hawkers everywhere and unruly commercial bus drivers. You need to up your game and ensure that whatever material you are using in those areas could withstand human interference. These are all factored in engineering process.

See another express with wrought iron
Dude, that thing is primarily DECORATIVE, and you put it on Lagos roads people will simply jump over it. grin

If only Nigerians are willing to try what apparently is a novelty to them of obeying basic (and quite often rather simple) rules and regulations, rather than constantly trying to be “sharp” (while labeling others “Dundee”) and to game the system, only to then turn around and wonder why they are surrounded by chaos and nothing ever seems to work. Or why their rulers effectively imbibe the same culture of lawlessness. SMH
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 7:19pm On Apr 15, 2019
Beedude:
These ones na original compare to what we have here
Er...the only difference is the color.
The material itself (wire mesh) is exactly the same!
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist:
Originalsly:
I'm not surprised. I blame the planners. Why would they have mountainous overhead bridges in high pedestrian traffic areas? Did they consider people with load?... the aged? Can some supporters of these costly inconveniences explain to me why traffic lights were not placed to regulate the flow of both pedestrian and vehicle traffic? Not against the fence... but I'm against the ridge in this 21st century... maybe a good idea 1940/1950.... that's not at all progressive in these times.
Traffic on these roads function better and safer with the fencing than without...
It’s not a perfect (even ideal) solution but it is pragmatic and BETTER - and perfection should never be the enemy of better.

Meanwhile, if you have actually been on these roads you realize that they have BOTH pedestrian bridges and traffic lights (and/or even LASTMA traffic police/wardens). The idea of these fences is to compel Nigerians to use PROPER road furniture (lights, crossings and/or walkways, etc.), because it sadly appears that many Nigerian adults have to be literally forced to do even the most basic things correctly.
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 7:06pm On Apr 15, 2019
Triniti:
Maintenance culture =zero, this is what happens when you don’t maintain already existing public infrastructure, it starts deteriorating.
But they are NOT “deteriorating”! shocked

This isn’t passive wear-and-tear but rather active VANDALIZATION by citizens. Nigerians are sometimes the WORST thing to happen to Nigeria!
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 6:59pm On Apr 15, 2019
uuzba:
In the '60, Oshodi area in Lagos was empty. The government was just building the expressway then. And they cleared off some "village" lands there. My dad lost a "village" plot he purchased there.
After the road was built, they didn't stop people from going back there and building houses all over the place.
The Government didn't do it's duty. And never seems to do it. They just open the back door and collect bribe from individuals who end up building markets all over ther road and hawking gala right on the road.
It's not fence that will solve the problem.
We all know if government tries to forcefully evict people or otherwise impose planning laws in Nigeria, all hell will break loose...
Our communities naturally/organically aggregate around markets, roadways or highways, and thus we should accommodate same within reason.
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 6:54pm On Apr 15, 2019
uuzba:
Who caused the poverty?
Everybody was chilling in their villages before minding their humble business. But city people will not allow them hear word. Now they all rushed to the city and the city people cannot employ them. Why did you do shakara for them in the first place? They are here now and will mess up the whole place and will never go back to their villages.
grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 6:53pm On Apr 15, 2019
OgogoroFreak:
A serious government would have been through with this work before now. Ambode is not a good person. angry
Exactly! Because a “good person” would never have built pedestrian bridges, walkways and fence off highways to protect pedestrians from being run over against apparently their own wishes to be run over. Dude, you can drag a horse to the stream but you cannot force it to drink.
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 6:46pm On Apr 15, 2019
uuzba:
.I lived in UK once and visited a few other European countries. They don't have fences on their roads. And people don't cross the roads. Why?
They don't build 10 lane expressway in residential areas as we have done. Their expressway is out of town. There's no houses there. So nobody has to cross it.
Inside the town, where the houses are, they have small dual carriage roads with traffic lights and zebra crossings. EXACTLY AS LAGOS ISLAND.
It's called panning.

Now in America, their roads are bigger. But almost everyone has a car. They buy cars using monthly payment schemes. You don't have to save complete money for car. Just pay minimum monthly sum over 2, 3, 4 years and the car is yours to use NOW.
If you have car, what are you doing crossing road?
It's called planning.
I was going to respond by starting off on your wrong presumptions about the UK (even just driving in from Heathrow, there are miles of cement fencing separating residential estates from the motorway. Nonetheless, I do not want to unnecessarily quibble about minor details and consequently lose the forest for the trees. Accordingly, I am glad that you yourself noted the DIFFERENCES between roadways in the UK and the US, the lesson being that you build for YOUR population and their peculiar lifestyles (within reason of course). Thus, if fencing is necessary to save Nigerians form their own self-destructive personal habits, or because in Nigeria population tend to gravitate towards and/or form around highways and roadways, then PROPER PLANNING would require it. It is NOT one-size-fits-all!
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 6:29pm On Apr 15, 2019
Focusmind:
AutoJosh leave matter. Our standards are just too low in this country. This kind of thing is done using wrought iron. Go to Europe and see how wrought iron that have stayed for centuries were used for road division and this type of work as shown in the picture below

Here, we use one fake gauze iron for things like this, despite the fact that the disorder in this country is second to none. Check some of the flower lanes and bus tops where these fake and sub-standard wire gauze were used, they have all spoilt. For you to build things that will last, use superior material.
Wire mesh fencing is used on roadways all over the world...
Let's quit effectively giving comfort to wrongdoers/lawbreakers by implying that the fault lies elsewhere.

https://www.caddetails.com/CompanyContent/5138/ProjectImages/164/Fencing-and-Wire-Mesh-241-Toll-Road-Project-by-Natina-Products-5.jpg

https://upload.ecvv.com/upload/UserImage/20151210/Supplyguardrailnetsfence_206c146d-a2f0-4b00-b7de-c50ea0244fd7.jpg
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 6:18pm On Apr 15, 2019
Beedude:
Inferior fence to start with. Though we lack maintenance culture both the citizens and govt. I saw some of these fences in Dubai and I know those that did the work in Lagos just use it to syphon money. How can an iron fence be destroyed in less than 4 years when it wasn't hit by a Truck, Lorry, Tata bus, or Bulldozer. I weep for this nation
There’s NOTHING “inferior” about them...
These are basic WIRE MESH used worldwide. If someone wants to do fanciful fencing, that’s their kpalanga but should be not our priority.
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 6:12pm On Apr 15, 2019
allsaint2000:
A nation without a culture of maintenance. So, what do you expect?
Public maintenance issues may well be a part of it (albeit the Lagos Public Works Corporation continually maintains public fixtures, and even have a hotline for same), but to be brutally honest it is more the manifestation of prioritizing physical infrastructure over social infrastructure (primarily EDUCATION). The result is that even relatively progressive-thinking governments like Lagos’ is often effectively left struggling to build a 21st Century city for a population in which large segments thereof are still imbued with 19th Century (or earlier) personal habits, worldview, mindset and beliefs. For instance, in Lagos, it is not unusual to see people openly taking a leak (in extreme cases, even defecating) right in front of the admittedly few public toilets or dashing across highways right underneath overhead walkways.

Accordingly, until and unless we begin to more massively and meaningfully invest in people (primarily in EDUCATION but also in healt and such other indices of Human Capital Development), we’ll just stay running in place - or, worse, keep sliding backwards!
PoliticsRe: Maghalu: If Buhari Offers Me Political Appointment I'll reflect on it by 9jaRealist: 6:10pm On Apr 15, 2019
9jaBloke:
Bottom line is that he is open to a political appointment from a government he publicly castigated.
If he is appointed CBN Governor, he would dumb not to be “open” to it...
Not all appointments by the President makes the officeholder a part of the administration.
PoliticsRe: Ambode’s Road & Transport Legacy Being Destroyed Even Before His Exit by 9jaRealist: 6:06pm On Apr 15, 2019
ZOO! angry
CareerRe: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 5:34pm On Apr 15, 2019
nograv:
Then answer my questions and stop being a coward. What are you?

Ordinary Nigerians are not to blame for their predicament, it is Nigerian leaders that have failed them. Do you agree??

As for the issue being bigger than me, of course I know that. That is why push for reforming Nigeria, not its breakup as Nigeria will be the lodestar for Africa.

Most Nigerians year think money will bring them happiness it doesn’t. If you are fortunate enough to travel and mix in elite circles, you realise how few black faces sit at the top table. How few of us actually sit across from others as equals. That’s why I rail against the mistreatment of my people. Unlike you who denigrate them and blame them for their failures.

I maybe smart and have a bit of cash in my pocket, but regardless of my hard work, luck played a huge role (family etc). I am no better than any Lagos area boy or poor street urchin. They are victims of Nigeria’s failures..

I checked out your profile, I was surprised you had a picture of brother Malcolm of all people. You are one confused foreigner and you call our people and me a Nigger. Hilarious..

Gtfo...
BTW, I do NOT agree with the highlighted...
Nigeria’s condition is ultimately a culmination of the collective conduct (by commission or omission) of ALL Nigerians.
CareerRe: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 5:31pm On Apr 15, 2019
nograv:
I agree with you on the need for legislation, I have said as much in other posts.

On whites thinking they are superior or having racial bias I have experienced that first hand. From guys assuming I cant code to folks addressing subordinates in a meeting only to be politely informed that I a black man is the boss..

Legislation can only achieve so much. As blacks and asians suffer higher unemployment and lower wages in the UK and US even when they are better educated. In shoet whites favour their own even when laws are in place and the black person has more skills than his peers..

Likewise I am sorry to say we should do the same. Nigeria is and should be for Nigerians. As the US and UK are for Europeans in the main..

So I will not accept some foreign bastard like Jaqenhghar coming on a Naija forum and saying ordinary Nigerians are the problem and that we are Niggers..

As for Nigerians thinking they are racially superior to others, I am saddened by this. I personally have never seen it.

If you are talking about tribalism that is a different thing. I not against saying some groups like Igbo have more progressive, democratic and meritocratic values than say Hausa. But I think that is down to culture not some inherent racial superiority. I say this as a man who is half Yoruba and Igbo.

But if a man says he his tribe is superior to another just because, I will quickly tell him to shut up..
BTW, Nigeria is NOT doing foreign investors any favors.

It is a symbiotic relationship pursuant to which they bring in funds, create jobs and employ Nigerians in return for which they make (or expect to make) profits for their investment. It is for Nigeria to ensure that these relationships work well for Nigeria and Nigerians by legislating and implementing the best possible safety and labor relationship standards - and such standards should exist for EVERY employment relationship in Nigeria, regardless of the nationality of the employer (Nigerian or otherwise). Nigerian employers should NEVER be granted leeway and.or permission to exploit other Nigerians in a manner that we would be appalled (or not allow) if the employer was a foreigner.
CareerRe: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 5:21pm On Apr 15, 2019
nograv:
I agree with you on the need for legislation, I have said as much in other posts.

On whites thinking they are superior or having racial bias I have experienced that first hand. From guys assuming I cant code to folks addressing subordinates in a meeting only to be politely informed that I a black man is the boss..

Legislation can only achieve so much. As blacks and asians suffer higher unemployment and lower wages in the UK and US even when they are better educated. In shoet whites favour their own even when laws are in place and the black person has more skills than his peers..

Likewise I am sorry to say we should do the same. Nigeria is and should be for Nigerians. As the US and UK are for Europeans in the main..

So I will not accept some foreign bastard like Jaqenhghar coming on a Naija forum and saying ordinary Nigerians are the problem and that we are Niggers..

As for Nigerians thinking they are racially superior to others, I am saddened by this. I personally have never seen it.

If you are talking about tribalism that is a different thing. I not against saying some groups like Igbo have more progressive, democratic and meritocratic values than say Hausa. But I think that is down to culture not some inherent racial superiority. I say this as a man who is half Yoruba and Igbo.

But if a man says he his tribe is superior to another just because, I will quickly tell him to shut up..
Rather rich considering that millions of Nigerians reside in and earn a livelihood all across the world...
Reportedly transferring about US$25 billion back to Nigeria as remittances every year helping to keep Nigeria economically stable.

Anyway, you just seem unable to grasp the point that I am making so I will not unnecessarily belabor same...
I do NOT care about people’s racist or tribalist belief (it would great if these did not exist), but rather for equal protection under the law.
CareerRe: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 10:53am On Apr 14, 2019
nograv:
I have relatives in Ikoyi who do treat their workers badly. But they dont think they are raciallu superior, I assure you a lot of Indians DO!!!

I have even had Indians say to me, "You are a smart black, but you have to admit a lot of blacks are really dumb" as joke.. They werent joking they believe it..

The problem is that blacks dont identify with each other. I assure you whites do, asians and everybody else..
Many Brits, Europeans, and Americans (among others) in the UK, the EU and the US similarly believe that they are inherently racially superior to black people. The law is the only thing that stops them from overtly (or overly) mistreating their black employees. We cannot regulate the thoughts of individual human beings but we can surely regulate their ACTIONS!

PS: And just btw, if you do not know that there are Nigerians who think that they (or their ethnic groups) are genetically inherently superior to other Nigerians, then I am afraid that you have NOT been on Nairaland long enough - or just have not been paying attention.
CareerRe: Molten Iron At An Indian Steel Company In Lagos Kills Many Nigerians Working by 9jaRealist: 10:45am On Apr 14, 2019
nograv:
One wrong does not negate the other. Also the examples you cited are class based prejudice. Indians typically engage in RACE based prejudice and that is very different.

One can work hard and change their class as my grandfather did. One cannot change his or her race and only deluded blacks try...
And btw, it should not (nor was it ever meant to) “negate” any malfeasance...
But similarly Nigerian nationality should not “negate” the malfeasance of any employer.

EVERY employer in Nigeria should be held to the highest possible standards...
Quite disgraceful that many Nigerians operate (and others are condone) a virtual slavery system here in Nigeria.

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