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parisbookaddict:
U keep on running away from my questions. .
Ok mr muslim do u want a comparison..
List the "crimes" with bible verses of the prophets u mentioned and i will do the same for mohammed using the quran and sahih hadiths.. lets see if mohammed can be compared to these men...

i still wonder why u dont what a comparison between jesus and ur prophet.. why run to ancient prophets who never claimed to be messiahs.

Apparently u think u are engaged in a conversation with a nonmuslim who haven't read the quran and hadiths. I have read them and i have verses to backup what i say.

You still don't get it do you! The Islamic prophet never claimed to be the messiah, if you truly read the Quran you would know this, in fact any prophet that claims to be the messiah will directly contradict what Islam is all about. I refuse to answer your questions because any sane person can see that you are just reaching and your claims are nothing but hogwash. I wonder why you are so quick to term prophets like Abraham and Moses as ancient, could it be that their lifestyle closely resembled that of Prophet Muhammad(p.b.u.h)? Why have you chosen to only focus on Jesus, are you saying the other prophets did not matter?

parisbookaddict:
Have u read the story.. do you know how remorseful he was. .A prophet was even sent to warn him of his evil deed... Now show me were mohammed was remorseful for all his adultery. .sleeping with 11 women when he claimed allah says marry only 4 including his numerous sex slaves. .and sex with a child



He produced ishmael with the servant girl and he was rebuked for that..have u ever read the narrative. . today the offspring of the affair are the arabs allegedly who foe 1400 years have waged jihad...

Sin is not accommodated or condoned or overlooked in Judaism or Christianity as it is in islam

Still making excuses I see, pathetic!

parisbookaddict:
More insults from a frustrated muslim. By the way islam paints itself in bad light sufficiently enough.

Apparently u missed my point....

Mohammed says in his quran that he is the perfect example for all mankind. . .. yet he was very sinful a hedonist and sex addict amongst other vices..


U still havent answered the questions i asked about mohammed..are u scared to attempt them..

Christ is the perfect example for all mankind...he was sinless even you quran acknowledges his uniqueness. ..

- Quran mentions in sura 19 that Jesus was born by immaculate conception . That implies that Prophet Mowas conceived from lustful sex like a low life animal.

- , Quran designated one whole sura to the mother of Jesus (Mary,sura 19). Poor Mo’s mother Amina was noteven mentioned once, leave alone naming a sura after her.

- Quran says Jesus was a born a genius who could talk as a new born (5.110) . It also says that Mo was born as a mòron who could never learn to read or write all his life (7.157,7.158).

Quran says Jesus could make a clay bird and give life to it (5.110). That means he was capable of creating his own food. On the other hand Allah had to make stealing halal for Mo because Mo was not capable of earning his own bread (8.1,8.41) .

Quran says Jesus could give life to dead people (5.110) . On the other hand Mo could only kill live people dead (3.152,8.17,8.67,33.26-27)..
(Mo holds the world record of beheading 900 men of Quraiza in a single day)

- Quran says Jesus could give sight to the blind (5.110). Mo took the sight away from of the seeing . (He had eyes of the Ukul men gouged because they had stolen Mo’s stolen camels ).

- Quran says Allah gave Jesus capability of curing incurable diseases like leprosy (5.110). Allah gave no such power to Mo (20.133). His own most beloved sonIbrahim ( from his sex slave Maria) died in front of him, although Mo prayed and begged Allah for his health for several nights.

- Allah made Jesus a saint who never lusted women . Allah made Mo a Satan who killed innocent men and enslaved their wives and daughters and raped them 33.50).

Allah made Jesus a very loving man who loved children .Allah made Mo a pedophile who made love to children (65.4).

- Quran says Jesus did not die , he was raised to heaven by Allah . Allah did no such favors for Mo. He was buried in ground to rot after he died a very painful death, poisoned by his enemies..

Listen up confused fellow, no one is comparing the prophet to Jesus, you are the one doing that yourself. Islam sees the prophet as a messenger of Allah just like Moses, Abraham and others. Now whether you agree that he is a messenger of God or not is none of my concern, you have your faith and I have mine, your salvation will not lead to mine and vice versa. troublemakers like yourselves love to take parts out of the Quran that you can twist to favor your argument, the same methods extremists use all over the world to fulfill their agenda. Now let me have a little fun, are you saying Jesus was the only relevant prophet in the Bible? What about Abraham, Moses, Joshua? Did you know that the same accusations you've leveled against the Islamic prophet can also be put against Abraham and Moses? They also killed people and also owned slaves, so by your reasoning those prophets are satanic? You see how ridiculous your statements are?

parisbookaddict:
So you agree that mohammed lived a questionable lifestyle. Its not often I get Muslims to admit this.

Remind me! Doesn't your unholy quran say that mohammed is the perfect example for all mankind.

So ur Islamic allah picks a very flawed human w[b]ho raped sex slaves, beheaded folks, waged wars, had sex with a child, slept with his son's wife, murdered people, killed his critics including a nursing mother, hand maids and a 100 year old man[/b], so ur "perfect" Islamic example did all this and more and yet ur Islamic allah says he is the perfect example for all mankind.

Ur Islamic god is kinda evil isn't he ?

If Jesus can forgive a prostitute, David can take another man's wife, Abraham have more than one wife and some disciples with questionable characters surely you believe God can use anyone to fulfill his missions. Let me ask you an honest question, what religion do you practice? It surely can't be Christianity! Real Christians are way more intelligent than this, for the rubbish you posted above how many people did Abraham kill? Moses? Joshua? Since you have great knowledge of the prophets surely you can answer such simple questions.....Ignoramus! Many of the prophets were very violent, only few were saints, your cheap attempt to paint Islam in a bad light isn't working and it will only end up to backfire on your pathetic life!

I see that people are still deceiving themselves at this day and age. Did your father married your mother knowing the answers to all these questions or vise versa? I doubt it! Nowadays everybody wants to give marital advice but the greatest advice is to stop looking for a perfect relationship and make work with what you've got! If your partner is 60 to 70% of what you consider perfect then count yourself lucky.

parisbookaddict:
The only problem with your analogy is that I have evidence to back up everything I say abot mohammed and mohammedians/orthodox (mostly sunni) Muslims.
I have posted secreen shots showing u the language often encounted with Muslims in the religion section. I have tonnes of sahih hadiths and quran passages to back up the fact the mohammed was a paedophile, sex addict, slave trader and rapist of sex slaves, a man who had sex with his own adopted sons wife, a man who contradicted himself then called it abrogations, a jihadist mass murder, a bigot and possibly bipolar.

Your standards for prophethood in Islam is so low.

How well do u know mohammed, pls answer the following questions

Did Mohammed sleep with a child, 9 year old
Aisha?YES/NO
Did he kill people?YES/NO
Did Mohammed command his followers to fight people based on their beliefs?YES/NO
Did he sleep with slaves?YES/NO
Did he command his followers to sleep with captives their right hand possess?YES/NO
Did Mohammed marry more wives than Islamic Allah permits Muslims?YES/NO
Did he perform any miracles?YES/NO
Did he contradict himself?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW
Did he permit the murder of his critics?YES/NO
Did herapewomen during after war, which he
called war booty?{I.e Slave-girls as sexual property}YES/NO
Did he permit Muslims to beat their wives? {Even if but lightly}YES/NO
Did he ask people to drink camel piss for good health?YES, HEALTHY/NO, HE DIDN'T
Did Mohammed say apostates should be killed?YES & I CONCUR / YES, BUT I DON'T CONCUR / NO, HE COULDN'T HAVE!

You believe a fraud who even says he can't guide anyone.
Surah 72:21: Say, “I possess no
power to harm you, nor to guide
you.” (Khalifa)
“It is not in my power to cause you
harm, or to bring you to the Right
Path.” (Hilali-Khan)

Do you really understand the gravity of
Muhammad’s statement when he said, “I possess no power to guide you” or “to
bring you to the Right Path”?

Is it not a
prophet’s duty to guide the congregation of God to the “Right Path”? Can you now depend on this man to guide you to salvation? Would it be wise for you to do so?

How silly can one person be? The rubbish you've posted above shows how little you know about Islam or Muslims! In your ignorance, you only see what you want to see and leave out all other relevant information. I know what your plans are, you are trying to turn this into a debate between Christianity and Islam, buddy that ain't gon happen! Go and read about other prophets that have come and gone, most of them had questionable lifestyles that wouldn't meet the approval of today's societies but none of them claimed to be God and Muslims certainly do not worship the Prophet! God in his infinite mercy can choose anyone to guide his people, even someone that does not qualify to be a religious leader. The Prophet never claimed to be a perfect being, he was a warrior, a leader, someone respected. He was a sinner just like you and me but it was through him that God decided to reveal the Quran. So my friend, you can continue bringing up questionable characteristics of the prophet that you do not agree with or you can enlighten yourself and actually read more about his accomplishments! Keep in mind, he is not Allah, he never claimed to be, only Allah can truly guide us towards the right path!

parisbookaddict:
Whats the insult..mohammed was a fraud and his legacy has put the middle east and northern africa in a mess

Is your father also not a fraud? Did he not promise your mother he'll take care of her and yet you wallow in poverty? See what I did there, I just made an assumption with no fact to back up my claim, exactly what you are doing

parisbookaddict:
Muslims are quick to threaten and insult especially when the fraud mohammed is exposed. ..its not a generalization. .its a fact. .

Lol.....See irony! Complaining of insults while dishing one out yourself, you are truly confused!

parisbookaddict:
Its not exclusive to any religion...i never said it was... but u muslims are quick to insult and threaten..

Just read your statement, you are still generalizing Muslims, stop it already! It's like saying Igbos are quick to start fights or saying Yorubas are quick to run whenever trouble starts. If you want people to take you seriously stop committing the fallacy of hasty generalization!

parisbookaddict:
Do are u a Quranist... why are u muslims so quick to insult..

Insulting/ blasting people are parts of human characteristics and not exclusive to one religion, only ignorant folks like you thinks otherwise! Next....

parisbookaddict:
I posted sahih hadiths incase u didnt notice..
The most repected books in islam is the quran, and the 2 sahih hadiths..muslim and Bukhari. ..some scholars say there are over 1 million hadiths and i picked the top 2...ur problem is al taqiyya or ignorance

You still getting it twisted, remove hadiths from your research and focus on the Quran. The Quran are wordings directly from God while some of the Hadiths are wordings from man about the happenings during the Prophet's life, do your research Google is your friend, dummy!

parisbookaddict:
Let's see if they will allow him leave islam when the time comes

Islamic texts says behead apostates eg;


Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17:Narrated 'Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."Qur'an 3:90-91





The word apostate in Arabic is murtaddand one who apostatizes is called man artadd 'an dinihi, i.e. "Who turns his back on religion."

Two words are used for apostasy in Moslem law: irtidadand ridda. The latter term relates to apostasy from Islam into unbelief, kufr; the former, from Islam to some other religion, for example, Christianity.

The passages in the Koran dealing with apostasy are the chapter of Women, verse 90; the chapter of the Table, verse 59; and the chapter of the Bee, verse 108, viz:
"Why are ye two parties about the hypocrites, when God hath overturned them for what they earned? Do ye wish to guide those whom God hath led astray? Whoso God hath led astray ye shall not surely find for him a path. They would fain that ye misbelieve as they misbelieve, that ye might be alike; take ye not patrons from among them until they too fight in God's way; but if they turn their backs, then seize them wheresoever ye and them, and take from them neither patron nor help" (IV. 90, 91). "O ye who believe! Whoso is turned away from his religion-God will bring (instead) a people whom He loves and who love Him, lowly to. believers, lofty to unbelievers, strenuous in the way of God, fearing not the blame of him who blames" (V.59).

It will be sufficient to quote what the standard commentary of Baidhawi says on the first passage: "Whosoever turns back from his belief (irtada), openly or secretly, take him and kill him wheresoever ye find him, like any other infidel.

This agrees with traditional orthodox agreement on the
topic..

Leave islam and u are beheaded.

The similarities between ignorant people like you and ISIS is quite surprising! You both take samples of wordings out of context and use it to spread hate! Majority of you clowns don't know the difference between the Quran and Hadiths yet you seem to believe you know all there is to know about Islam.....Shame!

Nonsense! Young man choose a religion because you genuinely believe in it not because of some promise or vow. Islam is a wonderful religion but not a religion which should be seen as a burden or obligatory fulfillment. No one will harm you if you decided not to go through with the vow, you are only human but if your heart truly believes in Islam then welcome my broda!

Maryland just like New York and Chicago, concentrated with Nigerians many of whom are not really Nigerians but an American born to Nigerian parents, many of whom have lost their origin....R.I.P

You've only been married for how long? 6 months or 2.6 years? You want to kill yourself because your spouse cheated on you? Let me tell you what will happen, after your death, he'll shed a few tears and marry another babe within 6 months to a year, they'll live happily ever after. The truth is bitter but you must hear it! You married a flirt and since you can't go back and fix that, the only option is for you to decide whether to move on with him or without him. I get tired of people claiming they have unconditional love for their partner but aren't willing to go through trials and challenges. The fact remains most marriages are tested mostly within the first couple of years, it's like the whole world is against the union but if both individuals involved are strong not only physically but emotionally and spiritually then maybe just maybe they might overcome those challenges! No one knows your spouse more than you, you know his good side now God has given you the opportunity to know his bad/ugly side, what you do next is completely up to you!

Whether you stole one naira or 1 billion, stealing should be discouraged. It is only when we get this into our heads that we can even begin to champion a less corrupt society!

Chiaka:
I believe you just talking about the post pointing finger at one and pretending not to see the real causes or genesis of the this type of things

I suggest you read my post again and this time very slowly!

Chiaka:
and its ok for northerners to own most of SS oil blocs is it?! You better wake up from slumber! If you want to cleans, cleans the whole system and not selective judgement.

Do you people enjoy rambling or is it just a way of life? If you calmed down just a bit, you'll realize my post is actually in favor of the Niger-Delta people. I just don't favor one or two people keeping all the loot for themselves while the rest of the Niger-Deltans suffer!

I have no problem if he's getting paid that much per month just as long as the money is being used to develop the Niger-Delta area. Buhari should cancel the payments immediately if Tompolo cannot account for his spending and put in place a committee specifically designed to develop the Niger-Delta area, if the area can be developed like Lagos or Abuja I doubt the citizens would have much to complain about. I do not trust these militant leaders as most of them are corrupt, we need a check and balance system to probe their activities and if they are not willing to conform then negotiations are closed and Marshall law is declared!

I still maintain that NYSC is a waste of time and effort considering the nation's situation. After struggling through 4 or 5 years of subpar university education, you now force graduates to live for a year in a certain part of the country not caring for their security or well being. In addition, vast majority of NYSC corpers are given tasks which has nothing to do with their degree of study. Furthermore to make things worse, they are released after a year into a job market in which the odds are stacked against them from day one. Simply ridiculous! Till the government and private sector comes together to fix the high unemployment rate in the nation, till we see improved security for not only corpers but all citizens of the nation, NYSC remains nothing but a waste of time! The only reason people are still interested in it is because of the bogus statute in the constitution enforcing the scheme, for goodness sake I still know many people which youth service ended 4 or 5 years ago and are still looking for a job, some say that they are unlucky but I believe they trusted the system and the system kicked them in the a**, it's high time the system receives a makeover!

Anyone noticed how many threads on Nairaland created by the same set of people saying the same things over and over again. Just look at the comments, same stale jokes, same insults. I actually expected to read proposed solutions, intellectual discussions but all I see here are frustrated bitter souls....SHAME!

CyberWolf:
just checked your profile..didn't know I'm wasting my time on a riffraff ..Now run along you this wretched dog..I'm done with you

You might be blind or something or maybe you don't understand the meaning of riffraff? You only wish you could measure up to a person like me! Like I said your parents should have done the world a favor and flushed you down the toilet

CyberWolf:
you don't know me, so shut the fvck up this silly bastard..

I know you enough to know that you are a product of waste and if your parents knew better they should have flushed you down the toilet!

CyberWolf:
as long as you are giving excuses for government, your family member will be among the next victim..bastard

Fark off the internet, go and attend to your poverty stricken family, you shameless son of a he goat!

Ngokafor:
....My friend shut up!!!...You must be a very wicked person!..

..Lives have been wasted for nothing and all you care about is the image of Buhari ..

..besides didnt you clowns expect Jonathan to personally pick up arms to confront those terrorists going by your very unreasonable criticims?..now the chicken has come home roost and you all are already crying..una go cry tire,una never start.

See this ignoramus comparing someone with years of opportunities to that of someone with less than a month. I guess the hatred in your heart blinded you to that fact! Whether you like it or not, Buhari is your president, the sooner you accept it the earlier your high blood pressure is cured! Come back in 96 days and start criticizing, for now you are just a silly troll!

CyberWolf:
may your family member be among the next victim of this senseless killings, then come here and spew thrash..ediot

May thunder fire that your mouth and may your wishes above be directed to your family and offspring!

Doghe:
That wouldn't be unimaginable for a General. You have little faith in him.

If he did that, I would be the first person to condemn him! This is a democratic era, things are done systematically. He is over 70 years old and not a freaking super hero! I have faith that he will use all the resources within his reach to tackle Boko Haram but I'm not so ignorant to believe it will happen so fast!

slimmy05:
you are a complete dimwit, the same rubbish you told GEJ, you better sit down and tell your clueless president to move to Maiduguri the same way he claimed he did in his dictatorial rule.

You are still pained by GEJ's defeat, I get it! Anyways you can't fight God, Buhari is your president now, I suggest you accept it!

CSTR2:
I hope you suffer what those people are going through, you mad fuucck.
And then we will hide the news so as not to "spite" buhari.
*50 people dead and this idiott wants it hidden.*

And I hope one day you develop a brain capable of reasoning for yourself you dumb chimp! Most of you are less concerned about the amount of people that died and more concerned about blaming it on a newly elected president. Shame on you and your fellow cohorts!

Doghe:
Exactly! All you care about is the image of the president and not the lives lost because it has no value to you.

You should have asked Buhari to put on an Armor vest with AK-47 and face Boko Haram heads on.....Rubbish!

sss2015:
So you guys know this & castigated Oga Jona! This is just the beginning for the APC government. All we need is the safety of our brothers in NE

I know you are still pained by GEJ's defeat but try to move on! There's nothing a president with less than a week in office can do about the recent attack. GEJ had years to combat this menace but chose to wait till the last few months, unfortunately too little too late!

Doghe:
50 dead and you say the thread was created out of spite? No wonder human lives have no value in this country!

Yes out of spite, if you bothered to check the author's profile, you would have known he is a strong critic of the president. 50 lives lost is tragic but there's nothing a president with less than a week in office can do!