₦airaland Forum

Pierocash:
Stop dishing out lies. I grew up in Asaba,we eat ogbono quite well,and it is sold in the open markets. So I do not know the Asaba you are talking about. Maybe Asaba in adis ababa

FakeUnity:
You want Igbos to unite with yoruba that cannot unite themselves.

Go to oshogbo and see how yoruba muslims are beating up yoruba christians everyday over the issue of hijab. MURIC is always there, looking yoruba christians to sell as slave to the foolanis.

yorubas should unite themselves first.

drealcivilceno:
Using the bolded, how did he clickbait us...

FarahAideed:
What a huge lie ...5 percent from where ? What activities generated this phantom growth ? It's sad to see the NBS is now being forced to reel out fake statistics .... What did we export and what investments did we receive that warranted this growth?

Obdk:
If you have ever stayed in Port Harcourt u won't say they don't need Aba

Obdk:
Besides Lagos Anambra have more economic activities than every other place

Ngorbungor:
Please remove PH and Abuja on that your list

What is PH hubbing when he get all his needs in ABA, and Onitsha close down ABA for One week PH will go hungry.

Abuja depend on Kaduna, Kano and Onitsha please there is not like hub in Abuja.

10mobile:
Apart from the market, there are many beautiful plazas springing up around the city. One thing I have noticed is that they are generally cheaper than elsewhere because not many people are coming for them yet. So, it's still an opportunity for those who have foresight.

Idiko1:
If Abakaliki is next economic hub, which is the first?

10mobile:
A stream runs through the market. We're planning to build a mini park along the stream for relaxation. You know, all trading and no relaxation makes Jane a dull girl

Ofodirinwa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGZbnI1w0Yk

TAO12:
Yes the Yorubas in olden times had some indigenous script.

Are the characters of the script completely intact till date? No!

Are the characters of the script all decipherable today? The best that exists are guesses.

But is there any evidence today that shows definitely that they did have an indigenous script, and hence a form of writing? Yes!

TAO12:
Since you had “thought,” your comment below is not necessary then. I wasn’t the one who thought.

My reaction was based on what you “thought”. As such my comment is justified.



Having said that, you appear now at this point to be in agreement with those West-African groups who point to Ife as the first among the five greatest.

Got it! We are on the same page on that then.
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Moving on from that to what seem to be your actual intended question:

Are you asking whether (or not) Yorubas in ancient or classical times have some form of indigenous scripts?

TAO12:
False!

There is no evidence of glass manufacture anywhere else sub Saharan Africa — except Ife.

That’s the difference — the manufacture of primary glass from start.

amc:
Doing both of what you listed is very good. Removing a sitting President illegally is wrong. So use your protests wisely, not for another round of riots, killings and destruction like we saw during last year's #ENDSARs riots.

TAO12:
Abohboy appears to be another version of the Binis — but a refined version.

Ife in the whole of sub Saharan Africa had a monopoly of glass manufacturing circa the 1100s

Archaeological excavations at Igbo-Olokun alongside chemical analysis of the finds have submitted this in recent years.

Move Abohboy!

scholes0:
I was the one you quoted, and what I said was that both oral literature of we the people involved as well as the earliest written records from the European explorers point towards ife. I didn't say Africans recorded their history in print or writing. And TAAO's reply gave a very good example of such written sources with an additional layer of orally documented reportage.
Don't conflate the points.

TAO12:
Documents written by Africans in what language?

You mean the Africans who gave those information to the Europeans are liars who relegated their own heritage for a foreign state?

I don’t get what you’re thinking. Explain yourself.

Inferiority complex no go kill my people.

scholes0:
Ancient Yoruba renditions of the notorious solomon's knot on old Benin ancestral altar..... smh

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TAO12:
Apart from Benin Kingdom (where their traditional accounts point to Ife as the source of both the casting tradition and the monarchy); there is another instance of such pointing to Ife (from other places in West Africa) in the passage I cited earlier from Leo Frobenius’ work.

The passage deals with Leo Frobenius’ first travel in West Africa in 1908 before he visited Ife (or “Nigeria”) at all. At these places (in other parts of West Africa), he heard frequent tells about Ife and its greatness.

Frobenius documents his experience (from some other West-African counties about Ife) as follows:

“When I came across some experienced explorers in 1908 in the great cities of the Niger on the southern borders of the Sahara,Timbuktu, and Wagadugu, and often discussed the antiquity of the far south-eastern cities, Ilife [Ile-ife] was mentioned as the first of five great places and it was only when in Atakpame in South Togoland, that I identified it with Ife. What I was then told in the North was so strange, indeed, that my resolve to visit the place myself at any cost was greatly strengthened.”

Leo Frobenius, “The Voice of Africa,” Vol 1., (1913), p.69.

Peace!
Cc: scholes0

amc:
I can tell you for free that not all 200m Nigerians will support your agenda. The 15 million people who voted for him and those who didn't but who support democracy would not standby and allow you remove a sitting President illegally.

Again, take it to the bank. Buhari will complete his tenure unless by an act of God. Some of you guys need to spend your time and energy on preparing for 2023. Don't miss another opportunity to vote in your kind of person.

amc:
SARS has been disbanded. What else were you looking for?

And you better get used to the fact that only an act of God or elections in 2023 can remove Buhari. Don't stress or waste your life waiting for something that won't happen.

mr1759:
In 1938 Yoruba as a nation unearthed 16 pieces of bronze art work from someone’s compound.

Question, after that dramatic archeological exploration in 1938 ,how many of such similar discoveries have be made ever since in Yoruba land in Egypt archaeologists discover things every day why will Yoruba own be once how do they even know where it was,

Have you people ask your self where those bronze came from,
Yoruba claim to the one who taught Benin bronze making yet is only 16 Pieces of bronze you people could produce since 9th centuries that is over 1000 years, you people use 1000 years to produce 16 pieces of bronze

In European museums alone Benin art that are there is more than 10,000 pieces, then some are America not to talk of the one in Benin the hub of art work yet Yoruba have 16 pieces and is claiming to have taught Benin

scholes0:
Ife civilization is waay older than anything that has ever come out of or connected to Benin in its current or any of its earlier forms.

As a matter of fact- the civilization of Benin traces directly back to Ife- which was the oldest nexus of civilization in all of tropical west and central Africa. Examples of these flows are in religion, linguistics, arts and artefacts, and the royalty… Including oral and the earliest written/recorded historical records.

mr1759:
Why archaeologists nor discover oduduwa bone, liars nor worry by the time we start revealing historical truth, Yoruba go run come Oba Benin palace their ancestral home come kneel down beg