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Bundaweber:
Iraq invading Iran ? That's just in modern history. What about the ottomans killing themselves position of power ? The saud annexation of Yemen and the invasion and conquering of rival nation for dominance of the Arabian pennisula. The current blocade of (Qatar?) by the Saudis? The Saudis support for the ongoing war in Yemen? The munghals? . These are are just a few examples of the top of my head. You my friend are really proving to be a dolt, worse a proselytizing one

What about American funding of Taliban? And the rest of the battles that happened everywhere between everyone do you even know how many wars were fought in America before it became an independent country the Spanish, British, French, Native Americans and Mexicans all fought to take control of America but none of those groups are muslims how come? Violence and war isn't islam or any popular religion violence and war are part of human nature at some point there will be violence or war whether we like it or not.

theInterpreter:
stop talking trash
London is about 3000 km²
Lagos city is far less

Lagos city isn't far less and the map doesn't even represent the actual Lagos, In England there's London and Greater London same way there should be Lagos City and Greater Lagos City intiially it tells you 1,171 sqkm for Lagos City but if you include Ikorodu, Lekki, Epe, Ibeju Lekki, Badgary and all those small cities in Ogun State that strecth into Lagos like Ota and Agbara then Lagos is a lot larger and yes he's right size doesn't determine anything we should be able to freely compare Onitsha and Ibadan even with the difference in size and I don't understand what the problem with this thread is Onitsha built highrises to save space and other Nigerian cities will need to do the same at some point especially Lagos, Port Harcourt and Kano they cannot keep on growing outward they need to start growing upwards cities like Ibadan would benefit from the center being made of highrises and it spreads down to singular house compunds as you go further out as is seen in cities like London but in Onitsha and Lagos the whole city should essentially be highrises if you want a single house you have to leave the city centre

BKayy:
There were no kings in Igboland before the British came. What they did was impose their newly converted Christian faithfuls (sell out) on their communities as Kings. For example, Walter Amobi of Ogidi that was their catechist.
The people initially didn't care but as time goes on, their children converted and started making things up to make the imposed Kings look like they were indigenous

Actually you're right they only had Eze's but the British labelled them as Kings

Indirect rule was very evil but in some communities the Kings did actually sell out for example where i'm from the Obi of Aboh didn't care much for their traditional religion all he cared about was what would make the city grow faster and what would bring in more trade so when the British told him that without Christianity he can't be rich and indulge in trade he allowed dozens of missionaries into Aboh and that was where the decline started

cocolacec:
Herbert Macaulay is the grandson of Samuel Ajayi Crowther.

That doesn't matter he was still more impactful

BKayy:
Do you know that Christianity started officially in Igboland in the same 19th century (1826) as North with similar event like Jihad but the difference is that the one of Igboland was by the white and the casualties were not human beings?

Humans did die in the run for Christianity it may not be known but the British started by forcing Kings and Chiefs to convert and once they did they made the Leaders force their people to do the same if they didn't comply jail or hanging although this didn't happen to often it still happened however small but yes the Jihad in the north was much worse

huptin:
Tissue of lies, Islam rule over Spain was very short, it didn't even conquer the whole of Spain, Spain had never been a world power either before, during or after Islamic rule.

2. Numerals was introduced by Egypt Years before Islam, Egypt under the Egyptian gods was the cradle of world civilization but Islam took their gods from them and turned Egypt into what it is today

3. Since the advent of Islam it has been war and violence even the brief spell of the only known islamic empire (ottomans?) was filled with violence and bloodshed

4. There has never been a golden age of Islam, it exists only in the imagination of you people, the ottoman empire is fairly recent just about 400 years ago and it didn't witness much development, it was filled with war and violence.

Go and read about Baghdad at it's peak and the golden age of Islam google is your friend.

The numerals we use today were made in India but spread by the Arabs they were a bridge between Asia and the Western World

You're really going to ignore how Spain owned 20% of the world at a time it was once a world superpower also the Islamic Moors did a lot for Spain and if you bothered to use google you'd see why

Islamic radicalization I have no clue of how it started but Islam is not just bloodshed and inshallah as far as I know there's a source of the violence and it isn't always Islam

I am not Muslim I am a Christian who just reads about African Religions and enjoys history

thebosstrevor1:
Your comment is just a revisionist comment.

There is no evidence or historical writeup that clam that the igbos practice democracy.

Babylonia, Egyptians, Ethiopian, greeks and romans all practiced monarchy.

I said the bible was a collection of stories from different cultures including those I mentioned

The Greeks were democratic

Go and read anywhere and you will find out 90% of Igbo groups were democratic only a small minority held monarchies

BKayy:
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And Nigerian Muslims are converts of what?
Same African traditional religion but unlike the West, the Arabs have never owned up to the crime against humanity they carried out on Black people. For example the genetic warfare where they castrate Black slaves before selling them in middle East, which is why it is very rare to see Black remnants of the slaves in middle East although transaharan slave trade was Ten times more than Transatlantic

Actually for the most part the ATR people in the north stayed like that it was only due to trade that they became muslim the Araba said they wouldn't trade if they didn't convert unlike in the Southern parts where it was convert or die this whole overly Islamic radicalization movement in the North only started after the 1800s when Dan Fodio came before then the people in the north lived peacefully with the ATR practicioners with no problem

huptin:
Every other country that adopted it have been doing well apart from Islamic countries, why?

Before the advent of democracy, were islamic countries peaceful?

What other means of government do you suggest? You want change of government to always be violent?

Democracy is actually not a Christian thing, it emanated from the greeks. There is no democracy actually in the Bible.

Islamic countries created modern day Europe, Islam ruled Spain and developed it massively Islam also taught Europe about numerlas, compass, sails and many other useful inventions go and learn about the golden age of islam and all the creations that were made in that time and also which country in Africa or South America or even Asia that is predominantly Christian is succeding? Christianity was used to take advantage of the peoples outside of Europe and now you see how good of a tool it was they are becoming richer and they tell us pray more and things will work out instead of us to learn of our own culture and work harder we're spending half of our money on Church and Christ and hoping jobs fall into our hands

thebosstrevor1:
Sorry sir.

Democracy is a Christian concept, founded on Christian principles. Even in the bible, there are passages backing it up.

So the Igbo in the 14th Century were Christian? When we know very clearly that they were Odinani democracy is not a Christian creation the Greeks created it and they had their own religion heck Christianity didn't even exist when the Greeks were around so how tf did they create it you need to learn the Bible didn't create most of the lessons and stories found within most of them come from Babylonians, Egyptians, Ethiopians, Greeks, Romans etc. Barely any of the stories or figures in the Bible are original ideas so the fact that the Bible backs democracy doesn't mean that they came up with it

orisa37:
THE TYPES OF RESTRUCTURING, ANYONE OF WHICH IS AS SATISFYING AS TO THE OTHERS AND GOOD GENERALLY FOR NIGERIANS ARE:-

1 FULL AUTONOMOUS SIX REGIONS, NW, NE, CS, SW, SE, & SS, WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECOMING FEDERAL LIAISON GOVERNMENT RESPONSIBLE ONLY FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS, MILITARY, ON EQUALITY OF STATES BASIS, AND TREATIES SEALING.

2 FULL AUTONOMOUS EXISTING 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES, WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECOMING FEDERAL LIAISON GOVERNMENT RESPONSIBLE ONLY FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS, MILITARY, ON EQUALITY OF STATES BASIS AND TREATIES SEALING.

3. FULL AUTONOMOUS 42 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES ARRANGED TO GIVE SEVEN STATES TO EACH OF THE ALREADY ASSUMED SIX REGIONS OF THE FEDERATION, WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECOMING FEDERAL LIAISON GOVERNMENT RESPONSIBLE ONLY FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS, MILITARY, ON EQUALITY OF STATES BASIS AND TREATIES SEALING.

IT IS RELEVANT TO ADVISE THAT 2023 WILL BE A PERCEPTIVE ILLUSION, A DECEPTIVE FRAUD, A DELIBERATE GANGSTERISM AND A POSTPONED DOOMSDAY DISASTER, IF ANY OF THE ABOVE 3 TYPES RESTRUCTURES IS NOT POSSESSED BY THE NIGERIAN GRASSROOTS BEFORE 2023.

FROM ORUNTO27: GOD BLESS NIGERIA!!!

Personally I think instead of keeping these geo poltical zones we should have 5 geopolitical zones those being Western, Mid Western, Eastern, Central and Northern although the map needs to be adjusted the Western region should include Kwara and parts of Kogi, the Mid Western should also include parts of Kogi and the Eastern should include parts of Kogi and Benue meanwhile the rest of Kogi, Benue, Niger, Taraba, Plateau, Nasarawa and parts of southern Adamawa would make up thr Central Region the rest would go to the northern region.


The government would get a percentage of the taxes and revenues collected by each region to build federal projects such as major roads, major railways, military and to operate the financial institutions and agencies.

The rest is the job of the states and the regions

thebosstrevor1:
Christians accuse muslims of carrying out Jihads, anyway, the truth is that jihad isn't only a Muslim issue, it is also a Christian issue.

The first jihad ever taken place was carried out by Christians, it is called the crusaders, they killed non believers and forcefully converted them to Christians, those who wouldn't convert were killed.

On the African soil, ths Christians took their jihad to another level, all the Christian nations in the west came together to sell africans into slavery without remorse.

Another Christian jihad was colonization, they saw africans as babarians, people who can't think, had no systems, they sent their armies and administrators then colonized the whole africa, then partitioned it to suit their fantasy. Even one of the Christian kings owned Congo as his property and told his administrators that they cut the hands of people who doesn't reach a certain farming quota in his property.

What is presently going on?

Christian jihad take form in politics, This time they are not spreading christianity but another form of religion called DEMOCRACY, if the heads of various Christian nations do not like a leader of a particular country, they start shouting democracy, if he doesn't listen, they assassinate him, if it not possible, they organized a coup, if that is not possible, they sanction the country, place an economic embargo, make the population of the non believers suffer and then purposely make them revolt by all means until the leader is removed or killed by the non believers.

If the people support their leader, the Christian jihadists will start subverting the nation, placing embargos in important sectors, black mailing the nation through their media, films , music and Various Ngos.

The truth is that the muslim jihadists are just a counter attack to the Christian jihadists in global political battle.

Almost all the whole world have been affected by Christian jihadists, the reality is that the world is in choas because of Christian jihadists, they are everywhere disguise in suits, creating unrest, using economic sanctions as a tool of control, trapping countries through debts, sending armies and mercenaries to destroy a nation, my question is when will it stop?

Everything you said was fine apart from democracy that has nothing to do with Christianity the Igbo practiced democracy before Christianity arrived in Africa and they practiced a traditional African religion called Odinani in any case both Christianity and Islam are dangers to African Culture and Religion and they're both equally jihadists in terms of their effect on the African way of life and beliefs

cocolacec:
Who agrees with me?

Why should we name our airports after someone who destroyed local culture, religion, commerce and industry all in the name of Christianity he was a coon and it's as easy as that if we're to name it after anybody make it Macaulay or Awolowo people who actually helped Nigeria.

theInterpreter:
nigeria has 253 ethnic groups

When did you come to this thread

Rossinkipp:
The USA. The world's biggest debtor nation.

Total debt: 26 TRILLION dollars.

As far as debt is concerned, Nigeria is still learning.

US debt isn't infrastructure debt.

KingOKON:
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Very very good so how do u respond to the below, plz no ethnicity and emotional talk but be sensible and analytical.

What is there in that photo that is of any relevance?

theInterpreter:
are you not Igbo?

my dad is igbo and my mom is yoruba

samuk:
Yoruba like fairytales. They avoid questions that will expose their lies.

The way they run around here, people actually think they were the first to write their Oduduwa story, not knowing that Oduduwa story was first written down for the Yoruba by a Fulani Sultan. Since I exposed this since morning and challenge them to contradict me, the thread has suddenly gone quiet.

TAO11 is seeking permission from abohboy before she can respond, lol, since when did TAO11 seek anyone's permission before she bulldozed her ways into a thread dishing out rubbish let alone, a claim that goes to the very heart of the identity of the Yoruba.

Hopefully Abohboy will not make that kind of mistake next time. Hope this time, him and others have learned.

He was asking permission cause i'm the only sensible and analytical one who doesn't argue with emotions or through ethnicity and on top of that i'm actually willing to learn from arguments not just argue

donmik:
We are happy he did nothing. Of course, it is true.

But we cannot sell our faith and ancestry to Jihadist intimidators.

U are saying this cos u are one of those Fulani jihadists in Nigeria who are ruling the Aso Rock.

Enough of your deceits

Go and look at the topics i've done and look at my posts and see where I sound like a Fulani jihadist

You guys don't realize this fact Ortom is a horrible governor who didn't develop or do anything for his state so now he latches onto the fulani agenda in order to gain popularity and publicity everybody has forgotten how corrupt he was now because he attacked the Fulani people stop letting these evil and corrupt governors gain popularity

Hueman:
Russia messed up a lot and we have to learn from their mistakes even though they had the right idea. China is not perfect but their human rights are greatly exaggerated. They’re not different from a country like japan but that isn’t remotely a good thing. But recently they’ve been getting better because they’re transitioning out of capitalism. For instance the government recently banned private education to ensure that education isn’t a class barrier. I don’t believe they are perfect but they have shown us that a socialist revolution is possible. I can see Nigeria becoming socialist in my lifetime.

Well let's try to learn from their mistakes and make Nigeria as developed as is possible with our current knowledge

hisexcellency34:
Gun carrying party

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Saddamochieng00:
I've not yet come across those ones. It's just that the theme in your movies is so monotonous that people won't be looking forward to the next release because it might be the same as the last one.

You're concentrating on the old and even some new juju related movies or overly religion based action movies which I can agree are horrible but they still cater to a market

Saddamochieng00:
Nollywood is winning in terms of quantity but the quality is lacking. I can't remember the last time I watched a Nigerian show or movie.

On the other hand SA has some really quality productions and that's why your actors are bagging all this awards. The only problem is that your productions appeal to a demographic that's already taken up by Hollywood while Nollywood appeals to the lower class which makes up significant share of the market

Nollywood also has high production look at wedding party, hotel hibiscus, one lagos night etc. I prefer European and American shows but there are still many good Nigerian shows

Hueman:
You have to remember that bourgeois democracy cannot be used for radical change. It’s not the best idea to focus on running for election, you should be focused on creating a movement, that way when you are powerful enough people will back your movement. I don’t want you guys to turn into sowere because he is so obsessed with getting elected and will do anything for power. I will join the movement and I support what you guys are doing. I live abroad so I’ll try to donate my money as much as possible. I can see MOP growing really big and creating the changes Africa needs. Do you guys need help with propaganda posters?

Posters would be amazing but I don't think sowore's problem was elected but ore about being popular and trying to appeal to too many people which took him our of the scene but your help is greatly appreciated in MOP we support all marxist ideologies on any side of the spectrum and I went through some of your posts and I can say I can kind of agreee with communism like in China and Russia but the sensitization of media and abuse of human rights is something I can't agree with

Hueman:
M.O.P needs to prioritize political education in their movement because of misinformation and fighting against fascist. The goal of socialism is to achieve full communism. Being pro socialism and against communism is an oxymoron. Like Thomas sankara said “ Without patriotic political education, a soldier is only a potential criminal.” We need to be careful and not try to create reactionary foot soldiers. If that happens you’ll create movement like IPOB again. That is what happens when your movement isn’t strictly guided by an ideology. Wanting free education and healthcare isn’t enough, I mean that’s what IPOB want Marxism isn't based on Moralism or idealism, you're not a marxist just because you dislike Capitalism or whatever. Marxism is a social science and there are certain foundations and concepts which form the core of marxism that should be studied. If your movement isn’t guided by theory you’ll fall prey towards liberalism. As Marxist, we are scientists and theory are our equations. We have studied and observed our theories in action in the material world. We have demonstrable, repeatable results from the formulas contained within, and many of the processes and functions discussed in theory are things that can accurately be mapped onto existing material conditions to show what to do or where to make changes. Through political education, we can learn from past experience and from theories about how to create the right change. Lenin, Mao, Stalin, and so on read theory. Nobody tries to argue that they could invent new mathematical proofs and design structurally sound bridges without having any education in math other than what they've casually picked up from TV and the internet, and everybody would probably laugh at someone who would, yet tons of people think they can do exactly this with politics. We need to learn from the past to make sense of our current material conditions. In fact our socialism needs to be done in naija characteristic.

I’m happy to hear that MOP has socialist in their party but they need to emphasize it more because it is important for making our movement work. And this thing is more important than participating in bourgeois democracy. We need to build power from the outside so that we can topple our government from the outside. I hope my criticism makes sense, not trying to bash MOP because I still support them.

Communism cannot work in Nigeria, won't be supproted in Nigeria and cannot win elections in Nigeria, socialism is the limit for leadership and if you weren't aware MOP has two missions educate and mobilize every week or two weeks they go into the streets of different Nigerian cities and interview the people and help to mobilize them for MOP and equally every week or other week they hold educational meetings where they invite all Nigerians to learn about socialism, pan africanism, neo colonialism and imperialism and this has been very successful so far I wouldn't call myself a full blown marxist but whatever increases the standard of living of Nigerians I am in support of and socialism seems to be the solution anyways I hope you can join us in this movement and help to spread the word of MOP

TAO11:
Make Sure to Read Every Single Word:

I find that there is a huge gap between you and those from Benin on here. Why is that so? Anyways, I would carry on because you get what I’m saying. Lol.

But before proceeding to address each question you raised, I would point out that the journal you read on jstor is Ryder(1965). I have also read it — many times.

As at the date of his publication, Ryder buttresses his case also with some iconographic arguments.

However such arguments, are by their very nature a tentative one — that is, they fail immediately a next find turns up whatever wasn’t available to him at the time of his writing.

In any case, your approach (which even you may not have noticed) has been that, if A.F.C. Ryder provides information on finds (even without any photos — as there are no photos in the article) then such finds, in your judgement, must be true based on his scholarly and academic integrity. And I agree with that for any scholar and scholarly peer-reviewed work.

But your inconsistency is that if others like (R. Horton, F. Willett, S. P. Blier, etc.) all say that, since 1967, there has been certain finds from Ife, then such — to you — is probably not true unless you see a photo.

At this juncture, you must have gotten the point I am making about inconsistency. You should actually fix it going forward.

In any case, if you had asked for photos just for the sake of photos (to please the eyes, etc. rather than as the evidence in and of itself), that would have been a separate story. Anyways, I have been able to lay my hands on some of such photos. Now to the actual points raised.


Like I noted earlier, the presence of cross symbols in Ife art is NOT fundamental to the identification of the Ogane as Ooni. Why? Because their dispatch was not from Benin to Ife, but the other way round.

However, I agree that the knowledge of such symbols in Ife would bolster the evidence on ground for Ooni as the Ogané — but its absence does not undermine it in any way. I hope you get this.

However, we read from Robin Horton’s work as cited earlier that “we now have several examples of the Maltese-cross symbols on terracotta materials excavated at Ife.*”

And Robin Horton cited the works in which the finds have turned up, viz. Frank Willett’s “New Light on the Ife-Benin Relationship,” African Forum, Vol. 3, No. 4/ Vol. 4, No. 1, 1970., etc.

But for the sake of pleasing your eyes, one of such is attached in the 1st screenshot below. This can be seen in page 183 of Suzanne. P. Blier’s “Art and Risk in Ancient Yoruba (2015)”.

Your suggestion here is based purely on your subjective inclination. It is not rooted in any objectivity whatsoever, and I would explain why.

If you turn your pages of Ryder’s article to p.27., you would find that based on traditional informants it took an average of 5 months for people — in the past — to journey from Uromi in Ishan to Benin city over a course of some 50 miles.

With such information, you must then pause & reason that their trekking convention must thus have been different from whatever you’re imagining at the time of typing that comment.

So, if you start with this traditional information about an Uromi-Benin trip (which as expected incorporates traditional trekking conventions), you will necessarily reach the inevitable conclusion of roughly 20 moons for a Benin-Ife trip.

So, do the Math yourself. Uromi-Ishan and Benin-Ife can not both be a 5 months journey traditionally.

Moreover, the footnote 10 of that same article you read shows the result of a relatively modern-day interview conducted with the Binis by Bradbury during his field-work.

And what they remember of any such ancient trip to Ife as passed down to them by traditions is that it took some 3 years round trip.

Here we have another separate confirmation (a direct one at that) for the timespan mentioned in the source material vis-a-via the Ogané.

No, the article doesn’t say anywhere that they were given cat whisker markings after visiting.

Before clarifying what the article says, I should clarify that there is no mention of cat-whisker at all in any of the source materials we’re looking at (e.g. the one you posted which is the ‘only’ detailed one).

Now, Ryder was simply suggesting (a very logical one) that the messengers to the Ogane from Benin must have been people with the cat’s whisker marks.

His reason for this suggestion makes sense, however he then on the basis of this said that messengers from the Ogane to Benin may have had such marks too. He had no evidence for this second part.

In any case, whether or whether not the messengers from Benin had cat’s whisker marks as suggested by Ryder, that the messengers are from Benin isn’t to be debated. The primary source is clear on that.

As such, his search for such check marks in Ife arts is NOT fundamental to the identification of the Ogane as Ooni whatsoever. The messengers aren’t said to be from Ife.

However, I would readily agree that the knowledge of such marks in classical Ife would bolster the evidence on ground for Ooni as the Ogané — but its absence does not undermine it in any way. I hope you get this.

More so, we read from R. Horton’s work cited earlier that “Again, we now have several examples of the “cat’s-whisker” facial mark on terracotta heads excavated at “classical” Ife sites. And the presence of this mark vitiates yet another [of Ryder’s] argument.*”

And Robin Horton cited the works in which the finds have turned up, viz. Frank Willett’s Ife in the History of West African Sculpture, London 1967., etc.

But for the sake of pleasing your eyes, two of such are attached in the 2nd and 3rd screenshots below.

These can be seen in page 80 of Blier’s “Art in Ancient Ife (2012)”; & page 262 of her “Art and Risk in Ancient Yoruba (2015)” respectively, etc.


A.F.C. Ryder’s tentative statement has been set aside by finds that came to light as seen in the attached.

I understand, and your questions have been answered.

In any case, look again at each of the details given in the primary source and ask (in the light of the evidence here and on page 1) where all (not one/two) is met simultaneously.

Only in Ife and its king, the Ọɣọni (Ọghẹnẹ in Bini from where the Portuguese transcribed as Ogané).

Peace!

Cc: Blakjewelry, macof

Good to see a cross from Ife and yes there is a need for the crosses to be found in Ife because they were made there and given to messengers it would only make sense that where they're given would also be where they're produced if they're not produced in Ife then where were they produced and why is this information not provided?

samuk:
Firstly, you assume that Ogane is a corruption of Oghene.

Secondly, the location doesn't fit. Ogane is east whilst Ooni is west.

Thirdly, the travelling time from Benin to Ife couldn't have been almost 2 years.

Fourthly, the history of Oduduwa/Ife from where Ooni is derived started as a myth in the 1800s, some Yoruba historical accounts even says Oduduwa was a female deity. In early history of the Yoruba as told by the likes of Samuel Johnson, C. C. Law, Oduduwa is heavily conflicting. No evidence that he actually lived as human.

Fifthly, there are no concrete evidence that Benin/Ife relationship goes early than 1897.

Benin history of her relationship with Oduduwa, Oranmiyan and Ife are not in agreement with Yoruba claims.

Benin is claiming Oduduwa as a Benin prince, whilst Yoruba history is either claiming Oduduwa as a Saudi Arabia, Egyptian/middle eastern prince or recently as 2010 a native of Ife.

Oduduwa as an egyptian or middle eastern comes much later in the 1900s Oduduwa as a native of Ife or a God is proper history from the Odu Ifa meanwhile the relationship between Benin and Ife is clear because specific garments and crowns worn in Ife are seen in benin artworks as well and such a link cannot be made without physical contact and trade between the two groups

samuk:
The Ogane story told by the Benin ambassador to the European in 1485 could have been an allegory of the spiritual journey that every new Oba of Benin took.

The bible is filled with such allegories. The story of Job is one of such. I wouldn't be surprised if most Nigerians literally believe the story of job as an event that happened.

That's exactly what I proposed but it seems we will never truly know due to the lack of written documents by Africans and the dying out of traditional culture and history

kikuyu1:
The Original Black Europeans were Catholic. Til today Oberwelingen is MAINLY Catholic.


[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%BCrenlingen/url]

They were originally muslim when they arrived through Spain catholicism came after when they went more inland

KingOKON:
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samuk read this very SWEET NEWS though it is something the world already knows

http://punchng.com/bini-not-yoruba-are-original-owners-of-lagos-ajayi-bembe/

Different parts of Lagos were owned by different people, some parts like Ikorodu were owned by the Ijebu meanwhile other parts like Kuramo were owned by the Bini it is a diverse mix

SlyDev:
Earliest Yoruba lived in the middle belt with nupe and others. Tao have trashed this issue already

Earliest Niger Congo people lived at the Niger Benue Confluence so that includes igbo, Bini, Ijaw all of them their origin is there.