₦airaland Forum

abbey621:
All the countries you mentioned above are not the same, USA does not practice religious government( In fact religion is left out of anything public office related) neither does UK, China, Taiwan. Italy , UAE and saudi are all mono religious countries with over 80% one religion, your comparison does not make sense. You gained representation? So with your representation why are Christians still being killed? You've just highlighted the hypocrisy battling Nigeria. You would rather have someone from your religion that is an inefficient, clueless representation with bad results than to try something else......Yet you still think Buhari na your problem, no pal your problem na your mind!

I would rather have an inefficient Christian mess with my security than get killed by a jihadist.

From your wack and perpetually stup!d analysis, you assumed all Christians are clueless while my fate and livelihood rest on the shoulders of Tinubu.

You better go and open a dollar account right now. I am giving you a secret that will prevent your children from swearing for you tomorrow.

What is about to befall you Tinubu cretins ehn... Anyway, gbo gbo yin lo ma kan!

HilcomTech:
But religion does not matter when you people were campaigning for Peter Obi

Religion is key, reason Peter Obi chose a Northern Muslim.

GoldSantana:
Bringing religion into governance is mediocrity at best. Religion in Nigeria has only done for us division, hatred and underdevelopment.
Religion should be a personal thing; do your work and go home to whoever you worship.

To whom do you address this comment of yours? APC or me?

izuch:
I totally agree with you

Okay, we will come back to this post in 2030.

He has to. After Obi or BAT, power will shift to the north and he would fight to claim it.


Supporting Atiku, a fellow Northerner, is detrimental to his future political ambition.

He knows the game.

oghalebros:
This Christian Christian and Muslim Muslim thing should stop... What we need is development of the country. We don't care from where and who it comes from. Has a christain, what have you benefited from Osinbanjo as your VP?

I benefitted a sense of inclusivity, a sense of tolerance, equity, representation, and association.

They are choosing politics over equity and you're screaming development. You're ignorantly ignorant.

Should Tinubu win the 2023 General Election,

1. Power will return to the North after his tenure (not the South East or the South South).

2. Tinubu will hand power over to a northerner, most likely Shettima.

3. Do not expect a Christian candidate when power shifts to the North in 2030*.

4. The same Tinubu and Northern Governors that could not produce a Northern Christian VP for Tinubu will not wake up tomorrow to give you a Christian from the region to be your president.

In a multi-religious country like Nigeria, is it fair to have another Muslim succeed Tinubu after Buhari's (Muslim) 8 years of religious and ethnic uprising?

As you decide on who to vote in the 2023 presidential election, do not allow anyone deceive you into thinking that religion/region does not matter. It does matter and that is why they could not select someone of different faith for the APC's presidential flagbearer.

For Christians still cheering BAT's ambition, I hope you all are ready to have Shettima as your next president in 2030?

Should BAT, a Southern Muslim wins this election, power would be shifting to the North after his tenure.

Same Northerners that could not give Tinubu a Christian VP will NEVER support a northern Christian to become Nigeria's president.

So while exhibiting your f00lishness, also prepare your mind to have another Muslim rule for 8 years after a combined tenure of Buhari and BAT/Shettima.

...most likely going to meet a fraud...

abbey621:
Like I said before, what have we gained from having a Muslim president and Christian VP? What did we gain from having a Christian president and a Muslim VP?

I gained a sense of belonging, fairness, and representation.

Sensible countries are busy choosing their leaders based on competency but you sheep keep focusing on tribe and religion, WAKE UP!

Sensible countries? Like a Bishop becoming the President of UAE or Saudi Arabia? Or a Muslim becoming the President or even vice president of the USA, the UK, Russia, China, Taiwan, Italy?

Sensible countries are choosing their leaders based on representation, a sense of association and belonging, and competency.

Na you f00lish if you think there are no Christians in a Christian-dominated country like Nigeria that can do the job.

nokspos:
Sir I understand, but you didn’t answer my question. I’m not a fan of tinubu but I envy is seal to succeed. Maybe obasanjo would have been a better president if he chose a credible Christian running mate that year . He fought with atiku all through his tenor. Maybe he had a better running mate in mind but was scared of Christian Christian ticket. This is 2022, let’s keep religion aside and vote individual . I google shitimas profile and it looks like his family are well grounded in the north and the guy him self was a former banker which means he understands Coporate world…. so tinubu is doing all he wants to do to win let’s free him. I’m not a fan and I’m not voting for him. But if you say The people killing Christian are Muslim which I doubt but yet the vp is a lead pastor in redeem ( the biggest church in Nigeria ) and he hasn’t done one single thing or made one single law that favors we the Christian since inception … people will argue that he’s not the one to make law but has he attempted it ? No

If you understand the implication of what Tinubu has just done, you wouldn't post this.

I hope those of you making this claims, especially the southerners, will pull your weight behind a Northern Muslim/Northern Muslim candidacy in the future, because like you said, a Christian like Osibanjo did not do anything?

Buhari wasn't the one that told Fulani terrorists and kidnappers to invade the South and kidnap Catholic and Methodist Bishops. It was his "emergence" that emboldened his association (Fulani/Muslims), not grievances. These people are not fighting for anything. They only saw an association in Buhari and that was enough to wreck the nation. In a sensible and working nation, no muslim should even come out and solicit for any vote after Buhari's 8 years of sorrow and havoc.

We are dealing with human behavior and other related theories here. I hope the Christians from the North and South of Nigeria would not be f00lish in their decision-making come 2023.

abbey621:
What has that balanced representation done for you for the past 7 years? If a Muslim/Christian ticket brought about so much violence and the Christian/Muslim ticket before that brought about so much despair, perhaps it is high time to abandon this illogical religious rhetoric and try a new approach.

What's the worst that can happen? More violence, more despair? In other words , maintaining the status quo, see say una don box una sef into tight corner . Tinubu has done the calculation, a Northern Muslim VP is the only way to compete with atiku in the North and that is all that matters because we all know that is where the game starts and ends!

I hope you will maintain the same position when a Northern candidate decides to choose a Northern VP?

Na like this una foolishness dey start.


Do not destroy your brain and thinking faculty on the altar of Tinubu's presidential ambition. Your kids will mock you.

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UyaiIncomparabl:
The kingdom of God suffereth violence and the violent does what? Complete it.

"taketh it by calming down"

Will northern Muslims allow a Christian-Christian ticket? Bloody insensitive hypocrites!

Totilopussylick:
Obaseki he is the governor.

You can't call Obaseki in this case. Lucky Igbinedion is who to call if it is okay to call Tinubu when Lagos experience flooding in 2022.


Like Tinubu, Lucky Nosakhare Igbinedion and his dad really wrecked Edo state. Lucky and BAT served their states in the same political era.

UyaiIncomparabl:
SMH. Lol. I won't be dignifying fools with my golden response.

Baby girl, it's been you and vawulence for days oo

cococandy:
Young below 25. Preferably 22. Must be financially well to do.

Oh and no sex. Prior sexual activity disqualifies her.
Must be exclusively his but also be willing to be subject to his whims. Be tolerant and obedient when he’s exercising his polygamous rights. No questions.

When he’s done with other women, she’ll use her money to buy laundry detergent and wash their scent off him.

What did I miss?

What's this coco?


22 and financially well to do ke?

pocohantas:
KPMG
DELOITTE
PWC
ERNST & YOUNG
UBA
McKINSEY
SEPLAT

LMAO What's the population of Nigerian women in these companies abeg?

CoolAmbience:
Unlike education, politics is a game of strategic collaboration and numbers. It is a give and take arrangement. You have got to offer something superior to get support, and of course, there are minimum educational requirements to be met. Educational achievements do not necessarily have to be superfluous, when it comes to politics and leadership.

Experience, strength of character, bridge building capacity, finance and track records of performance play a huge role.

You're wasting your time on theoretical analysis. Electoral data can be found on the web. Go online and show me how and where northerners prioritize strategic collaboration, bridge building, or education, over religion.

I'm waiting.

Peter Obi's ADC as governor of Anambra was a Northern Muslim (Mohammed). Please show me a core Northern governor with a southern-christian ADC.

Again, I'm waiting. I need to see how Northerners prioritize competence, strategy, and all these things you mentioned ahead of religion. Same people that voted Buhari massively on a poll with Obasanjo, Goodluck Jonathan? Same people that will still vote Atiku ahead of Asiwaju because the former is obviously more "Islamic" and "religious"?

I don't understand some Nigerians at all. What are you doing in India? What are you people looking for exactly?

CoolAmbience:
WEAC/ JAMB cutoff shouldn't and can't be universal.

Some states and individuals (including countries) are, by certain degrees, more educationally privileged than others, both in the North and in the South.

So, your analogy doesn't fit. Look for something else.

And people from the educationally privileged and, by extension, "woke" states like yours (Anambra) can't win ordinary presidential primary elections, whereas those from the educationally disadvantaged and religiously-primitive regions f00l you to continue to stay "woke and liberal" while they hold on to their primitive electoral habits of voting only people of same faith/region.

I salute your courage and tolerance, sire.

Adetayo1978:
Why are we confusing ourselves with the issue of "Muslim-muslim or Muslim-christian" candidacy? What will need is good leadership irrespective of tribe or religion. Let's give Bola Ahmed Tinubu the chance to take Nigeria to a greater height.

Why should I give Tinubu a chance when northerners did not give him a chance of choosing a northern Christian?

Meanwhile, my previous post is not a direct hate to my southern Muslims but the Truth. It is what it is - Truth. Northern Muslims don't rate you all. Even Tinubu knows this, that's why he needs another Muslim from the North to boost his chances. For how long do you all want to continue to play a second-class role in a religion that is meant to embrace unity? For how long do you all want to continue to play the Slave-Master relationship in your own religion? Don't allow religion f00l you into voting Tinubu.

CoolAmbience:
Religion is supposed to be a lifestyle of purity, love and self-restraint . But for you guys, it is the exact opposite.

Yeah, just like how WAEC/ JAMB cut-off mark is supposed to be universal.

I really pity Nigerian Christians playing the "liberal" and "woke" role in Tinubu's presidential ambition.

If Tinubu and his Muslim vice presidential candidate win this election, they'll spend 8 years and hand over power to another Muslim from the North.

Buhari's 8 years (Muslim) + Tinubu's 8 years (Muslim) + Shettima your next president 8 years (Muslim) = 24 years of Islamic rulership in a country with more Christian population

If Northerners will not give power to a fellow Christian like you, why do you want to hand power over to a minority group in the South?

Northerners are smarter after all. They leave you to play your liberal and woke role while they hold on to their primitive approach to religion, culture, politics, and even education. They leave you all to kill yourselves with JAMB cut-off of 360/400, whereas with their 150/400 cut-off system, they get the best courses and the most juicy government offers.

Many southerners, especially the Christians, are politically senseless!

I'm lost. Define "quality woman".

peacettw:
They should be careful particularly the woman because this social media whoring can only beget sorrows that no songs or bible wielding prowess can solve.

This isnt a case of 'it's not my option'. One should learn from others mistakes. A word is enough for the wise.

Exactly. The social media whoring is getting too much. Too many videos already even though they are not legally married. The guy has been tagging her everywhere on IG with his personal and church handle. Like wtf?!

I also do not trust that man based on personal prejudices. I have a serious phobia (forgive my language) for these young pastors setting up churches everywhere without proper guidance and mentorship.

A so called senior pastor of a church should know better.

opeyy:
You are very correct in saying this, although knowing of others' experiences forces you to reconcile when you experience it yourself. Experience always and forever remains the best teacher. At the time when he decided to leave the marriage, I pleaded with him and reminded him of his initial commitment to his children but whatever the driving force behind him wanting to leave at the time was so strong that he refused to listen to any voice of reason, or give it any thought.

This is serious.

It could be a generational thing.

Although, 6 months after the break up, he came back, wanting us to reconcile, still does but I can't ever go back when I have closed a chapter. He is now overcompensating his regrets with spoiling the kids rotten, that he lets them get away with anything, wanting to have such a close relationship he does not have with his own father. He is lucky that I am his children's mother because I am never, and vehemently against women keeping children away from their fathers so he has free and all access to them.

You have said it all. Closing the chapter may not be in the best interest of the kids but the mental health of the major stakeholders (i.e., the couple) in that institution called marriage must also be prioritised. I don't have all the details to advise anything but I certainly wish you the best and the strength to carry on.

There is a difference between hypocrisy and intolerance. The scene playing out today is not hypocrisy per se but intolerance (or both). A situation where people tolerate the excesses of their brothers but never those from an outsider. Majority of Nigerians are intolerant and trying to pin this on Southern Christians is stupidity.

El Rufai has demolished several mosques in Kaduna without any resistance from various Islamic groups. If Soludo replicates same in Anambra, we all know the reaction to expect from these groups.

The only reason Reno Omkri is crying about this matter is because it affects the Southern people. Can Reno criticize Atiku and the North? Can he? Of course, he won't. Everyone is hypocritical in some ways.

eyinjuege:
500k is really small money that will disappear in the twinkle of an eye.
Don't spend that money yet because you don't know how the labour and delivery will go
You will need the savings more after you give birth and nothing is coming in for the first few months because you're not strong enough to work.
You need to feed, especially since your housemate will not feed you
Please move to your parents house or a relative's house if possible till you can start working
If no relatives to move in with for a short period, just think well about. The man will probably still come find you at your new place once rent is due

Nothing else to add.

opeyy:
Correct. Although I don't have a close relationship with my dad as I do with my mum, I love and respect him especially now that I too have had relationship experiences with men and I know that a marriage is hard work so this makes me understand him more and the resentment I had towards my dad growing up is no longer there but we never had that close bond.

I just hope that men learn from their parents' relationships and do better. I actually married my children's dad knowing that his parents were separated and because of how he said he would never want his children to experience what he did so was hooked by this. Although it never worked out and we're now divorced but he has such an admirable relationship with our children. Just yesterday, my son called him and said he was calling to check on him, I was surprised but I was grateful because I know of men who don't even see their kids, so I am thankful that my children have both of us.

Thought provoking.

Any idea why it never worked out despite his confession and determination to do things differently? It seems it is harder to learn from people's experiences.