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ekt_bear: Which "most countries?"

Did the Soviets rebuild Eastern Germany properly?

Was Germany rebuild after WW1?

The Allies were magnanimous after WW2, in part because they learned lessons from WW1. But this certainly doesn't mean that "most" countries do the same after warfare.

I have problem with folks who uses false analogy to justify their bigoted position.

ekt_bear: Of course


If a certain opinion coincides with the truth (or is closer to the truth), you are saying that it is just as valid as one that is very far away from the truth? This is quite a bold claim.

. . . and whose opinion coincides with the truth? Or better still, give us an account that rates high on your truth-o-meter.

Katsumoto: Hahahaha

Mr Achebe is just being disingenuous, insincere, or naive.

Can you elaborate on your comment?

Chei! How did I miss this thread?

No one has any fvcking right to know the ailment which anyone including Patience is suffering from. Any doctor who divulges such information without prior consent of his patient will have his arsse sued of. Know where to exercise your right. Here is not one of them

. . .and yet another diagnosis from Sahara doctors. These Sahara doctors must be confused.

Eko Atlantic#:
Why military?!

What's so special in evacuating flood victims that Red cross or any other agency appointed to the designated field can't handle?

Pls what do you understand by the word "defence of the country"? Does it only apply to internal or external aggression. Is natural disaster not part of it? Your ignorance knew no bound.

nagoma: Students fighting and killing each other in the same institution may have little to do with the Nigerian union except perhaps good governance bla bla bla .....

How do you know that? Were you part of those who carried out the massacre? Seems as if you have first hand information.

nagoma: The first and the best ever government Nigeria had was Balewa's government. A government of real nationalists and honorable leaders destroyed by savage Igbo murderers. Nigeria has not and will never recover from that genocidal killing by ifeajuna, Nzegwu, okafor and other Igbo evil men hiding under military uniform, our military.

Do you want us to debate about Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and his government?

@Post, I can't believe my eye that some people have romantic view of Abacha 14yrs after his death. Well, I don't blame Nigerians. It is called "Stockholm syndrome" in medical literature. Developing love and sympathy for someone that tormented you in the past. Nigerians are not alone on this. Russians have this feeling for Stalin. Even though he massacred 20 million Soviets.

Ken Saro Wiwa had never impressed me owing partly to his role in abandoned property saga. He personally occupied many buildings owned by Ndigbo. He was a ruthless man who believed in the brutal suppression of opposition in Ogoni. Maybe he got what he deserves. I don't share this romantic view of him. Inasmuch as I don't like Ken Saro Wiwa, I am against his execution by Abacha. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
Abacha was a half-educated blood-thirsty, corrupt criminal who tolerates no dissent from his countrymen. I wont be surprised if Obasanjo, Yar Adua or Jonathan recieves accolades 10yrs from now.

That guy with a gaping wound on his skull must be either matcheted or axed. I can't believe that the injury was inflicted with a high calibre rifle. His entire brain tissue was extruded from his skul. What a gory sight. It's a pity that some young and promising men have to give their life for one Nigeria. How many lives will be shed before we pack up this union?

floriana: Our incoming president 'Dr' Orji Uzor Kalu. Your Excellency sir! Lol

Why 'Dr' in 'parenthesis'? Are you trying to say that he bought his?

Bayelsa state which is predominantly populated by Ijaw people will in fact insult the sensibility of their fellow Nigerdeltans like, the Ogonis, Itsekiris, etc who suffered a great deal under Abacha's dictatorship. What a good start for the Nigerdelta republic! Ijaws are incredibly shortsighted. It takes a little handout to win them over.

Ganys: Sharaaaaap!!! Compare Abacha with ur current President that Kills Nigerian Masses on Per seconds Per seconds Billing with his Unfriendly Economic Policies

May leprosy amputate your fingers! How dare you compare a blood-thirsty maximum dictator with a civilian president? You must be breasfeeding when Abacha's hitmen rode roughshod over Nigerians.

If Abacha is still the president; Edwin Clark, Asari Dokubo, Tom Ateke, Government Tompolo will be rotting in grave.

Abagworo: Abacha remains the most Niger Delta friendly President in Nigeria's history. He would have made the Niger Delta a Dubai of sorts if he was alive. He had Northerners and Westerners as enemies because he chose to do the right thing. Many of us condemning him are not aware of politics that went on that period. He did not annul June 12 but they blackmailed him and Yorubas started fighting him like he was the guilty one while they remained friends with IBB.

Oh yes my brother! The most friendly Nigerdelta president indeed. He demonstrated his friendship by

1. Putting Ken Saro Wiwa and his henchmen through the rope.

2. Permiting Shell and other multinational companies to exploit and destroy Nigerdeltans and their environment with impunity.

3. Impoverishing the Nigerdelta region and reducing them to beggars in their own land.

4. Transforming a village called Abuja to a modern metropolitan city with money from Nigerdelta.

5. Looting the wealth from Nigerdelta with impunity and stacking it in his Swiss Bank.

6. Need I say more?

D sage: I don't think you read my post well. I meant the percentage of graduates that secured a suitable jobs each year,was not up to 20% and not the other way round please.

Noted
Pls forgive my mix-up.

Venchy: Oh boy, your comment is soooooo annoying and you me feel sick, vocational studies and setting up business my Ass.

You need to come down from your high Horse to see what an ordinary people are going through.

I'm sure you are one of those IDIOT that lives at VI OR LEKKI and the place is the airport, when your life revolve like this, plssssss tell me how you'll understand life at Yaba, Mushin or many more poor area in Lagos.

I'm not surprise at all lots of people say shitty things like this without having an idea.

My brother have his own business but the epileptic electricity caused by you and your VARGABON IN POWER since the white man left the country.


Pls take stock of all the progress made by this criminal and tell where we are since 52 yrs ago?

Thank you! You made a good point there. This is why I commented earlier that it is the job of the government to provide an enabling environment for job creation. Those "enabling environments" are:

1. Electricity

2. Water

3. Good access roads

4. Good Healthcare facilities

5. Security

6. Etc

So far, the government is failing in its responsibility. Thereby frustrating the job creation efforts of Nigerians.

pDude: Guy u nor try o. So after all the book him done read, make him come dey do mechanic and vulcanizer work abi Choi! See shot

You see the problem with the mentality of Nigerians. Most of the rich people I know started from a humble beginning. My uncle did an apprentice job as a roadside mechanic for 6yrs. He later studied Mechanical Engineering in IMT, Enugu. He is still a "mechanic" to this day. Rich and fulfilled in his job. No rich man has pride mentality. Only politicians, musicians, and Nollywood actors and actresses have pride mentality. Ofcourse, their wealth is never sustained. Most live above their means and goes broke when event takes a bad course. Pls change your mentality.

monosetale: Its probably like 60%- the problem is mainly us the youths, they don't want to do "dirty" jobs- like a guy we served(NYSC) together last year. He was a very skilled barber. And I advised him to set up a high end barbing saloon in lagos or ibadan where he stays after service W̶̲̥̅̊i̶̲̅Τ̲̅ђ about 150k he had gathered from INEC/allowi payments since his family was poor, pointing to him the fact that being §ø Ǧ☺☺ϑ at barbing clients could easily pay him say 300-400 naira W̶̲̥̅̊i̶̲̅Τ̲̅ђ him making thousands daily. He said he's heard and we parted ways after service only for him to send ♍e messages to help him to find work and crap.

This is the problem with some of our graduates. They say that pride comes before a fall. Some of them are so lost in their superiority complex that they can't bend down to do menial jobs. But I'm amazed that the same folk will readily accept worse jobs when he eventually travels to Europe. I may excuse them on financial ground.
Some of them that mellowed themselves down to do those "undignified" jobs are smiling to the bank. My friend repairs phone when we were in the university. He used the money accrued from his business to train himself and his brother. He never took one naira from his parents during his stay in the university. He continued with the job during and after NYSC. His uncle secured a job for him at First Bank immediately after service with a starting salary of N80,000, but he turned down the job because he makes an excess of N180,000/month from his craft. He is presently doing well.
My other friend is a skilled barber. He packaged himself so well that customers don't bat an eyelid when he tells them to pay N400 for his service. He makes atleast N6000 per day from his job.
Nigerians should learn to use their brain and think of what they can do. They should not always wait on the government to provide job from them. They should explore their God given talents. They should be enterprising. I applaud some Igbos for excelling in this area. Nigerians should copy from them. Government job is to create an enabling environment for jobs creation. Government don't provide jobs.

D sage: Though it's difficult to ascertain the rate of unemployment in this country, but in my own view it won't up to 20% of entire graduates that secured a suitable jobs each year.

Something must be definitely wrong with your brain for boldly declaring that it wont be up to 20%. Unemployment in Nigeria far exceeds 20% figure. The problem is that the economic indicators in Nigeria are unreliable because of faulty data gathering. If you include the underemployment figure, it may approach or exceed 70%. The minimum salary for federal workers in Nigeria is N18,000, but preponderance of Nigerians in the private sector earns less than N15,00 per month. So there is a very high rate of unemployment in Nigeria which goes unreported

ademlabi: 1.450m for 2004 amry.

Thanks for your response. What I need is 2004 Toyota AVALON XLE not toyota camry. Pls can I get an "American spec." with low or moderate mileage. You know, I need something good. A ride that I can trust and enjoy

Any SNC in which government declares the unity of Nigeria non-negotiable is a non-starter. No need to convene such conference charade.

Nothing was said about

1. How the representatives of ethnic nationalities will be selected?

2. The issues to be discussed

3. Is their resolution binding on the government?

Government should not waste their time with another Obasanjo style charade. They are in for a big surprise if they think that they will play on the sensibility of Nigerians.

T9ksy: Can you provide proof for that part of your assertions, bolded above?

Do you really want me to respond to your rhetorical question? Have you ever wondered "how Lagos was built"?

emmatok: I will advice to read up Lagos history before independent.
When AWO was busy developing the Western religion you igbos where busy fighting wars.
We have the picture of the classic old lagos here on NAIRALAND.
Anybody can digg it up .

Do you mean "region"? If yes, can you be specific? Do you mean Ibadan or Lagos. Ibadan was the administrative seat of western region. It is more or less a hell-hole with rusty roofs and makeshift structures. While Lagos was the Federal Capital, which was the seat of the supreme ruler of Nigeria. It was developed with the money accrued from every corner of the country.

Hello folks! I've been busy this week. Not particularly active here. My cousin uses my handle to post on this forum too. That explains my pseudo-activity here. I will attend to all your enquiries during the week. Keep it coming.

Hello folks! I've been busy this week. Not particularly active here. My cousin uses my handle to post on this forum too. That explains my pseudo-activity here. I will attend to all your enquiries during the week. Keep it coming.

PointB: And if we follow that to a logical conclusion, the population of Lagos State, to all independent observers, is well in excess of the population of Kano and if they had been about the same some years back, after Jigawa State was created out of Kano, it would be surprising that the population figures are still about the same,” Ekwueme said.

Need I say more?
Only a blind man will agree that the population of Kano is more than that of Lagos. Do we still need any other evidence to prove that the census figure is manipulated? I've been to Kano and Lagos. The population of Kano is not remotely close to that of Lagos. Even after creating Jigawa from the old Kano state; its population remained the same. They should tell that story to the marines.

naptu2: Ugh! This would mean I'll have to quote all my posts on this subject (hint: one is voluntary, the other isn't). Anyway, I will, cos it's worth it.

So picking Nigerians at random on the streets; packing them inside a lorry and "deporting/returning" them to another location in the dead of the night fits your definition of "voluntary"? The more you defend this shameful indefensible action, the more you sound silly.

strangest: If Fashola actually did something like that, then why is he denying it?

Thank you! You see eh, I have problem with sissies. I don't know why Fashola failed to man-up and claim responsibility for his action. I hate anyone that plays hide-n-seek.

Andre Uweh: Your continous usage of Igbos in this thread is wrong. The plural form of Igbo is NdiIgbo (Ndigbo. You may also use Igbo people or the Igbo as plural. The Igbos is wrong just as a people from England are called the English not Englands or Englishs.
Ibo===wrong.
Igbos==wrong
Ndigbo===correct.

Noted
I made that mistake on several occasions, but thanks for the correction.

naptu2: Finally! I said it on the other thread (going to search for the post) why the emphasis on Fashola?

1) The law was enacted in 2003 (before Fashola became governor).

2) It has not been proven that people were "deported" as opposed to being returned.

3) Fashola would probably not know about each individual case because there are agencies that handle these cases (in the same way he wouldn't know about each case that lastma handles, or about each person that is prosecuted under Lagos State laws).

Another shameless hypocrite is trying to spin the shameful action with English. Pls what is the difference between "deported" and "returned"?