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my2cents:
Afam,

If you recall, there was a time I would link the AKSG website as a perfect example of lack of testing (in particular, I would always say the site looked horrible when viewed in FF and you would always say words to the effect of, "not again".

That's what I meant. I just can't help referencing those 2 sites as examples of what not to do flash-wise

Ok, I think say you been dey accuse me of flashterbation as I dey hardly use am for sites wey I dey develop.

The good news is that the average Nigerian is very religious but very ungodly so I am not surprised at the type of nonsense people write here and quoting scriptures they don't even understand.

Why even catch criminals? Why judge them? Why don't leave God to judge the armed robber and lets leave them to go ahead and do what they want to do?

What happened to the website before?

my2cents:
As you have said, "a little flash aint bad". I would like to emphasize, "a little". In fact, having flash on a site isn't bad at all. The problem is in the abuse of flash (or as prodgalson has aptly called it, "flashterbation". If you go through my portfolio page, I do have a site where I used it, "a little" per client request. If a client wants it, I will use it, but only, "a little", so as to draw attention to something. I wouldn't have it all over the place and/or repeat the animation so many times [b](ala, and sorry Afam ) [/b]http://www.akwaibomstategov.com or http://www.unionbankng.com/ that in the end, people like me would end up nauseated.

I never use flash and there is a difference between a banner ad and flash abuse so I don't even know what my name is doing on a comment concerning flash abuse.

seggzy:
i learnt that after the proclamation that baba would die .baba rushed to baba Adeboye who through the help of God broke the curse.WHY ARE IN HASTE TO CONDEMN MAN OF GOD.I PITY YOU PPLE.TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED,

And here goes the most ridiculous response on this thread, so OBJ was cursed.

@naijaking1,

Thanks, honestly, I worry too much whenever I come across anyone that finds it difficult to accept mistakes, such a person will do anything to cover such mistakes and it is a dangerous thing. No one is perfect and we should be bold enough to accept responsibilities of our actions whether right or wrong.

@Bankole01,

Me sef I tire for this NIN vs NID war, even sef another one don come UN with different versions - UNIN and UNID.

My main worry today in Nigeria is that the average person whether in office or out of office find it difficult to say things as they are, this might appear as a small issue but herein lies the major problem.

How can you solve a problem many do not even agree exist in the first place?

Of course the government is made up of the same Nigerians, same thinking, same style and with these facts can we really hope to see the eldorado in our time?

I hope you are not one of those complaining about the situation of things in Nigeria because we can as well believe that we should not complain and leave god to decide whether things are bad or not, rubbish.

If the AC thinks this is what it takes to be an effective opposition party then it is sad because if they continue to challenge everything (regardless of the correctness or otherwise) they may end up becoming irrelevant in the next general elections.

God cannot lie, anything God says must come to pass so anyone that is trying to make God a liar must be exposed, enough of this blind support.

Is Rev King not God's anointed? If negative, why?

PTH:
Grow up buddy, this is an anonymous forum for debate not a place for immature wimps to go searching for non-existent "meaningless premises" and snooping around for misinformation. Sorry but i wont be joining you in turning this thread into another "misinformation" hunt.

If you can't knuckle down and see issues without using the prism of iindividual bias then have fun on your own.

When someone lies about something and it is pointed out with evidence the only sensible thing to do is acknowledge the lie and apologise to the people he/she is trying to mislead not playing with words and wasting peoples time.

The main issue in the article is the inability of Nigerians to accept their mistakes and in you we are seeing a typical example.

Accepting your mistake won't kill you, it is not a criminal offense? Or, is lying something you can't do without?

PTH:
do credibility a favour, pay better attention to the issues rather than choosing to latch unto my every statement. Where are the meaningless premises you talk about? mention them and we can carry this debate on from there as mature minds rather than mindless bickering over nothing. Whether you are right or wrong, it makes no difference to me.

Sorry, won't be going that route with you.

If you cannot see the meaningless premises then chances are that you won't see them even if I reproduced them one after the other.

And who is talking about my being right or wrong making a difference to you?

Try to attend to the misinformation you tried to sell at https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-72546.32.html.

Thanks. Decided to build mine as against getting one from the likes of to guarantee maximum flexibility in what I want.

Imani:
Haba, Oga afam, that was harsh. Chidichris only brought in another dimension to your original post. [s]Except you guys have previous issues[/s]

Why is everyone spoiling for a fight on nairaland these days?

@Imani,

Abeg, my name na Afam, leave the oga part I take Jehovah beg you

O yes, we have past issues. Nobody is spoiling for a fight, at least not with this guy.

And to be honest I cannot stand his posts, finds it difficult to understand issues and yet will use that as a basis to insult others.

See the first few lines of the post I responded to and you will see where I am coming from.

If he is wondering if the article was written by Afam after all the correspondences thus far why should I bother taking such an individual serious.

@PTH,

You have chosen to agree with what is convenient for you and for the wrong conclusions based on meaningless premises I guess you don't see anything wrong there, abi?

@chidichris,

Work on your diction, it is terrible, you don't make sense.

You find it supremely difficult to understand issues and it is affecting you seriously.

Do have a lovely weekend.

This is sad but true.

Meanwhile, having under construction pages is not a good idea. Publish and link to content that is ready.

Again, the ability of the web developer to insist on the right thing is yet another issue.

PTH:
Tell me how can you develop when companies run on generators? How many people can afford to buy fuel everyday? [b]Afam makes the point that he uses gen sets everyday for at least 2 hrs, [/b]what productive and prosperous nation have you seen where the entire citizenry depend on generators?

The content in bold refers, where did you get that from?

I do not want to start disproving every mistake you make on my clear post but this one is one mistake too many.

Read my post again and ask me to clarify anything you don't understand abeg.

It seems that a lot of companies are getting into the world of e-business.

Let us also hope that they understand the dynamics and while being optimistic should remain realists as regards expectations.

Guy, you need to be more specific as rightly pointed out by nduaj.

olanajim:
We need to examine the way prophesies work before making judgement.

I think the man said someone we don't know would become president. He was emphatic that Atiku and all of those jostling for the presidency would not win. He added a degree of caution.

Nobody had asked him when he saw the vision. It may be before the primaries. If that is the case, then he was correct to a large extent. We all know Yar'adua is not a top contender at that moment. He was a product of last minute schemings. Again, what we have was not an election, we all know.

I am not a pastor and I do not carry prophecies by I knew (and every serious Nigerian too) that Yar'adua would win the last elections simply because he was PDP's candidate.

How can you tell us that the statement that someone we don't know would be the president? Is Yar'adua from Mars?

Unfortunately, many have stopped thinking with their brains and would rather believe anything they hear from anyone they believe.

Yes, God said we should test all spirits and in my opinion those who use the name of God to lie and make money should be exposed.

Yes, God said we should touch not His anointed but again who is God's anointed? Rev King? Gurumaharaji? Bakare? TB Joshua?

Little wonder God stated that many would come in His name even in all sense of falsehood.

While accusing Chtxa of intolerance many that have criticized him on this thread are equally guilty of the same intolerance.

I share Chxta's views as regards our attitude as a people. The government is not the building we see, it is made up of people, Nigerians just like the younger generation will take over from the people there today sometime in the future.

I am trying so hard not to use harsh words here since I have noticed that quite a good number of Nigerians both within and outside Nigeria really want the best for this country even though strategies, opinions and suggestions may differ.

On government's role

If the government refuses to provide power for me the way it should what options do I have? Stay without power or look for ways to generate one? Today, in Nigeria I use steady power whether in the office or at home and I do not use a generator in the office but have one at home that I may use for a couple of hours once in 1 or 2 weeks.

With this I am more productive, don't waste money on fuel so that means I can channel the money into other useful things.

In the US is every home connected to the grid? Certainly no.

Job creation

Is it the duty of government to provide jobs for the masses? In my opinion no but it should provide an enabling environment for business to strive.

Again, in the US how many people work for the government? What percentage?

Citing Chxta's example with the elevator, attitude to life made him take time to contact the people responsible. If he chose to ignore the issue (like most of us will in Nigeria) the elevator may not be repaired on time and that's it.

I disagree with the position that the US was neither colonized nor developed by outsiders because not only did the Europeans massacre the native indians to seize their lands they fought bitter wars with Mexico in the South and Canada in the North all in the bid to expand.

After they grabbed as much land as they could they headed to Africa to bring/buy slaves to work (and in the process develop america) there. Put differently, Africa was robbed of its manpower by the US so the issue of looking at Africa as a continent without direction is somewhat overrated.

While the likes of Nigeria, Iraq, Pakistan are referenced to show that colonies don't make progress what about Malaysia or Philipines, India, Australia (even with the massacre of the aborigines before claiming their lands)?

So, while we may have different views on ways to make Nigeria a better country we should restrict what we say to facts on ground and leave out the personal touch which ends up derailing the thread.

Why will someone accuse Chxta of hypocrisy simply because he is outside Nigeria? But we are being reminded that all Nigerians whether outside or within have the rights to discuss Nigeria and its problems.

I have not seen a reason to label him a hypocrite, his write up may not touch on the most important factors, let others add to what he has put down while disagreeing with some but to write off or dismiss his article completely to me sees counter productive and negative.

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Thanks for the update, at least one can reference the governor when challenging the police on indecent dressing arrest even though I strongly believe that the way our women dress these days leaves very very little to be imagined as regards what they effortlessly show abi na advertise to the public.

The title of this thread is misleading and it is not fair.

How can this

tundewoods:

I stumbled upon this interesting piece of information yesterday night while watching news on Lagos Television (LTV). Gov.Babatunde Fashola categorically denied claims that he had instructed police in Lagos state to carry out the ridicoulous act of arresting people on grounds of indecent dressing.

This lays to rest a previous thread started on Nairaland that stated that Fashola was behind the scourge of arrest base on indecent dressing.I guess this proves that Fashola was not even away of this new arrest trend adopted by the police.

equate to the title of this thread?

tundewoods:
Well i just hope Gov. Fashola will go a step futher and tell folks to resist police intimidation in totality. How on earth can a police stop an innocent citizen gently walking along a lagos sub urb nad request to search him even to the point of checking the content of his or her phone.Total Crap !!!

Gov. Fashola's resistance call is a right step in the right direction.

Can we see any reference to Fashola's call for resisting arrest lest innocent Lagosians are gunned down in the process based on what they may believe the governor said?

While we do all we can to fight injustices in the land we must remember to state things as they are.

The funny thing is that these days you never know who you are dealing with as one person could as well be using up to 5 different IDs on this forum.

Naija I hail thee.

Those re-registering should at least attach the old name to the new one so we can understand so that it doesn't look like someone is trying to play games or deceive.

McKren:
Afam

You tackled me the other day for saying one get's tempted to think sometimes that Nigeria is hopeless.

The title of this thread does not suggest anything different from a feeling of hopelessness.

My response to you was based on my mistake when I thought you meant useless which you later highlighted.

My article seeks to highlight the problems we have as a people, after all people make up the government.

When Mr A will rather fight and curse than accept a clear mistake it sends a very dangerous signal and that is why I wondered if our leaders have not been doing the same thing, living in denial refusing to accept their mistakes etc.

So, I do not believe that Nigeria is even hopeless, rather I think that we are all responsible for any short comings we see in this country based on our own attitudes.

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Is the #2 meant for Atiku? If yes, why would Atiku get 100% more money than OBJ?

Make we hear word joo.

These companies rarely write their own codes, they simply buy software for billing and call management from companies outside Nigeria.

A situation where a pastor says "every one of you will ride a jeep this year" and members will answer amen and claim it even when many of them do not have jobs is bad.

You can live and sleep in the church everyday, without working you will only beg to eat, even the bible makes it clear.

Blind support and sometimes total agreement with everything a pastor says by his church members is on the increase with the average church goer preferring to tell you what his pastor says as against what the bible says.

Bakare misfired and it is a shame that you have people that still attempt to explain away very dangerous mistakes.

While we are still on Bakare, let us not forget Chris Okotie who claimed that God annointed him to rule Nigeria first in 2003 elections and then the last one held in 2007.

Are Nigerians so gullible that they cannot think with their heads again?

Little wonder Rev King was doing all he was doing and his members were more or less worshipping him.

Mamajama:
shango your argument is baseless and shallow as a deep sea.

I don see wetin I go add for my growing list of nairaland brand of words and phrases

I agree that the market is larger but I am sure they would have considered the same thing here if the government stops patronizing them.

Based on sheer volume of software licenses alone (by government of course) Microsoft makes enough money not to give serious thought to the issue of piracy in Nigeria.

Maybe the day the government stops patronizing them things may change.

It was reported that Microsoft has agreed to crash the price of Vista in China. This I believe is not the issue. If it makes economic sense for both China and Microsoft to do this why can't Nigeria ask for the same lower pricing for Vista or are all Nigerians too rich that it doesn't really matter?

Some years ago Microsoft did the same thing, crashed the price of Microsoft Office suite which retailed at about $300.00 to just about $30.00 in China.

What is China doing that Nigeria is not doing to get such much needed discounts?

BEIJING -- Microsoft Corp. slashed the price on its Windows Vista operating system in China by more than half, in a bid to lure buyers away from pirated versions of the software.
Beginning Aug. 1, Microsoft cut the retail price for its ,
From Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118613160493287207.html?mod=technology_main_whats_news)

Even in the US, there is a strong government policy concerning the use of Open Source Software as a first alternative when considering software for government funded projects.

Some countries have given complete backing to Open Source Software as a reasonable and viable alternative to expensive proprietary counterparts.

So, with the gradual (albeit slow) growth in the area of ICT in Nigeria isn't it time for the government to take a proactive approach towards reducing the prices of Software especially for government agencies since the option of asking government establishments to switch to Open Source Software for now based on the level of usage and support in Nigeria today for Open Source Software won't be a very appealing option?

While the battle will continue to rage between the proponents of the 2 software movements one cannot fail to state that the government (especially as Nigeria is a developing nation) has a lot of role to play concerning the direction the nation's ICT policy will take.

Development in the area of ICT cannot begin and end in seminar rooms, news conferences and on the pages of newspapers?

An integrated, people oriented and practical approach to using technology to solve problems must be looked into. Policy formulation and implementation with measurable parameters and indices should be the preferred way of using ICT to develop Nigeria.

We may be under estimating the importance of a vibrant software manpower in Nigeria. Apart from creating jobs for young and intelligent Nigerians it offers a real opportunity to transform lives and the general standard of living.

These days DSP (Digital Signal Processing) based technologies enable one to design and develop digital cameras, access control machines, inverters, TVs, communication equipment etc. The bulk of the work is being done at the software layer today at the same time reducing component count at the manufacturer end since most chip makers these days integrate a lot of control features in the digital form as against analog form in virtually all their embedded solutions.

Lest one forgets the subject of this article the government of Nigeria through its relevant ICT agency should as a matter of urgency explore and exploit ways to get a better deal from major Software and indeed Hardware vendors in all area of ICT while encouraging Nigerians to step up their efforts in the area of ICT.

Nigeria cannot develop technologically if the focus on ICT today is based on computerizing government agencies alone. A computer will not turn an inefficient worker into an efficient one but a computer can make a dishonest perform commit fraud faster and easily.

Public schools should have computer labs, access to the internet must be made cheaper and access to software must be looked into to reduce the cost of getting them unless the current trend of buying and using pirated software is cool with the government and the vendors for that matter.

However, most pirated software will not come with the much needed support from the vendor should problems arise and believe me they do in reality. Funny enough Microsoft is slashing the price in its effort to fight piracy in China. Is it that Microsoft has not heard that there is piracy of its products in Nigeria too?

On a final note, Software development and sales do not end with the banking, insurance and manufacturing sectors as it seems that most indigenous Software developers are only focusing on these areas.

There is indeed a much greater promise in the area where many are not looking at for now, the common man. Anyone that can develop a software that the average man on the street will need and indeed use will become the next big thing in Nigeria.

But until tools to develop solutions that can make this happen are made accessible to those who require the tools nothing tangible can be achieved.

As old as 2003 but guess the article still makes sense

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Maybe you own an established business, or maybe you own a “new” business, or starting a business for yourself. If you belong to any of the groups this question may or may not have crossed your mind, “Do I need a web site for my business?”

Web sites, are they necessary?
This article seeks to help you make that decision. Notice that I didn’t say this article seeks to answer that question for you. If you own a business or are thinking of starting a business, you’re an intelligent individual, perfectly capable of making that decision for yourself. I’ll just present you with some information, objections and opinion and let you draw your own conclusion.

First, let’s look at a couple of the most common reasons business owners think they may not need a web site. These are real objections from business owners with whom I have spoken concerning a web site for their business. For your business’ sake, I certainly hope not, but maybe you think the same thing:

One, we don’t have a computer and don’t have Internet access at my business. So we don’t need a web site. Please don’t take offence, but a web site is not for you to sit in your office and look at thinking, “this site is beautiful”.

A web site is for your customers or potential customers to learn about you, your business and what products and/or services you provide. It’s an opportunity for you to inform your customers, bring in new customers and most importantly an opportunity for you to increase your business’ bottom line. After all, making money is your business bottom line and that is why you are in business and nothing more.

Second, we’ve been in business for many years and have never advertised. We’ve always depended on “word of mouth”. Well, I hail you very seriously. If you can say this and I only hope your good fortune continues. But let’s face facts. We live in a rapidly changing world. Competition is getting hotter and hotter by the day. There is also population explosion with influx of people from rural to urban areas in their hundreds on daily basis. Due to an ever-growing increase in population, population moves from one end of the country to the other, at any given time, for a multitude of reasons.

While word of mouth has always been, and I’m sure will always be the best form of advertising, how about the families that just moved into your neighborhood and haven’t made any friends yet but they have Internet access. They don’t have the resource that people that have lived there for 30 years do. Isn’t that a missed opportunity?

Third, Nigeria is not yet ripe for that kind of thing. Each time I sought to know exactly what Nigeria isn’t yet ripe for I meet a blank wall. This is sad because in every street cyber cafes are springing up. We all make use of the Internet either to send and receive emails, browse for information or as is becoming common with secondary school students watch nude girls on the Net much to the indifference of the cyber café owners who depend on such regular customers to survive.

Outside Nigeria, the main benefit of Internet apart for education is business: e-commerce. Countries look at the Internet as it relates to their citizens in terms of money generated and employment opportunities created. Billions of dollars are made on online shopping and there is more than enough millions of naira to be made even as I am writing this. I am not talking about business opportunities here because business opportunities remain what they are called, opportunities. It won’t make you rich. Only one person will be making money on business opportunities and that person is the very person selling the opportunity to you and is indeed happy that you do not understand how the Internet works. You may begin to see why education is important here.

Four, I have also met honest business owners who would admit they would very much like to get websites for their businesses but don’t know how to go about it. Unfortunately again, some that have risked going online have had sad stories to tell. For some reasons, their web sites won’t come up even after paying the web designer. Some web designers will register a domain name and stop there probably having problems with opening an account with a good hosting company outside Nigeria. This has happened to some established businesses in Nigeria that list their website addresses on advertisement even when such web sites are not functional. And the result, you see a web site address, you type the address and you are told that such web site don’t exist. The beginning of another sad experience and who knows, word of mouth condemnation this time around is even the more powerful businesses nursing the idea of getting web sites retrace their steps.

You’ve read the objections and opinions. Here’s the information:

Firstly, all over the world generally speaking, established companies have web sites and I believe that means one thing; owning web sites is a plus and beneficial otherwise they won’t bother. The good news and the blunt truth is that small and medium scale businesses stands a better chance of making money through their web sites when compared to the big companies.

Secondly, have your ever bothered to estimate the cost of running your business 24 hours a day, 7 days a week in terms of electricity bills, extra staff, over time salaries, security concerns, among others? Attempt to do that estimate and compare it with having a web site. A web site actually opens your whole business to the public 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Whether you want to see directly or not is another topic altogether that requires it’s own critical analysis for us to understand the issues at stake.

Thirdly, I have saved time, energy and money simply by having a website. How? You may ask. At least 80% of calls and emails I receive actually seek for information that are already on website and all I do is give out the website address to go check out the answers to most of the questions they may have. Without having a website you can imagine the time, the energy and money that will be wasted trying to repeat the same thing to so many people everyday.

Fourthly, according to the US Department of Commerce, Internet traffic doubles every 100 days. In the year 2000, there were approximately 102 million Internet users in the US alone. Today, 70% of America is on the Internet. In 1994 the entire Internet economy was $5 billion, in 1998 that same figure was $301 billion, and Forrester Research predicted that that figure would be $3.1 trillion by 2003.Well 2003 is almost over, and the latest statistics available at the time of writing show this to be a reasonable expectation. 65% of people in America (maybe less than 1% in Nigeria) that are on the Internet make their buying decisions online… there are more people that access the Internet when they’re looking to buy products and services than there are that pick up the yellow pages to search for addresses. This means that internet users these days don’t just go to check for business addresses, they actually hope to see business websites where they can actually buy what they need sometimes from the comfort of their homes, offices and cyber cafes after the day’s activities.

You might be thinking; this last point that referenced US statistics don’t really relate to us but to the US. Well, since we have refused to take the leading role let us at least not lag behind indefinitely for the sake of pride. For example, Nigerians are busy buying used and outdated laptops (some current and very useful and basic software programs can’t even run on them) when the current trend is getting wireless enabled laptops that you can use even in your car or in any coffee shop and be connected to the internet without any wires, just your wireless enabled laptop.

Now, I ask you, does your business need a web site?

There are many qualified web designers that are quite capable of developing a cost effective, appealing and functional web site for your business. You can find them on the pages of newspapers advertising their skills or you can look for some of them on the web. Some web designers actually design business websites and deliver them to you even before you deliver a single naira. Good luck with your business!

@TayoD,

That was good and you have raised some issues that have come up quite often these days.

What can we do?

In my opinion the average Nigerian is too selfish to attempt to effect changes unless he/she sees personal and immediate rewards and this is a huge obstacle to any meaningful push for positive change.

Aside from that one thing we as a people must learn to downplay is tribe or ethnicity.

The idea of one's idea being dismissed simply because he is from say Yoruba or Igbo is not helping us.

For starters, can we begin to scorn and shame these bad leaders or must we continue to celebrate them?