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ono:
What I want now is an unreserved apology from these set of people for all of their hate words against me and my people:

1. Afam
2. McKren
3. Babyosisi
4. Planner
5. Xris74
6. RichyBlack
7. Donzman

Until then, these people are in my black book.

But, on a second thought, I'll like to single out babyosisi for some personal talk on my YIM - if she cares to join me.

It seems that you are now mad. Mad because I cannot remember exchanging words with you even when you easily state that the likes of Afam did this and that.

If you want me to apologize to you because I stated that you are spreading hatred towards the Igbos then you should go for a medical check-up.

I have tolerated some bad comments from you and I decided not to even bother since I dismissed yo as someone that hates the Igbos with no reason. Do not take my silence to mean stupidity.

@tundewoods,

Bragging? Boasting?

If you see my posts as such feel very free.

I do not design websites for N4k but anyone that wants to do so can design them for N4k and that does not make that person a kid or a hungry man, that is my point.

To begin with, I say no to a lot of clients because they claim my charges are on the high side and I know why I charge what I charge.

But to insult people and label them as kids because they have chosen to charge less is plain wrong and I am not surprised that you don't realize how wrong you are.

@saywhat,

You may join the band wagon at your own peril.

My first advice remains that you should charge for the project based on what makes sense to you especially as it concerns what you are expected to deliver.

If you are looking for a total possible cost then you are already on a wrong track because no one can give you that.

Looking back now, I think I have a good idea why Nigerians are easily short changed, they prefer to hear what they want to hear as against what they should hear.

@Denex,

I am sure I have been specific all along on what I am in agreement with. If it takes arresting women that practically bare all to the public to bring sanity to the way they dress I am in support of it.

I do not support the idea of arresting women because they are putting on trousers neither do I support the arrest of men with dreadlocks.

So, abeg, quote me correctly on what I support and what I don't support.

How come some people agreed with the UK when it wanted muslim women to stop using the veil and now they are against a plan to promote decent dressing in Nigeria? Is this a case of what is convenient for us to agree with or what?

Hmmm, don't get worked up over nothing. Considering the number of requests to develop websites (which I cannot handle) I often refer them to other web developers that can help them and that includes any good web developer out there.

So you know that this thread is about advice when you veered off and starting making silly remarks about other peoples preferences or styles? Typical Nigerian, will always attempt to justify mistakes rather than accept them or even correct them.

My dear, advice people if you must but until you have something one can take a look at I see you as one of those people that develop their projects with mouth and boasting.

Enjoy! I don let go since, na reply I been reply your comment.

Another talking, little or no action.

Now, unless the websites you design do not really run on the net I wonder what the big deal is for you to point to websites you have done or do you hide them inside CDs and show them to State governments?


I believe you are missing the point completely on N4k website.

You stated you can do it for free or have the client buy you lunch.

Another person stated that N4k can be charged for a website.

Another still believes that N20k, N200k or N1M is a good place to start.

Now, going by your understanding of the meaning of forum you will agree with me that everyone has a right to design a website for any price without being insulted. Mind you I took exception to your use of the word KIDS to describe people that design websites that cheap.

Ok, can we see your own company website since you design good sites for others? Is that too much to ask?

As a professional programmer that you claim you are I want to ask clients to contact you but before doing so I need to see your previous works.

Or, are you asking me to believe all you say just because you are the one saying it or what?

No personal website, no company website, no references, yet you have the guts to abuse people?

My dear, humility is key to real success, leave out the grandstanding for a moment.

Whether na police abi na Fashola the end result dey appealing sha as for the first time in a long long while I drove round Lagos and saw a lot of beautiful girls that wore cloths that don't reveal breasts, belles and butts.

It seems that we should apply the same measures to our leaders, I am sure corruption will disappear immediately.

Hi Xanadu,

Thanks, honestly I am shocked at the attitude of some of the web developers here.

Rather than spend time and energy looking for ways to develop solutions that will solve real life problems in Nigeria they are busy looking for people to malign or abuse.

If we are to go by their style then no Nigerian should be able to own a website unless that person is willing to spend at least N200,000.00. Is this right?

However, while I agree that there is no problem if they wish to charge even N1M for 3 page website, in the same vein they should understand that those who feel they can design good websites for N4k should be allowed to do so without being called names.

Funny enough one thing I believe that is missing here is that one cannot truly succeed in this web development business if the passion is not there. If the primary aim is to make money then it will be very very difficult to survive.

laudate:
Afam, I used to have a lot of respect for your views but after what I just read here, am lost for words. I have simply lost all respect for anything you have said thus far, or any comments you might make from here onwards!!

Feel free to lose all respect because I stated something about you that you obviously do not like. Not to worry, it is common with Nigerians, they are usually comfortable with things until it hits them and then they start reacting.

laudate:
In what way does Laudate share Ono's hatred, please? Kindly state in black & white, the ways in which I have shared his hatred o! Since you are now psychic, please show the whole world the hatred that Laudate has expressed, and how it was done.

Considering the fact that you seem to be the only one on this forum that did not see (abi missed out) Ono's statement about wishing all the Igbos were killed during the war (even when Ono later tried to apologize claiming annoyance or something) then it makes perfect sense to believe that it is either those portions of this thread are invisible to your eyes or that you have chosen to ignore them yet have the boldness to challenge people that Ono did not make such comments.

laudate:
If Ono said he wished all Igbos were killed in the war, I must have missed it. Please post the link to that statement here, so that I can read it and pass my own comments.

I do not pass opinions on things I have not read, in black & white. It is dishonest to do so. To accuse me of hatred without proof, says a lot about your low grasp of issues and the prejudiced way you have chosen to approach things.

Sorry, I shall not be searching for and posting the link to the area where such comments were made.

I don't need you to read it (again anyway because I believe there is no way anyone would have missed it) let alone pass your comments as the ones you have passed already is enough for me to know where you stand.

Xris74:
Waoh! These (enboldened above) is a warning to ono. But he might thinks that you is commending him, as he thought of Grafikdon, since he do not understand stuff easily LMFAO

Don't worries, I told him to told his friend not to came because Mohammed Ali have already won the fought.

tundewoods:
Here is a simple way to arrive at the amount to Charge for a State Goverment Web.

Be wise and charge like a professional and lastly you better arrange and present a complete web team comprising of Visual designers, Content Managers,copywriters,web programmers & database back admins to justify your Bill if its running into Millions.Never make the mistake of making the project look like a one man thing flaunting a single web guru.

The reproduced quote above is revealing and will put to rest the reason why quite a number of people are bitter about someone being able to design a website for N4k.

Now, the originator of this thread is being advised to present a complete web team comprising of visual designers, content managers, copy writers, web programmers & database back admins to justify a high bill if it is running into millions.

Now, this is based on the assumption that the adviser knows how state government contracts are awarded or that as a professional he has a standard price to charge for web projects.

My take on the advice with reference to specific members of the team is this

Visual Designers

In a government owned website I am yet to see why it is a must to have these people in the team

Content Managers

In this age and time why should we be talking of managing content for the client when all serious web programmers integrate a good admin module to take care of updates and/or additions that may arise after the website is delivered?

Copy writers

State government websites are not meant to cajole or entice people into making buying decisions, the focus should be on information dissemination and tasks completion.

Web programmers

A must, makes a lot of sense

Database back admins

Necessary for a database driven website but in reality the client decides what type of website he/she/it wants


So, while some would want to justify high cost of setting up web projects (referencing the quote above) it is important to note that with the reasons given by the adviser it is clear that it is indeed possible for one to charge N4k for a website if the person understands all the skills as highlighted by the adviser.

Companies like Hyperia and Linkserve charged more than N150,000.00 for 5 page static websites in the past and yet those websites were pretty much useless for that price.

As at that time they charged about N5,000.00 - N15,000.00 per picture. Maybe some of us worked there and are used to such very high charges.

Meanwhile, I would like those talking big to post at least 3 websites they have setup and how much they charged (if possible) so that we can have a feel of what they are saying.

Yahoo started providing services at very low rates and for free just like google, today we know where they are.

Let us also wait for our big boys that charge millions for websites to get to where the likes of google and yahoo are today.

Enjoy!

I-man:
You should change your username to Irony!

Thanks for the advice but I reject it in Jah's name.

my2cents:
I say the site should cost no more than N4,000

If it is ok for the designer why not?

You guys keep forgetting that web design/development is something that has more to do with the brain and skills than with naira and kobo.

Again, people have carefully or tactfully been mixing things up to maintain their positions based on faulty premises.

Web design is one thing, web hosting is another just as domain name registration is yet another.

smartsoft:
For afam to be telling he can do website in 2hours or 24hours he must have bunch of Pre-made template that he could just edit and upload since he can do that for 4k. You can't tell me that you can build a pretty good Dynamic website just in 24Hours from scrash ! that one na bobo.

I can develop dynamic website say in 4days or more am done with all the testing and all that.

Sorry, I don't use templates. Check sites I build.

A website can be designed for N4,000.00 and that is my point.

That it takes you 4 days to setup a dynamic website does not mean that others cannot do the same in 4-6 hrs just as someone can take 1 month to do what you are able to do in 4days.

So, unless you are using your own work rate/speed as a universal standard I wonder why you believe people cannot do something much faster than you can.

I have not charged anyone N4k for a website but if I wanted to I can do it, the point remains that a good website can be designed from free to millions of naira. This is a statement of fact and I wonder why people are losing sleep over it.

Chiori:
I-man, you have not said anything. Just a string of high-sounding words that are not cohesive. Don't give yourself cause to be cool-high.

It seems that you don't know I-man well. Maybe as 4Play sha.

He hardly says anything. All he does is come down on anyone or indeed anything that says anything not soothing to the US, UK or Israel.

When he is not doing that then he is agreeing with everything the likes of TayoD and Davidylan say regardless of the correctness or otherwise.

So, don't expect him to tackle the issues, infact you ain't seen nothing yet

I did state earlier that Laudate shares Ono's hatred by supporting (or not even seeing where Ono stated he wished the Igbos were all killed in the war according to him) him even though he doesn't want to say things that could be reproduced, hence his subtle support for the hatred Ono carries.

So, if a busy forum like this sees only Laudate supporting Ono and Ono in his wisdom believes every other person is against him because he is smart, factual or reasonable then there is a real problem with the man.

On english language sha, Ono's grammar are better than me but I will not allows that facts to bothers me at all because all finger are not equal.

MM will be remembered by some as someone that suggested that all Igbo men be castrated during the war.

How I wish his earlier plan of carving the North out of Nigeria succeeded sha.

romeo:
stop looking at them! just turn away your eyes next time you come across a naked woman, is it that difficult?

try somewhere else outside Nigeria and you'll see women dressed in transparent clothes with G-string to compliment and you ain't going to do shit

Do you think at all before writing or do you write first and think later?

So in your wisdom you imagine that a solution to the near unclothedness we see everyday is for people to look elsewhere when they expose a greater part of their bodies to the public?

McKren:
But the fact remains that living in Big cities is a matter of choice, if anybody has problems with how girls dress in Abuja, Lagos or Ph.

The person can quietly relocate to Lantang, Ijebu Ode, Kafanchan, Shagari, Udi or Etche

The problem here is double speak. In the same way those not comfortable with implementation of sharia should simply leave the states and relocate elsewhere, not so?

It seems we are ready to support things based on criteria we do not even believe in, una well done ooo!

I don't think there is a fixed or even recommended cost for designing a government website, just charge enough to cover the cost of the work you will put in. Just make sure you design the website well enough for other states to ask you to redesign theirs or create new ones.

romeo:
without going far, one will know that you need exposure

Abi ooo, at least you have more than enough congrats. Anything else?

Maybe some of you (based on where you live or work or relax) have not seen near naked women on the streets of Lagos, I have seen them and the sights are not decent ones.

Well, just as people celebrate 419 celebrating reckless showing of the breasts by some here is not surprising anyway.

romeo:
Nigerians need exposure to understand indecent exposure

If the exposure is the type that will force people to see naked women when they do not want to see them then Nigerians don't need that type of exposure.

The only place people have complete freedom to dress the way they like as it regards to nudity or near nudity is in their rooms or any other private place.

Hope a lot of people will be bold enough to accept their mistakes when they make them rather than spending eternity trying to justify them or not even wanting to accept them in the first place.

Well, since the US is known to protect its interests at all cost let them just boycott the OPEC crude oil and let the world see how it will fare.

All the lies and bragging will amount to nothing if it is not bold enough to boycott the oil?

Fashola is a muslim and this is a statement of fact.

Considering the fact that this is his first website and he did not state that he is a professional comments should be as mild as possible. After all he came here to ask for criticisms that will help him.

My advice, look at websites you really like and see if you can make this website look like them. Start from there first and by the time you make progress a lot of things will begin to fall into place.

Very interesting article. I hope countries experiencing droughts may use the technology to bring rains while the US can continue with its experiments and the attendant mistakes that come with them.

Just remember to let me know when the Beta testing starts on 6th I think, already signed up.

All the best and good luck.

I second the "no comment" comment.

presido1:
He needed your directive and should be given one not series of questions.

Abi oooo.

Where should it be?

Just state the most suitable section so it can be taken there.

I posted it on business section yet figured out it wasn't a business proposal so looked for a section where people can benefit from the information in the article.

So, let me know the exact section for this piece and it shall be there in no time.

Why shifting the goal post here?

If I am against the arrest of someone for putting on trousers why will I support the arrest of someone tying wrapper?

I have been specific as regards the very provocative and sometimes repulsive way some women dress these days all in the name of fashion.

So why should someone be arrested in Carlifornia for going out stark naked? Abi freedom of expression no reach that side?

I still maintain that the government has a role to play in the area of maintaining sanity in the way some women dress of they cannot get proper training and/or orientation from their homes.

What I am opposed to is the idea of basing this on religion as that would amount to forcing people to follow a particular religion.

As regards the picture above, I am sure the number of people there are not up to 90 neither can the police tell us that these were the people that were not properly dressed.

http://sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/newsonthehour/2007/aug/04/newsbreak-04-08-2007-001.htm

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Yar’Adua, Kalu, others mourn Enwerem

President Umar Yar’Adua has described the death of former Senate President, Chief Evan Enwerem as a national loss, saying the country would miss him.

He recalled that the deceased contributed a lot to the entrenchment of democracy in Nigeria as governor of Imo State, as a senator and as Senate President, saying he received the news with immense sadness.

The president prayed for the repose of Enwerem’s soul and for God to grant members of his family and all who mourn his demise the fortitude to bear the loss.

Also reacting to the death of the former Senate President, Senator Mojisoluwa Akinfenwa, national chaiman of the Alliance for Democracy extolled Evan Enwerem leadership of the Senate. According to him, Enwerem directed the leadership of the Senate dilingently.

“He directed the affairs of the Senate, diligently without bias. He displayed no bitterness towards those who didn’t vote for him. Even when he was removed , he left unbowed and continued to contribute intelligently . It is sad that he died; the nation will definitely miss him’.

Speaking in a similar vein, the immediate past Abia State governor , Dr. Orji Uzor Kalu described Enwerem as a humble and mature politician.
‘He was good to everybody who related with him, even across the party divide. Enwerem was a complete gentle man.’
Saturday Sun investigation revealed that Enwerem was flown to Abuja from Owerri, for urgent treatment, before he gave up. Before he became Senate President , he was former governor of Imo State on the platform of the defunct National Republic Convention under the Ibrahim Babangida transition exercise.

Evan Enwerem, the sixth senate president, since the nation’s independence was the first casualty of the macabre intrigue in the Peoples Democratic Party that prides itself as the largest political party in Africa.

Enwerem was a Senate President who found it difficult to win the respect of majority of his fellow senators. He was believed to have benefited from the political game plan of a brash and over bearing Olusegun Obasanjo, who wanted to gag the federal lawmakers, in order to avoid any opposition from the legislative arm that could check his excesses. Enwerem was thus preferred in the house election that determined who occupied the office over and above the man the bookmakers and party stalwarts had positioned for the exalted office: the cerebral Dr. Chuba Okadigbo.

A resilient opposition
In spite of his emergence as senate president, his colleagues in the upper legislative chamber, who evidently saw him as a protégé of Obasanjo and the attendant risk to a vibrant legislature did not relent in their efforts to unseat him.
The opportunity came calling when Enwerem got himself entangled in a controversy over his appropriate first name, since it was uncovered that a certain Evans Enwerem had been convicted by a court of law in the immediate months after Nigeria’s independence.

Was the senate president’s first name, Evan or Evans? After months of denials and allegations of criminal record and falsification, Enwerem was toppled November 18, 1999. His spirited defence that the Evans Enwerem convicted was his twin brother, who had once died. His own name he gave as Evan Enwerem convinced no one.
After him, other casualties of the senate banana peels were Chuba Okadigbo and Adolphus Wabara. Both Anyim Pius Anyim and Ken Nnamani had stormy careers as Senate President, but survived the onslaught orchestrated against them .

@Mckren,

I still believe that Nigeria is not hopeless regardless of the short comings in some quarters.

The freedom of dressing does not exist anywhere in the world. Can you choose to go to work stark naked just because you think its your fundamental human right to do what pleases you?

Women that show all but their private parts should be taken off the streets lest they mislead a lot of young ones and even some old ones that are not interested in seeing what's being advertised.

I like women, I like fashion, I don't like women forcing me to see their breasts and I don't like seeing the top half of their butts just because they feel it is cool for them to wear jeans that show them. It is just not right.

Power is nothing without control so is freedom nothing without checks and balances.

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/editorial_opinion/article03/080407

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Why inverter backup systems fail
By Afam Nnaji

IT is no longer news that people have wasted money on inverter backup solutions that never delivered on their promises. What is shocking however is that the average person buying into this backup system doesn't bother to know how these things work, they just trust completely what service providers say. Inverter based backup systems provide power supply when regular power fails by converting the DC in batteries to usable AC that powers appliances in the home or office. The batteries (or battery banks) are charged using battery chargers (may be in-built or dedicated chargers) utilising regular power or generators.

Without going into any technical jargons, it then means that for an inverter based backup system to perform properly the inverter must work well, the battery charger must work well, the batteries themselves must be of good quality (deep cycle capability preferable), the service provider must be honest with his/her recommendations while the client must be honest with the loads (appliances) that will be connected to the backup system.

In reality, these conditions must be met for the whole package to work well, failure of one or more of these conditions will ultimately lead to a failed backup project, wasted money, disappointed client and sad experience. What I have found out from many discussions from people that have implemented failed or disappointing inverter backup systems in the past is that from the onset the service provider tells the client what he/she wants to hear as that is the fastest way to guarantee payment especially when over-rated promises are made just before implementing the backup system.

Another common problem is that the client will sometimes provide a list of appliances that may double or triple in the actual system just to make the loads appear smaller (as many assume that everything can just scale without problems). Without needing the services of a magician this is one sure route to shorter backup time as the backup time increases with lesser loads or for well planned systems. How can a client decide on what to believe? The best route is for the client to insist on having contacts that he/she can call to find out how reliable previous installations done by the service provider are. Be careful not to be given numbers of colleagues or friends here. Reliable inverter backup solutions exist even with the many bad stories here and there, all that is needed is for the prospective client to ask many questions (don't get tired of asking, it is your money).

On the part of the service provider, understanding the technology or topology of different inverters or online UPS is critically important as failure to understand these things will only leave one at the mercy of the inverter manufacturer, charger manufacturer (if the inverter does not come with an integrated charger) and battery manufacturer. A badly setup battery charger can fry a battery in no time just as sub-standard batteries can become pretty useless in a few months as against years.

I have been using an inverter backup system for close to three years in my office (without any generator, not even a standby one) and I have been on inverter backup in my home (even though I have a small 950VA generator that I use once in say one week or two weeks in some cases) for at least 13 months. So, every single entity in this whole business must be honest, from the client, the service provider to the manufacturers of the different components that make up a working backup system. Unless you are generating your own electricity using solar panels/modules or small wind turbines the most cost effective alternative today to power failures remain well-planned inverter backup systems.

* Nnaji is a company executive in Lagos.

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