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babyosisi:
It is not permissible because she'll be killed and allah will sanction such killing.
but a man can marry any one he chooses.
what partiality!!!

@all,
So is it sensible to think such a gender-biased and violent-permitting god is 'the God'? No!! such a god must be 'a god'

mochafella:
@Havila
right here.Nuclear Technology as a political tool is useful primarily because Nuclear weapons can follow. On its own Nuclear technology used for power generation and domestic uses carries little weight on the global scene and even less weight in bargaining for aid and sanctions. So if you are stating global politics as a reason for Nuclear tech. then its Nuclear weapons you are indirectly asking for.
Hope its clearer now?

@Mochafella,
What you just did is ludicrous, it is called quoting out of context. What you should have done was to simply ask me "if I can clarify some of my statement" or rather pose a specific question. Rather, you gave your interpretation to my post and asked the writer if it 'is clearer now'; really very funny.

My statement or prediction on North Korea that just tested a nuclear bomb is specific for North Korea and how it's relationship with the international community might go with regards to it's nuclear capability, how it will likely use it for negotiations for aids and sanctions restrictions etc that has nothing to do with the importance of nuclear technology in the general sense of it's potential contribution to economic development of middle-income and other developing nations.

However with regard the importance of nuclear technology in economic development, basic economics will show that in a world in which there is free trade, only economies that are export driven will benefit compared to import driven economies. An economy can only be export driven when it has a strong manufacturing/technology base. Power generation is probably the most important factor in determining the strenght of manufacturing base. Many big player manufacturing firms are looking to outsource their plants to viable developing countries in the spirit of free trade, a good and stable, reliable power supply will be a bargaining tool to develop manufacturing sector. While nuclear technology will enhance the development of the macro-economic sector, obviously there will then be a spin-over effect to the micro-economy. Imagine a stable nuclear power generating electricity in Nigeria, imagine how cheap it wil be for barbers, hairdressers, mechanics, cornershops, and other artisans who constitute the heart of microeconomic to operate and make profic compared to now, imagine how unemployment will then be reduced. Imagine the effect of stable power on research in universities and hospitals, or the use of nuclear technology in medicine. In a world in which economic boudaries and borders are becoming none existent day by day, don't you see how important nuclear technology will be in influencing global trade and hence economic development. This is the idea of getting into the future business.

@Akintos
I am sorry if my first response sounds a little military style. However, I might disagree with TV01 a little because he appears to think Pastors might not very necessary.
I however agree with him about the need for wide but relevant consultations.
You will pray about it; Pastors will give guidance and spiritual insight into your relationship; Parents with definitely have to give their approval but the ultimate decision lies with you, this is the beginning of real responsiblity. myyseun said you need to have inner peace. Correct, but what is this inner peace? It is when there is no query or doubt in your mind about whatever decision you take, that is either to marry the person or not. You must have to be truthful to your self, to reason and counselling and advices given before you can get to the stage of inner peace.

@Olabowale,
At times, I really wonder how you think; however, going by the responses above to your recent post, that is a concern of a lot of peoples for you too.!! Well, it is the responsibility of every Christian to expose all works of evil where-ever we could find it, and that is what people are doing to Muhammed and Al-illa a.k.a Allah your moon god on this forum. I am walking on the earth that belong to the true God, the Holy one if Israel.
You have opened your heart to destruction and ruin with your hatred and bitterness directed at everything of Jesus Christ and the real God. However, the Lord is still knocking at the door of your heart, only if you could listen to the voice of reason but bitterness makes the soul black. Your soul is so black and your threats are the products of a frustrated mind. Go and do anything you can fathom in your evil heart, it will only come back to you and you alone. You will use your head to carry the evil works of your hand.
I have told you before "there is no divination that can harm Israel, neither is there any enchantment against Judah". Dont you see nobody is afraid of you? just see how people respond to you now and compare it with before, dont you see how low you've sunk? That is what pride and intolerance does. Oma se o!!
I am praying for you because regardless of your hatred I still love you, but I hate everything you represent. It is what you are and represent that I despise totally!!

@ Olabowale,
Your confabulations and criss-crossing mind from Awolowo to Abiola story is a product of a disturbed mind. Simply read your post. Somebody remarked that I should respect you, I did until you lost it. Respect is a two way traffic in case you've never been told.
You ignorantly claimed I insulted your prophet, no I did not, I only 'enlightened' ; so you and your co-fundamentalists think you only have the right to say all sorts with your Bible-bashing and saying all sort of stupidity about Jesus whom you did not know?. That is in the recent olden days, the world now recognise the anti-dote to rabid fundamentalists like you is to confront and stare them down.
Olabowale, the day I gave my life to Jesus and confessed him as my Lord and savious, do you know what happened? Let me tell you what happened: I look the devil himself in the eyes; guess what, he blinked first and then looked down in defeat because I have crossed over to the side of victory and light. Therefore all you members of the synagogue of Leviathan have been defeated. If anybody want to know the meaning fo evil, let them read your post with all your threats, intolerance, rantings, hatred, bitterness etc, mr-warrior-by-bloodline. Yeye

@Wumine,
thanks and I am a Yorubaman like him and let me tell you what happened to respect. It is a two way traffic, going and coming. If respect kept going from one side and is not reciprocated, it will stop going too. I don't owe him any apology; respect achieve it's objective when it is mutual. What I am for is tolerance, and tolerance can never be achieved if some people think have the monopoly of wisdom. I am going the whole way with him. However, I have forgiven him in my heart for all he said or that he will say in future , however I intend to let him recognise the concept of mutual respect and tolerance, usually, that is not achieved around a round table.

mochafella:
@ Havila
You state the "difference" between Nuclear technology and Nuclear weapons. You profess that the technology is what Nigeria should aspire to and then proceed to state the advantages of Nuclear weapons as the reason for that aspiration. What are you actually advocating?

Hi Mochafella,
I actually had to go over my post again, seriously, because it is either you must have read another post . I can't find where I advocated for nuclear weapons. Are you mis-interpreting my statement that Pakistan and India are using their nuclear capability as barganing tool in the global politics to mean I am advocating for nuclear weapons. Why not go over my post again because I still cant find where I stated the "advantages of Nuclear weapons". Can you point it out for clarification? Regards

olabowale:
@Havila: You have a very great imagination. Your dream is really a nightmare. You will see it very clearly, when the Angel of death is extracting your soul at the point of death. Then, it will be too late. Indeed, it is then that you will know.

@ 'yeye warrior' Olabowale,
By every probability, the angel of death is going to extract your soul before mine, but I do not want you to know the truth then, as it will be too late. Even though I despise everything your represent in life (which is bitterness, anger, hatred, intolerance, misery etc), I still love you with the love of God because my God is Love and he commands me to love even my enemies; so let the Light of the World shine into your stony heart before it is too late

olabowale:
@Babyosisi: It is the the Islam that is me that I have repressed the Yoruba in me against Havila. If it was not Islam, I will unleash the worrior blood that flows in my blood, from my bloodline.

@ 'yeye warrior' Olabowale,
On the other hand what you are really saying is: you could have order somebody or 'something' to do me harm after all your are a muslim warrior like Muhammed, abi?. Have you not heard or do you not know what the Word said about Me: "There is no divination that can harm Israel, neither is there any enchantment against Judah" I am a Yoruba like you, but I believe in a God who is greater than Yoruba, Hausa, Ibo etc race and our various 'idiosyn-crazies' , so it is Him only I have Holy fear for. You are not talking like your projected age OlaB., not surprised anyway. You are full of hot-hair, you can't do me nada!!; your blood is boiling, don't forget your anti-psychotic medications. Low-life nincompoop!!

@Ignorant Olabowale,
I, on the other hand, pity a wasted entity that you are and your entire family who must have tolerated you up till now depite your idiotic and senseless mannerism. In your usual stupid attempts to distort fact, or maybe it is your poor understanding, you made a rubbish submission. No where did I mention Awolowo as my role model, however his achievements in Yorubaland and Nigeria cannot be compared with your nymphomanic of a role model. In todays Yoruba politics, we still talk of active 'Awo factor' nobody knows of any 'Abiola factor'. I careless what your father may call him, that is your own issue,
You are already in a pit, and close to the end of your life; despite that, your life is miserably mared by anger, intolerance and bitterness. I have told you before, while yorubas always put elders in position of respect, your kind of elder is a total disgrace to the concept of elder. Your bitterness is spewing out and your veins are popping out of your neck , your long life of hatred and anger at everything Christian is evident for the whole world to see, resulting in your usual shallow, myopic, and senseless reasoning. You are a non-entity, Olabowale, your relevance is now zero. I am here to put you in your proper place. Yorubas refer to people like you as "Omo Ile, ta ba gbe sori eni, a Igbo" (i.e You belong on the ground, even if we place you on a mat, as low as it is, you will still fall on the bare ground!!) You have fallen, your arrogance, bitterness, anger and intolerance has placed you among the low of lows. That is where you are and you belong there, and it is a pity, a supposed middle age sex-pest that you are. You have failed in your mission, I will advise you to go back to your masjid for futile help. You can never know my folks, they are responsible God-fearing people, that is a concept that is foreign to your warped mind-i.e. responsibility. 'Agbalagba to n'se langba langba, ete ni o gbeyin e'
You are a non-issue and a waste of time and space, I repeat, your family needs help and prayers!! Yeye man.

@All,
Please, please and please, the mere mention of 'Nuclear' should not necessarily mean Nuclear weapons. I know the thread is asking about Nuclear weapons but a more appropriate Question should have been 'Should Africa/Nigeria have Nuclear technology"??( because you must have the technological know-how before you can develop the weapon) My unequivocal answer to this would be a big YES!!!. Nuclear technology is now being used globally in Medicine, power generation, agriculture, etc and we need to start looking actively into how we can tap into this technology. Bill Clinton gave an amazing speech recently at the Labour party conference in UK in which he charged the party to "get into the future business", a right thinking government in a country like Nigeria should get into the 'future business' and believe me; nuclear technology is going to be very prominent in near future in achieving economic development because it is a bargaining tool in global trade and politics. With all due respect, I can conviniently predict the outcome of the Iran, North-Korea Nuclear fiasco - NOTHING!! The 2 nations will earn their respect as Nuclear powers; Iran will develop it's power and manufacturing sector and it's economy will shoot like Chinas', same a North Korea, they will keep some secret nuclear bombs and use nuclear power to develop their technology sector, and use it to bargain for restriction of sanctions, more aid etc. That was how UN, USA etc condemed India and Pakistan when they developed theirs, this is a rapidly evolving world, people. Serious nations must be 'proactive and not reactive'.

@Dearzi,
I totally share and understand your concern about Nigeria and nuclear technology or weapons, but Pakistan is a country that can be placed on the same level as Nigeria with regard to socio-economic, health and demographic parameters or indices, however it is a Nuclear power today and it is using it as a bargaining tool in the arena of global politics. Nuclear technology will soon separates the boys from the men, the haves from the have-not. We are in the era of rapid globalization fuelled by capitalist ideas. Nigeria has more than enough local and internation skilled personnel who can develop and maintain nuclear technology, there is a Centre on Nuclear technology at Obafemi Awolowo University, what is needed is a government that recognise it's importance now as a matter of urgency and create a conducive policy environment for our researchers to do it. If you think we must wait until our infant mortality rate, or maternal mortalityrate etc is zero, then we are going to be so left behind in the world that Nigeria will not be relevant even in Africa talkless of world. It is becoming more difficult for any nation to develop now without the nation being aggresive. Nuclear technology will help in generating power, thereby encouraging manufacturing and other sectors through stable power, thereby creating employment. NEPA hydropower is insufficient, God forbid if Niger republic decide to buid dam, we are finished i.e power from Kanji dam; gas and coal power contribute to global warming and thus worsening agricultural productivity for farmers, but nuclear power is`a clean power source.  We can go on and on about how relevant nuclear technology is to development in this age. All the 'seriously developing countries' (not the "developing countries" in names only) e.g Venezuela, Iran, Brazil, Thailand, South Africa etc are actively exploring Nuclear power/technology because it will contribute immensely to their economic and social development. The furore over Iran and North Korea is because the nations are led by islamic fundamentalists and a sick dictator respectively both with warped minds. The IAEA is there to prevent illegal waepons and regulate the industry. Believe me, we need to start looking into Nuclear technology asap.

Backslider:
Dear All, Read the Interview Pastor Tb Joshua Has with the Journalist. He said that he did not want to talk of His conversion. Why? Anyway I have learnt not to Judge any Spirit that Calls Jesus The Son of Most High God. Any one that comes in the name of the Lord I will take him as such, but I shall watch out for the Tree and The fruits it bears thereof. How Do I know what type of fruit he bears.
True Test Of A man of God:
listen to his preaching is it Holy? does it bear the fruit of the spirit. Humility Meekness, Goodness Kindness temperament Love Joy does his life direct you to Jesus alone. Does he say it words and deeds.

@Backslider,
Preach it man!!!, I cannot but respect your exhortations. Keep it up, my brother.

@Teena,
Yes, the Ancient Mystical Order of the Rosci Crusci is not a cult but a social club, Maybe you need to ask your Uncle what is the meaning of a 'cult' because he might have a definition different from the rest of us. Just look at the name of AMORC as a starter, then tell your Uncle you will like to join them (just jiving), ask him for the entry requirments if you qualify , if it as open as going to a church or house fellowship etc, then decide for yourself and come back and post your findings. That is called research my dear. Waiting for your findings

On the other hand and seriously now, I will advise you if you are serious about the question, to ask your parents and/or your pastor if you are a christian. I am very sure they will tell you AMORC is an ancient cult, the ultimate focus is on power and position among others. Stay away, my dear.

Backslider:
@ havilla, Please try to be holy in your statements to people of other faiths. you need not attack the person that serves a god but you must attack the religion and the magical books.

Hi Backslider,
How are you and where have you been. I attempt to 'enlightene' and not attack other peoples religion or their gods, but in the line of doing this some people think they can get personal and attack my personality. That is called intolerance that characterise them, dont worry I am just trying to show them they dont have the monopoly of vituperations.

@Olabowale,
I am not going to dignify your false and ignorant claims about medical descoveries in the Quran with a reply. You've been told on this forum before of Galen and co who lived long before the time of Muhammed and wrote all the early stuff on embryology which was then plagiarised by your prophet into his fictional novel called Quran. Yes, Islam can overcome it's co idolatrous 'religions' because that's was the origin of islam from history and acheaological evidences; how Muhammed negotiated with the pagans in mecca; but darkness can never over come even the smallest light. Jesus Christ is the Light of the World, and He told us to Rejoice because He has already overcome the world i.e Satan, Islam, Ogun, Obatala, Hindu, Shinto, Yoga, Okija, Buddism, Osama bin rubbish, Taliban etc.
Let the light shine into your darkness.

babyosisi:
@ Olabowole and Havila.
Please enough of the bitter quarrelling.
let's give a group hug and keep talking Islam and Christianity not individual name calling.
It's making me sad.
Havila,you're my brother and I love you.
Olabowole is my inlaw and though we don't agree religionwise,I love him too.
Please let's stop the name callings.

@Babyosisi,
Thanks for your mediation, you are a lovely lady. However, Yorubas have a proverb that "[b]Ti omi ko ba daru, ko ni toro[/b]I" i.e. if a dirty water in not stirred, the particles will not settle. At times, this need to happen for there to be mutual respect. 

@Olabowale,
It is going to be me and you here for some time, as you can see others have abandoned you for me to deal with, and by the grace of God I will take your arrogance and intolerance to the cleaners. I came to this forum with aim of engaging in multi-faith discussions only to be confronted by muslims like you that believe you can intimidate and hurl abuses at everybody; when you were confronted you resorted to veiled threats and lectures about your age. Your time is over I told you, the world is ready to confront every islamic fundamentalist; your tantrum throwing days are over. Your intolerance made you loose the respect of most people along the way, well you said you dont need respect, so why hala when we put you in your proper place!!! .
Thank God you stated Moshood Abiola was a "great Yoruba Muslim" because that is exactly who he was, a muslim man who cannot even count the number of his wives and concubines and DNA test was needed after his death to determine his true children, snatching wives of kings and his workers etc. A good picture of indiscipline and lasciviousness permitted/encouraged in Islam, no wonder he was made Baba Adini of Yorubaland-waoh, what a good role model for peoples like you. (Look, the world supported the principle of June 12 and not Abiola in case you dont know- so indeed, I agree with you he was just a great yoruba 'muslim' not a great Yoruba man). The whole Yoruba race and Nigeria is still taliking about the public achievements and governing principles of peoples like Awolowo, Azikiwe, Tafawa Balewa, Upabi Asika, Bola Ige, 'Penkelemesi' of Ibadan etc but hadly can anybody remember or associate any principle with Abiola other than his ravenous appetite for women. The history is there for all to read before you accuse me of speaking evil of a dead man.
Believe me, I dont over-rate myself neither am I haugty, but I was brought up believing in God and in myself, to always look people in the eyes and never look down on anybody, ready to confront intolerant bullies and anybody who want to intimidate others. No doubt,  your two boys are very good boys (I have no problem with them) but if you operate with them with your intolerant attitude in this dynamic world, you risk making them rebellious, that's why I will pray for them.
I will advise you to go over your own entries and see how you and your co-fundamentalist take pleasure in saying all sorts about Jesus and christians, now that we did our research and expose the idolatory called Islam and the violent, peadophilia who is your prophet (piss be upon him), you can't believe your eyes and ears. Your colleagues have all "taken cover in the hills of Afghanistan with the Talibans now", since we are raining the scud-missile of truth about your prophet and your religion. Welcome to the new world, Olabowale, where people tolerate divergent opinion and nobody has monopoly of vitupreations or violence as you muslims think. Move away from shallow reasoning and open your mind and heart. Respect is earned not claimed!!!. I am here for you.

Quote from: olabowale on Today at 01:27:53 PM
@Havila: Evidently, your underdeveloped mind can understand that everything in its proper timing. You ask those amongst your family folks, about Nigerian government demand of Festac mask, from Britain. Now you have abandoned Nigeria. Thanks to the Sterling, or it Euro that has bought you so cheaply,,,,,,,,,,,,

@Olabowale,
This old scoundrel throwing temper tantrums is behaving true to type; I wonder if you think at all before you write. Sitting down and boasting of how you've been in the US for decades but accusing me of abandoning Nigeria while I am here for PG training, so who don abandon Nigeria? That is your problem sha!! Why are you so silly and not behaving your age, sir. Yorubas' say, 'Agba o ki nwa l'oja, k'ori omotuntun wo', obviously they are not refering to your type of indolent 'agbalaba' with no sense of shame or dignity that goes along with age.
Now you've resorted to cursing at long last, I wonder what took you so long since the thinking part of your brain has shut down long time ago: it confirms how low of all lows you are. I will however pray for your children, because they need it, having an irritant like you as father. You are a tragedy and a disgrace to the 'middle-age' group.
It is you who need your conscience awakened, and also need to root bitterness and anger out of your miserable life. If you can't tolerate people disagreeing with you, better move to Pluto (it is no longer a planet, it fits you pefectly )

@Olabowale,
If anybody want's to know the literal meaning of 'idiotic', they should simply read your contributions. You really really epitomise the universal concept of 'shallow reasoning'.
You are just a good picture of what has come to characterise the 'islamic world': a bundle of confused peoples who behave like toodlers throwing tantrums at the slightest opportunity, not ready to reason with everybody else. But now that people are tired of your selfishness and violence and confront you, you claim persecution on one hand, justify violence on the other.
Instead of showing how an individual dressed up like 'Ojuju calabar' can have any meaningful contribution to community relationship and development in a modern world (sorry you guys are still in 1472), you are busy ranting about how christians drink alcohol, about how paedophile Muhammed (piss be upon him) discovered embryology etc. Dont you sound stupid to yourself, this old scoundrel!! If you dont, then you have serious issues, man!!

@Olabowale, this old scoundrel,
Well, you see Yorubas say "Agbalagba o'kin wa l'oja, k'ori omotunutun wo" (to non-yorubas it means: if an elder is in the market, there should not be problem with the children) obviously, yorubas were not referring to your type of indolent 'Agbalagba" with no sense of dignity or self-respect that goes along with ageing.
I can see you've resorted to cursing from your various posts, well I will rather pray for you and your children especially because they need it, having an irritant like you for father. You claim the 'muslim in you' on one hand and curse on the other hand, showing the two are synonymous. Well, I have good news for you, you and your cursing and evil wishes are of no effect because I am already victorious; you, your prophet (piss be upon him) and the deity you worship were all defeated 2000 years ago on the cross of calvary by my Lord and Saviour.
You are a disgrace to middle age; elder is not a title, it is a position you earn, not only by age but by your attitude. You are an indolent, arrogant, intolerant old man with the mentality of a teenager in early-life-crisis. No wonder your rantings like a mad dog. Your bullying is over, I told you. I am going the whole way with you, and will take you down and teach you how to tolerate divergent opinion. This is the 21sy century, but you are still in 1472 I guess going by your own calendar. Abysmally ignorant 'thing'.

@The old scoundrel called Olabowale,
Now this last post must have been written by you, since the 'dyxlesia' has returned to your writing structure. Now you are behaving true to type-a silly old rascal and a fool with a warped mind. Itching for a fight at your age, right?, I told you bitterness has consumed your sorry life and you are now ranting like a mad dog . It is very unfortunate that I have to put you in your proper place like this, but that is what intolerance and arrogance does to a man in old age, it removes every shred of regard for you. 
Look, your bullying is over on the nairaland because you will never be at ease!!! In the words of late MKO Abiola, 'you have murdered sleep' and you will pay for it. Can you imagine the number of discussants who came here calling you sorry old fool 'Uncle'; but now see how people talk to you like a small child here. Dont you see how your arrogance and intolerance has eroded every dignity you have.!!!
Yes, I am having fun at how you are bursting your chops, it is obvious you are running from pillar to post with your 'bentup' anger calling yourself 'Daud' and 'believing David', dirty old sex-terrorist. Your imbecilic rantings are very obviously coming from a mind with adolescent psychology, that's why anybody will think you are a teenager in early-life crisis with your writings and discussion because you never make sense but always ready to attack anybody that dares confronts you. Yeye man, hope you wont give yourself stroke you are the ultimate example of the intolerance that characterise the islamic world, always thinking you can have your idiotic way, look you better go to your masjid and recruit some of your fellow suicide-writers/bombers to come and help you with some 'new idea'. You've expired, Yeye man !!.

olabowale:
@Babyosisi and havila: First, Babyosisi, this is your entry to in support of unclothedness. The argument of the Yemeni writer is very poor. You see falsehood in it. As a young man in Nigeria, I saw women wearing Hijab, of all types. From the ordinary Hijab to the Nikab type that is commanded on the wives of Muhammad (AS). It shows that the Yemeni woman, either just woke up from a deep slumber, or a hypocrite. The condition of the hypocrite is worse than that of outright Kufar.

@Havila; Maybe you need to get married. you have a bentup anger in you. You will at least have some soft side to your rough edge. You see, if I never have another relation, I will not say that i have not lived a life! I have a lot on my plate and sex is a very tiny part of my life.
,,,,,,, At least, i can be the antidote to your poison. there is no free lunch here.

@ALL,
Did I not say one of them will come up and attack the writer of the article posted by Babyosisi rather than give any sensible rejoinder to counter the article,,,,,,,well today has my prophesy been fulfilled!! . I can see you are good at plagiarism, since I told you before that I am the antidote to your poison and bullying on Nairaland,,,,,,oh sorry I forgot, you spend your entire sorry life reading the ultimate guide to plagiarism called Quran. The correct expression is 'pent-up anger' and not bentup anger, bros . Sex is a tiny part of your life indeed, no wonder you are already fantasizing about continuing your lasciviousness-i.e. extreme sexual pervesion- in your own 'heaven' going by your previous description of the 'islamic heaven' where sex is free for all. Oga, sex has consumed your entire thoughts that's why you cant stand seeing women with there faces uncovered because you dont know what you might do, how do you survive the summer in New York with all the 'sisters' in your face? How have you been controlling your urges? Yeye, old sex-pest/sex terrorist!

@This old sex-pest, fundamentalist and an idiot called Olabowale,
I noticed a change in the writing. This your last post must have been written by somebody else not you, because, for one the English grammar, writing structure and spellings are much better than your previous posts (somebody else can cross check with his other posts and see what I am saying) . Although the stupidity factor still remains constant, then it appears stupidity is infectious around you. Are you now recruiting writing-terrorists because your old warped brain has totally shut-down from over heating? .
I am really having fun at how you (or your proxy) are bursting 'your chops' with your nonsensical diatribe. There is no amount of your 'Jesus-phobic' filth that you can throw that will reduce his Glory while you wallow in your idolatory called Islam. Obviously, your old age is not showing in your communications; your major problem is that you've been confronted by somebody who has seen through your 'anger, bitterness and sorry life'. You are the ultmate epitome of a demagogue, an old sex-pest who cant tolerate opposition or challenge, welcome to the new world. Really, just read your own last post and see how childish it sounds, that's how I know it was not written by you, (or maybe I am actually given this old 'bellzebub' more credit than you deserve). I can see you are a blind messenger of the terrorist/paedophile prophet Mo.(piss be upon him as always) with your 'short-fuse'; not only is your mind 'green', your capacity to reason is equally shallow. You are very uncivilised, unfortunately you are`exposing your filthy, sorry mind to the whole world. I told you before, that you are not relevant, you've stopped making sense long ago. You and your proxy should go and do much research again before you respond. You are so so transparent, mr-defender-of-the-universe. Low-life islamic fundamentalist .

mukina2:
@havila
teacher teach me now; if youre so damn good and soo well educated why waste your time here tryin to reply to post by me?

@All,
see what they've done to the mentality of this poor girl in their masjids/mosques. She now suffers from inferiority complex because of her gender, to the extent that she herself even thinks I am wasting my time by replying her posts.(going by the quote above) See how they've battered her thinking into believing she is not equal or as intelligent as men. This Islam is a wicked religion. Mukina2, jokes aside, I like you and I even like your picture , I want you to know I dont hate you; but I hate Islam and what it is doing to good, brilliant women like you among other things. I want you to believe in yourself as a woman and as a full human being. You are not less equal to the men in your masjid or mosque and I am sure you are equally, or most likely, more intelligent than those trying to defend you here . You are really talented, I have read some of your jokes and they are funny. Dont expect 'prefrential treatment' in this new age because of your gender, aspire to be the best you can be. You see, if you yab me here, I will yab you back, if your raise an issue I will disagree if necessary, that does not mean I will not open the open a car door for you if I see you, or treat you like a lady, because I am indeed a gentleman. Feel free to reply me, yab me if you wish, discuss intelligently, raise questions etc, it is your God giving right to use your God given brain, contrary to what your Ustas/Mullahs/Sheiks and your "defenders" are doing by keeping you down.

@Babyosisi,
Thanks for this article, interesting piece: I've copied it and sending to a number of my muslim colleagues. But I seriously think that the phrase ",,,,,,Arab men,,,,,,," in the article should have been replaced with ",,,,,,,,Muslim men,,,,,,,". The issue is not peculiar to arab muslim men alone but to all muslim men generally especially the likes of Olabowale, Belloti, Firdau4u and co who cannnot control their sexual urges and believe that women are mere collection of sexual parts or sex tools, unintelligent and only good for pleasure of their men. The article just emphasised our various posts on this issue. I wont be surprised to read a response from one of them 'fundamentalists' claiming the writer was possesed by the devil for expressing herself.

olabowale:
@Haavila: I have not worn a short pant since my college days. That was even for a passing fad, the ignorance days in old USA. You talked about shoplifting as if it is muslim problem. But you would not mind the whole neighborhood to be gorking at your sister, your aunt, your niece or your wife. Yes, you will like that, even if she does not feel good about it. You have to force her to disrobe. Good for you, Havila. What kind of a name is that. African or it is is your Jewish name, abi

@Olabowale,
If you want to know the meaning of Havila, you will have to read and research it. Anyway, you've confirmed beyond reasonable doubts, and in your ignorance, that you and your fellow muslim men are sexual-terrorists. Do you think it is everybody who goes about with nothing else to do than to be 'gawking' (note the correct spelling) at faces of women? Why is it that old muslim men like you think more with your 'pelvic' region than with the thing inside the skull, sir? Are you saying you cannot control yourself? That is the same reason there is serious difficulty in getting young muslim girls to school because sexual-terrorists like you will rather have them hooded-up in your harem than allow them to contribute meaninfully to the society. We are not asking them to take of their clothes, just let us see your face, to be able to identify you and integrate you into the community; that is clearly against the selfish wishes and fetish desires of old sex-pests like you, who will rather prefer otherwise. Other peoples shoplift and they are caught by CCTV, but when the jobless women in 'hoods' come to the stores on the high streets in london and pilfer expensive things, they can't be identifed talkless of being caught. Why wont they shoplift, they are kept indoors like animals, dont work and have no money but definitely love good things. Is that not repression to your feeble old mind? Did you not see how the women in Afghanistan rejoiced following the routing of your fellow Talliban-brothers? And who knows, one of your adherent male followers of Muhammed (piss be upon him) will dress up as a female 'hoodie' only to avoid detection at airport and blow people up. Nobody asked them to disrobe, only show your faces in this modern society, simple. You cannot live in a country with total disregard for the values of that community, that is irresponsible but you dont know the meaning of responsibility in a free society.

@all who have tried ouija or planning to try it: listen to this from a very familiar person-God!!
He said in Deuteronomy Chapter 18 vs 10-12:

"There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that uses divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter or witch; (vs 11): or a charmer , or a consulter with familiar spirit or a wizard or a necromancer; (vs 12): for all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"

note:
observer of times = astrology
necromancer= one who talks to or asks from the dead
witch/wizard=familiar spirits
divination/sorcery/enchanter= using demonic, unholy means to find out the future or will of God.

So you see what ouija is all about, stay away from it.

@This old man wallowing in ignorance and hatred called Uncle Olabowale,
what is your problem? do you think it is everybody who think women are only sexual toys like you fundamentalist muslims? who are the real sexual vultures here? is it not you muslims who will rather keep a harem of unfortunate women in ninja-hoods and still be philandering around town because you are permitted plenty of women in islam. Who told you they are wearing it of their own will, if he refuses, then she is labelled as unislamic, what sort of sill choice are you giving.? What has happened to the million of beautiful women walking around, who has raped them?
My dear old man, people are busy working and buiiding communities here, there are plenty of women walking around with their face open for all to see, contributing to the development of community. Nobody is disregarding Islam in this multi-religious society, it is islam and muslims who are disregarding everybody else. The religion of Islam is stuck in the past because unintelligent, sexual-terrorists like yourself will rather prefer the women in bondage in other to fulfil your sexual fantasies on them after all that is what they are for, abi?, according to number one terrorist Muhammed (piss be upon him) You are not relevant, Olabowale, and you stopped making sense long time ago.

babyosisi:
They need to ban those scary looking veils.could give a baby seizures lol
Try bumping into one suddenly in an elevator,you may pass out if you are a cardiac patient.
The terrorists could be hiding behind them male and female.If they don't wish to be seen,why don't they move back to pakistan. The funniest of all is when you see a 300 lb woman under those veils,I wonder who else could be looking at her besides the man in shorts before her. Years ago,I had a patient in the 'hooded peep hole veil' who wanted to see only a female doctor. When she unveiled, good heavens!!! I wondered what all the covering was about,there was no need for it at all. lol.

,,,,,,,,,,,what about when these 'hooded ninjas' shop-lift, (they do that a lot in Edware road and the high street stores in London because they dont work), almost impossible to identify, catch or prosecute them.