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Firdau4u:
Really, I think I am reading the script of a secondary school student with learning difficulties. There is a total dissociation between your reading, assimilating and presenting your case, too. I have noticed a similar trend when reading the scripts of a number of your fellow muslimis and muslimas. It reflects the indoctrination of fallacy you've been subjected to from early childood in your various madrassas, init??!!!

"Let everyperson remain in his/her religion, we shall come to know on that day, who is speaking the truth.Quote"

This sounds like the thoughts of a brain-fatigued individual who has nothing to say again, however it is not my wish that you remain in idolatory/islam and discover the truth on the day of judgement. It is this reason that I will continue to respond and present new evidence of the mammon called muhammed and allah and pray for the holy spirit to work on your resistance. I will continue to throw the word of the living God at you until it breaks you!!!

Honestly Mukina2:
How old are you? Have you indeed asked and investigate WHY Pope Benedict made the quotation of a 14 century emperor? what was the objective of the speech?
If you know the answer to those questions, then you will know the Pope did not do or say anything wrong. HE WAS TRYING TO ENGAGE ISLAMIC LEADERS IN AN INTELLECTUAL DEBATE!!!!!! LET US DISCUSS THE CONCEPT OF VIOLENCE IN ISLAM!!!!! And he used the emperor's quotation to butress what he was saying i.e that the impresion that violence is permissible in islam is a long standing one but come let's discuss it SO THAT THE WORLD MIGHT KNOW "MAYBE" IT IS NOT SO.
However, in the unilateral, tunnel-vision, dogmatic thinking of the islamic world and people who are not ready to engage in intellectual debate in a modern world, you have further confirmed and defeated the purpose of the pope's speech. Is it a crime for muslimis`and muslimas to use their brain for God's sake?
I will suggest you stop talking because you guys are now realy getting on my nerves with your shallow-thinking and unreasonable talks. You are a young and educated individual (I hope), how do you then expect the illitrate muslims who look up to you to think if you are incapable of logical reasoning? Jesus Christ!!!

"It is a know fact that our ascent religions where sometimes brutal but we should also try to remove the fetish aspects and show our children the beautiful and colorful side e.g beyonce's crazy video, the dance,she said was from a popular African tribe which she modified in addition to this most of Angelique Kidjo's hit tracks here in Europe are actually Yoruba folktales Haba! my people,
, take a look at Cuba,Brazil and some south American countries these people still practice ascent African religion which I think should a shame to any Nigerian or African who has his hand stained with another Nigerian or African's blood.Well I don talk my own,I not against Christianity or Islam what I am worried about is the way my people follow follow things like say they no get sense"

Now another idiot has come into a sensible intellectual discussion with solutions of his own. Segelo, are you a footballer, a bouncer or american football player? Whatever you do, you must be engaged in a kind of work where people don't think much. This is evident in your post with consistent misspelling of "ancient as ascent" among other shallow-thinking messages to everybody else.
So we must continue in the idolatory  and other cultural mal-behaviour of old age, abi? Why do you think HIV/AIDS is spreading so fast in Africa? It is due to our deeply rooted, ingraned cultural behaviour that undermines the power of the women, encourages multiple sexual partners, encourages sacrifices and scarifications of bodies with unsterilised instruments etc.
All the idolatory and shedding of blood of the olden days, where has it led us in Africa? that you want to be proud of it. So Beyonce shaking her booty is from an African tribe, fantastic and we should be proud, what a slowpoke!! Dude, shut-up if you don't have anything brainy to say. This forum is for thinkers not brawlers

Dear Belloti:
Can you define a moderate muslim as Davidylan asked? and the only reason why you think we can not see things from the same perspective is because you delibrately want to close your reasoning-tank. That is unfortunate, and it is an attempt to resist logical analysis of your religion and my faith.
The bible said , 'come let us reason together., ' God encourages us to ask Him for wisdom and to think through our actions, thoughts and philosophies of life and not to subject ourselves to dogmatic leading by barely literate 'sheiks/mullahs/ustas etc' who will do everything to prevent you from having a deeper understanding of the idolatory called islam. That is why that vagabond called muhammed preaches it to you to either kill people or show them mercy only if they agree to convert to islam as the quotation form the quran showed. Now, if you are a deep thinking person, you will know this is not a matter of differences in principles but a pure matter of confession by duress.
As for the muslims who you claimed 'got tired', no they did not get tired but only ran out of any scholastic premise to continue a principled-based debate. That is always the case, remeber a Yoruba proverb that 'when lie runs for twenty years, it only takes the twinkle of an eye for truth to catch up' Truth and Light has entered the forum, therefore darkness and lies have no choice but to 'get tired.'

""Christians need to understand that there can be no peace or understanding with the Islamic world. They want to subdue us, pure and simple. Church leaders of all denominations, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, must stop stabbing Israel in the back and campaigning for a de facto open borders policy while Muslims are threatening to swamp our lands. Yes, Christianity teaches compassion, but it also teaches identifying evil and standing up to it. At the end of the day, the Church must decide whether, in the defense of civilization, it wants to be a part of the problem or a part of the solution.""

My dear TYNN2:
You have hit at the very core of the current challenge facing the church and christians worldwide. I hope many people will take the time to read the long but scholastic and insightful write up from you(the length might discourage them but, who knows)
I totally agree with you, while America is doing all in it's power to stand to to this aggression of the idolatrous islamic worlds despite the attempts at blackmail, UK and Europe seems to be spiritually asleep for them to recognise the danger of so called inter faith society. Muslims are not interested in interfaith or secular society but to impose their views and religion ,albeit false it may be, on the whole world. This is one of the advantages that arose out of the unfortunate incidence of 9/11 and 7/7 which majority of muslims silently support in principle, the whole developed world now realise the danger of opening their borders to the islamic nations. Or how else would describe british-born and passport carrying muslims blowing upother british peoples in other to support the campaing of hatred of fellow muslims against their own nation?
Let the wise hear, but we will continue to stand up to islam and muslim as they continue to shoot themselves in thew foot through terrorism.

Dear Eazyman,
I am a christian, born-again, and I totally DISAGREE with you that the world will be better without muslims. I believe you are a christian but do not fully understand the gospel of Jesus Christ Yet, but I totally understand your emotions.
You see, you are not different from the muslims and their idolatory called Islam if you are yet to accept Jesus Christ as your lord and saviour even if you call your self a "christian"
However if you understand the purpose of Jesus coming and you've accepted Him as your lord and saviour, then you will know that Jesus said proverbially that "those that are whole (healthy) have no need of the physician but those who are sick"
The reason you are alive is to witness to the lost and let them know about the Kingdom of God the father, through God the Son Jesus and God the Holy Spirit.
If you are born-again, then dont be selfish because before you were born again, you are no better and hence the world would have been better without you, right? God forbid!!!!. God loves you, He loves muslims, pagans, atheist, buddhist, murderers, paedophiles, homosexuals etc But He hates their sins and only want us to take hold of His love for us by loving him in return; by confessing and repenting from our sins and evils ways; accept Jesus Christ as the Lord and Saviour and spread the good news of Jesus Christ. So you see, the world would not be a better place without muslims afterall who will we evangelise, and win for christ and receive the blessings of obedience to God?
Shalom, Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem

Dear Belloti,
As much as I tried to ignore and laugh away your claim of being 'a moderate peace-loving muslim' and yet declare that you muslims are 'sensitive' to critique of your religion of peace, is that not contradictory even to you.
Dont you see, the reason for the violence and threats of violence by muslims everytime is because of exactly what you've stated and done i.e resistance to dialogue and intellectual debate about your faith which is what Pope Benedict is asking. It is this resistance to change in an increasingly modern world that is responsible for the rise of fundermentalism in islam.
-Why is there resistance to dialogue and change? because such will expose the inherent lies upon which the so-called religion of peace is based.
-Who are the moderate muslims? those who 'justify' the violence and actions of the 7/7 and 9/11 bombers but however will not strap bombs on themselves. So how are 'moderates' different from the extremist?, no difference, it is only a transition phase depending on how much you allow the mullahs and sheiks to confuse you. Violence is an integral componet for the propagation and sustainance of islam
-Recently the Da vinci code raised fictional but sensationalised issues about Jesus Christ, rather than we engaging in demostrations and calling for the head of the author, it was an opportunity to share and discuss Jesus Christ with those who read, and thank God many gave their lives to christ. See the mysterious ways in which God tuns the wiles of the enemy into opportunty to win souls? The same is what is going on in islam: it is an attempt of the enemy to keep you in perpetual darkness from know the "way, the truth and the life"

Dear Uncle Ola,
Sun, moon or star, the fact is that you guys are refined astrologers and the truth is that you are not serving a living god. It is my responsibility as a Child and Son (not slave) of the living God (yes I am a Son of God by adoption through faith in Jesus Christ ) to challenge and try to expose every wile that the enemy (satan) is using to blind the eyes of people from knowing the "way, the truth and the life" and islam is one of them. It is an idolatrous religion propagated by violent confusionists for the confused to keep them in perputal state of confusion; hence the need to spread it by the sword. But those who live by the sword shall die by the sword, unless they become saved, that is.
With all due respect, regardless of the number of degrees you have or your professional affiliations, all are worthless afterall "what profiteth a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?"
As per the matured joke being shared from 4get_me to mukina2, well that is there own business, but in your attempt to judge, you've quickly labelled him as fornicator, so what next, let us go and stone him to death abi??Uncle, na waa for you o You need to chill out and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and al-mashi/Saviour.

Right now as I am writing to you, in London, the Home Secretary is trying to engage muslimas amd muslimis in east london in discussion of how to arrest radicalisation of young muslims, but rather than engage in an intellectual discussion they are heckling the old man, calling him kafir inside the mosque. Yet, the government gave you right to live and work here but in return you must destroy the nation of "Kafirs until the black flag of islam is hanging at 10 Downing Street" (equivalent of White House in London). Do you see the what corrupt indoctrination of violence called islam is doing??

Guys, guys, guys ok hol'up!!
You see muslims are not bad, only CONFUSED and thus carry out dastardly acts in the name of the deity they serve aka allah by following the teachings of a peadophile!!. That is why the quran is a book of plagiarised bible portions and stories in order to get some credibility; mixed with falsehoods in order to discredit the sonship and divinity of Jesus Christ; and thus keep the muslimis and muslimas perpetually confused from knowing the truth; thus forever be slaves of the deity that leaves inside a stone covered by black cloth in macca who must be worshipped and prayed to by facing the east or sun!!Pheeeww that's one long definition. Can any reasoble, decent, right thinking person not be ashamed at the level of disabasment of the female gender by this quranic hadith?

babyosisi:
I'll leave you with this hadith being that you are a Muslim woman. Doesn't this make you mad.
Al Hadis, Vol. 2, p. 692, Ibn Ma`sud reported from the Messenger of Allah who said, "A woman is like a private part (sex organ). When she goes out (walking) the devil casts a glance at her

Do not regard muslims as bad people, otherwise you will not want to associate with them and share your knowledge of Gods kingdom through Jesus Christ with them. You are saved so as to bring others into the light and not to judge, please.

Dear 4get_me:
Flesh and blood did not reveal him to you, but our father who is in heaven. God bles you richly and further increase your understanding, by the way He will not forget you.

O'yes Mukina 2,
Your holy month is almost here or is it here?, you are waiting for the 'appearance of the new moon' to begin fasting toward your god,abi? where did the old moon go? F***ing astrologers and astral worshippers!!
YOU WILL BE SAVED!!!

Seriously uncle Olabowale,
There is total dissociation between your reading, assimilating, understanding and writing. Why do you think I am scared, of what, you calling on allah? or what. No, what I stated is that you've uncovered the violence in the sub-concious of the so called 'peace-loving' moderate muslims. By trying to avoid intellectual debate and looking for a way to 'destroy' your opponents, you are trying to do what bros muhammed asked you to do. and you've failed. We know the truth, your is an idolatrous religion with a constant urge to violence and shedding of blood to your deity[b]-allah-[/b] who lives inside a stone called the 'kaaba so your must face him at all times to pray toward the sun. Uncle, it is not too late, my paternal grandmother gave her life to Jesus at 90 years of age, a year before she died, of her own accord when she realized the truth. Please, you will live long, dont be afraid of middle age or early life or any age, put your heart and soul right with God.

delarontus:
@coCo29:
In the Old Testament people used to wash even before entering the temples to pray, now what is wrong in being clean before praying to God. Remember cleanliness is next to Godliness, where do you think that came from? If God says that is the way he wants you to appear before him, no human being can question that because some issues are way beyond human comprehension.

Dear Delarontus:
pheewww!!!! now this is absolutely ridiculous. By your reasoning or logic, god will not answer the prayer of a dirty smelling, homeless, sick, drunk man or woman right? what an absolute rubbish!!!
The living God (I mean the living God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) through His son Jesus Christ is interested in the cleanliness of our heart toward him and not interested in pious outward appearence as your "cleanliness" of body suggest. If so, no wonder all the smelling, dirty beggars who are usually found outside mosque begging for alms cannot pray to your god, waoh what a wicked god that is. God is love and he loves us no matter our outward appearance but put your heart right toward him and see the wonder working powers of the living God. Because of the law is why Jesus came to free us from the law and put us under the grace of God in your reference to the people of hold testament. Now Christ is the end of the law for righteousness. Righteouness is a thing of the heart not of the body.
Wonder why people will wash all their body from head to toe, go into the mosque and pray to allah, only to come out and start burning,killing, looting and maiming? it is because they washed their body and not their heart and the heart can only be washed by the acceptance of Jesus and the in-dwelling of the holy spirit.
God bless you and hope your understanding is enriched.

Dear Olabowale,
You have confirmed totally - in your absolute ignorance and obedience to the blood sucking monster called muhammed - that there are NO MODERATE muslim as some of you will want to present yourself. Read this part of your post:

olabowale:
I was going to ask you to gather yourselves, your women and your children and your households to harnestly pray to God and then call the wrath of God on you if you are lying. We will do the same. But I stop because Muhammad (AS) showed mercy on the people of Taif, when he could have commanded they the city be destroyed. So he did the same with makka.

You can call the wrath of your "Baalim" called allah from now till kingdom come and nothing will happen because he lives in a stone covered by black cloths, has eyes but cannot see, hears but cannot hear and cannot save and those who worship him are like him. Have you not heard of the encounter of Elijah and the prophets of Baal We serve a living God, my friend. You see you have revealed the innate violence that is the very heart of the islamic religion. [/b]YOU ARE ALWAYS AFRAID TO ENGAGE IN INTELLECTUAL DEBATE HENCE THE GROWTH OF FUNDERMENTALISM IN YOUR RANKS[b]
I actually thought highly of you until now, that I realised you are as low as low could get in your reasoning. What your quran did is to plagiarise the bible, add some facts of Jesus and falsifications too in order to discredit the divinity and sonship of Jesus; this is an attempt to block you from knowing the truth such that you will continually be a 'slave of baalim/allah while following his monstrous blood sucking messenger call muhammed, are you not thinking?
Lord have mercy

My dear firdau4u
As I said elsewhere, you did not refute anything but only wrote out the surah, I am encouraging you to read and get the implied meaning of the words you quote. I know ordinarily this going to be difficult for you because you've always been encouraged at dogmatic reading and not inspirational reading which entails you as an individual looking for the implied meaning. But that is the only way you can find wisdom, by looking for the implied meanings of the word.
Yes, keep on chasing me, that is what muslim do, always chasing christians and never catching up. So why not become a christian and let some others be chasing you until thay too become converted to the kingdom of God in Christ Jesus. Dont fight against wisdom, my dear!!

Well, I have referred you to the passages in your quran that testfies to the sonship and divinty of Our Lord Jesus Christ. All you've done is attempt to give a different intepretation to what is clear my dear firdua4u. I know this is the first time you've been authoritatively confronted by definitive statesment from the quran which shows the book is a bundle of plagiarism from the bible with additional lies.
If you are told to accept the bible which predates quran by almost 1000 years, you cant contest the divinity of Jesus which is clearly stated in the bible (Jesus said I and my Father are One);, if Jesus is the very sprit of God and His Word, how is He separate from God .
You see what I am trying to get you do is to read and get the implied meaning of quotations from the quran and NOT to read it without thinking my dear.
I love you wether you like it or not and you will be saved, really!!

Dear Firdau4u:
Yes I am here, there and everywhere just to enlighten the world of the futility of some peoples belief in idolatory called Islam. You've not been able to refute the higligted statements from the quran as to the triune nature of God, but only engaiging in campaing of calumny.
If Jesus is the 'word of God' and also the 'very spirit of God' born miraculously by a virgin as posited in al-quran, that implies his divine nature: that is different from conception by fertilisation of you and I by our fathers and mothers. That is why we claim to be sons of God by adoption through Jesus Christ and we invite the holy spirit of God to dwell in us as believers.
Since you do not have the intellectual capacity to engage in debate, you've resorted to all sorts of name calling which shows your frustration and anger. My dear that is the spirit of conviction working in you and soon we shall hear the good news of your slavation. I know you will never be the same now since you've been hit by the truth. Everytime you read the quran from now, until you eventually drop it, questions will always arise in your heart--do not ignore it, that is the holy spirit convicting you.
As you see, quran is a book of plagiarism and distortions written by confusionist for the confused to keep them in perpetual state of confusion, but now you know the truth, do not resist it. Herein lies your slavation accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and al-Mashi i.e the Messiah

Dear Firdu4u:
Thanks a lot because in your attempt to discredit all my findings from the Quran that shows the book is full of combination of 'plagiarism' and distortions, you've further confirmed it. I read through all your rebutal; and in the usual manner not once were you able to dispute the fact's I highlighted in my original post, which are quoted in the 'quranic verses', but rather you tried to look for alternative or confounding variables . I understand that you guys read quran and you must not think, but you need to look for the impied meaning of the words written for you to get any information. What you've done is simply read, quote and not think.Jesus is the spirit of God and word of God is not the same as you and I having souls. e.t.c
Yes, although the topic is about why people should not read the quran, that conviction will now be reinforced by the discovery that your so-called good book is full of admonitions from the bible (plagiarism) jammed with other falsehood simply to confuse you followers with a one-track or  tunnel-vision mind. So the verdict is that quran should be confined to the dustbin of history. This is an opportunity to engage in an intellectual debate about your idolatrous religion of violence called 'islam' (note the lower case)

Dear Browneyes/Mukina2/ Firdau4u/Olabowale and other muslims, christians etc here, grab a Quran and do some research and get information on the following:

(1) The Quaran teaches that muslims must read and accept the Bible,(i.e the Tuarat and the Injil or the Old and New Testaments respectively (Read Sura 5:47-52, Sura 55:69, Sura 2:53, Sura 10:94-95, Sura 4:82.

(2) The Quran testifies to the miraculous birth of Jesus through a virgin. (Sura 19:20, Sura 19:16-35); so who is His Father if not Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel!! Jesus is the Son of God
- That Jesus was without sin (Sura 19:19)
-That Jesus performed many miracles including raising people from death. (Surah 3:119, Surah 5:113, Surah 22:73)
-That Jesus ascended into heaven and He is still there. (Surah 4:158) and He is coming back.
-Quran refers to Jesus as Al-Masih i.e. the Messiah. (Surah 4:157, 171,172, Surah 9:31, Surah 3:45) Messiah means the saviour
-Quran refers to Jesus as KALIMATULLAH i.e the Word of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 3:45, Surah 19:34) and also as Ruhun-minhu or Ruhullah i.e Spirit of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 58:22.) So is the Word of God and Spirit of God part of Him or a separate entity?. If possible, you can also see Yusuf Alli's translation of the Quran, note 5365, p 1518, it states Jesus is the Very Spirit of God Himself.

(3) The Quran teaches that the followers of Jesus are superior (Read Sura 3:45 pleeaaseeeee and come on board fast)

(4) The Quran teaches that no one beside God can give life (Surah 22:73) and it also teaches that JESUS created and gave life (Surah 3:49, Surah 5:113). What does this mean?--by implication it means that Jesus must be God. From the QURAN!!!!!!

You ladies and gents sound like intelligent folks and I challenge you to read all the portions of the Quran referred to, it has been hidden from you by the imams, mullahs, and sheiks who have been preying on your ignorance but it is now revealed. In the whole of the quran there is not one verse that rejects the Bible (i.e the Taurat and the Injil or Old and New Testaments respectively) as the infallible word of God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; but as I mentioned earlier it emphasises that you must read and accept it.(Additionally; Surah 5:71-72, 5:69, 6:91, and 3:3)
Many of those who preach in your mosques know this but will rather hide it from you; TODAY has it been revealed, read (if you dare!!! I say) and You WILL NOT BOTHER TO READ THE QURAN AGAIN AFTERWARD but will get a Bible fast. Print this piece out and research it; these are not from a casual internet search but from scholastic research of quran, so read. I pray that the Holy Spirit will guide you and convict your minds as you do this. I love you with the love of God.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Shalom.

Wait eagerly for Part 2, it is coming soon!!!

Dear Browneyes/Mukina2/ Firdau4u/Olabowale and other muslims, christians etc here, grab a Quran and do some research and get information on the following:

(1) The Quaran teaches that muslims must read and accept the Bible (Read Sura 5:47-52, Sura 55:69, Sura 2:53, Sura 10:94-95, Sura 4:82.

(2) The Quran testifies to the miraculous birth of Jesus through a virgin. (Sura 19:20, Sura 19:16-35); so who is His Father if not Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel!! Thus Jesus is the Son of God
- That Jesus was without sin (Sura 19:19)
-That Jesus performed many miracles including raising people from death. (Surah 3:119, Surah 5:113, Surah 22:73)
-That Jesus ascended into heaven and He is still there. (Surah 4:158) and He is coming back.
-Quran refers to Jesus as Al-Masih i.e. the Messiah. (Surah 4:157, 171,172, Surah 9:31, Surah 3:45) Messiah means Saviour
-Quran refers to Jesus as KALIMATULLAH i.e the Word of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 3:45, Surah 19:34) and also as Ruhun-minhu or Ruhullah i.e Spirit of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 58:22.) So is the Word of God and Spirit of God part of Him or a separate entity?. If possible, you can also see Yusuf Alli's translation of the Quran, note 5365, p 1518, it states Jesus is the Very Spirit of God Himself.

(3) The Quran teaches that the followers of Jesus are superior (Read Sura 3:45 pleeaaseeeee and come on board fast)

(4) The Quran teaches that no one beside God can give life (Surah 22:73) and it also teaches that JESUS created and gave life (Surah 3:49, Surah 5:113). What does this mean?--by implication it means that Jesus must be God. From the QURAN!!!!!!

You ladies and gents sound like intelligent folks and I challenge you to read all the portions of the Quran referred to, it has been hidden from you by the imams, mullahs, and sheiks who have been preying on your ignorance but it is now revealed. In the whole of the quran there is not one verse that rejects the Bible (i.e the Taurat and the Injil or Old and New Testaments respectively) as the infallible word of God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; but as I mentioned earlier it emphasises that you must read and accept it.(Additionally; Surah 5:71-72, 5:69, 6:91, and 3:3)
Many of those who preach in your mosques know this but will rather hide it from you; TODAY has it been revealed, read (if you dare!!! I say) and You WILL NOT BOTHER TO READ THE QURAN AGAIN AFTERWARD but will get a Bible fast. Print this piece out and research it; I pray that the Holy Spirit will guide you and convict your minds as you do this. I love you with the love of God. Do not search on the internet but grab a quran. These are not reference from any internet search but from detailed research of your book which many of you do not really do.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Shalom.

Wait eagerly for Part 2, it is coming soon!!!

Dear Browneyes/Mukina2/ Firdau4u/Olabowale and other muslims, christians etc here, grab a Quran and do some research and get information on the following:

(1) The Quaran teaches that muslims must read and accept the Bible (Read Sura 5:47-52, Sura 55:69, Sura 2:53, Sura 10:94-95, Sura 4:82.

(2) The Quran testifies to the miraculous birth of Jesus through a virgin. (Sura 19:20, Sura 19:16-35); so who is His Father if not Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel!!
- That Jesus was without sin (Sura 19:19)
-That Jesus performed many miracles including raising people from death. (Surah 3:119, Surah 5:113, Surah 22:73)
-That Jesus ascended into heaven and He is still there. (Surah 4:158) and He is coming back.
-Quran refers to Jesus as Al-Masih i.e. the Messiah. (Surah 4:157, 171,172, Surah 9:31, Surah 3:45)
-Quran refers to Jesus as KALIMATULLAH i.e the Word of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 3:45, Surah 19:34) and also as Ruhun-minhu or Ruhullah i.e Spirit of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 58:22.) So is the Word of God and Spirit of God part of Him or a separate entity?. If possible, you can also see Yusuf Alli's translation of the Quran, note 5365, p 1518, it states Jesus is the Very Spirit of God Himself.

(3) The Quran teaches that the followers of Jesus are superior (Read Sura 3:45 pleeaaseeeee and come on board fast)

(4) The Quran teaches that no one beside God can give life (Surah 22:73) and it also teaches that JESUS created and gave life (Surah 3:49, Surah 5:113). What does this mean?--by implication it means that Jesus must be God. From the QURAN!!!!!!

You ladies and gents sound like intelligent folks and I challenge you to read all the portions of the Quran referred to, it has been hidden from you by the imams, mullahs, and sheiks who have been preying on your ignorance but it is now revealed. In the whole of the quran there is not one verse that rejects the Bible (i.e the Taurat and the Injil or Old and New Testaments respectively) as the infallible word of God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; but as I mentioned earlier it emphasises that you must read and accept it.(Additionally; Surah 5:71-72, 5:69, 6:91, and 3:3)
Many of those who preach in your mosques know this but will rather hide it from you; TODAY has it been revealed, read (if you dare!!! I say) and You WILL NOT BOTHER TO READ THE QURAN AGAIN AFTERWARD but will get a Bible fast. Print this piece out and research it; I pray that the Holy Spirit will guide you and convict your minds as you do this. I love you with the love of God.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Shalom.

Wait eagerly for Part 2, it is coming soon!!!

Dear Browneyes/Mukina2/ Firdau4u/Olabowale and other muslims here, grab your Quran and do some research and get information on the following:
(1) The Quaran teaches that muslims must read and accept the Bible (Read Sura 5:47-50, Sura 55:69, Sura 2:53, Sura 10:94-95, Sura 4:82.

(2) The Quran testifies to the miraculous birth of Jesus through a virgin. (Sura 19:20, Sura 19:16-35) So Who is His father if not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
- That Jesus was without sin (Sura 19:19)
-That Jesus performed many miracles including raising people from death. (Surah 3:119, Surah 5:113, Surah 22:73)
-That Jesus ascended into heaven and He is still there. (Surah 4:158) and He is coming back.
-Quran refers to Jesus as Al-Masih i.e. the Messiah. (Surah 4:157, 171,172, Surah 9:31, Surah 3:45)
-Quran refers to Jesus as KALIMATULLAH i.e the Word of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 3:45) and also as Ruhun-minhu or Ruhullah i.e Spirit of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 58:22.) So is the Word of God and Spirit of God part of Him or a separate entity?. If possible, see Yusuf Alli's translation of the Quran, note 5365, p 1518, it states Jesus is the Very Spirit of God Himself.

(3) The Quran teaches that the followers of Jesus are superior (Read Sura 3:45 pleeaaseeeee and come on board fast)

(4) The Quran teaches that no one beside God can give life (Surah 22:73) and it also teaches that JESUS created and gave life (Surah 3:49, Surah 5:113). What does this mean?--by implication it means that Jesus must be God. From the QURAN!!!!!!

You ladies and gents sound like intelligent folks and I challenge you to read all the portions of the Quran referred to, it has been hidden from you by the imams, mullahs, and sheiks who have been preying on your ignorance but it is now revealed. In the whole of the quran there is not one verse that rejects the Bible as the infallible word of God but as I mentioned earlier it emphasises that you must read and accept it. Many of those who preach in your mosques know this but will rather hide it from you, TODAY has it been revealed, read (if you dare!!! I say) and You WILL NOT BOTHER TO READ THE QURAN AGAIN AFTERWARD but will get a Bible fast. Print this piece out, research it and challenge your leaders. I love you with the love of God.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Shalom.

Dear Browneyes/Mukina2/ Firdau4u/Olabowale and other muslims here, grab your Quran and do some research and get information on the following:
(1) The Quaran teaches that muslims must read and accept the Bible (Read Sura 5:47-50, Sura 55:69, Sura 2:53, Sura 10:94-95, Sura 4:82.

(2) The Quran testifies to the miraculous birth of Jesus through a virgin. (Sura 19:20, Sura 19:16-35), so who is His Father if not God (Jehovah) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?
- That Jesus was without sin (Sura 19:19)
-That Jesus performed many miracles including raising people from death. (Surah 3:119, Surah 5:113, Surah 22:73)
-That Jesus ascended into heaven and He is still there. (Surah 4:158) and He is coming back.
-Quran refers to Jesus as Al-Masih i.e. the Messiah. (Surah 4:157, 171,172, Surah 9:31, Surah 3:45)
-Quran refers to Jesus as KALIMATULLAH i.e the Word of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 3:45) and also as Ruhun-minhu or Ruhullah i.e Spirit of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 58:22.) So is the Word of God and Spirit of God part of Him or a separate entity?. If possible, see Yusuf Alli's translation of the Quran, note 5365, p 1518, it states Jesus is the Very Spirit of God Himself.

(3) The Quran teaches that the followers of Jesus are superior (Read Sura 3:45 pleeaaseeeee and come on board fast)

(4) The Quran teaches that no one beside God can give life (Surah 22:73) and it also teaches that JESUS created and gave life (Surah 3:49, Surah 5:113). What does this mean?--by implication it means that Jesus must be God. From the QURAN!!!!!!

You ladies and gents sound like intelligent folks and I challenge you to read all the portions of the Quran referred to, it has been hidden from you by the imams, mullahs, and sheiks who have been preying on your ignorance but it is now revealed. In the whole of the quran there is not one verse that rejects the Bible as the infallible word of God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel; but as I mentioned earlier it emphasises that you must read and accept it. Many of those who preach in your mosques know this but will rather hide it from you, TODAY has it been revealed, read (if you dare!!! I say) and You WILL NOT BOTHER TO READ THE QURAN AGAIN AFTERWARD but will get a Bible fast. Print this piece out and research it; and confront your leaders with it. I love you with the love of God.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Shalom.

Dear Browneyes/Mukina2/ Firdau4u/Olabowale and other muslims here, grab your Quran and do some research and get information on the following:
(1) The Quaran teaches that muslims must read and accept the Bible (Read Sura 5:47-50, Sura 55:69, Sura 2:53, Sura 10:94-95, Sura 4:82.

(2) The Quran testifies to the miraculous birth of Jesus through a virgin. (Sura 19:20, Sura 19:16-35)
- That Jesus was without sin (Sura 19:19)
-That Jesus performed many miracles including raising people from death. (Surah 3:119, Surah 5:113, Surah 22:73)
-That Jesus ascended into heaven and He is still there. (Surah 4:158) and He is coming back.
-Quran refers ro Jesus as Al-Masih i.e. the Messiah. (Surah 4:157, 171,172, Surah 9:31, Surah 3:45)
-Quran refers to Jesus as KALIMATULLAH i.e the Word of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 3:45) and also as Ruhun-minhu or Ruhullah i.e Spirit of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 58:22.) So is the Word of God and Spirit of God part of Him or a separate entity?. If possible, see Yusuf Alli's translation of the Quran, note 5365, p 1518, it states Jesus is the Very Spirit of God Himself.

(3) The Quran teaches that the followers of Jesus are superior (Read Sura 3:45 pleeaaseeeee and come on board fast)

(4) The Quran teaches that no one beside God can give life (Surah 22:73) and it also teaches that JESUS created and gave life (Surah 3:49, Surah 5:113). What does this mean?--by implication it means that Jesus must be God. From the QURAN!!!!!!

You ladies and gents sound like intelligent folks and I challenge you to read all the portions of the Quran referred to, it has been hidden from you by the imams, mullahs, and sheiks who have been preying on your ignorance but it is now revealed. In the whole of the quran there is not one verse that rejects the Bible as the infallible word of God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel but as I mentioned earlier it emphasises that you must read and accept it. Many of those who preach in your mosques know this but will rather hide it from you, TODAY has it been revealed, read (if you dare!!! I say) and You WILL NOT BOTHER TO READ THE QURAN AGAIN AFTERWARD but will get a Bible fast. Print this piece out and research. I love you with the love of God.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Shalom.

Dear Browneyes/Mukina2/ Firdau4u/Olabowale and other muslims here, grab your Quran and do some research and get information on the following:
(1) The Quaran teaches that muslims must read and accept the Bible (Read Sura 5:47-50, Sura 55:69, Sura 2:53, Sura 10:94-95, Sura 4:82.

(2) The Quran testifies to the miraculous birth of Jesus through a virgin. (Sura 19:20, Sura 19:16-35)
- That Jesus was without sin (Sura 19:19)
-That Jesus performed many miracles including raising people from death. (Surah 3:119, Surah 5:113, Surah 22:73)
-That Jesus ascended into heaven and He is still there. (Surah 4:158) and He is coming back.
-Quran refers ro Jesus as Al-Masih i.e. the Messiah. (Surah 4:157, 171,172, Surah 9:31, Surah 3:45)
-Quran refers to Jesus as KALIMATULLAH i.e the Word of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 3:45) and also as Ruhun-minhu or Ruhullah i.e Spirit of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 58:22.) So is the Word of God and Spirit of God part of Him or a separate entity? . If possible, see Yusuf Alli's translation of the Quran, note 5365, p 1518, it states Jesus is the Very Spirit of God Himself.

(3) The Quran teaches that the followers of Jesus are superior (Read Sura 3:45 pleeaaseeeee and come on board fast)

(4) The Quran teaches that no one beside God can give life (Surah 22:73) and it also teaches that JESUS created and gave life (Surah 3:49, Surah 5:113). What does this mean?--by implication it means that Jesus must be God. From the QURAN!!!!!!

You ladies and gents sound like intelligent folks and I challenge you to read all the portions of the Quran referred to, it has been hidden from you by the imams, mullahs, and sheiks who have been preying on your ignorance but it is now revealed. In the whole of the quran there is not one verse that rejects the Bible as the infallible word of God but as I mentioned earlier it emphasises that you must read and accept it. Many of those who preach in your mosques know this but will rather hide it from you, TODAY has it been revealed, read (if you dare!!! I say) and You WILL NOT BOTHER TO READ THE QURAN AGAIN AFTERWARD but will get a Bible fast. Print this piece out and research. I love you with the love of God.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Shalom.

Dear Browneyes/Mukina2/ Firdau4u/Olabowale and other muslims here, grab your Quran and do some research and get information on the following:
(1) The Quaran teaches that muslims must read and accept the Bible (Read Sura 5:47-50, Sura 55:69, Sura 2:53, Sura 10:94-95, Sura 4:82.

(2) The Quran testifies to the miraculous birth of Jesus through a virgin. (Sura 19:20, Sura 19:16-35)
- That Jesus was without sin (Sura 19:19)
-That Jesus performed many miracles including raising people from death. (Surah 3:119, Surah 5:113, Surah 22:73)
-That Jesus ascended into heaven and He is still there. (Surah 4:158) and He is coming back.
-Quran refers ro Jesus as Al-Masih i.e. the Messiah. (Surah 4:157, 171,172, Surah 9:31, Surah 3:45)
-Quran refers to Jesus as KALIMATULLAH i.e the Word of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 3:45) and also as Ruhun-minhu or Ruhullah i.e Spirit of God (Surah 4:171, Surah 58:22.) So is the Word of God and Spirit of God part of Him or a separate entity?. If possible, see Yusuf Alli's translation of the Quran, note 5365, p 1518, it states Jesus is the Very Spirit of God Himself.

(3) The Quran teaches that the followers of Jesus are superior (Read Sura 3:45 pleeaaseeeee and come on board fast)

(4) The Quran teaches that no one beside God can give life (Surah 22:73) and it also teaches that JESUS created and gave life (Surah 3:49, Surah 5:113). What does this mean?--by implication it means that Jesus must be God. From the QURAN!!!!!!

You ladies and gents sound like intelligent folks and I challenge you to read all the portions of the Quran referred to, it has been hidden from you by the imams, mullahs, and sheiks who have been preying on your ignorance but it is now revealed. In the whole of the quran there is not one verse that rejects the Bible as the infallible word of God but as I mentioned earlier it emphasises that you must read and accept it. Many of those who preach in your mosques know this but will rather hide it from you, TODAY has it been revealed, read (if you dare!!! I say) and You WILL NOT BOTHER TO READ THE QURAN AGAIN AFTERWARD but will get a Bible fast. Print this piece out and research. I love you with the love of God.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Shalom.

My dear 'osama bin firdau4u'
I have come across your posts in various sections of this post but one universal taste your writingshave is that of absolute ignorance, superficial reason and 'cerebro-oral dissociation' i.e total disconnection between thinking and talking or rather writing.

I am not only free but 'free indeed' because whosoever Jesus Christ has set free is 'free indeed' (Read the book of John and Matthew in the bible for confirmation)

To the rest of your other ramblings, I will refer you to John 10 vs 30 where Jesus said and I quote "I and my Father are One". Our God is a triune God, one in nature but three in being -the father (Jehovah), the son (Jesus Christ), and holy spirit (truth/comforter) who is chasing you and convicting you as you read this. So you now know WHO raised Jesus from death, who was in charge when Jesus was making a public show of the devil in hades during his 'death' experience but death could not hold him and the grave could not contain him. Halleluyah!!! Our Lord is Risen.

Is Terrorism a muslim problem? NO!! It is a problem of the whole world but it fulfilling the word of God in the Bible about the islamic nation. That is Ishmael, Abraham's son from Hagar his slave (the progenitor of arabs, muhammed and thus Islam) "he will be a wild man, his hand will be against the whole world and the hand of the whole world will be upon him." (Read Genesis 16 vs 10 -13)
I read the in one of the post: not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims. What are wise saying

@Davidylan
The spirit of excellence and wisdom from our God Jehovah that fell upon Daniel will chase you, overtake you and overshadow you and it will make way for you in Jesus name, Amen.!!!!

olabowale:
@Havila: Muslims, the world over do not face the east. Muslims in West africa face east, the exact direction of Makka. The Muslims in America face a direction that Makka is located in. The Europeans will face a diffirent direction, but geographically, every muslim is facing the Ka'aba. I am sure from your statement, you have not seen the circumbulations of the Ka'aba before. When you see it, every one faces that Cubical. So people pray facing it from every direction.

About the star and the crescent and the fact that all Islamic events are organised on the Lunar calendar, this is the command of God. Unfortunately, the christians use the seasonal changes to observe the events of their religion. For example, they say that jesus was born on the 25th of december.

Quite interestingly, I kind of like you Olabowale because most of your posts are not only self defeating but really funny
I am from Nigeria, lived in US before, now living in UK and always have cause to travel in the course of my work. Been to far east, middle east, americas australasia, other european countriesetc. (I am a public health professional/epidemiologist with an international organisation) and in all of my travels never have I seen muslims face anywhere else to pray other than the direction of sunrise- east. So carry your circumbulations of kaaba somewhere else.
I agree with you that the symbol of islam (crescent and star) and the organisation of your events around the moon are the command of the deity that you worship through the consterllations-allah with muhammed being the chief priest. That is why I said to all who care to listen that our God ,Jehovah, is not the same as allah and people should not be confused in the spirit of so called interfaith understanding. It is very clear in the bible where our God warned us not be involved in astrology or worshipping of the consterlation which was a common thing in the far east then.It was one of the various sins of Israelites in the era of old testament who got involved in astral worshipping due to trade and migration to and from the far east before the coming of Christ. Wether Jesus was born on 25th december or not is not the issue, the fact is that we choose to celebrate birth, death, resurrection and ascension to glory of our Lord and Saviour

Dear Chxta: well it's quite unfortunate if you decide that this will be your last post on the issue. However, you do not appear to understand the issue at hand. The issue is not what God is called in various languages but WHO you are referring to when you call the name of a god in any language. You see 'ogun' is a god in yorubaland (god of iron, kind of a deity) but he is not the God of Abraham, God of Isaac and God of Jacob. sango is also a god in yoruba language referring to a god of thunder but he is NOT the same god as Yahweh.
This is not a matter of literary translation of names but of WHO or WHICH god you refer to by a particular name. Do you understand? I think it's simple enough.